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mzimme
02-15-2013, 02:44 PM
So I'm looking at an upgrade this season. Probably not for a few months, but I need to start keeping my eyes open in case a great deal pops up. I'm trying to determine which boat would fit the bill for what I'm looking for. I'm looking for a good crossover boat, less than $25k (ideally around 20k), and something that will handle chop at least a little better than my S&S.

So far the X-9 seems to fit the bill when it comes to what I'm looking for. I want to be able to ski, board, and surf. I'm not a pro at any of it, so I don't need the "best" in any of those categories. The 205 hull that was in many different forms was also a thought for me.

I want something that is "better" in chop. I realize neither of these boats are ideal, but they can't be any worse than the back breaking ride of a S&S in anything that's not glass. I'd like a tower, and ballast would be nice, but not essential as I could add that. X9 is my front runner at this point, since I've seen a few from 01-03 for anywhere from 19k to 22k that look like good boats, and a solid price. I don't care about v-drive or direct drive either.

Thoughts?

TxsRiverRat
02-15-2013, 02:53 PM
Surely you have you thought of an X7? PS197 hull, adapted to accommodate for boarding....

:popcorn:

clrussell
02-15-2013, 02:54 PM
I'm watching... I'll be in the same situation in a few years


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mzimme
02-15-2013, 02:58 PM
Surely you have you thought of an X7? PS197 hull, adapted to accommodate for boarding....

:popcorn:

I have, but the incredibly flat bottom has made me weary. I want to be able to take this boat on the ozarks or table rock on busy weekends and be able to survive. I can't do that with my S&S at the moment.

g-Dog
02-15-2013, 03:02 PM
I'd say the 205V platform would be ideal for your needs...or maybe I'm just biased.:D

djkslc
02-15-2013, 03:07 PM
3 years ago I went from a 91 maristar 210 direct drive to a 2002 Xstar (205V hull) and it was the best decision I may have ever made. Perfect crossover boat. Ski wake is bigger than my direct drive, but I am not good enough to care. We ski, sky ski, wakeboard and surf. Perfect boat for a group of 6 or 7 people that like to do different things behind the boat.

You can probably find an early 2000 for around 25K.

lakeoz tristar
02-15-2013, 03:40 PM
What ever happened to the Supra you were looking at?

bobx1
02-15-2013, 03:43 PM
Another vote for 205v platform. Best hull MC ever made. Will do both ski and board VERY well.

mzimme
02-15-2013, 03:46 PM
What ever happened to the Supra you were looking at?

I bought it, but I don't want to keep it. I got the thing for half of what it's worth, I'm going to flip that and buy something else using the equity I build on that and the money I get for selling my S&S. My dad fronted me the cash for the Supra since I can make 12-15 grand flipping it, so I have to pay him back his intial investment, otherwise I would keep the Supra. Honestly though, I want another MC. The supra is definitely nice, but it doesn't give me that warm fuzzy feeling inside.

Dylan
02-15-2013, 04:02 PM
Wow, great find! I'm interested in what you end up with. Are you going to post your build thread on the new Supra?

TayMC197
02-15-2013, 04:15 PM
I have taken my 197 in some choppy water before and it actually handles it great, nothing near like my old 190.

Check out that 197 just posted in the market place... might be up your ally...

VP46
02-15-2013, 04:18 PM
Another vote for 205v hulled x-stars = does it all and very well. (IME Surfing requires extra ballast in the range of 300# - 500# to be able to drop rope)

mzimme
02-15-2013, 04:31 PM
Wow, great find! I'm interested in what you end up with. Are you going to post your build thread on the new Supra?

Yeah I will once I get going on it. I'll need help with some repairs and things like that I need to make to the gel-coat.

bcd
02-15-2013, 05:00 PM
I had my X Star (205v) at Lake of the Ozarks once. I survived, but going over 20 mph was not possible in the main channel. Occasionally, you have to slow way down for the bigger waves. I've also had my 2012 X-2 out there. It was better, but still not a fun cruise.

sand2snow22
02-15-2013, 05:08 PM
What happened to Supra 20V?

Footin
02-15-2013, 05:19 PM
I am in the same situation, I have started looking for a 209, X9, 205V, X1 or older X-Star.

mzimme
02-15-2013, 05:21 PM
What happened to Supra 20V?

I have it. Going to fix it up and sell it. My dad loaned me the money to buy it knowing I can flip it and make some cash. I'm going to use the cash I make on that boat plus the cash I make selling my S&S to buy something newer than what I have. The supra just needs some TLC and she'll be a money making machine for me. Then I can pay dad off, use the extra money and buy myself something of my own without a loan :)

uplander
02-15-2013, 05:21 PM
LOTO is beyond chop when busy, curious to see what you end up with

mzimme
02-15-2013, 05:26 PM
Here's that supra... can't see the damage in this picture, but it has some gouges on the port side gelcoat, and has a big knick out of the nose where the guy hit it on the dock. The kid that owned this didn't take care of it at all. Besides that, it just needs a real good interior cleaning and a few new seat skins as well as a good buff/polish/wax, and it'll be a great boat.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/20130208_141944_zps291d5f70.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/20130208_163713_zps53cd280f.jpg

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/20130208_163733_zps4fc73540.jpg

02ProstarSammyD
02-15-2013, 05:52 PM
I have it. Going to fix it up and sell it. My dad loaned me the money to buy it knowing I can flip it and make some cash. I'm going to use the cash I make on that boat plus the cash I make selling my S&S to buy something newer than what I have. The supra just needs some TLC and she'll be a money making machine for me. Then I can pay dad off, use the extra money and buy myself something of my own without a loan

Someone on WW would love to buy that boat hahahah

mzimme
02-15-2013, 05:59 PM
Someone on WW would love to buy that boat hahahah

Haha you see that thread? Dude was livid.

neil.anderson63
02-15-2013, 06:27 PM
I wish I would of known - We just sold our 05 X9 in October - High $20's, 350 hours, Orange, perfect shape - great all around boat - Runs ok in the chop. Decent wake for skiing, fill the two ballast tanks and you've got a nice wake for boarding or surfing.

mikeg205
02-15-2013, 07:05 PM
Haha you see that thread? Dude was livid.

got a link...would love to read it.... ;)

east tx skier
02-15-2013, 07:10 PM
I say grab a 205 if you lean toward skiing, 205v if you lean toward boarding. You can always make up the weight in the back of the 205v for with ballast. It's a bit hard remove the aft weight in the 205v to replicate a direct drive for skiing. The second generation 205 does fine in the chop, particularly when compared to an older Stars & Stripes.

VP46
02-15-2013, 07:51 PM
Here's that supra... can't see the damage in this picture, but it has some gouges on the port side gelcoat, and has a big knick out of the nose where the guy hit it on the dock. The kid that owned this didn't take care of it at all. Besides that, it just needs a real good interior cleaning and a few new seat skins as well as a good buff/polish/wax, and it'll be a great boat.

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u99/zimstang/20130208_163733_zps4fc73540.jpg


So how are you planning on taking care of those gouges? I have a buddy that has one gouge like those and though it is not as deep as yours it does go through two colors of Gel. I told him I'd help him fix it.....

Are you doing that work yourself or having it professionally done?

mzimme
02-15-2013, 07:58 PM
So how are you planning on taking care of those gouges? I have a buddy that has one gouge like those and though it is not as deep as yours it does go through two colors of Gel. I told him I'd help him fix it.....

Are you doing that work yourself or having it professionally done?

That stuff I'll be attempting to do myself. You can get color matched gel, thankfully this should be easier since it's white, and white blends much easier than trying to match a colored gel. I'll try one scratch, see how it turns out and evaluate the situation as to whether I want to continue on or give it to a pro. Youtube videos don't make it seem too bad as long as you're ok with wetsanding... that's about all it consists of. Clean the gouge, fill the gouge, sand and polish to a nice finish.

The nose I'll definitely have done professionally

jhall0711
02-15-2013, 08:15 PM
got a link...would love to read it.... ;)

http://www.wakeworld.com/forum/showthread.php?t=796871

clrussell
02-15-2013, 10:14 PM
Just read it.. Kinda funny.. O well, glad you got a sweet deal and someone had to buy it!


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mzimme
02-15-2013, 10:18 PM
I say grab a 205 if you lean toward skiing, 205v if you lean toward boarding. You can always make up the weight in the back of the 205v for with ballast. It's a bit hard remove the aft weight in the 205v to replicate a direct drive for skiing. The second generation 205 does fine in the chop, particularly when compared to an older Stars & Stripes.

At the moment I do more boarding than skiing, but I'm not exclusive to either. I like that there's more room in the 209/x9, as well as it being a little better in rougher water. I'm also more partial to the looks of the 209/x9. I think it'll come down to the deal I get whether I take a variation of the 205 or the 209 though, as I'd love either one.

Stritt
02-15-2013, 10:43 PM
We lived in Columbia, MO about 10 years ago and had a 205v at the time......LOTO and a 205v is not a good combination on weekends. Anywhere else Norfork, Bull Shoals and Table Rock was great. LOTO and ski boats during the weekends are not a good combination.

Stritt
02-15-2013, 10:45 PM
We lived in Columbia, MO about 10 years ago and had a 205v at the time......LOTO and a 205v is not a good combination on weekends. Anywhere else Norfork, Bull Shoals and Table Rock was great. LOTO and ski boats during the weekends are not a good combination. A 209 would be even worse.....we never attempted with ours.

neil.anderson63
02-16-2013, 03:13 PM
We also have a 205V / X Star - Nice boat, I like the cabin setup over the X9 - When you get more than 4 in the X9... It gets pretty cozy. I think the 205V / X Star rides a little better in rough water - Slalom wake is not as flat as X9 - Much nicer wakeboard / surf wake. Something to consider - Shoot for 05 and up to get swiveling board racks -