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kenps190
04-11-2013, 10:16 AM
Ok, had to prove to Mikeg205 & SammyD that this project is happening:D

Just getting started but showing my progress so far.
Tank out and cleanhttp://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0049_zps9d338fce.jpg

Before shot: just getting started. Carpet looks much worse after it was pulled out!
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0035_zps1d32b085.jpg

Center floor sections and pylon out!
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0037_zpsbcca25b9.jpg

Port Side Gone. Carpet mostly coming up without too many issues. Will make great templates.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0043_zps3308ced6.jpg


Shot of the boat and new Corinthian carpet that will go in. Went with 24oz Charcoal

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0053_zpscf23cca0.jpg

catamount
04-11-2013, 10:33 AM
Beautiful boat! That looks like a TON of carpet? Are you planning to do another 7 boats after yours is done?

kenps190
04-11-2013, 10:48 AM
Beautiful boat! That looks like a TON of carpet? Are you planning to do another 7 boats after yours is done?

Thanks! I did order extra, just in case....based on measurements, I needed about 21ish feet. I ordered 27'.

mikeg205
04-11-2013, 10:55 AM
Looking good... thanks for the pics... we just need to see how you did so you can guide us later... ;)

Retoxtony
04-11-2013, 12:57 PM
Thanks! I did order extra, just in case....based on measurements, I needed about 21ish feet. I ordered 27'.


Thats alot of carpet. I actually replaced the carpet in my 205 last night. It ended up being a far easier job than i anticipated and it turned out better than i thought it would. I didnt do in the rear locker or under the bow/observers seat, just the parts that are visible when your in the boat. I ordered a 8.5x16 roll from Corinthian and i have lots left over.

Not sure if this is your first time doing boat carpet but it was mine. So a little advice, i found the glue to be MESSY. No matter how hard i tried i couldnt keep it off my hands and it doesnt come off very easy. I kept lots of rags handy to try and keep my hands clean. If i was going to do it again, i would buy a box of latex gloves and put on a new pair when i got glue on them.

Kyle
04-11-2013, 01:04 PM
I've been wanting to do this to my '93 190.

Maybe it's me but I think engine building would be easier and have been dreading the beat down of this project. I fear that the carpet will tear into 500 pieces and I won't be able to use it as a template. I also don't know how to get it under the observers seat. I have no clue tow to do under the bow.

The whole thing looks like a complete beat down. Getting to where you are is not a problem for me. I just have no clue how to install it.

But I sure HATE paying someone.

pram
04-11-2013, 01:05 PM
that is a great looking boat for sure

Ever thought about making the carpet snap in?

You could cut it all out to shape then take it somewhere and have it edged

I would love a snap in carpet in the boat

kenps190
04-11-2013, 01:13 PM
Thanks for the advise. I'm sure I will have lots left over but really not that concerned. It is my first time doing carpet, I was more concerned with the idea of jacking a big piece up and having to reorder. Ill do something with the extra.

kenps190
04-11-2013, 01:16 PM
that is a great looking boat for sure

Ever thought about making the carpet snap in?

You could cut it all out to shape then take it somewhere and have it edged

I would love a snap in carpet in the boat

Thanks!
I initially tossed around snap in. Not really sure what changed my mind.

kenps190
04-11-2013, 01:23 PM
I've been wanting to do this to my '93 190.

Maybe it's me but I think engine building would be easier and have been dreading the beat down of this project. I fear that the carpet will tear into 500 pieces and I won't be able to use it as a template. I also don't know how to get it under the observers seat. I have no clue tow to do under the bow.

The whole thing looks like a complete beat down. Getting to where you are is not a problem for me. I just have no clue how to install it.

But I sure HATE paying someone.

