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milkmania
11-26-2012, 05:47 PM
it's that time again.....
Baseball training season!!!!!

looking for best prices on Nokona gloves, anybody know of any good deals?

found the one below in most places $209.99

www.sportsdepot.com/nokonawalnut.html#amg600wcw (http://www.sportsdepot.com/nokonawalnut.html#amg600wcw)

mikeg205
11-26-2012, 07:18 PM
dang - every sport is expensive... ;)

milkmania
11-26-2012, 08:07 PM
dang - every sport is expensive... ;)

gotta have the tools to play the game :)

actually, I accidentally print screened a softball glove:o

tex
11-26-2012, 08:09 PM
it's that time again.....
Baseball training season!!!!!

looking for best prices on Nokona gloves, anybody know of any good deals?

found the one below in most places $209.99

www.sportsdepot.com/nokonawalnut.html#amg600wcw (http://www.sportsdepot.com/nokonawalnut.html#amg600wcw)

Wow....What do the charge for a cup?

mikeg205
11-26-2012, 08:11 PM
about $5.99...sorry couldn't resist tex... ;)

milkmania
11-26-2012, 08:13 PM
Wow....What do the charge for a cup?

no clue http://deephousepage.com/smilies/nixweiss.gif


but cups are probably made in China, while Nocona's are made in USAhttp://deephousepage.com/smilies/usa.gif

tex
11-26-2012, 08:14 PM
about $5.99...sorry couldn't resist tex... ;)

Mine are worth more than $5.99!

mikeg205
11-26-2012, 08:15 PM
:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhammeMine are worth more than $5.99!

mustangtexas
11-26-2012, 11:15 PM
Based on another thread you could get your glove at Harbor Freight and save a bunch of money. Heck, it'll last at least a game and a half.

bstewart0529
11-26-2012, 11:22 PM
Wilson A2000 is the only way to go. 11.25 inches. Believe me it will be the best $219 you will ever spend. Bought my son one, best glove he has owned this far.

bbymgr
11-26-2012, 11:43 PM
Wilson A2000 is the only way to go. 11.25 inches. Believe me it will be the best $219 you will ever spend. Bought my son one, best glove he has owned this far.

X2.....A2000 is a great glove.

stuartmcnair
11-27-2012, 06:37 PM
A2000 is what I played with (technically an A2002 since I am a lefty). My career ended 20 years ago and I still have that glove and use it all the time throwing with my son.

milkmania
11-27-2012, 07:02 PM
A2000 is what I played with (technically an A2002 since I am a lefty). My career ended 20 years ago and I still have that glove and use it all the time throwing with my son.

that was PRE- Korea or Japan manufacturing.... correct?

Michigan Tim
11-27-2012, 07:25 PM
Correct, like many things, the A2000 line was made in the USA at one point during "the good old days". I still have one that was made in the USA, but that was right before they shipped the work elsewhere. Definitely 30 years + ago. I also have A2000 models from the post-USA days and can say that the quality was just as good. As the A2000 was always a premium glove, they seemed to use the best rawhide. I'm sure their entry level gloves got worse in quality once they were made elsewhere.From experience at a very high level of baseball, get your son the smallest glove possible. Fielding with a small glove provides the absolute best fundamentals: moving your feet, getting in front of the ball, etc. A large glove can lead to lazy/bad habits. Playing outfield would be the exception, as a big basket glove may come in handy to reach balls on the run.

milkmania
11-27-2012, 07:34 PM
He's centerfielder, running a 11.5 glove for last 3 years.... When he's pulled in to pitch, he goes to a smaller glove.

I've still got my Wilson from 1982.... I pull it out to play catch to this day

neil.anderson63
11-27-2012, 07:53 PM
My son, High school Senior - Loves Mizuno. Also a Lefty. Mizunos for days on the bump and when in the OF. He has nice Rawlings for 1B - Nothing like having 800 bucks worth of leather before you can vote. I have a Nokona Bloodline that I am breaking in. My gamer is an old Rawlings PRO1125 "6" finger glove. It's toasted.. re-strung several times and been to the shoe cobbler for some rehab. Hate to put it away. But it's getting thinner than old underwear.

bstewart0529
11-27-2012, 10:01 PM
My son use the Muzuno to pitch with and the A2000 to play infield. This was a snap shot we took this summer.

Michigan Tim
11-27-2012, 10:16 PM
Love his arm angle, but, is he throwing a nuckle ball at his age? Save that for when he can't bring the cheese anymore.

milkmania
11-27-2012, 10:36 PM
14 year old team, my son under arrow

tex
11-28-2012, 12:53 AM
X2.....A2000 is a great glove.

