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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 09:42 PM
Well, finally bit the bullet a few weeks ago and was able to swap these guys my perfectly good single axle for their double axle. Mine was a 1994, theirs a 1993. Perfect.

Here is what it looked like the day I bought it.....

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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 09:46 PM
First thing I needed to do is freshen up just the underside. Armed with a $5 can of spray paint, I hit a few spots underneath to tidy it up just a bit. Not too bad really! :D

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And into our VERY tight storage......don't think using the suburban was going to work!!

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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 09:53 PM
Next.....the fun part! My wife and I talked before the trade and I said if we made the swap, I would need to put some money into it. With that, I called up California trailer works and ordered up some new gear!

New tongue actuator for 4 disc brakes
New swing tongue (cut to my specific length of 20")
4 new rotors
4 new calipers
4 sets of new wheel bearings

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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 09:56 PM
I called a local trailer shop and asked if they could install new skid wheel mounts as well as the folding tongue. No problem. I also found a few cracks and they said they could fix them up. So off to the shop it goes......

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And drew the cut line for the Folding tongue.....

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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 10:02 PM
Just before taking off for Thanksgiving, I dropped the trailer off and had them do the work.

For the most part, everything looked good. However, the tongue was not done correctly and was not parallel with the rest of the boat frame....:mad::confused:

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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 10:06 PM
After thinking about all through Thanksgiving, I finally brought it in and told them the problem. They looked at it briefly and agreed 100%....whew! :D

So they re-did the trailer tongue again for me. MUCH better!

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Final weld.....Much better!


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Ski-me
11-28-2012, 10:08 PM
And in between the freezing evenings, I hit it with a little spray paint and looks sharp!

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that's it for now!

mcparadise
11-28-2012, 11:46 PM
I have the same trailer but single axle. I restored it this summer. It started out better than yours (98). I needle gunned the frame to bare metal pretty much and POR-15'd and then enameled it. Tires, brakes, etc etc,,,, as well.

But, rust is inside the channels. At the rear there are probably drain holes. Hopefully your fingers won't find, like my littles ones did--cancer rust and bad....When I told the Admiral, that was the humbling part.

I'm hoping to get a dry storage spot at the nearby base marina, then there is not so much risk of the trailer frame disintigrating while most probably on the highway....

Until then I'm taking chances. Heck, even launching poses a durn risk.

I HATE #$*#@* RUST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anyone got Santa's real address? I think I'll write and ask him to get some elves going to have me a new one made by Christmas. BUT, I doubt that will happen....

mikeg205
11-28-2012, 11:46 PM
Crap now you got me thinking about the swing away tongue now. My trailer on my 1995 was pretty darn close to rusty like yours... cool how a little elbow grease and a can of paint can make it look.

Your brake rebuild looks awesome.

Rockman
11-29-2012, 08:32 AM
Crap now you got me thinking about the swing away tongue now.

Your brake rebuild looks awesome.

This is priority #1 once we get our boat out of storage in the spring! Know any good welders in our area?

Legolamb
11-29-2012, 08:56 AM
Which brand and color spray paint did you use? Looks good and looks like a good color match.

milkmania
11-29-2012, 09:01 AM
I'm really thinking you need to get rid of that crappy looking K-5....man, that thing's just an eye sore http://deephousepage.com/smilies/slap.gif

PM me for my address and I can help you http://deephousepage.com/smilies/poke2.gif

Ski-me
11-29-2012, 12:01 PM
I'm really thinking you need to get rid of that crappy looking K-5....man, that thing's just an eye sore http://deephousepage.com/smilies/slap.gif

PM me for my address and I can help you http://deephousepage.com/smilies/poke2.gif

Don't get me started on that Blazer.....whole other story!! Let's just say I owned it in college, got married in it, had a kid, sold it and 12 years later, bought it back. That $3800 Blazer is now at least $11,000 Blazer! It has been fun restoring though, and ironically, the first kid (now 16) is driving it to school every day! :cool:

Ski-me
11-29-2012, 12:03 PM
Which brand and color spray paint did you use? Looks good and looks like a good color match.

I'll find the paint and post it up this evening if I get some time. It's not "bright white" but more of a very light, cream white. I actually really like it! But, as-is, not too bad either for spot work. :)

milkmania
11-29-2012, 12:21 PM
Don't get me started on that Blazer.....whole other story!! Let's just say I owned it in college, got married in it, had a kid, sold it and 12 years later, bought it back. That $3800 Blazer is now at least $11,000 Blazer! It has been fun restoring though, and ironically, the first kid (now 16) is driving it to school every day! :cool:

I've got a White/Red 88 K-5 that's been a subject in my divorce battle..... let's just say, "I've got a whole other story about mine too"

:uglyhamme

ttu
11-29-2012, 12:56 PM
I've got a White/Red 88 K-5 that's been a subject in my divorce battle..... let's just say, "I've got a whole other story about mine too"

:uglyhamme

dang milk, are you guys still not done with that?

milkmania
11-29-2012, 01:00 PM
dang milk, are you guys still not done with that?

divorced since August 2009.... still in Supreme Court over property division:(

I shoulda known, when my attorney said "Civil Supreme Court cases take a while":rolleyes:

latest news
08-27-2012 ASSIGNED TO COURT OF CIVIL APPEALS, TULSA; N/ATTYS

Ski-me
11-30-2012, 09:26 AM
Paint I used....

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mikeg205
11-30-2012, 10:37 AM
This is priority #1 once we get our boat out of storage in the spring! Know any good welders in our area?

No but I bet Traxx does...I'll have to PM him..

thatsmrmastercraft
11-30-2012, 11:21 AM
Nice work. You will love that trailer. I was lucky enough that mine came with a tandem.

Double D
11-30-2012, 11:52 AM
Looking GREAT SkiMe!! I did the swing-away tongue this past year too and love it. However, mine wasn't for space, I needed the extra length. Update my chains to cables which looks great!

Hmmm... Isn't that almost every guys wish?? :rolleyes:

Ski-me
11-30-2012, 12:19 PM
Looking GREAT SkiMe!! I did the swing-away tongue this past year too and love it. However, mine wasn't for space, I needed the extra length. Update my chains to cables which looks great!

Hmmm... Isn't that almost every guys wish?? :rolleyes:

Where did you find the cables? I actually told them to mount the safety chain anchor further back on the trailer but they decided to place it as forward as possible because of my existing cable length. If I can find some longer cables, I may still have them move it back a bit.

Double D
11-30-2012, 12:29 PM
Where did you find the cables? I actually told them to mount the safety chain anchor further back on the trailer but they decided to place it as forward as possible because of my existing cable length. If I can find some longer cables, I may still have them move it back a bit.

When I bought my new coupler I found them at the local marina. Mine are mounted towards the front which I don't see as a problem, since the Ramlin Swing-Away unit had them located there. IMO

Old and new pictures below.
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Phntmski
11-30-2012, 04:04 PM
Jeff, Excellent job on your trailer! I have a trailer that has no brakes. My winter project this year is to put disc brakes on it. I see you bought from Pacific Trailer. That's where I plan to shop my parts too. Did you consider the Vault system for grease? Did you install it? I'm thinking about it but would like to hear from a few who know it other than those selling it.

Rockman
11-30-2012, 05:25 PM
Jeff, Excellent job on your trailer! I have a trailer that has no brakes. My winter project this year is to put disc brakes on it. I see you bought from Pacific Trailer. That's where I plan to shop my parts too. Did you consider the Vault system for grease? Did you install it? I'm thinking about it but would like to hear from a few who know it other than those selling it.

Is Pacific Trailer the same as California Trailer Works? :confused:

Ski-me
11-30-2012, 06:15 PM
Is Pacific Trailer the same as California Trailer Works? :confused:

No, different from what I can tell.

I got it from California Trailer Works..... it was cheaper overall and CTW had the swing tongue I wanted (PT did not).

Haven't installed the brakes yet so don't know the ins and outs. :o

rgardjr1
11-30-2012, 07:54 PM
Don't get me started on that Blazer.....whole other story!! Let's just say I owned it in college, got married in it, had a kid, sold it and 12 years later, bought it back. That $3800 Blazer is now at least $11,000 Blazer! It has been fun restoring though, and ironically, the first kid (now 16) is driving it to school every day! :cool:

That's too funny Jeff. I replaced my swing away arm and brake actuator with the same one that you did this last summer. I haven't hooked the brake line back to the new master cylinder/actuator yet-it's on the list for next spring. Blazer looks as good as it did when you pulled it in to the parking lot at the house 23? years ago. My '72 is keeping the boat company in the garage up at our lake place. I had to put a HEI distributor in last summer when something in the original set up crapped out and I lost spark, but other than that it ran great all summer. Best part about the Blazer is that Kelli loves to drive it-I haven't taken any grief for buying since the original phone call I received after I sent her a picture of "her new rig". Bunch of guys were in town last weekend for the Apple Cup and had a great time hanging out on Saturday night. There's some talk about doing a reunion ...

Ski-me
11-30-2012, 08:23 PM
That's too funny Jeff. I replaced my swing away arm and brake actuator with the same one that you did this last summer. I haven't hooked the brake line back to the new master cylinder/actuator yet-it's on the list for next spring. Blazer looks as good as it did when you pulled it in to the parking lot at the house 23? years ago. My '72 is keeping the boat company in the garage up at our lake place. I had to put a HEI distributor in last summer when something in the original set up crapped out and I lost spark, but other than that it ran great all summer. Best part about the Blazer is that Kelli loves to drive it-I haven't taken any grief for buying since the original phone call I received after I sent her a picture of "her new rig". Bunch of guys were in town last weekend for the Apple Cup and had a great time hanging out on Saturday night. There's some talk about doing a reunion ...

About time you chimed in! Boy, you covered a lot in that paragraph! I was wondering how your Blazer turned out.....sounds like it was a great buy! Love to see it this summer if possible.

Well, when did I get that blazer, 88 or 89?? Long time ago. it's over 300k now...

Man, awesome game! Couldn't believe it really. Had a lot of Huskies in our house so that made it sweeter.

Yea, I couldn't resist on this trailer. I just didn't think I'd come across that deal anytime soon so I better pursue it the best I can.....fortunately it worked out.

Hope things are well bud! Say hi to Kelli :cool:

rgardjr1
12-01-2012, 12:30 PM
About time you chimed in! Boy, you covered a lot in that paragraph! I was wondering how your Blazer turned out.....sounds like it was a great buy! Love to see it this summer if possible.

Well, when did I get that blazer, 88 or 89?? Long time ago. it's over 300k now...

Man, awesome game! Couldn't believe it really. Had a lot of Huskies in our house so that made it sweeter.

Yea, I couldn't resist on this trailer. I just didn't think I'd come across that deal anytime soon so I better pursue it the best I can.....fortunately it worked out.

Hope things are well bud! Say hi to Kelli :cool:

I'm pretty sure the full size Blazer was purchased in the summer of '89. Didn't you get t-boned in the mid-sized brown one that summer? I thought I was buying the Blazer to be a lake rig to be left up at the lake place, but all the family wanted in town so we could use it more. So now my truck gets kicked out of the garage during the summer. Pretty awesome game for sure. Looks like you did great on the trailer trade. I've seen some of your fiber glass work so I'm sure that fender will look brand new when you get finished with it. Have a great winter and we'll see you this summer when you're in town.

Thrall
12-04-2012, 07:21 PM
Crap now you got me thinking about the swing away tongue now. My trailer on my 1995 was pretty darn close to rusty like yours... cool how a little elbow grease and a can of paint can make it look.

Your brake rebuild looks awesome.

Mike,
A cheap option in lieu of a swing away tongue is to build a fold down tongue. Prev owner had built it on my Prostar trailer, but it was sketchy, holes were wallowing out pretty bad.
I reinforced it with a couple pieces of angle/channel and re-drilled. Lasted many years and thousands of miles of safe towing.
If you got access to a welder this is about a $20 fold down tongue (material cost) vs the cost of a swing away.

Sierra Tango II
12-04-2012, 07:56 PM
And in between the freezing evenings, I hit it with a little spray paint and looks sharp!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0421.jpg

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that's it for now!

I love the way you welded on those casters on the back. Hows that working out for you? I need to do something as well as the approach to my driveway is just a little to steep. What are those wheels rated at and where did you get them?

mikeg205
12-04-2012, 08:45 PM
thanks for the fold down idea... i'll check out some welders in the area...

milkmania
12-04-2012, 10:48 PM
I love the way you welded on those casters on the back. Hows that working out for you? I need to do something as well as the approach to my driveway is just a little to steep. What are those wheels rated at and where did you get them?

not sure about the wheels, but those welded plates look like U-Bolt plates....
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Suspension/TruRyde/TRTP300209.html

thatsmrmastercraft
12-04-2012, 10:49 PM
not sure about the wheels, but those welded plates look like U-Bolt plates....
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Suspension/TruRyde/TRTP300209.html

Good eye.

mikeg205
12-04-2012, 11:22 PM
This is priority #1 once we get our boat out of storage in the spring! Know any good welders in our area?

Got a reference for a trailer guy by us...

Traxx said

Best trailer guy in the world at four acres in Bolingbrook. U will be mire than impressed. Ask for Jessie.

630.739.6148

Ski-me
12-05-2012, 11:33 AM
not sure about the wheels, but those welded plates look like U-Bolt plates....
http://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Suspension/TruRyde/TRTP300209.html

Yep, that's what they used. When I originally bought the skid wheels, it came with a plate....but I left that on the single axle trailer when I swapped. Luckily, the u-bolt plate looked pretty dang close so we went for it. We also used 2-1/2" x 2-1/2" square tubing.

Works great! The whole weight of the boat is on those wheels for just a few feet while going into our driveway. AND...no marks on our concrete so huge bonus!

SP Maristar
12-05-2012, 12:09 PM
What are your plans for the fenders? Repair, locate used, SS new?

Ski-me
12-05-2012, 12:31 PM
What are your plans for the fenders? Repair, locate used, SS new?

In the spring, I plan on just doing the fiberglass repair myself. After doing it on my last trailer, it really isn't that hard and turned out great! Sure, one fender was a lot heavier than the other due to my "extra amount" of fiberglass, but in my mind, it only beefs it up more! :cool:

Here is the thread on the fiberglass work last time.....

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=35541

dfmaus
12-05-2012, 12:40 PM
Ski-me - did you just spray over the existing rust or brush it off, prime and then spray? I need to do some touch up on mine and wondering how much prep work I need to do first. The rust is spotty - not nearly as much as you had.

[QUOTE=Ski-me;893149]Paint I used....

SP Maristar
12-05-2012, 12:43 PM
In the spring, I plan on just doing the fiberglass repair myself. After doing it on my last trailer, it really isn't that hard and turned out great! Sure, one fender was a lot heavier than the other due to my "extra amount" of fiberglass, but in my mind, it only beefs it up more! :cool:

Here is the thread on the fiberglass work last time.....

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=35541

Very nice. Thanks for the link to your previous post. I was wondering what people do when one of their Marathons takes out a fender. I will be replacing our 14 year old (Gaaa!)Marathons in the spring, and wasn't looking forward to losing our tandem OEM stock fenders in case of a blowout.

Ski-me
12-05-2012, 01:26 PM
Ski-me - did you just spray over the existing rust or brush it off, prime and then spray? I need to do some touch up on mine and wondering how much prep work I need to do first. The rust is spotty - not nearly as much as you had.

[QUOTE=Ski-me;893149]Paint I used....

No prep work at all.....just sprayed it with a can anywhere I could hit it. This is not a long term solution but it cleaned it up a bit for now. I asked the Lowes guy what was a good paint that had some rust on it and he recommended the one I used in the thread.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 02:17 PM
Very nice. Thanks for the link to your previous post. I was wondering what people do when one of their Marathons takes out a fender. I will be replacing our 14 year old (Gaaa!)Marathons in the spring, and wasn't looking forward to losing our tandem OEM stock fenders in case of a blowout.

14 year old tires:eek3::eek3::eek3:

Those Marathons were probably made before the quality issues started. Still, 14 years is a heck of a long time. How much tread is left? How do the sidewalls look? Was this trailer garaged?

SP Maristar
12-05-2012, 02:30 PM
14 year old tires:eek3::eek3::eek3:

Those Marathons were probably made before the quality issues started. Still, 14 years is a heck of a long time. How much tread is left? How do the sidewalls look? Was this trailer garaged?

I know. Trailer was always garaged by PO. Tires look perfect. Side walls great, tread still looks new. Ite kills me to replace what appear to be perfect tires, but with all the bad press on TT for the Marathons, and the 5 year rule of thumb, I am still planning on replacing. Funny, my parked outside daily driver with 5 year old Michelins with 40K on them look terrible on the sidewall. Cracking everywhere.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 02:37 PM
I know. Trailer was always garaged by PO. Tires look perfect. Side walls great, tread still looks new. Ite kills me to replace what appear to be perfect tires, but with all the bad press on TT for the Marathons, and the 5 year rule of thumb, I am still planning on replacing. Funny, my parked outside daily driver with 5 year old Michelins with 40K on them look terrible on the sidewall. Cracking everywhere.

The sun really works over the tires. That's why the RV guys all have tire covers since they seldom wear out the tread on their tires. A guy should really do that for any trailer which sits outside.

Rockman
12-05-2012, 02:50 PM
Got a reference for a trailer guy by us...

Traxx said

Best trailer guy in the world at four acres in Bolingbrook. U will be mire than impressed. Ask for Jessie.

630.739.6148



So when are we putting our orders in!? :D

mikeg205
12-05-2012, 03:01 PM
So when are we putting our orders in!? :D


when the wallet fills up a tad more...lol...:D:D:D

mcparadise
12-05-2012, 03:05 PM
The sun really works over the tires. That's why the RV guys all have tire covers since they seldom wear out the tread on their tires. A guy should really do that for any trailer which sits outside.

I didn't even think of using tire covers to protect against UV damage. On the list! Thanks.

Rockman
12-05-2012, 03:11 PM
when the wallet fills up a tad more...lol...:D:D:D

I hear saw...switching my beer intake from bottle to can so I can recycle and get some extra money! ;)

mikeg205
12-05-2012, 03:17 PM
I hear saw...switching my beer intake from bottle to can so I can recycle and get some extra money! ;)

We should switch to keg to get a volume discount...but then we may not get any work done...and deep water slalom and barefoot might get tough.. :D :D :D

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 04:37 PM
I didn't even think of using tire covers to protect against UV damage. On the list! Thanks.