I'm exactly the same way. I actually had called three installers because I figured I would get a wrinkle somewhere and drive me freak'n crazy. Two blew me off and the third came to the house.....COMPLETE NUT JOB. Now way he was touching my boat.
I know the guys said I ordered too much carpet but this guy said he needed a piece 12'x28'.

chevyluv
04-11-2013, 01:54 PM
If you need any tips feal free to shoot me a pm I'm noat a boat carpet guy. But I'm a fully certified carpet and commercial flooring installer

kenps190
04-11-2013, 02:48 PM
If you need any tips feal free to shoot me a pm I'm noat a boat carpet guy. But I'm a fully certified carpet and commercial flooring installer

Great! thanks

02ProstarSammyD
04-11-2013, 02:53 PM
Ok, had to prove to Mikeg205 & SammyD that this project is happening


not sure how I got bunched in with Mike. Hes a picture maniac

Rockman
04-11-2013, 03:06 PM
not sure how I got bunched in with Mike. Hes a picture maniac

Guilty by association...or the other way around. ;)

kenps190
04-11-2013, 03:16 PM
not sure how I got bunched in with Mike. Hes a picture maniac

I read your post from yesterday again..my bad, was Mike looking for photos!:confused:

mikeg205
04-11-2013, 03:38 PM
I read your post from yesterday again..my bad, was Mike looking for photos!:confused:

Rule is - no photos... didn't happen.. ;)

Pic's can lie to I guess..like this beauty I bought last summer.... can't wait to use it.... I am such a liar... ;)

milkmania
04-11-2013, 03:43 PM
I've been wanting to do this to my '93 190.

Maybe it's me but I think engine building would be easier and have been dreading the beat down of this project. I fear that the carpet will tear into 500 pieces and I won't be able to use it as a template. I also don't know how to get it under the observers seat. I have no clue tow to do under the bow.


on my 91 PS190, if you'll look closely, there's a a seam that runs along the edge of the observer's seat base, because once you pull out the center floor around the pylon, you'd pull the stainless steel base screws, and the fiberglass base will actually lift an inch or two to the the carpet tucked under it.

Also, the bilge/engine splits the carpet run in 1/2....left and right.... so on port side, it starts at edge of bilge, and runs up the inside of the gunnel area....
Starboard is same way.

So, you're actually dealing with smaller sections of carpet, not just one piece.
It's your call whether you'd re-carpet under the bow..... mine's in great shape, so I won't replace it yet.
there is a vertical left side kick panel beside the driver's feet that can be pulled out and re-carpeted also..... seems to me like a great place for a speaker, if you can protect the backside of the speaker, because once you lift the observer's seat back, the back of speaker is exposed.

milkmania
04-11-2013, 03:47 PM
I'm exactly the same way. I actually had called three installers because I figured I would get a wrinkle somewhere and drive me freak'n crazy. Two blew me off and the third came to the house.....COMPLETE NUT JOB. Now way he was touching my boat.
I know the guys said I ordered too much carpet but this guy said he needed a piece 12'x28'.


sniffing too much carpet glue, perhaps???

someone told you that you needed 28 foot length carpet for a PS190:confused::confused::confused:

the 190 means it's a 19' boat.......8p

you're in OKC, I'm 3.5 hours away. on the OK/ARK state line

kenps190
04-11-2013, 05:34 PM
sniffing too much carpet glue, perhaps???

someone told you that you needed 28 foot length carpet for a PS190:confused::confused::confused:

the 190 means it's a 19' boat.......8p

you're in OKC, I'm 3.5 hours away. on the OK/ARK state line


I asked for photos or example of work....it seems someone broke into the house and stole all of the photos:huh: Then asked for a down payment for labor....:eek:

Looking for more lake options (that wont stain the boat red) for long weekends. You have any good spots?

milkmania
04-11-2013, 07:11 PM
I asked for photos or example of work....it seems someone broke into the house and stole all of the photos:huh: Then asked for a down payment for labor....:eek:

Looking for more lake options (that wont stain the boat red) for long weekends. You have any good spots?