I'll stick with my PS197!

neil.anderson63
11-28-2012, 05:38 PM
Knuckle is a fantastic offspeed pitch for kids. Uses about the same arm slot and does not hurt to throw it as a youngster.

bstewart0529
11-28-2012, 08:17 PM
That is exactly why we taught him how to throw one. It is pretty cool to watch hitters lean in to look at it not spinning. Then get called out

Michigan Tim
11-28-2012, 10:43 PM
I'll agree to disagree fellas on the entire knuckle thing. It might use the same arm slot, but the release is completely different. It requires one to push the ball out of your hand rather than release with the wrist. With a good fastball, the hand is on top of the ball at release. With a knuckler, the hand is almost behind/underneath the ball. I will agree that it is muh easier on the arm than any breaking ball: slider/curve. That said, if they ever hope to progress as a pitcher, it will be based on total command of the fastball and 2 off speed pitches. A knuckle can be one of them, but too quirky to build upon. As proof, name 5 pitchers in the big leagues who throw one today! Of those that throw the knuckler, it is their primary pitch, as their other "stuff" isn't good enough. In most cases of successful knuckle ball guys, it was their last ditch effort to stay in the game after their tradional arsenal had gone south. Tim Wakefield being a prime example. If the goal is to dominate and have fun as a kid, then I say go for it. If their goal is to advance through the ranks, then avoid the gimmick and learn to master the basics: fastball, straight change and eventually a breaking ball.

bbymgr
11-29-2012, 10:39 AM
I'll agree to disagree fellas on the entire knuckle thing. It might use the same arm slot, but the release is completely different. It requires one to push the ball out of your hand rather than release with the wrist. With a good fastball, the hand is on top of the ball at release. With a knuckler, the hand is almost behind/underneath the ball. I will agree that it is muh easier on the arm than any breaking ball: slider/curve. That said, if they ever hope to progress as a pitcher, it will be based on total command of the fastball and 2 off speed pitches. A knuckle can be one of them, but too quirky to build upon. As proof, name 5 pitchers in the big leagues who throw one today! Of those that throw the knuckler, it is their primary pitch, as their other "stuff" isn't good enough. In most cases of successful knuckle ball guys, it was their last ditch effort to stay in the game after their tradional arsenal had gone south. Tim Wakefield being a prime example. If the goal is to dominate and have fun as a kid, then I say go for it. If their goal is to advance through the ranks, then avoid the gimmick and learn to master the basics: fastball, straight change and eventually a breaking ball.

I agree. The knuckleball uses a "locked wrist" while the fastball, change and deuce require a loose wrist. Eventually he will start throwing the other pitches with a locked or semi locked wrist which will lesson the effects of those pitches. The fastball won't have as much movement and the curve won't have as much rotation, thus less drop. It can also effect the change up depending on what type he throws (circle,palm or finger lift).

neil.anderson63
12-01-2012, 01:52 PM
I always told my players that they could not throw ANY pitch that ended with their thumb pointing upward until they had a driver's license. The whole group of guys I coached are all Seniors now and none of them ever experienced arm trouble. We were a USSSA Majors / Elite team, so we saw some great compitition over the years. Pitching... It's like real estate... location, location, location and being able to change speeds and add a little wrinkle here and there. Throw the knuckle all the time? NO WAY! - Use it as an off speed once in awhile? Sure. Most important is conditioning, taking the time to warm up properly, long toss to build strength, then cool it all off properly.

Michigan Tim
12-03-2012, 10:20 AM
Great to have some baseball banter on this site in December :D

milkmania
12-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Great to have some baseball banter on this site in December :D

you kiddin'??? we just started school baseball season.... it's always the first day back to school after Thanksgiving break.

bbymgr
12-03-2012, 01:11 PM
you kiddin'??? we just started school baseball season.... it's always the first day back to school after Thanksgiving break.

Here in Indiana there is only one sport that matters during the winter.................Basketball!!:D

Michigan Tim
12-03-2012, 09:19 PM
you kiddin'??? we just started school baseball season.... it's always the first day back to school after Thanksgiving break.

No, I wasn't kidding. Here in Detroit, we have just started getting over an awful World Series, so noone has spoken a word of baseball in about a month. Maybe having an inept NFL team helps ease the pain :( With no NHL on tap and the Pistons 10 games out after 1 month, everyone will be yearning for spring training for sure. Colleges in Michigan will start up with fall ball right when classes resume in September, but then they shut it down at Thanksgiving and don't start up again until January. High school squads can't officially start until lete Feb or early March. Travel teams may get some work done, but all indoors until March and then it's super dicey in March, April and May. We could have 60 and sunny in March and the 30 in May. Very, very frustrating to play ball in Michigan other than mid summer into early fall.

tex
12-04-2012, 09:57 AM
Gloves...I don't wear them...Skin to Win!~

neil.anderson63
12-04-2012, 01:54 PM
Gloves...I don't wear them...Skin to Win!~

Nice shootin' Tex.. :toast:

milkmania
12-12-2012, 11:46 AM
total change in plans......:rolleyes:

During Christmas Break, going to take my son to Nocona Texas to tour the Nokona Glove Factory and let him pick out his glove:woohoo:


http://www.nokona.com/tours.php

http://www.nokona.com/
http://www.suitcasesandsippycups.com/2011/08/made-in-the-usa-factory-tournokona-baseball-gloves.html

I think he'll remember that more than opening a present under the tree:confused:

neil.anderson63
12-13-2012, 06:52 PM
Perfecto - Way to go Dad! :cool: