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Kyle
12-03-2012, 11:03 PM
I'm considering buying a tool kit from Home Depot or Lowes.


I'm looking to get a drill, combo kit.

Drill
Impact gun
Sawsall
Circular saw
Light
Etc


Here is my question. What brand do I buy. Dewalt, makita, ryobi, Milwaukee, rigid, etc?

Dewalt and makita have good tools but not as many to choose from. Ryobi has lots of tools and lots of tools that run off of the same batteries like not just a light but a spotlight, portable vacuum, inflator blow up tool, portable grinder, sawsall, drills, impact guns, etc.

I use Snap-On hand tools so keep that in mind. Not trying to be hoity toity I just like high end tools. I used to be a service tech and know that I don't want cheap tools or harbor freight crap.


My porter cable drill needs replacement and I'm more interested in buying a combo kit now. The porter cable lasted 12 years. The drill still works great but the batteries need replacement. I am going to check on the replacement batteries to see cost or even if they are even available for replacement. If they are $75 each and I would want 2 of them, then I would probably buy a kit.


I'm looking for a good tool, not the cheapest, just a real good all around tool that will last.


Thanks Guys

Phntmski
12-03-2012, 11:17 PM
I'll be interested in this.

ncsone
12-03-2012, 11:17 PM
If you want to go high-end, then Milwaukee is your brand from what I have heard. I hear only good reviews of the M12 and M18 line of tools and there are more choices (check out Amazon.com) that I could have imagined. They are definitely pro-grade. Plus, I think they are doing some promo stuff (free extra battery) at Home Depot now. Plus, they are made in USA from what I understand.

That being said, I have an old 18v Dewalt drill/driver that has lasted me 15 years with only a battery upgrade. It is a workhorse, but it is heavy. I still consider them pro-grade, but I think the newer Dewalt stuff may be coming in from offshore.

I also recently bought a Hitachi 12 volt drill/driver from Lowes for something like $65. I expected nothing, knew it was from off shore, but needed something right then as I was out of town. It has been much better than expected. Although it is not quite as beefy as the 18v Dewalt, it more than holds it's own for a $60 drill/driver.

BTW, you can check out the Garage Journal forum (www.garagejournal.com) for more info on all of these. There are tons of discussions of everything tool related over there.

This is coming from someone who has a roll cab of Snap-On tools as well. I can appreciate the quality.

XtwentyNot
12-03-2012, 11:28 PM
This is where it's at I've had them all. I run higher end makita cordless drills and brushless impact driver but there's no need to go there. This is all you need and a free multi tool!
http://www.cpoindustrialpowertools.com/makita-lxt601-18v-cordless-lxt-lithium-ion-6-piece-combo-kit/mktnlxt601,default,pd.html?start=8&cgid=makita-cordless-combo-kits

MIskier
12-03-2012, 11:29 PM
I've had the Rigid combo set for a few years now and they are about bullet proof, and you cant beat their warranty. My cousin had given me an old beat up rigid drill that needed to be repaired and Rigid took care of it no issue.

The one thing that sucks about the rigid set is the crappy carry bag they give you.

XtwentyNot
12-03-2012, 11:35 PM
That reminds me, even the Makita bag is the best!

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
12-03-2012, 11:41 PM
I love my makitas, one battery 18v lxt lithium ion does it all, drill, flashlight, 3/8" impact, underhood shop light.

Sodar
12-03-2012, 11:48 PM
I have about ever 18 volt tool Dewalt makes and have not had any issues. That said, if I had the funds, Milwaukee would be my choice.

Kyle
12-03-2012, 11:57 PM
I'm really liking the Makita kit that was posted up.


I don't mind the brushless or brushed kits. The price point is not really that much.

So it looks like the makita over the dewalt.

I'm sure Milwaukee is real nice but I'm interested in more than a couple of tools. Milwaukee just is not as big on the types of tools.

hurricunning
12-04-2012, 12:02 AM
This is where it's at I've had them all. I run higher end makita cordless drills and brushless impact driver but there's no need to go there. This is all you need and a free multi tool!
http://www.cpoindustrialpowertools.com/makita-lxt601-18v-cordless-lxt-lithium-ion-6-piece-combo-kit/mktnlxt601,default,pd.html?start=8&cgid=makita-cordless-combo-kits

Ditto on this. The little impact driver in that kit is one of the handiest tools I have. You can drive a deck screw right through a stud like it was made of cheese. Make sure you get the kit with the big batteries as some of the kits may seem cheaper but have the smaller batteries. The cheaper kits may also have the lighter duty hammer drill. I did burn one of those out when I was augering 1/2" holes through multiple landscape ties and accidentally had my hand mashed over the cooling vents. I ran it obliviously, grinding through them until the drill actually caught on fire. Lots of power in those tools. No problems with warranty. :o

Kyle
12-04-2012, 12:10 AM
That reminds me, even the Makita bag is the best!

Do the bags have pockets or some kind of divider for each tool, battery, charger etc


Also in these kits are we looking at just 1-2 batteries or 1:tool

XtwentyNot
12-04-2012, 12:14 AM
Ditto on this. The little impact driver in that kit is one of the handiest tools I have. You can drive a deck screw right through a stud like it was made of cheese. Make sure you get the kit with the big batteries as some of the kits may seem cheaper but have the smaller batteries. The cheaper kits may also have the lighter duty hammer drill. I did burn one of those out when I was augering 1/2" holes through multiple landscape ties and accidentally had my hand mashed over the cooling vents. I ran it obliviously, grinding through them until the drill actually caught on fire. Lots of power in those tools. No problems with warranty. :o

Part number is 1830 for the larger capacity battery, vs. the smaller 1815's

Kit I posted has 1830's. if you ever decide you need a better drill then what comes in the kit pick up one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Bare-Tool-Makita-BHP454Z-Lithium-Ion-Driver-Drill/dp/B001EYUQMS/ref=sr_1_3?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1354597786&sr=1-3&keywords=Makita+Bhp454


But I think you'll be content with the one in the kit.

XtwentyNot
12-04-2012, 12:16 AM
2 batteries in the kit, bag has it all! Pockets, wheels, pull out handle..Even my dewalt buddies buy makita bags to put their tools in!

Kyle
12-04-2012, 12:16 AM
I have about ever 18 volt tool Dewalt makes and have not had any issues. That said, if I had the funds, Milwaukee would be my choice.

I don't use these tools every day so I'm sure the dewalt or makita should work.


I'm kinda torn between the two.


I was at HD tonight and most of the 18v tools have if not the same then very close to the same ratings on their details sheets at the store.



Most of the kits with dewalt though are smaller kits with less tools per $$$. Kinda makes me wonder about better quality over the 2 brands.

Kyle
12-04-2012, 12:24 AM
Part number is 1830 for the larger capacity battery, vs. the smaller 1815's

Kit I posted has 1830's. if you ever decide you need a better drill then what comes in the kit pick up one of these:
http://www.amazon.com/Bare-Tool-Makita-BHP454Z-Lithium-Ion-Driver-Drill/dp/B001EYUQMS/ref=sr_1_3?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1354597786&sr=1-3&keywords=Makita+Bhp454


But I think you'll be content with the one in the kit.


Interested in the larger battery capacity vs lighter weight.


Not sure that I would need the other driver that you posted. I think the driver in the kit will be just fine.



How do you like the makita over the dewalt.

I have friends that have run dewalt, makita, and ryobi. I have been involved in odd projects and have tried all brands a time or two but then I go 6 mts before trying the next brand. So my comparison is more like I was thankful that there was a drill provided to complete the task.

XtwentyNot
12-04-2012, 12:28 AM
I gave my 4 piece dewalt 18 volt kit away, the tools work great but I was done buying batteries and rather then buy more I switched all together. Now I spend half as much time charging batteries. I have about 30 LXT Makita tools and 12 batteries than run daily with no failures in four years other than two batteries, that you can trade in for new ones at the local factory stores for $60.

XtwentyNot
12-04-2012, 12:31 AM
Those small batteries are worthless unless its a flashlight!

Kyle
12-04-2012, 12:34 AM
XTwentyNot that's real good info. Thank you


Sounds like you use the tools a lot and they can withstand the abuse of daily work, wear n tear, etc.

petermegan
12-04-2012, 05:40 AM
Kyle, It is funny that I have actually done the migration from Makita to Dewalt as I thought Makita quality has diminished in the last few years. I bought a made up kit with hammer drill, 2* drivers, 1/2" impact, angle grinder, reciprocating saw, shear, radio- charger, 12v charger,240v charger and 4 batteries all in 18v Lith ion. I actually thought that the angle grinder would be a waste of time but use it regularly when in a hurry outside of the shed, ditto for the impact driver. I bought a shed to put up (160'*80') and needed an array of tools. Put the whole roof on in approx. 6 hours with the two tek drivers! Out of laziness I quite often hang gates on my property using the Dewalt drill going through 10" strainers with an 11/16" wood auger bit, saves carting the generator around. The Lithium ion batteries are pretty spot on. If you stick with any of the top Dewalt,Makita,Milwaukee stuff you can't go too wrong, or they tell me Hitachi have lifted their game and may be worth looking at. Have fun.

mikeg205
12-04-2012, 06:47 AM
Can't wait to see what you get as new and get your review. I love Snap-on tools but that would be a waster for me. I need some new power tools as well it's been over a decade since I bought anything. Post a link of what you wind up buying please..thanks... :)

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
12-04-2012, 09:19 AM
XTwentyNot that's real good info. Thank you


Sounds like you use the tools a lot and they can withstand the abuse of daily work, wear n tear, etc.

The makitas lxt have held up very well for my daily use, like XTwentyNot said get the larger 3.0 ah batteries not the 1.5 ah batteries, I can go several days with heavy use on a single charge.

Rockman
12-04-2012, 09:51 AM
I switched from Dewalt to Milwaukee and will never go back...

fstaslp
12-04-2012, 10:02 AM
I know it is a lower spectrum than what you are looking at, but I have the Lithium Porter kit and it has been great. If someone is looking for a more cost effective solution, I have been very happy with this:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_39443-79992-PCL418C-2_4294707836__?productId=1244567&Ns=p_product_avg_rating|1

I also got the shop light and the angle grinder.

Sodar
12-04-2012, 10:23 AM
A little secret I use for the Dewalts. It probably works for any brand, but I have never looked.

When you go to Lowe's or Home Depot, check out the battery recycle bin for old battery packs matching your tools. I always look for the 18v XRP, since they are larger.

Then, go onto amazon and buy the rebuild kits. For $35, you can have a new battery.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S0CY8G?psc=1

I went from having 2 batteries that came with my combo kit to 6 batteries. Then, I just buy the $89 bare tools when they go on special at the local lumber yard. Some day, I would like to switch to the li-ion, but for now the Ni-cad will do.

76S&S
12-04-2012, 10:41 AM
If you're not going to be using them daily, then I would take a hard look at the porter cable. I've had their kit for a few years now with no issues.

Recently I needed a drill and was out of town. I picked up another complete kit (drill, impact, saw, sawzall, light,bag, 2 batteries and charger) for $129 at lowes. Just a drill with batteries and charger was $99 so I went for the whole kit.

cbryan70
12-04-2012, 11:35 AM
If you're not going to be using them daily, then I would take a hard look at the porter cable. I've had their kit for a few years now with no issues.

Recently I needed a drill and was out of town. I picked up another complete kit (drill, impact, saw, sawzall, light,bag, 2 batteries and charger) for $129 at lowes. Just a drill with batteries and charger was $99 so I went for the whole kit.

Porter or Ryobi for not daily use IMO. I have ryobi impact, drill, saw, light, and sawzaw and they have all worked great for what I need.

JohnE
12-04-2012, 12:11 PM
A little secret I use for the Dewalts. It probably works for any brand, but I have never looked.

When you go to Lowe's or Home Depot, check out the battery recycle bin for old battery packs matching your tools. I always look for the 18v XRP, since they are larger.

Then, go onto amazon and buy the rebuild kits. For $35, you can have a new battery.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007S0CY8G?psc=1

I went from having 2 batteries that came with my combo kit to 6 batteries. Then, I just buy the $89 bare tools when they go on special at the local lumber yard. Some day, I would like to switch to the li-ion, but for now the Ni-cad will do.