I'm very partial to Tenkiller, lots of good memories @ Snake Creek Marina and Party Cove.......;););)

http://tenkillerlake.wordpress.com/lake-tenkiller-history-2/

http://www.laketenkiller.com/

Tenkiller State Park is known as Oklahoma's "heaven in the hills." The sparkling blue waters of Lake Tenkiller offer water enthusiasts an abundance of recreational opportunities including water skiing, fishing, boating, tubing and scuba diving.
http://www.travelok.com/listings/view.profile/id.7706 & view the slide show:)



http://therideinstyle.com/march07/thumb.html
shameless plug:rolleyes:

MikeyOrange88
04-12-2013, 12:26 AM
Just finished my '88 Tristar closed bow and replaced it bow to stern. I used a piece 8.5' wide by 18' that I split into two halves for the port and starboard pieces. I needed another 8.5 w. by 7' that was cut basically into four pieces for the three center panels and the drivers kick piece. One tip though, I cut the motor box piece, 10" x 13' prior to splitting the main piece in two.
I agree on the glue, buy a gallon of solvent (mineral spirits) and have plenty of rags. I just kept a rag soaked in solvent handy. Also, when wrapping the floor panels on the bottom, I taped off just inside of where carpet ended and then spread glue to the tape. Pull the tape and then fold the carpet over so no glue is left exposed to get onto everything else.

orbeamlb
04-12-2013, 12:29 AM
what kind/brand of glue did you use? Looks like your old carpet wasn't too difficult to pull out and made nice templates.

MikeyOrange88
04-12-2013, 12:33 AM
I was able to lift the passenger seat base to get that side installed in one piece. The only seam is from the middle of the front panel up the bow along the center and around the lift ring bolt.

orbeamlb
04-12-2013, 12:39 AM
Looks great. Waiting on my carpet to arrive.

MikeyOrange88
04-12-2013, 12:43 AM
what kind/brand of glue did you use? Looks like your old carpet wasn't too to pull out and made nice templates.

Yes, it came out pretty well, only stuck really bad at a couple of spots in the main walk area. I bought the four gallon bucket from HD as once you have to buy the third single gallon size, the bigger bucket is less costly. I ended up using close to 3 gallons.

I'd be glad to share any other knowledge if anyone has questions.

orbeamlb
04-12-2013, 12:46 AM
Thanks for the info.

MikeyOrange88
04-12-2013, 05:24 PM
Thanks! I did order extra, just in case....based on measurements, I needed about 21ish feet. I ordered 27'.

OP ken-didn't mean to hijack your thread.:o
I don't think you could do it with much less than that. Mine took 25' of the roll for a Tristar and I believe the 190's have a longer interior. I think you'll be pleased with the corinthian carpet when you're done. The thickness/stiffness of the carpet makes it a little bit of a challenge to get it to mold the way you want. Get in the sun, it makes it easier.

kenps190
04-12-2013, 06:46 PM
OP ken-didn't mean to hijack your thread.:o
I don't think you could do it with much less than that. Mine took 25' of the roll for a Tristar and I believe the 190's have a longer interior. I think you'll be pleased with the corinthian carpet when you're done. The thickness/stiffness of the carpet makes it a little bit of a challenge to get it to mold the way you want. Get in the sun, it makes it easier.

Hey, no worries! Yours looks great and gives me some encouragement. Thanks for confirming carpet amount. I layed the old carpet out last night looking for best material usage. Ive not actually made any cuts yet. I hope to be installing Saturday.

How much sanding did you do on yours before you started the install?

MikeyOrange88
04-12-2013, 11:03 PM
Absolutely no sanding. The carpet in mine appeared to have been laid with a thin coat of spray applied adhesive. I scraped the floor and sides good with a putty knife, then sprayed some goof off type glue remover and scraped some more in order to get all the carpet fibers up. Another light spray and scrubbed it with a rag which got a lot of it off. I did not feel the need to get down to bare fiberglass as it was just going to get another coat of glue. Once you see the adhesive and trowel it on, you'll see what I mean. I just made sure it was smooth, no loose glue, and then vacuumed it thoroughly.. You can see a bit of the reddish glue material left on the sidewall and along the edge of the floor.

