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carlsonwa
10-08-2012, 09:57 AM
So I have this back seat which is one big cushion. When you step on it or sit on it, it basically has no structure. I am having some vinyl work done this winter, and would like to rebuild the rear seat to sit up on the ledges on each side of the boat and use a support under the center in the middle. The other seats utilize a thick plastic material. Would be nice to find a sheet of that material and build from that.

Here are a few photos of what I have. The current seat sits so low and I can't leave it there while towing or it would possibly fly out!

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0293.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0294.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0295.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0296.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0297.jpg

Any suggestions or pictures of your Sportstar/Prostar back seat would be great!!
Thanks

CC2MC
10-08-2012, 12:34 PM
Wow, that is a lot of cushion. When I built boats, the upholstery dept used a material called Starboard for the seat substrates, I believe. Here is a link to a company that has a similar product.

http://www.kingplastic.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/King-StarLite-XL-Literature2.pdf

The material used in my 94 PS 205 seems a little more dense than the Starboard and may hold a screw a little better plus you could probably get by with a little thinner sheet, but either way it is still an extruded plastic of some type. You may need to have some kind of support leg in the middle, as that is a pretty long span.

carlsonwa
10-08-2012, 01:28 PM
Yea, I would probably make some type of support in the center just trying to avoid using any wood even marine stuff. Thanks for the suggestion I will have to look into some plastics for the seat bottem.

tdjaster
10-08-2012, 05:37 PM
I've got a SportStar with a much better backseat than that. Let me take a picture and post it for you.

vrsc
10-08-2012, 06:19 PM
I've got a SportStar with a much better backseat than that. Let me take a picture and post it for you.

Please do/ I have the exact same one as the OP and i would be interested in another style. My current one is fine but if there are other options then I'd like to see them

tdjaster
10-08-2012, 06:29 PM
This was done by a previous owner, or maybe even factory. Its great because I use the space for small item storage like ropes and a first aid kit.

85183

85184

Just a little proof that it's highly functional. :-)

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vrsc
10-08-2012, 06:40 PM
Looks great. That isn't factory though. Very Creative and useful

carlsonwa
10-09-2012, 09:09 AM
This was done by a previous owner, or maybe even factory. Its great because I use the space for small item storage like ropes and a first aid kit.

85183

85184

Just a little proof that it's highly functional. :-)

85185

That looks super nice. Great ideas for me to think about as I rebuild this winter. What material is used in for the seat bottem of your seat? I have been looking into this "starboard" material.

carlsonwa
11-14-2012, 10:44 PM
This was done by a previous owner, or maybe even factory. Its great because I use the space for small item storage like ropes and a first aid kit.

85183

85184

Just a little proof that it's highly functional. :-)

85185

What's the width of your center cushion ?

I am working on creating my rear seat as we speak

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tdjaster
11-14-2012, 11:14 PM
I'll check.

carlsonwa
11-15-2012, 12:36 AM
Thanks

As you can see i am taking many ideas from your pictures. I am going with a center removable cushion exposing a carpet entry step. I purchased some Starboard for the next layer and cushion bottoms.

More pictures to follow.


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maxpower220
11-15-2012, 10:51 AM
Instead of carpet for the center step, maybe look at a Sea-Deck like product. That stuff is made for water, it is non skid, and feels good on the feet.

Here is a photo of my 99 Sportstar backseat. The only photo I could find.

mcparadise
11-15-2012, 05:17 PM
So I have this back seat which is one big cushion. When you step on it or sit on it, it basically has no structure. I am having some vinyl work done this winter, and would like to rebuild the rear seat to sit up on the ledges on each side of the boat and use a support under the center in the middle. The other seats utilize a thick plastic material. Would be nice to find a sheet of that material and build from that.

Here are a few photos of what I have. The current seat sits so low and I can't leave it there while towing or it would possibly fly out!

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0293.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0294.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0295.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0296.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0297.jpg

Any suggestions or pictures of your Sportstar/Prostar back seat would be great!!
Thanks

I have the same. Any idea how/where the snaps work? I can't find the mates....

mcparadise
11-15-2012, 05:23 PM
Snaps are in 2 photo down (on bottom of seat)

mcparadise
11-15-2012, 05:27 PM
What's the width of your center cushion ?

I am working on creating my rear seat as we speak

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Keep us up-to-date with pics ;-)

tdjaster
11-16-2012, 06:43 PM
Thanks

As you can see i am taking many ideas from your pictures. I am going with a center removable cushion exposing a carpet entry step. I purchased some Starboard for the next layer and cushion bottoms.

More pictures to follow.

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Sorry for the delay, I got LASIK surgery yesterday so I was out of commission. My center piece is right about 15" wide.

Keep those pictures coming, it looks good so far!

mcparadise
11-16-2012, 08:11 PM
Instead of carpet for the center step, maybe look at a Sea-Deck like product. That stuff is made for water, it is non skid, and feels good on the feet.

Here is a photo of my 99 Sportstar backseat. The only photo I could find.

I can see MC got wise and changed the weird 1998 sportstar 19 design to what you have.

carlsonwa
11-17-2012, 05:43 PM
Few more photos today. Still a ways to go.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/3EC41158-6524-4DDB-9E6E-80DCCBD5C01F-6709-00000451BBD5B160.jpg


http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/93D56566-D0EB-492C-8BC4-CD67785E8588-6709-00000451B2FC65E2.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/60EFCABB-8C66-43E6-A29A-5793C746AB05-6709-00000451AE0BCD49.jpg





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tdjaster
11-17-2012, 05:48 PM
Looking good!

carlsonwa
11-27-2012, 12:42 AM
Trying to determine how large I want the openings for my new storage under the seat cushions will be

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5f8e586e9794dd46f2f0bb5e4324f0bf.jpg


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jhall0711
11-27-2012, 01:06 AM
Nice work man... Coming along great.

mcparadise
11-27-2012, 02:39 AM
Trying to determine how large I want the openings for my new storage under the seat cushions will be

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5f8e586e9794dd46f2f0bb5e4324f0bf.jpg


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I can copy exactly! Nice fitting up.
I want to see how you make the hatch.

BUT, until then, the 3 snaps on each side of the bottom of your original seat are for nothing, right?

carlsonwa
11-27-2012, 09:53 AM
I can copy exactly! Nice fitting up.
I want to see how you make the hatch.

BUT, until then, the 3 snaps on each side of the bottom of your original seat are for nothing, right?

You are welcome to copy!
What do you mean by hatch? I am going to cut 2 openings under the left and right cushion for storage.

The 3 snaps previous snapped into 3 snaps that are screwed into the floor. They were never strong enough however to hold the seat in place while on the freeway it has almost flown away a few times.

carlsonwa
12-03-2012, 09:54 PM
Since I needed carpet for the back seat project. I ordered 8.5x22' from Corinthian marine carpet since it was a 10' min order.

Decided to just go ahead and replace all the original stuff. Corinthian had nearly a perfect match.

Few update pics.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/29ae6492857fd40b6363723cd688e181.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5d9ed8c153bf6e6f32a2ff008754a6db.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5b73289803d350ca451d58098bc6bc47.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/cd2539340775b015fc3579ad6737e4b9.jpg




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mcparadise
12-03-2012, 10:35 PM
You are welcome to copy!
What do you mean by hatch? I am going to cut 2 openings under the left and right cushion for storage.

The 3 snaps previous snapped into 3 snaps that are screwed into the floor. They were never strong enough however to hold the seat in place while on the freeway it has almost flown away a few times.

Hole vs hatch, got it. No need, right.
I found those 6 snaps burined under carpet fuzz. Thanks.
Not that they will work, but a least one question answered. Still a dumb idea.

It's going to look great!

PS My box is vinyl covered, yours glassed, I wonder why the difference....accoring to the write up here on history of pro-stars, mine should be like yours.

milkmania
12-03-2012, 10:52 PM
Trying to determine how large I want the openings for my new storage under the seat cushions will be

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5f8e586e9794dd46f2f0bb5e4324f0bf.jpg


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should be no reason this rebuild wouldn't work for the ProStar 190's is there:confused:

vrsc
12-04-2012, 12:00 AM
PS My box is vinyl covered, yours glassed, I wonder why the difference....accoring to the write up here on history of pro-stars, mine should be like yours.
yours must be a 1998 not 1999 and up?

carlsonwa
12-04-2012, 12:22 AM
My title is 1999. I think it was a very early 99' because it has more similarities to the 98's I have seen online.


