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fskof
01-09-2013, 11:29 PM
A friend of mine sent this to me

http://biertijd.com/mediaplayer/?itemid=38815

Tristarboarder
01-09-2013, 11:39 PM
My friend used to have one of those V10 turbo diesel Tauregs, they are bad Mo Fo's! I used to drive it a bit, it was a beast for sure. That clip was red neck for sure...funny

1redTA
01-10-2013, 08:25 AM
spinnin ain't winnin

bobbyB
01-10-2013, 10:26 AM
Put the truck in 4X and try it again....just sayin....

Ben
01-10-2013, 10:34 AM
Shocking. A pickup truck with no weight in the back spins the rear tires.

Does the vw have full time AWD?

Put both in 4wd.

scott023
01-10-2013, 10:35 AM
What a joke of a comparison. :confused:

bbymgr
01-10-2013, 10:44 AM
I noticed that they tried not to show the front wheels so that you couldn't tell it was in 2wd. The videos like this are a farce. It is someone trying to justify the fact that they have a "grocery getter". There is nothing wrong with having a "cross over" style car; my wife drives a Ford Edge. Just don't try to compare it to a full sized 4wd truck.

JimN
01-10-2013, 10:46 AM
Shocking. A pickup truck with no weight in the back spins the rear tires.

Does the vw have full time AWD?

Put both in 4wd.

A fat chick in a lawn chair can fix that.

jdl xstar
01-10-2013, 11:05 AM
The Touareg V10 diesel is a beast and I would put money on it out-pulling that type of truck with 4WD. But a complaint about the V10 T reg is that it is not good in the mud since it is SO heavy.

Here it is pulling a 747...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOG90IQEbhI

LTWon
01-11-2013, 04:07 PM
The Touareg V10 diesel is a beast and I would put money on it out-pulling that type of truck with 4WD. But a complaint about the V10 T reg is that it is not good in the mud since it is SO heavy.

Here it is pulling a 747...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOG90IQEbhI


I would have to disagree. 4wd duramax with an advantage of 897 curb weight lbs, 87 hp and 212 lb ft of torque would win this battle. There is a huge advantage to the toureg in 4wd and 2wd due to traction. This truck in 4wd and the outcome would be different.

TayMC197
01-11-2013, 05:42 PM
Not a fair comparison, toureg is designed to not have weight on the rear. Put a 4,000 pound trailer at least behind the duramax then try this again. Duramax would drag it around. I own a duramax and my mom had a toureg before switching to BMW. I know what both are capable of but there needs to be a happy medium of the two. Toureg is a sweet little ride. I'm looking at getting the VW passat tdi here pretty soon.

TxsRiverRat
01-11-2013, 06:41 PM
A fat chick in a lawn chair can fix that.

:D :D :D :D :D

milkmania
01-11-2013, 06:46 PM
A fat chick in a lawn chair can fix that.

and a 6 pack of bud lighthttp://68.178.167.89/smf/Smileys/default/happy2.gif

drschemel
01-11-2013, 07:41 PM
you'll notice that the truck seems to have an open differential as well so it was only spining one tire vs 4 tires pulling on the toureg with traction control. Still, I doubt that a lot of small SUV's would have enough torque to pull the Chevy backwards.

ttu
01-11-2013, 07:51 PM
the touareg v10 tdi weighs almost 7000 lbs. not really a small suv when it comes to weight.

i have the new v6 tdi and it tows my x2 better than my 07 tahoe with much better fuel economy.

CruisinGA
01-11-2013, 10:38 PM
It's all about the normal force...
http://www.affinite.com/images/nerd-series.jpg

jdl xstar
01-12-2013, 12:15 PM
I would have to disagree. 4wd duramax with an advantage of 897 curb weight lbs, 87 hp and 212 lb ft of torque would win this battle. There is a huge advantage to the toureg in 4wd and 2wd due to traction. This truck in 4wd and the outcome would be different.

The Durmax has 765 lb ft torque?

Toareg V10 turbo diesel has 553 lb ft torque at 2000rpm. My quick search showed duramax as having a very respectable peak torque of 520 lb ft. But perhaps there are variations of the engine that I didn't see.

clrussell
01-12-2013, 12:21 PM
The lml duramax which is the newest one shows 765 ft lbs at 1600 rpm :)


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clrussell
01-12-2013, 12:24 PM
The duramax in the video looks like a lmm (07.5-10) the are 650 ft lbs factory..


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jdl xstar
01-12-2013, 12:31 PM
The lml duramax which is the newest one shows 765 ft lbs at 1600 rpm :)


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Aha, I see. Wow that is a lot! I think i saw a spec sheet for 04. :o

Voodoo
01-12-2013, 01:29 PM
The Touareg V10 diesel is a beast and I would put money on it out-pulling that type of truck with 4WD. But a complaint about the V10 T reg is that it is not good in the mud since it is SO heavy.

Here it is pulling a 747...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOG90IQEbhI

So it is on par with him...

thatsmrmastercraft
01-12-2013, 02:24 PM
So it is on par with him...

:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhamme

Stefan
01-12-2013, 08:50 PM
...stupid comparison, wouldn't want to go 100mph+ with a pickup truck or pull 10.000lbs with a Touareg...

pram
01-13-2013, 02:22 PM
I would be curious to see how this would have gone if the chevy was in 4x4. Even then it would have only been a 2 wheel drive. 1 front and 1 back

So 2 wheel drive vs all wheel drive

The VW has a lower center of gravity

The power numbers are so close percentage wise, that I doubt it would have much of an influence

The truck would probably start wheel hopping in 4x4 and possibly break something

east tx skier
01-13-2013, 04:40 PM
The V10 TDI Toureg is a beast, but more than anything, I think it comes down to the knobbly off road tires on the Chevy. No traction, no joy.

TayMC197
01-13-2013, 04:40 PM
Not sure if this is on all gm's but in 4 wheel my differential locks.

Sullivan
01-13-2013, 04:55 PM
That is a limited slip rear end in yours. not a locker. The latest version I think...a 2012 maybe 2011 has a locker that kicks in once the rear starts to slip.

That video is on Youtube as well and I swear I hear the guy say that he is locking it in 4wd at the beginning and that is why they are rolling forward. I then hear a snap once he starts to spin. I could be wrong though.

Sullivan
01-13-2013, 04:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k62gW3Se5e0

east tx skier
01-13-2013, 05:42 PM
Not sure if this is on all gm's but in 4 wheel my differential locks.

Yeah, I have an old Ford. So I forgot about LSD. I bet my old jeep could have given that VW a run for its money in 4 Wheel Low. :)

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/attachment.php?attachmentid=9522&stc=1&d=1146674241

gotjag941
01-13-2013, 08:09 PM
I personally have a brand new duramax that I pull with almost daily there is no way that the dmax is in 4x id hook up to anything you want completely bone stock

Sullivan
01-13-2013, 10:31 PM
The GM is known for breaking tie rod ends.

Do a search on Youtube. Lots to watch. The Dmax seems to loose most tugs too.

clrussell
01-13-2013, 10:39 PM
Yeah the duramax is rough on steering parts.. But there are fixes for that


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Sullivan
01-13-2013, 10:59 PM
Yeah there are. Either way you look at it, a tug o war is pretty dang stupid. The weak link on a Dmax is the independent suspension but its also a big selling point. Its a give and take. 95% of the time the independent suspension is going to do just fine.

pram
01-13-2013, 11:22 PM
That is a limited slip rear end in yours. not a locker. The latest version I think...a 2012 maybe 2011 has a locker that kicks in once the rear starts to slip.

That video is on Youtube as well and I swear I hear the guy say that he is locking it in 4wd at the beginning and that is why they are rolling forward. I then hear a snap once he starts to spin. I could be wrong though.

You damn straight he says he's locking it in and then bang, that Chevy broke.

Wheel hop until something snapped

That VW out pulled that Chevy all day long

fstaslp
01-13-2013, 11:28 PM
Both rear tires were smoking also...

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pram
01-13-2013, 11:37 PM
I personally have a brand new duramax that I pull with almost daily there is no way that the dmax is in 4x id hook up to anything you want completely bone stock

He clearly states (turn the volume up) that he is "LOCKING" it in at the beginning of the video

There are lots of tug of wars from Hillbillies have a look

TayMC197
01-14-2013, 11:20 AM
That is a limited slip rear end in yours. not a locker. The latest version I think...a 2012 maybe 2011 has a locker that kicks in once the rear starts to slip.

That video is on Youtube as well and I swear I hear the guy say that he is locking it in 4wd at the beginning and that is why they are rolling forward. I then hear a snap once he starts to spin. I could be wrong though.

I'll take a picture but its has a locker on the rear end. I even have a button in the cab that will lock it without being in 4 wheel drive. Could be after market but the previous owner said they ordered it on the truck from the factory.

My Lifted D-Max was LSD... It was great when not towing but in slippery conditions, I liked having the rear in locked.

TayMC197
01-14-2013, 11:22 AM
Yeah there are. Either way you look at it, a tug o war is pretty dang stupid. The weak link on a Dmax is the independent suspension but its also a big selling point. Its a give and take. 95% of the time the independent suspension is going to do just fine.

Agreed, I love the ride of the independent but hate that upkeep on it. My last d max was lifted, it was always wearing parts out but that's expected.

Sullivan
01-14-2013, 09:13 PM
TayMC197, Your truck might have the locker. I just saw a picture of it on the Tow Rig thread. It looks like the latest generation.

ahhudgins
01-14-2013, 09:42 PM
If it's on the Internet, it MUST be true. How do I know? I read it on the Internet.
For a split second you can see that the front tires are rolling backward as the rear tires are spinning. The truck was not in 4WD IMO.

TayMC197
01-14-2013, 09:54 PM
TayMC197, Your truck might have the locker. I just saw a picture of it on the Tow Rig thread. It looks like the latest generation.

Correction, was told the dealer added this option. Wasn't factory. I called the previous owner, friend of mine.

thatsmrmastercraft
01-14-2013, 09:59 PM
Probably just because it's a chebby:rolleyes::D:D

OK, how about that it has mud tires on the street = limited footprint = not much traction.

east tx skier
01-14-2013, 11:03 PM
OK, how about that it has mud tires on the street = limited footprint = not much traction.

Seems like someone really intelligent said that yesterday. :)

thatsmrmastercraft
01-14-2013, 11:40 PM
Seems like someone really intelligent said that yesterday. :)

I didn't say that yesterday.:rant:


















Assuming it was you??? Must have missed it.:confused:

scott023
01-15-2013, 02:11 PM
Not sure if this is on all gm's but in 4 wheel my differential locks.

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TayMC197
01-15-2013, 02:24 PM
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not this time...

scott023
01-15-2013, 05:03 PM
not this time...

Just realized he was a mod. 8p:D

pram
01-15-2013, 05:26 PM
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not this time...

Just realized he was a mod. 8p:D

Sorry, I accidently hit the wrong button when I was trying to quote

thatsmrmastercraft
01-15-2013, 05:32 PM
Sorry, I accidently hit the wrong button when I was trying to quote

Too many buttons:confused: