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mikeg205
05-06-2013, 05:06 PM
Got me my fuel pump for Rock Auto

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=26&partnum=P60987&a=FR26-P60987-88113

Took a close look at it P60962 original pump markings "1987 [Up arrow] TBI - 25 PSI MAX" then "?494B" - can't see around back of pump...

New pump P60987 pump markings "1987 [Up arrow] TBI - 25 PSI MAX" then "0517B"

Pic VVVV

mikeg205
05-06-2013, 05:10 PM
Tested it - it did not spin up using plug on old pump that works... Rock Auto Exchanging ... I would test pump... If you got one - I think they are new old stock.

Table Rocker
05-06-2013, 05:36 PM
The one I bought off eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/321041093010?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) came Friday. It says:
962 ↑ PFI - HIGH PRESSURE
2366C Made in USA

I assume 2366C is a manufacturing date/lot code.

mikeg205
05-06-2013, 06:57 PM
Darn defective pump actually blew fuse - "won't say what my first words were...when the old pump would not prime up... ;) " lol ... strange.... Guess I will test replacement as well... luckily don't need a new pump - was just a good back up idea... :)

Table Rocker
05-06-2013, 07:20 PM
Darn defective pump actually blew fuse - "won't say what my first words were...when the old pump would not prime up... ;) " lol ... strange.... Guess I will test replacement as well... luckily don't need a new pump - was just a good back up idea... :)
Maybe the plug is reversed on that model pump.

mikeg205
05-06-2013, 07:24 PM
Maybe the plug is reversed on that model pump.

nope checked it before I plugged same polarity...

pram
05-07-2013, 07:40 PM
So they are sending you a new pump to replace the new one that you just got?

mikeg205
05-08-2013, 12:13 AM
Yes PRAM they are... sent the bad one back today.

pram
05-08-2013, 01:25 PM
I haven't received mine yet, I will have to test it to make sure it spins over

mikeg205
05-09-2013, 05:13 PM
replacement pump arrived today....worked like a charmer... put away for safe keeping... ;)

thanks Rock Auto :)

mikeg205
12-29-2013, 08:44 PM
Discounted... $82.89

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=26&partnum=P60987&a=FR26-P60987-88113

mikeg205
03-15-2014, 12:52 PM
okay... this is sill now...

35.84... :)

http://www.rockauto.com/catalog/raframecatalog.php?catalog=26&partnum=P60987&a=FR26-P60987-88113

john jones
03-15-2014, 01:24 PM
Mike,

Would this pump work for my 02 x star with 330 Ltr? My boat is in storage so I can't look at what I have. This is the first boat I have had with fuel injection, it sounds like its a good idea to have a spare pump.

Thanks

mikeg205
03-15-2014, 02:00 PM
if you don't have an in-tank fuel pump - I believe yes but I am not sure

Legolamb
03-17-2014, 08:43 AM
Mike, how about for a '96 LT1? Looks like the same pump.

Legolamb
03-17-2014, 09:18 AM
I may have found my own answer, looks like this part number is for TBI engines, operating btw 25-35 psi fuel, while the LT1 is an MPI, and needs fuel pressures btw 50-60 psi, requiring a different pump (Carter 60962).

TallSkinnyGuy
07-15-2014, 03:34 PM
Tested it - it did not spin up using plug on old pump that works... Rock Auto Exchanging ... I would test pump... If you got one - I think they are new old stock.

How do you test it? Did you just disconnect the wiring from your installed pump, connect it to the new pump and turn the boat key to the 'on' position?
BTW, this pump is now selling for just under $33.

mikeg205
07-15-2014, 05:03 PM
Yes that is what I did


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BarefootWt
09-08-2014, 02:30 PM
Hey Mike - BarefootWt here on this thread now. I have been on the phone with Indmar and inboardonline and looking at the Rock Auto web site. Are you saying the P60987 is a substitute for the P60962 (no longer available)? I spoke with someone who said that "all the pumps that look the same and fit this application) are basically the same and put out well above 40 PSI (like up to 90) and it is the pressure regulator that brings the pressure down to what we need (per my owners manual 30-45 PSI)? What a maze of "options and confusion" :-)

mikeg205
09-08-2014, 02:55 PM
It is.. I am not sure that the P60987 will work. I boat one and it will states 25psi on the pump. I have not gotten any feedback from anyone who bought the P60987 for an LT1 - that's why I won't say it works.

All I know is that P60962 was called out for the MPI and the other for TBI.

http://www.fme-cat.com/MarineApplication.aspx?bid=298&make=GMC&model=All%20Models&ptype=Marine%20Fuel%20Pumps

not sure why they would have 2 pumps.. $32 not a bad gamble - unless the engraving on the P60987 means 25 PSI and greater.