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mcparadise
12-04-2012, 12:45 AM
My title is 1999. I think it was a very early 99' because it has more similarities to the 98's I have seen online.


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Did you check your hull #? I think this will confirm yr...

mcparadise
12-04-2012, 12:49 AM
yours must be a 1998 not 1999 and up?

Indeed 1998. I'll try to find the prostar history thread that said what I thought.

"The 1998 model included a black wrap-around windshield frame, unpadded Driver’s armrest, bare fibreglass engine cover, one-colour interior accent, windshield mounted convex mirror, side panel ski storage, two tournament speedometers, ski pylon, transom ski eye, three tracking fins, non-removable swim platform brackets, and did not have a trunk."

This describes my girl BUT vinyl box...

mcparadise
12-04-2012, 12:56 AM
Since I needed carpet for the back seat project. I ordered 8.5x22' from Corinthian marine carpet since it was a 10' min order.

Decided to just go ahead and replace all the original stuff. Corinthian had nearly a perfect match.

Few update pics.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/29ae6492857fd40b6363723cd688e181.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5d9ed8c153bf6e6f32a2ff008754a6db.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/5b73289803d350ca451d58098bc6bc47.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/cd2539340775b015fc3579ad6737e4b9.jpg




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What is your exhaust piping made of?
On my boat I think I have mufflers where I see white piping on yours? I've read posts of MC "silent masters." Mine look like a basic resin material on the outside (black). I do need to look up them ;-)

carlsonwa
12-04-2012, 01:00 AM
The previous owner of mine replaced the oem silent masters with schedule 40 PVC. I am guessing the mufflers started to rot out over time, I have read that somewhere on team talk I believe.


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mcparadise
12-04-2012, 01:02 AM
The previous owner of mine replaced the oem silent masters with schedule 40 PVC. I am guessing the mufflers started to rot out over time, I have read that somewhere on team talk I believe.


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Why not? Seems like a simplistic but workable option. I better watch (and look into) mine now!

carlsonwa
12-04-2012, 10:04 PM
Why not? Seems like a simplistic but workable option. I better watch (and look into) mine now!

It has a real nice sound when cruising. And is nice and quiet still while idling.


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carlsonwa
12-08-2012, 05:01 PM
Quick update. Carpet is out

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/bc179c302270e1656d9c75038c7fc6a2.jpg


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mcparadise
12-09-2012, 11:38 PM
Quick update. Carpet is out

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/bc179c302270e1656d9c75038c7fc6a2.jpg


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The deck looks great.
Was it hard to pull up the carpet? Was there much glue reside to remove, and if so, how did you remove it?

carlsonwa
12-10-2012, 12:26 AM
The deck looks great.
Was it hard to pull up the carpet? Was there much glue reside to remove, and if so, how did you remove it?

The old carpet pulled right off!

There was some adhesive left over. However it was like fine sugar. All I used was a putty knife and the shop vac. Scraped off very easy.

mcparadise
12-10-2012, 12:29 AM
SUPERB to know!! Thanks. Love this place.

_fng_
12-10-2012, 12:10 PM
Great job with the carpet removal. Did you get under the passenger seat? If so how hard was it with the fiberglass seat frame?

carlsonwa
12-10-2012, 06:13 PM
I am leaving the carpet under the passenger seat and closed bow for now.

I got nearly the exact same color, the carpet will give the open area a nice re-vamp

SkiMor
12-12-2012, 09:52 AM
Nice job. Carlsonwa, I have the same boat 98 Sportstar red/white... what gauge is second from the left (beside the fuel gauge)? I have just a blank in that spot.

carlsonwa
12-12-2012, 01:00 PM
Its a depth finder.