No problem.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 04:38 PM
I hear saw...switching my beer intake from bottle to can so I can recycle and get some extra money! ;)

A tall kitchen garbage bag full of crushed cans is worth about $6. :toast:

milkmania
12-05-2012, 04:41 PM
A tall kitchen garbage bag full of crushed cans is worth about $6. :toast:


depending on the economy at the moment:rolleyes:

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 04:46 PM
depending on the economy at the moment:rolleyes:

You are correct sir. I last tested this a couple weeks ago with 7 bags.

Rockman
12-05-2012, 07:21 PM
We should switch to keg to get a volume discount...but then we may not get any work done...and deep water slalom and barefoot might get tough.. :D :D :D

I know...the wetsuit fit a bit snug this summer....felt like I was pushing maximum density.:D

Rockman
12-05-2012, 07:22 PM
A tall kitchen garbage bag full of crushed cans is worth about $6. :toast:

I am now...a man with a plan...maybe I will be like Kramer and save all my plastic bottles too! MI is just a hop, skip and jump from the house! :steering:

mikeg205
12-05-2012, 07:35 PM
I am now...a man with a plan...maybe I will be like Kramer and save all my plastic bottles too! MI is just a hop, skip and jump from the house! :steering:

You could sell the custom deck JD tiki torches... for $75 each to cover the JD and the brackets.. :) production would be fun...oh what to do with all that jack... ;)

thatsmrmastercraft
12-05-2012, 11:13 PM
I am now...a man with a plan...maybe I will be like Kramer and save all my plastic bottles too! MI is just a hop, skip and jump from the house! :steering:

Mother's Day isn't that far off, otherwise the numbers don't crunch. :rolleyes:

Phntmski
12-06-2012, 06:44 PM
No, different from what I can tell.

I got it from California Trailer Works..... it was cheaper overall and CTW had the swing tongue I wanted (PT did not).

Haven't installed the brakes yet so don't know the ins and outs. :o

The Vault is a UFP system for lubing bearings. Ut uses a hybrid lube that basically turns to oil bath when it heats up going down the road and gels up when cooled down. Supposed to be very low naintenance. CTW sells it as well. Did you go with that and why or why not?

Write up from CTW web site:

The new "Vault" Hybrid Lubrication System. This new system uses a hybrid oil that adjusts to temperature, and is under pressure in the hub. Warranted for 5 years. No Maintenance! No sight glass for inspection. Custom wheel covers are OK, no access to the oil is necessary. An extended warranty is available from UFP covering the Vault for a full ten years! See www.ufpnet.com for full details on the "Vault".

Ski-me
12-06-2012, 07:06 PM
The Vault is a UFP system for lubing bearings. Ut uses a hybrid lube that basically turns to oil bath when it heats up going down the road and gels up when cooled down. Supposed to be very low naintenance. CTW sells it as well. Did you go with that and why or why not?

Write up from CTW web site:

The new "Vault" Hybrid Lubrication System. This new system uses a hybrid oil that adjusts to temperature, and is under pressure in the hub. Warranted for 5 years. No Maintenance! No sight glass for inspection. Custom wheel covers are OK, no access to the oil is necessary. An extended warranty is available from UFP covering the Vault for a full ten years! See www.ufpnet.com for full details on the "Vault".

I wasn't aware of the "vault" type hub but after looking at it on CTW website, it looks like they are being used for "torsion type" trailer axles. :confused: I did not see anything for my era of trailer using the vault system.

I probably still wouldn't of bought them if the price was different. I'm not worried too much with 4 wheels now on a lighter boat (94' 205). Heck, my 3/4 suburban does a very decent job stopping the boat as-is (with no brakes). Having disc is pretty much a bonus for me really.

Just getting new bearings, hubs and calipers gives me a lot more piece of mind....:cool:

Ski-me
12-21-2012, 07:46 PM
Did a little shopping at Discount Tire and asked if they could get these rims.....well, after a few calls, no problem. A few weeks later I got enough scrounged up to place the order. It just so happened that, that day, they were offering a $100 rebate! Sweet!

So, here they are! An early Christmas present!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_14-37-27_605.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_14-37-36_507.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_14-46-46_818.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_15-02-02_804.jpg

Ski-me
12-21-2012, 07:48 PM
The old rims are now going for sale on Craigslist.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_15-10-28_152.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_15-10-39_284.jpg

Rockman
12-21-2012, 09:13 PM
Nice rims!

Did you get new tires also or were your old ones still good?

Greenster
12-21-2012, 09:16 PM
Luv your new rims.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-21-2012, 10:20 PM
Those wheels look fantastic! What tires are you running?

Rockman
12-21-2012, 10:22 PM
The old rims are now going for sale on Craigslist.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_15-10-28_152.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/2012-12-21_15-10-39_284.jpg

No they aren't...:D

Ski-me
12-22-2012, 12:10 AM
I stuck with the same tires as they were still in decent shape. Feel lucky there at least!

The previous owner just put on two new ones and the other two were still ok. I don't know the brand names off hand though. Two different kinds though.

Tire shop liked them too!

thatsmrmastercraft
12-22-2012, 02:42 AM
I stuck with the same tires as they were still in decent shape. Feel lucky there at least!

The previous owner just put on two new ones and the other two were still ok. I don't know the brand names off hand though. Two different kinds though.

Tire shop liked them too!

Sounds like you are good to go.

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 11:18 AM
FINALLY, a little sun and a warm day (on the weekend)! :D

Decided to take on the new brakes and new bearings.

I swung by a local boat shop to get some new bearing buddies and to also see if any of the ones on my boat cold be re-used. And after his review, I could probably use at least two of them.

