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uplander
01-20-2013, 08:41 PM
Looking at used X30 models and found a used 2004. After discussing with the owner he mentioned that the motor was replaced 3 yrs ago because it froze in winter. This immediatley put up a red flag for me but wanted to ask the members on this forum thoughts.

second question:

We are family boaters, we ski, kneeboard and wakeboard. I would also like to surf and I think the X30 would fit us. Would like something in the 22 - 24' range.

This would be my first direct drive boat, everything stern drive.

Any suggestion on model or year would be appreciated also, my budget is in the 25 - 30K range

thanks for any replies or info

nickespi
01-20-2013, 08:56 PM
X-30 is a great all-around boat. Makes great wakeboard wake and the factory ballast is decent enough to surf. I suggest going with a different prop than stock. For your budget, sounds like 02-04 should be attainable. Just remember that MC upholstery sucked in those years. I battling this now.

uplander
01-20-2013, 09:46 PM
he did mention the seats have some cracks

51timber
01-20-2013, 10:22 PM
I have a 2003 x30. I LOVE IT. Its not as uncommon as you might think to hear someone pushed it too far in the season and wound up with a frozen block. That being said he probably learned is lesson. Just get it properly inspected. As far as the interior goes??? Yep t was thin in those years. MC has since improved. As we speak Jim at Viper customs is redoing my entire interior.

Depending on the price... It's one heck of a boat!

uplander
01-20-2013, 10:34 PM
he is asking 28K, he advertised it with 200 hrs. he is stating new motor only has 30 hrs


thanks for feedback on the X30, do you surf behind yours

Latetowork
01-21-2013, 05:20 AM
I have a 2003 x30. I LOVE IT. Its not as uncommon as you might think to hear someone pushed it too far in the season and wound up with a frozen block. That being said he probably learned is lesson. Just get it properly inspected. As far as the interior goes??? Yep t was thin in those years. MC has since improved. As we speak Jim at Viper customs is redoing my entire interior.

Depending on the price... It's one heck of a boat!

^^^
I think we have the same boat.

I echo what 51timber said, it's an very solid boat but get it inspected.

That said, the interior will need to be redone with updated vinyl if it hasn't already (mines cracking). The new engine call out, shouldn't be that big of a deal depending on if it was a rebuild or a new crate motor, but I would try to talk the owner down a bit because of it (if it was me, I would).

Get it inspected, check the driver side panel with the shifter on it and all the switches. Many times from this model year, that panel had to be replaced due to bad design, but it's not that pricey if it has to be done. But if it was a hack job, you could end up with ballast tanks not working or bad throttle response.

Mine's been bullet proof outside of general maintenance on a 10 year old boat, and tbh I've had more issues with my trailer than the boat. Replaced the swing away tongue with a UFP (http://www.ufpnet.com/Actuators/tabid/54/Default.aspx), and four the brakes including the brake lines......

nickespi
01-21-2013, 09:31 AM
I'd say at that price with a new engine it's not a bad deal. Maybe aim for 25k. If he bites, good for you. If not, you still win. And yes I surf behind mine. You can right out of the box.

bsloop
01-21-2013, 02:24 PM
Sounds like you are relatively right on in size, budget and and capablilty.

Again, find out how the replacement engine was handled and who did it. Might talk to them and/or who ever regularly works on the boat. Dont expect too much but you might gain some info and its only a phone call.
If they froze the block, any chance hard ballast tanks cracked?
Always do a full lake test! Many problems can hide even sitting on a hose. If it is cold, bundle up and offer to rewinterize. It will pay off as will a $150 payment to a local boat mechanic to meet you and look it over if you dont know boats well.

If you are trailering it any distance, make sure the bearings have been repacked, how old the tires are and the last time the brakes were bled.
A $30 vacuum kit from harbor freight, almost any first timer can self bleed in less than an hour. That can tell you how rusty internal brake parts are and will probably easily pay for itself in negotiated price or knowing what you might be getting into.

uplander
01-21-2013, 09:14 PM
thanks for all the replies, I never thought of the ballast tanks freezing. the boat is in Texas and is not winterized so it could be started and probably water tested. This is probably the cheapest one I have found but one of the farthest away from me almost 10 hrs. Thanks for info on throttle panel and switches, how would I tell if it was changed.

bsloop
01-21-2013, 10:04 PM
If you feel 98% comfortable from phone and pics, you might try to pick a lake and meet in the middle.
Getting seller to travel helps assure the trailer is road worthy and they have an equal buy in to make the transaction work if there are minor issues.
Few is more disappointing than traveling that far and being significantly different than represented or the seller not willing to compromise knowing you want it and have everything invested in accepting while they just walk back inside.