$43.50. I just bought a 2 pack or replacement batteriesat HD for $99. Not a lot of savings.

pmkkdx
12-04-2012, 12:17 PM
I recently went with Ridgid from a recommendation from my bro in law who uses them in his business. They even have a lifetime warranty (if you sign up within 90 days of purchase) on the batteries. He has never had any issues with warranty on the tools nor battery replacement.

Ben
12-04-2012, 12:39 PM
+1 on Makita lxt. They are balanced very nice IMO.

Big battery is good for all day use. Small battery is nice to keep on the drill or if you are using quickly for a small task. They charge quick too.

They also make a nice little vacuum my wife really likes for the wood floor. Justification for more batteries -- yay.

Lars
12-04-2012, 01:13 PM
What's the warranty on the milwaukee? Ridgid's warranty for non professionals is a lifetime warranty. Can't beat that.
Used to work a job which where i would drill 14-20 1/4" holes at a time in aluminum angle iron and would blast right through them. Some bosch drills we had would start smoking.

TayMC197
12-04-2012, 01:17 PM
I'm considering buying a tool kit from Home Depot or Lowes.


I'm looking to get a drill, combo kit.

Drill
Impact gun
Sawsall
Circular saw
Light
Etc


Here is my question. What brand do I buy. Dewalt, makita, ryobi, Milwaukee, rigid, etc?

Dewalt and makita have good tools but not as many to choose from. Ryobi has lots of tools and lots of tools that run off of the same batteries like not just a light but a spotlight, portable vacuum, inflator blow up tool, portable grinder, sawsall, drills, impact guns, etc.

I use Snap-On hand tools so keep that in mind. Not trying to be hoity toity I just like high end tools. I used to be a service tech and know that I don't want cheap tools or harbor freight crap.


My porter cable drill needs replacement and I'm more interested in buying a combo kit now. The porter cable lasted 12 years. The drill still works great but the batteries need replacement. I am going to check on the replacement batteries to see cost or even if they are even available for replacement. If they are $75 each and I would want 2 of them, then I would probably buy a kit.


I'm looking for a good tool, not the cheapest, just a real good all around tool that will last.


Thanks Guys

I perosnally own the Milwaukee but if I could go back I'd get the Dewalt. Reason being is because Dewalt offers more options for addon's and you can find better deals on them. Don't get me wrong, I love my milwaukee kit but my brother has the Dewalt which has things milwaukee just doesn't have yet. Both great brands, you really can't go wrong.

Sodar
12-04-2012, 01:27 PM
$43.50. I just bought a 2 pack or replacement batteriesat HD for $99. Not a lot of savings.

No savings at all. I've never seen 18v XRP's below the standard $119 for a 2-pack, but here (http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100124990/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=xrp+2+pack&storeId=10051#.UL4_8OQg-bM)they are!

I think I may grab a couple, just to keep in stock.

Thrall
12-04-2012, 05:04 PM
Probably a price break on them w/ all the LI batteries out there now.
Another way to get cheap batteries for cordless tools is go to HD or Lowes or wherever, big box stores and ask the guy in the tool dept if they have any extra batteries from the demo units.
I was in there one day contemplating buying a new 2 pack of Dewalt batteries or just buying new drill. Started b!tching to the guy who "asked if there was anything he could help me with" about how expensive the replacement batteries were. Decided to walk on hte batteries and a new drill to try to find some online cheaper or something.
He said wait lets see what we have laying around. He went and pulled a big box full of all kinds of tool batteries and marked up a couple Dewalt 18VXRP's at $30/ea I think and off I went.
He said that they always have extra batteries around that they can't sell that came with the demo models.

JohnE
12-04-2012, 06:15 PM
The $99 2 pack is a special price, but is a very regular occurance here. I just bought 2 of them. For $200 I now have 4 good batteries and my tools are in perfect shape. I used to buy more tools than batteries. I have spares of everything except the drill.

On a side note I like the old smaller 5.5" circular saw 100 times better than the larger one. Better ergonomics and takes half the space in my kit. I have 2 or 3 of them. I literally threw out a few of the newer styles that were brand new as I had no use for them.