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bjames
10-24-2012, 02:35 PM
Looking at the Fly-high Additional Ballast kit normally sold as the PWT ballast set up. It comes with 4 bags, hoses and all fittings (2600lbs)

Has anyone installed this themselves? Just wondering if its fairly straight forward to install or if I should look at having the dealer install?

willyt
10-24-2012, 03:06 PM
I've installed the full fly high kit myself... and honestly, if i were to do it again... i wouldnt get the kit.

A: I think larger sacs will fit in the rear lockers
B: i never, ever use the stock port and strb "rear" tanks, as they're about midship. I would take off the input and vents to those tanks and just plumb them to the soft tanks in the lockers
C: I've had problems with the valves. Not sure if this is the installers fault (mine) or flyhigh, but i'll report more this winter
D: its a PIA to switch the valves if you put them in the locker. I would just plumb the front sacs underneath the gullwing seats to the overflow from the KGB (make sure they're flow balanced)
E: It's pretty expensive vs the alternative

if you do get the kit you'll need about 10 extra feet of hose, or you'll be hosed.

willyt
10-24-2012, 03:08 PM
oh. and get rev 10's and don't look back (or stand on the sundeck while they're at full blast)

I initially got rev8's because i thought the 10s would look weird on the tower because they're so big, thing is the xstar tower piping is alot thicker than the rest of the boats so it wouldnt have looked weird.

bjames
10-25-2012, 01:23 PM
thing is the xstar tower piping is alot thicker than the rest of the boats so it wouldnt have looked weird.

Is the Xstar tower piping larger diameter than the other X Series ZFT3? Im asking becuase for some reason I was asking myself that when i was looking at the star. But I have never seen it beside another ZFT3 to compare.

XtwentyNot
10-25-2012, 01:39 PM
I will miss your 25! I'm sure the Star won't disappoint however!

willyt
10-25-2012, 01:45 PM
yup, im not sure exactly what diameter, but its much larger than the other models, i can snap a picture today when i'm out on the boat

XStar08
10-25-2012, 04:54 PM
willyt, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

What if one usually needs not more than stock ballast and just wants by occasion (for himself) the full package. I'm not a fan of the ad hoc pumps. Think it is really about what your needs are. Or do you see other options?

bjames
10-27-2012, 09:20 PM
When I was looking at the 2009 Star today, there was an X15 in the service bay beside it. The Xstar tower dia is certainly larger than the X15 (mayby 1/4 or 1/2 more).

For the ballast set up, Wakemakers does mention connecting the bags to the vent lines fromthe tanks. The idea intrigues me.

XStar08
10-29-2012, 04:41 PM
Yep but as I understood he meant using the bags instead of the stock tanks but using bigger bags...

jason95gt
11-28-2012, 07:18 PM
I love the Star with the PWT kit in it, with or without the valves. The valves are nice if you want to customize the set up a little more. A friend installed the valves under the rear seat sticking out towards the cockpit for easy access. As far as the tower, it is 3" instead of 2 1/2".

swatguy
12-06-2012, 02:43 AM
oh. and get rev 10's and don't look back (or stand on the sundeck while they're at full blast)

I initially got rev8's because i thought the 10s would look weird on the tower because they're so big, thing is the xstar tower piping is alot thicker than the rest of the boats so it wouldnt have looked weird.

That's because the Rev 10's are the exact same size as a pair of old Pro 80's. they are as slim as a 10 inch speaker can be. The Rev 8's are in a Pro 60 housing. 10's all the way

XStar08
01-17-2013, 03:11 PM
Wanted to come back on track re ballast upgrade on an X Star 2004- 2011:

In the owners manual you can download on the website of wakemakers they write the following:
"The last step in this process is to install the Stop Flow T-Assembly for proper venting. Find the rear starboard hard tank vent and measure 12 down the hose from the thru-hull."

http://www.wakemakers.com/media/fly_high_mastercraft_x_star_system_user_guide.pdf

My first question is if there is also a stop flow in the stock ballast vent line. If so where is it placed and thirdly, I think it would make more sense to have them placed closely together so that water which is overflowing from the sack is not able to go towards the stock ballast tank...