I have bought two boats from the East coast this way.
Dont know where you are in the "midwest" or what part of tx but there are plenty of lakes along I-35

jafo9
01-22-2013, 08:32 AM
Its a decent all around hull. adding a trim plate really helps. we surf with ours. its not going to win any contests, but its ok. you'll be happier getting rid of the hard tanks and adding bigger bags. we currently run 750's in each locker and i'm planning to put 1100s in there for this season. Thats not really for the wakeboard wake but for the surf wakes. i'm also in the process of redoing the interior. the vinyl gets a bad rap, buts its not really that hard to fix.

on my upgrade wish list are a fresh air exhaust and an updated rudder.

kskonn
01-22-2013, 12:33 PM
where is it at in Texas, there are a lot of Texas guys on here and I am sure one of us could go check it out for you.

maha skier
01-22-2013, 02:25 PM
As nickespi says, look at the interior..I have an 04 X30, the only problem with the interior I found is the material mounted around the throttle area. The bolts holding it to the fiberglass tend to get loose and thus the whole panels falls off..Check and double check all the trim. For piece of mind on the motor, just get it check by your authorized MC dealer...

Thrall
01-22-2013, 03:14 PM
What engine does it have?
New interior will run $3k +. If only some vinyl is cracking, the rest is shortly to follow. Sucks that a 200hr boat needs new skins, but MC cheeped out from like 01 to 04?
If it has 30hrs on the new engine, everything should be working correctly.
It is definately not an adder for a new engine because a 200hr engine is still new.
Make sure ballast tanks didn't crack, that IS a big deal if it's the center tank (assume it's not removable without splitting the hull/deck like most). That said, the balalst tanks in MC's don't add much useful weight. The center tank is only good as a makeshift trim tab (keeps the nose down a bit).
Like others said, try to find someone to give it a once over before making the trip.
Other things, for $28k and needing new interior I'd expect it to be loaded. PP, bangin' stereo, heater, etc.
FWIW, the early 2000's vinyl is the only real achilles heel of any of the MC boats save for the new(er) Vdig/BIG issues. Vinyl is easy to replace, just not cheap.

uplander
01-22-2013, 07:59 PM
boat is in Dallas, it has the MCX motor which I believe is the 350 chevy.

here is the link to the boat - thanks for all the info guys


http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2004-Mastercraft-X-30-348017

I like this one also but getting out of price range - what year did the interior material get better

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2006-Mastercraft-X-30-101880579

uplander
01-24-2013, 10:10 PM
any thoughts on the two boats I posted

mtajpa
01-25-2013, 12:53 AM
Here's a couple 03 and an 06 if your willing to drive.

http://www.boulderboats.com/pre_owned_detail.asp?sid=07270929X1K24K2013J10I39I 48JPMQ2922R0&veh=3010208

http://www.boulderboats.com/new_vehicle_detail.asp?sid=07270929X1K24K2013J10I3 9I48JPMQ2922R0&veh=30731&pov=2950697

jafo9
01-25-2013, 05:45 AM
boat is in Dallas, it has the MCX motor which I believe is the 350 chevy.

here is the link to the boat - thanks for all the info guys


http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2004-Mastercraft-X-30-348017

I like this one also but getting out of price range - what year did the interior material get better

http://www.boattrader.com/listing/2006-Mastercraft-X-30-101880579

there is a big difference between the 01-05 X30's and the 06-11 X30's. The 06+ is a much more modern hull. The first X30 is basically the same hull that appeared in the 98 VRS 230. If I had a choice and the money difference wasn't too great, I'd go for the 06+ over the 05 and under hull. Having said that, we've been very happy with our 02 X30. The only thing it may do better than the newer hull is ski. The 06 is more of a wake/surf boat than its predecessor.