So away I went on the rebuild. The old bearing grease was dripping out and black. A few of the wheels made some rattling sounds when I spun them so I think overall, the timing was good. :rolleyes:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0141_zps61070e0a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0142_zps3f96a833.jpg

A light tap on the sides of the bearing buddy released it. I just tapped while turning the wheel but I guess you could also just tap enough to get a gap on the back side and then use a screwdriver to pry it off.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0145_zpsc61becad.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0144_zps3386649a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0143_zps04be9225.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0146_zps9c9d50ab.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0147_zps6a8dc9a1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0148_zps46395826.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0149_zpsc931d0a1.jpg

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 11:22 AM
Hubs and parts pretty rusted up and the brake piston/actuator has seen better days. :o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0150_zps6f944323.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0152_zpse4a5f4ee.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0154_zps46e85434.jpg

Test fit:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0156_zpsae8dd015.jpg

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 11:30 AM
Packed the bearings with Mobil 1 Synthetic grease.....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0157_zpsc9ab9305.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0158_zps6f4a2d9d.jpg

started the seal:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0159_zps953d04e9.jpg

Then used a hole saw to drive it on evenly and flush:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0160_zpse2cec110.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0161_zpsa88cd13e.jpg

Clean and grease up the spindle shaft:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0162_zps1f8d8cad.jpg

place the rotor and caliper on together:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0165_zpsc2117440.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0166_zps1c11e957.jpg

The bolts I received did have some loctite stuff on it already but after screwing in and removing, some of it came off. Also, I had to torque the calipers on to 55 ft-lbs but before I got there, the lock washers spread open. I backed those off and re-use the old lock washers and everything worked much better. I did put some red locktite on each bolt though.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0167_zpsb5cec628.jpg

Installed the new bearings and new bearing buddies:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0168_zpsfde9d585.jpg

Final product:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0169_zpsc67cd9e0.jpg

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 11:31 AM
Next up, some new brake lines.

The old ones just don't look too good......

I'll do that another weekend.

Footin
02-17-2013, 12:11 PM
Ok, maybe a dumb question....I have a 94 single axle and would like to put on the same disc brake set up, do I need to change the actuator assembly? Or can I use the stock one?

Rockman
02-17-2013, 12:20 PM
Ok, maybe a dumb question....I have a 94 single axle and would like to put on the same disc brake set up, do I need to change the actuator assembly? Or can I use the stock one?

I think Jeff bought a new actuator for the change to disk. It has a round cylinder at the end of it...

Not sure if I am going to take on this project this year or not...need to see how bad the brakes are once we get the boat bad from storage...

Rockman
02-17-2013, 12:21 PM
Next up, some new brake lines.

The old ones just don't look too good......

I'll do that another weekend.

Jeff, awesome job! How long did it take you to do one side?

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 12:43 PM
Jeff, awesome job! How long did it take you to do one side?

I took my time because it was so nice but probably about 3 hrs for whole job. I did re-build two of the bearing buddies so that took about 30 minutes or so. Not bad but just cleaning off the grease real good.

Ski-me
02-17-2013, 12:44 PM
Ok, maybe a dumb question....I have a 94 single axle and would like to put on the same disc brake set up, do I need to change the actuator assembly? Or can I use the stock one?

I think the disc requires higher pressure so the actuator would need to be changed.

psychobilly
02-17-2013, 08:04 PM
Now to just place an order to Ultimate Bunk Boards dot com and replace dem bunks with some UBBs.

Sweet trailer man!

FrankSchwab
02-17-2013, 10:09 PM
I think the disc requires higher pressure so the actuator would need to be changed.

That's the way I understand - Disks require higher pressure, but lower volume, so the master cylinders aren't interchangeable. However, I don't think you need to change the whole actuator; the master cylinder should be sufficient.

bsloop
02-18-2013, 10:46 AM
If the brake lines were bad and you are concerned with rust, I would not hook up the lines yet.
There is a good chance rust and crap will be pumped into the new brakes. Just leave the caps on the caliper nipples.

Use Stainless lines. They are not that much more expensive than steel, dont rust and are less prone to kink while bending.

Ski-me
02-18-2013, 11:03 AM
Yea, I ended up just clipping off the old break lines for now. With a new actuator and new calipers, I don't really want to use the old lines. Here is what I'm thinking right now ($91.75):

https://caltrailerworks.com/online/product.php?productid=1020

Sodar
02-18-2013, 12:45 PM
Look into using the pre-fabbed plastic brake line. You can build a kit for approximately the same price and they will never corrode and are quieter in the box frame than the metal brake line.

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/THERMO-PLASTIC-Flexibile-Trailer-Brake-Line-228/

mikeg205
02-18-2013, 01:06 PM
Look into using the pre-fabbed plastic brake line. You can build a kit for approximately the same price and they will never corrode and are quieter in the box frame than the metal brake line.

http://www.pacifictrailers.com/THERMO-PLASTIC-Flexibile-Trailer-Brake-Line-228/

I added this 2 years ago.... works great.

Ski-me
02-18-2013, 01:16 PM
Those look pretty interesting. I never did like all the rattling on the outside of the tubing. Can I get those into the axle tubes to cross over to the other axle calipers or do they still need to be on the outside? The main line I pulled out was surrounded by some type of foam covering. Probably kept things more quite but also trapped in moisture longer.....so the plastic line seems like a good option.

Either of you two have any pics of your install?

Sodar
02-18-2013, 01:23 PM
I still ran hard lines outside the axle tubes to the outboard calibers. I never thought of running them inside, but I guess it would be doable.

mikeg205
02-18-2013, 01:28 PM
I still ran hard lines outside the axle tubes to the outboard calibers. I never thought of running them inside, but I guess it would be doable.

I did not change those...they did not rust out. It was the internal one from actuator to coupler that I changed. From coupler to drums (in my case) line was still good.

I have the parts in the kit I bought waiting to be installed.

Ski-me
02-18-2013, 01:49 PM
I have the parts in the kit I bought waiting to be installed.

Don't we all....:) I bought those brakes in November and finally found a nice weekend to install (58 on Saturday). Woke up this morning to an inch of snow.....:rolleyes:

I'll have to look at it more closely to see if a route inside tube is doable. If not, I'll stick with the outside at least for the axle crossings.

Lumbergh
02-18-2013, 04:05 PM
Should sticky this, great detailed writeup on doing wheel bearings and brakes.

Table Rocker
02-18-2013, 04:32 PM
Yes, this is a great thread with tons of good pics. Job well done!

mikeg205
02-18-2013, 06:57 PM
Should sticky this, great detailed writeup on doing wheel bearings and brakes.

stickied... ;)

Ski-me
03-05-2013, 11:22 AM
OK, I've looked into new lines and it seems to be a slippery slope. I'm good with the mainline being the Thermo-Plastic....that's a pretty easy decision. However, I need only about 12-13' instead of the 19'. Is the Thermo Plastic bendable enough to double up inside the frame rail?? I don't want to pinch it.

What I thought would be easy was to just use Stainless Steel for the rest of the system. What I've found is that the SS is harder/more brittle than the standard coated steel and the flaring is different. If I went SS, I would most likely get a spool of it and then cut/flare as needed.

The standard tubing flares at 45 degrees and actually double backs onto itself for the lip.