One more tip, make sure you get all of the carpet pieces for each side and the center panels turned the same direction off the roll. The 'lay' of the carpet will affect how it looks when down.

kenps190
04-12-2013, 11:27 PM
I'm very partial to Tenkiller, lots of good memories @ Snake Creek Marina and Party Cove.......;););)

http://tenkillerlake.wordpress.com/lake-tenkiller-history-2/

http://www.laketenkiller.com/


http://www.travelok.com/listings/view.profile/id.7706 & view the slide show:)



http://therideinstyle.com/march07/thumb.html
shameless plug:rolleyes:

We'll have to check out Tenkiller. Thanks for the info

kenps190
04-12-2013, 11:32 PM
Absolutely no sanding. The carpet in mine appeared to have been laid with a thin coat of spray applied adhesive. I scraped the floor and sides good with a putty knife, then sprayed some goof off type glue remover and scraped some more in order to get all the carpet fibers up. Another light spray and scrubbed it with a rag which got a lot of it off. I did not feel the need to get down to bare fiberglass as it was just going to get another coat of glue. Once you see the adhesive and trowel it on, you'll see what I mean. I just made sure it was smooth, no loose glue, and then vacuumed it thoroughly.. You can see a bit of the reddish glue material left on the sidewall and along the edge of the floor.

One more tip, make sure you get all of the carpet pieces for each side and the center panels turned the same direction off the roll. The 'lay' of the carpet will affect how it looks when down.

I think I was planning on over killing the sanding. I have one side smooth but there is still some witness marks of glue. You just saved me lots of time:woohoo:

kenps190
04-29-2013, 11:41 AM
I did not think this project was going to end between business travel and hockey practices. Here are some pics. As with every project I do......there was a bit of scope creep. I decided to add engine compartment insulation as well as a new sub and additional amp. This also added to the timeline.
http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0063_zps6787a8c3.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0063_zps6787a8c3.jpg.html)
probably not the right tool for the job but it was available and the right length.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0062_zps5f2bf775.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0062_zps5f2bf775.jpg.html)

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0066_zps6f691d7f.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0066_zps6f691d7f.jpg.html)

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0079_zpsd96f05ec.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0079_zpsd96f05ec.jpg.html)All but drivers seat complete

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0076_zpsb8b0d093.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0076_zpsb8b0d093.jpg.html)
I installed an additional MB Quart amp to drive my 10" Polk Audio sub

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0078_zps2e781cfb.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0078_zps2e781cfb.jpg.html)
Just placed here. I need to mount.

http://i1266.photobucket.com/albums/jj537/kenps190/DSC_0083_zps4d3d2880.jpg (http://s1266.photobucket.com/user/kenps190/media/DSC_0083_zps4d3d2880.jpg.html)

MikeyOrange88
04-29-2013, 01:54 PM
Oh yeah, scope creep. The basis of MCOCD.
That looks like it came out really well. Wish I had that kind of room in my garage.
Love the smell of fresh carpet in the morning.;)

1996 Prostar
06-29-2013, 01:25 PM
that looks great. What did you use on the inside of the motor box. I would like to get some and put in mine. thank you

mikeg205
06-29-2013, 04:02 PM
Looks great - get rid of that Fram filter or else!!!

orbeamlb
06-30-2013, 12:33 AM
New carpet looks great. Which subwoofer box did you use? Looks compact. Debating whether to purchase or build one.

kenps190
06-30-2013, 09:28 AM
that looks great. What did you use on the inside of the motor box. I would like to get some and put in mine. thank you

I put insulation from a hot rod shop as the liner. Basically it is a firewall material. i know other guys here put in other material much thicker but I'm really happy with the results. I bought a roll which was 4x8 for about $70.
All the material on my engine compartment was gone when I bought my boat so this was was a real improvement with a noticeable result.

kenps190
06-30-2013, 09:36 AM
New carpet looks great. Which subwoofer box did you use? Looks compact. Debating whether to purchase or build one.

I went with a sealed box because it was more compact. I had the same debate between building myself or buying, eventually went to a audio shop and bought a pre built box. I'm glad I did. I'm not an audio junky but the box sounds great. I mounted it just above the drivers foot rest, fit perfectly.

kenps190
06-30-2013, 09:38 AM
Looks great - get rid of that Fram filter or else!!!

Dang! I guess it may not really matter now after my engine post yesterday:mad:

1996 Prostar
06-30-2013, 03:25 PM
thank you for the info, it really looks great.

Phntmski
06-30-2013, 05:02 PM
Great job on the carpet! Garage ain't too shabby either.:)