I just don't want to recommend something and be wrong.

this link says all models... $32 not a bad gamble if it works... hit the right arrow - to see application

http://www.fme-cat.com/overlays/part-detail.aspx?pNum=P60987&partType=Marine%20Fuel%20Pumps&brand=CF&lookedUp=Marine%20%20GMC%20All%20Models&mb=Carter

BarefootWt
09-11-2014, 07:11 PM
Hey Mike - just got my P60987 from Rock Auto and it has markings that say TBI 25 PSI max (I see you had the same experience before on a different thread). This does not make sense given Carter engineer said this part is rated 40-57 PSI. I am calling them back first thing in am before I install and own it. In the other thread I think you said you went to e-bay and got different part number, in that the P60987 was wired differently as well and did not fire up? I have a backup 556014 coming in from Inboardonline so if needed that is my backup plan/approach.

mikeg205
01-03-2015, 03:27 PM
Okay took apart my 2-stage fuel pump - kid of creeps me out that to little rubber gaskets keep fuel from spilling out the top of pump... the pump is kind of interesting... has a steel gear pump like transmission and a vein pump like a sump. The steel gear pump is seized. There was no debris or anything in the pump.

mikeg205
01-04-2015, 01:11 PM
I was wondering if ever needed if this pumped could be replaced with another pump. this one for example. http://www.amazon.com/Bosch-Universal-Inline-Fuel-Pump/dp/B003WL73OK#productDetails

not sure what a 2 stage pump really does... the pump listed above is a 3 bar at 12 volts. I was thinking if needed in the future - if the 2 stage pump gets really scarce if this pump could be installed and the return from TBI regulator can just be routed to fuel line return..

mikeg205
02-17-2015, 08:10 PM
Was talking to an engine guru yesterday regarding the pumps we use on our lt1 and tbi's. He's betting that this hi pressure fuel pump

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/PFP0/E16135/N0515.oap?ck=Search_N0515_-1_3400&pt=N0515&ppt=C0128

would most likely work well in our mid 90's to late 90's boats. 70psi max. Would be interesting to test out. the vapor release on our pumps prolly don't do much. I know it was put there to reduce vapor locking...

Bluecup
07-19-2017, 07:34 PM
Hi Mike,
This is a long shot but I read in an old thread that you have a spare fuel pump p60987. It has been discontinued but I need one. If you still have it would you pm me at [email protected] to discuss a possible deal.
Thank you,
Jim

mikeg205
07-20-2017, 10:50 AM
just get a carter p61171 or p5000 and just replumb. all you have to remove is the y fitting pictures below -- just have return line run directly to tank I believe all you need is a 1/4 compression female to 3/8's barbed end - most hardware stores carry.

Jerseydave
07-23-2017, 11:27 PM
Has anyone replaced the fuel pump with either one of Mike's suggestions? (P5000 or P61171)

My 95 TBI is having issues when it gets hot after running 2 hours. Loses power, won't go over 25 mph.....let things cool off and it's ok again for an even shorter time then loses power again. My buddy has a GT40 in his Nautique.....same problem so he dumps ice water on the fuel pump to cool it and it runs great again! I think these 2-stage fuel pumps have issues when they get hot.

Summit racing has a good price on these pumps.....worth trying for under $80! My pump is original anyway with over 1600 hours on it.

mikeg205
07-24-2017, 10:15 AM
1600 hours on the fuel pump - awesome! MC Fever put the P5000 in his LT1

Jerseydave
07-24-2017, 03:09 PM
So as I understand it I can just eliminate the Y since there is only the inlet on the new pump and just have that stainless line connect straight to the vapor hose? (your pic shows how my stock pump looks now)

mikeg205
07-24-2017, 03:22 PM
So as I understand it I can just eliminate the Y since there is only the inlet on the new pump and just have that stainless line connect straight to the vapor hose? (your pic shows how my stock pump looks now)

correct - I don't have any pics with the vapor line removed.

Val
07-24-2017, 05:05 PM
My 95 TBI is having issues when it gets hot after running 2 hours. Loses power, won't go over 25 mph.....let things cool off and it's ok again for an even shorter time then loses power again.

Hi - I suspected the fuel pump when my 1996 ProStar 205 LT-1 would only go slowly when hot. Turns out the LT-1 computer put the engine in rpm limit mode because the whole engine was hot. I applied Service Bulletin MC96-001 and the problem went away. Not sure if this is your issue but thought it might help to meantion it. Good luck finding the issue.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=31626&highlight=Steam+tube&page=2

Jerseydave
07-30-2017, 10:23 AM
Hi - I suspected the fuel pump when my 1996 ProStar 205 LT-1 would only go slowly when hot. Turns out the LT-1 computer put the engine in rpm limit mode because the whole engine was hot. I applied Service Bulletin MC96-001 and the problem went away. Not sure if this is your issue but thought it might help to meantion it. Good luck finding the issue.

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=31626&highlight=Steam+tube&page=2

Thanks Val but mine never runs hot, and it's TBI not an LT-1 so that cooling system fix is not for my engine. But thanks anyway. For $80 I'm getting a new pump to try it.

Funny, the boat will run fine all day if we only go wakeboard speeds (under 25) but when we slalom at 34 for hours that's when the loss of power happens. Hope the pump fixes it.
FWIW, the GT40 in the Nautiques use a similar pump and my buddy dumps cool water on his pump when it loses power and she runs perfect again for a bit.