Whereas the SS tubing is at 37 degrees and an extra backing sleeve needs to be added as part of the connection. On top of that, the two can't be intermixed as they won't seal properly.

Finally, I can't use the nice, CHEAP tube benders and flaring tools from the local auto parts store for the SS tubing. I'll need the nicer equipment to do a proper flare.

With all that said, it looks like my only option is the Thermo Plastic main and then the coated steel. Unless I'm missing something. :confused:

Sodar
03-05-2013, 11:33 AM
I guess you could go all stainless.... http://www.trailerandtruckparts.com/20-Tandem-Axle-Brake-Line-Kit_p_1201.html#.UTYQudbjzh4

bsloop
03-05-2013, 11:59 AM
OK, I've looked into new lines and it seems to be a slippery slope. I'm good with the mainline being the Thermo-Plastic....that's a pretty easy decision. However, I need only about 12-13' instead of the 19'. Is the Thermo Plastic bendable enough to double up inside the frame rail?? I don't want to pinch it.

What I thought would be easy was to just use Stainless Steel for the rest of the system. What I've found is that the SS is harder/more brittle than the standard coated steel and the flaring is different. If I went SS, I would most likely get a spool of it and then cut/flare as needed.

Finally, I can't use the nice, CHEAP tube benders and flaring tools from the local auto parts store for the SS tubing. I'll need the nicer equipment to do a proper flare.

With all that said, it looks like my only option is the Thermo Plastic main and then the coated steel. Unless I'm missing something. :confused:

Look around, there are SS main line trailer kits less than 20'.
I found this Champion 16' kit in less than 30sec google search - http://www.championtrailers.com/brkparts.html

From my understanding, SS is MORE forgiving than steel; less likely to kink. I was gentle with my bends and had no problem. Any round item can be used as a temporary mandrel. Used a tennis ball and hammer handle as I recall.

Ski-me
03-05-2013, 12:09 PM
If I get a kit, all of the flaring issues would be gone so the only other thing is bending.

bsloop, if you've worked with the SS is it OK on the bending and can I just use a simple $10 tube bender from Autozone, or do I need something more specialized?

And your link confirmed my flaring discovery on SS lines:

STAINLESS STEEL
BRAKELINE TUBING
CANNOT BE CUT
AND REFLARED
IN THE FIELD

BRAKE LINE TUBING
REQUIRES A DOUBLE FLARE
PROCESS TO COMPLY WITH
D.O.T. REQUIREMENTS, AND STAINLESS STEEL
TUBING REQUIRES SPECIAL TOOLING TO ACCOMPLISH THIS.

bsloop
03-06-2013, 11:11 AM
I cant say I am an expert tube bender or have extensive experience. Just did some reading before doing a full actuator, lines and dual disc conversion on my tandem trailer a couple years ago.

I took it easy and had no problem hand bending. I have never used a tube bender so I dont know if there is any difference. I just keep the pressure dispersed.

thatsmrmastercraft
03-06-2013, 11:20 AM
Cheap tube benders are simple to use and help keep you from kinking the line. Worth the few bucks in my mind. The bends are more uniform looking for those with MCOCD.:rolleyes:

Ski-me
03-06-2013, 01:00 PM
I just called Pacific Trailers and placed my order on a dual axle SS kit. I asked if they could swap out the 19' SS mainline for the 19' Thermo Plastic one and he said "he thinks it's OK". $126 for whole package so hopefully his boss doesn't have a problem with it...... :)

Ski-me
03-31-2013, 11:37 AM
Well, after several calls to finally get the order placed, the parts finally showed up. :rolleyes: Let's just say, keep the order simple and do it online, if possible. Because I wanted to swap out the SS mainline for the Poly line, I had to talk to someone in person. After providing my card once (and then he lost it), I called back and had to provide it again. :( Not a good feeling.

Anyways, I received everything and it was kinda a mixed bag.

I would of thought some of pieces would be the same length but the two long ones (for the axle were different lengths). I just had to be a little creative on the layout.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0001_zpsa5d6c36c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0002_zps02d385b5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0003_zpse5f048de.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0004_zpsce4e6ce7.jpg

Ski-me
03-31-2013, 11:43 AM
I also decided to re-wire the lights as well. I really like having a separate ground run to each light as well as a frame connection. That way I have a lot better chance of not getting a some flickering light while driving down the road (that annoys me so much!)

However, to do this, I did have to get an extra set of trailering wire to run down each frame channel.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0005_zps2b94a251.jpg

After running the new mainline, here is how much I had left over in the tongue. I stuff it in with some zip ties.....

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Ski-me
03-31-2013, 11:46 AM
The tube bender worked "pretty good" but found that just doing it by hand also works well. Definitely a learning process....:o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0009_zps61179530.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0010_zps79978073.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0013_zps02c2b245.jpg

The final tongue connection:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0014_zpsfabaff52.jpg

Re-did the plug with a new, 7 plug prong:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0015_zps647cf11e.jpg

Ski-me
03-31-2013, 11:48 AM
LED's installed all the way around:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0016_zpsff5b0cae.jpg

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88 PS190
03-31-2013, 11:53 AM
Looks very nice!

I have a boat sitting on a galvo trailer that needs some tune up, but another option is trying to buy a double like that.

I like smaller tow rigs and a nice controlled double axle with brakes is definately on the list to have.

thatsmrmastercraft
03-31-2013, 12:20 PM
Well, after several calls to finally get the order placed, the parts finally showed up. :rolleyes: Let's just say keep the order simple and do it online if possible. Because I wanted to swap out the SS mainline for the Poly line, I had to talk to someone in person. After providing my card once (and then he lost it), I called back and had to provide it again. :( Not a good feeling.

Anyways, I received everything and it was kinda a mixed bag.

I would of thought some of pieces would be the same length but the two long ones (for the axle were different lengths). I just had to be a little creative on the layout.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0001_zpsa5d6c36c.jpg

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As a guy operating a my own business, I deal with credit cards often. As soon as I process the order, I destroy the CC number. On the rare occasion, I have to call back for the number again if there was a processing issue or if I fat-fingered the number. I rather err on the side of customer safety and would hope that your order was handled in the same manner.

Nice work on the trailer. :toast:

Rockman
03-31-2013, 01:42 PM
Nice work Jeff!

Ski-me
03-31-2013, 07:06 PM
As a guy operating a my own business, I deal with credit cards often. As soon as I process the order, I destroy the CC number. On the rare occasion, I have to call back for the number again if there was a processing issue or if I fat-fingered the number. I rather err on the side of customer safety and would hope that your order was handled in the same manner.

Nice work on the trailer. :toast:

Ummm, yea. I didn't like to hear after a few days to call back and hear the guy say "he probably lost it so could he get it again". And, if fact, I gave him two cards.....one was a $100 rebate card I wanted to use up and the remaining on my standard, debit card. He lost both numbers. THAT, I didn't like at all.....

He eventually couldn't even get the rebate card to work so I decided to go ahead and get the 4 LED tail lights from SkiDim. Of course, that worked without a hitch and saw it a few days later.

With Pacific Trailer, it literally took a week and a half to get the order placed. I called so many times the guy felt bad and overnighted the parts to me (however when I saw it I didn't see the "free" shipping charge anymore. Saw an additional $14 or so). :rolleyes:

Just in time for the snow storm last weekend.

thatsmrmastercraft
03-31-2013, 08:23 PM
Ummm, yea. I didn't like to hear after a few days to call back and hear the guy say "he probably lost it so could he get it again". And, if fact, I gave him two cards.....one was a $100 rebate card I wanted to use up and the remaining on my standard, debit card. He lost both numbers. THAT, I didn't like at all.....

He eventually couldn't even get the rebate card to work so I decided to go ahead and get the 4 LED tail lights from SkiDim. Of course, that worked without a hitch and saw it a few days later.

With Pacific Trailer, it literally took a week and a half to get the order placed. I called so many times the guy felt bad and overnighted the parts to me (however when I saw it I didn't see the "free" shipping charge anymore. Saw an additional $14 or so). :rolleyes:

Just in time for the snow storm last weekend.

Wow, what an ordeal. I understand your concern.http://www.7thgenhonda.com/forum/images/smilies/ugh.gif

Ski-me
04-22-2013, 10:55 AM
OK, update. I got everything on and last weekend tried to bleed the brakes. After loading it up with the synthetic brake fluid and worked the actuator a few times I start to bleed everything. Well, after inspection, it appears that almost all of the connections are leaking!!:mad:

Everything was sinched pretty good I thought, but I guess not good enough.

I then went around and tightened down the leaking connections quite a bit....almost more than I should and the majority of them stopped.

I ran the trailer around town and they all seemed to work. Yeah. :)

Well, I picked up the trailer this weekend and what do I find, a nice big puddle next to the rear wheel! :mad: So I guess the connections are still not tight enough!!

What am I doing wrong?!? Is it the stainless steel brake lines being a harder material and require a larger, initial clamping to seat them?!? I just don't know and it's frustrating....

Kyle
04-22-2013, 11:29 AM
Your problem is the fact your boat prefers a single axle and its telling you to meet me and trade trailers...... :D




Who flared the stainless fittings. Iirc they should be double flared. Make sure that mate real nice.

Where are we leaking. At the calipers (I noticed you went with discs) or at all fittings. Can you tell what side of the fitting is leaking.

If the mating flange fittings fit nice then slightly over snug should be all you need. Nothing like cranking down on it like you never want it to come free. Use a line wrench and try tightening up a little more.

thatsmrmastercraft
04-22-2013, 11:39 AM
Your problem is the fact your boat prefers a single axle and its telling you to meet me and trade trailers...... :D




Who flared the stainless fittings. Iirc they should be double flared. Make sure that mate real nice.

Where are we leaking. At the calipers (I noticed you went with discs) or at all fittings. Can you tell what side of the fitting is leaking.

If the mating flange fittings fit nice then slightly over snug should be all you need. Nothing like cranking down on it like you never want it to come free.

It goes against everything my brain tells me about double-flaring all brake lines, but I'm not sure about double-flaring stainless steel brake lines. I looked at a couple sites and got no consensus. I have never dealt with stainless brake lines.

Kyle
04-22-2013, 11:59 AM
http://www.ehow.com/facts_8068798_single-double-flare-brake-line.html#page=0

I double flared my SS brake line and it never has leaked. I also bent and flared all fittings.

Single flare is rarely used in brake line.

Jeff make sure that the mating surfaces are the same angles and fit nice. Not kinda nice or close enough.

Ski-me
04-22-2013, 12:05 PM
I think it's got to be the stainless steel and being tempermental.....I guess. The Poly line at the actuator and the Tee is just fine and no leaks. They were tightened to just "snug", nothing more.

Through my research, the SS is flared at a different angle than the standard lines. But I did read that the SS needs to really be done at the "factory" or manufacturer. Basically a little more involve to get the correct flare.

Because all of the fluid drained out of the system already, I'm going to loosen up each of those connections and see what each end looks like (Tee and tubing). Maybe it will tell me a story better if I visually look at it. :confused:

I just thought with everything new, it would come together perfectly. Too high of hopes I guess.

Ski-me
04-22-2013, 12:08 PM
http://www.ehow.com/facts_8068798_single-double-flare-brake-line.html#page=0

I double flared my SS brake line and it never has leaked. I also bent and flared all fittings.

Single flare is rarely used in brake line.

Jeff make sure that the mating surfaces are the same angles and fit nice. Not kinda nice or close enough.

Kyle, so you have actually worked with stainless steel then, huh? Was there any issue with the ends splitting? Through my research it sounded like the SS was more brittle and could crack with a double flaring tool in the field.

Could there be a difference in the Tee fittings for the SS vs. standard? Or would the tee be compatible for both??

Kyle, what tool did you use for flaring?

Kyle
04-22-2013, 12:15 PM
The angles have to be the same.

"Factory" flaring is hog wash.

It looks like you have way too much SS anyway.

Personally I would go rent a flare tool from the parts store. Then cut all SS lines with a tubing cutter and flare it to the mating end of the flexible line. It doesn't matter what angle you use as long as they are the same.



When I double flared mine it was the first time ever flaring.

Kyle
04-22-2013, 12:18 PM
The SS will break or crack if you try to over flare it and any line would do that.

It was easy and very fast. I rented the tool from auto zone or orielly's

Ski-me
04-22-2013, 01:05 PM
OK, thanks Kyle. I'll check out O'Reilys and get a flaring tool. I'll inspect first but plan to just re-flare everything. I did re-do the line going from the front axle to the rear axle. That was my first tube that I bent and thought zig-zags would look the best.....I don't think so now.

It looks a lot more clean now.

Appreciate the help Kyle and so sorry I can't trade you. 8p You are a very patient man and finding that double axle is just that, patience!!

On another note, we were in Dallas a few weeks ago and visited TCU for my daughter in Ft Worth.....my wife wants to move there! She's so tired of this cold, windy weather! And I will say, nice little town you got there....

Kyle
04-22-2013, 01:16 PM
OK, thanks Kyle. I'll check out O'Reilys and get a flaring tool. I'll inspect first but plan to just re-flare everything. I did re-do the line going from the front axle to the rear axle. That was my first tube that I bent and thought zig-zags would look the best.....I don't think so now.

It looks a lot more clean now.

Appreciate the help Kyle and so sorry I can't trade you. 8p You are a very patient man and finding that double axle is just that, patience!!

On another note, we were in Dallas a few weeks ago and visited TCU for my daughter in Ft Worth.....my wife wants to move there! She's so tired of this cold, windy weather! And I will say, nice little town you got there....


It is a nice town. I live 7 min from TCU. My sisters went to TCU as well as my bro n law. We go to every home football game and have tail gate spots.

Fort Worth is a great town.

If you guys move down let me know.

Rat, Tex, taymc197, phntmski, jd6, travisx9, and a few others ski with me. Check out Metroplexskiclub.com it's super cheap like $180 for the year for single and its slightly more for a family but we have a course and a very cool family of skiers.

There are also a few public lakes around that we hit up. I can assure you that finding a ski ride will be easy.


Even if you don't move down and are back on the area we can still go tear up a course.

Ski-me
04-27-2013, 10:46 AM
The tube bender worked "pretty good" but found that just doing it by hand also works well. Definitely a learning process....:o

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/IMG_0009_zps61179530.jpg

OK, I was watching Stacy David's video installing some disc brakes on on old, C10 Chevy truck. One thing he mentioned was that the caliper needs to move and hence, he installed a rubber hose.

My question, do I need a "second" rubber hose from the tee to the caliper to allow for float??

Or is this hard line acceptable? I know the axle moves up and down so that hose is obviously OK, but I'm wondering if I need another one for each caliper too. :confused:

I'm getting some flaring tools and will try and re-do some of the ends. Hopefully that will fix the leaks! 68 degrees today......finally!!

Ski-me
04-29-2013, 08:52 PM
Well, fortunately I remembered my friend has a 2000 205 with dual axle disc brake system so I swung buy to look at his trailer. After review, I'm OK with my routing so that was a relief.

I'll post the pics up once they upload.....

Edit: Here is his trailer from the factory :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/photobucket-19911-1367279755875_zps57e1026c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nielson2020/media/photobucket-19911-1367279755875_zps57e1026c.jpg.html)

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Ski-me
04-29-2013, 08:59 PM
So I decided to re-flare all the lines. Pretty simple really.

The one on the left is the SS one I received, the one on the right, one of my re-flared ends.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0027_zpsb27de92c.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nielson2020/media/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0027_zpsb27de92c.jpg.html)

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Cut off the end with a typical copper tubing cutter from Home Depot

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It leaves a little rough end so need to clean it up

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And then flare the end:

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Completed flare:

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Ski-me
04-29-2013, 09:03 PM
Now, after all that fun I look at the fittings, tees, etc and notice why they were leaking. When I first ran the SS lines, I think the flaring angles are different. So, when they leaked I tightened them up. I think I cranked them down so much, it ended up crushing the bevel inside the fittings...again, because I think the fittings were different angles, or at least different ends.

The one on the right is the crushed one, the left is an undamaged one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v69/nielson2020/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0041_zpsb2517efd.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/nielson2020/media/Mastercraft%20205%201994/Double%20Axle%20Trailer/DSC_0041_zpsb2517efd.jpg.html)

Ski-me
04-29-2013, 09:06 PM
So after all that fun, I decided to just re-do it all.....what the heck!

I ran to Autozone and got brand new coated lines with equal lengths now for each axle. All new fittings and tees and re-did everything. I just want to eliminate any unknowns and for $28 in new lines with the "correct" ends, it was worth it.

I am still waiting for the 4 fittings that go onto the caliper but everything else is done and I will say, it looks a lot better too. Once I get the caliper fittings, I'll post the final shots and hopefully, nothing will leak!

Man what an ordeal!!

Ski-me
05-04-2013, 01:26 PM
So I got the new caliper fittings in the mail yesterday and replaced the old ones. Sure enough, everything now works! My daughter and I went for a test drive going about 40 MPH on a downhill arterial and jammed on the brakes. It felt very solid and at the end of the stop, the rear trailer wheels locked up and we saw some sweet smoke! Definitely better and general driving is great now.

I just finished up cleaning everything up on the routing and securing. I drilled out the rivets and then tapped them to 1/2" and then secured with new SS screws.

Overall Success! :)

So, my conclusion/lesson learned from all this......just stick with normal, auto parts store lines and use the fittings from the brake rotor/caliper supplier. I also recommend the poly line as the main run from actuator to the first tee of the system by the axles.

Completed work.....

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atlfootr
07-28-2013, 09:01 AM
Ski me how in the world did you persuade these guys to swap out a single axle for a double? Very nice tow rig ...

Rockman
07-28-2013, 09:47 AM
Ski me how in the world did you persuade these guys to swap out a single axle for a double? Very nice tow rig ...

Most likley condition.

Ski-me
07-28-2013, 11:50 AM
Most likley condition.

Yea, condition. My single had all new brakes, wheels, tires and the frame powdercoated. I had also rewired everything with new led lights. Oh, and they were going to sell anyways...... Just got lucky!

Just got back from our Idaho trip.....2400 miles and it ran perfect!

Ski-me
08-22-2013, 05:02 PM
After a little back and forth with eTrailer, I finally got my Fulton F2 Single wheel Jack. I will say, that the wheel was a little bigger than I thought, but once it's on, I'm sure it will be just fine.

Just got the trailer back with the plate now welded. Because the "weld on" plate was cast, the guy pre-heated the plate before welding to the frame. He also staggered it just a bit so he would be welding on top of an old weld. Looks pretty good!

Ski-me
08-24-2013, 10:28 AM
And the final installed product.....

I like it! :)