Humminbird HDR 650. I epoxied the transducer in hull.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20LEX-ENG-200-11/IMG_1734.jpg

mcparadise
12-12-2012, 01:09 PM
Where you added your depth finder I put a volt meter (98 Sportstar 19). My Depth finder is monitor type that I mounted on the dash (mine is black vs yours white..?).

On the right side is another empty gage spot. I have thought many times what I should put there...it seems dumb to not use it. Perhaps fuel pressure..that seems like an important value to have? + and -, humm...

Anyone have any other ideas?

helton333
12-12-2012, 02:16 PM
I did I think what you are looking for - LEXAN. basically, what white cutting boards are made from. An 8x4 sheet (it's thick, 5/8 to 3/4) and virtually unbreakable - have to cut it with a skill or jig saw - I think it was around $100, but well worth it.

SkiMor
12-13-2012, 09:26 PM
Nice. I'm getting a Perfect Pass this spring...nice to see what the dash will look like. Does the lighter socket work ok in that location, lower left. I thought of adding one to my dash also.

carlsonwa
12-13-2012, 10:51 PM
Nice. I'm getting a Perfect Pass this spring...nice to see what the dash will look like. Does the lighter socket work ok in that location, lower left. I thought of adding one to my dash also.

Perfect pass was the best purchase I have made for the boat this far!!

It is truly a relationship saver. You can teach anyone to use it. And the pull is so much more fun for me skiing or wakeboarding.

I had to use the included spring and put on a zip tie to the closest hose. Without the spring.. If I overshot the speed too much when throttling up it would not slow down to the set speed properly. Had to position the spring to be relaxed in neutral. Here is a photo.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/9687D965-2425-409F-94DC-0708FD449C5A-9807-00000883BE832723.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/A5193415-841B-4435-94C1-182296022723-9807-00000883BA20AC49.jpg

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carlsonwa
12-13-2012, 10:58 PM
Few more rear seat progress pics.

Custom craftsman socket for center cushion locating latch.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/92bbcb04724222a4535333600b323e3c.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/0ebd0751a24efbb5369ba7716bb3245e.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/fa55ace68db646114101a9650990b139.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/9561681459422c12ead241a26699637d.jpg

Side cushions only pictured are the L brackets in the back so the cushion doesn't tip forward. Need to make two more blocks so side cushions cannot slide forward.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/14805ad23f17dbc5e1499673b56c42f9.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/2569bf5a20b96ef8f88be37305740df9.jpg


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homer12
12-14-2012, 01:18 PM
Nice idea on the sockets for seat location and keeping it in place!!:toast:

mikeg205
12-14-2012, 01:38 PM
Nice idea on the sockets for seat location and keeping it in place!!:toast:

pretty crafty.... ;)...nice work!!

milkmania
12-14-2012, 05:50 PM
Nice idea on the sockets for seat location and keeping it in place!!:toast:

pretty crafty.... ;)...nice work!!

Frankentool strikes again:banana:

SkiMor
12-14-2012, 09:44 PM
getting a quote, thanks for the info.

carlsonwa
03-06-2013, 10:48 AM
carpet almost done.

Just finishing the doghouse carpet.

Upholstery will be back this weekend.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_0999_zps2f31ee80.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1071_zps6cf13fcc.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1086_zps3be4c655.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1101_zps87a22e58.jpg

carlsonwa
03-24-2013, 06:23 PM
Picked up upholstery. Slowing getting it put back together.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/E3F1323C-3D10-4CBD-B8F3-04F7B77CA891-421-0000003496DD660E_zps06e0a259.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/F649E56F-5AAA-4DE5-85E5-822FAF8D0C21-421-00000034A7BC740D_zps260e4c64.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/39264A2D-ECDE-4EF8-B604-40D1A6CFB07C-421-000000349BF8A762_zps88d91d9e.jpg

The backrest has a little wrinkle in it. Have to have it stretches a little more. But my vision for the 3 cushion seat worked great. With the "platform" to step into the boat rather than on the upholstery worked out great.







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thatsmrmastercraft
03-24-2013, 06:59 PM
Really nice work on the rear seat.

gusolah
03-25-2013, 12:13 AM
That looks great!

02ProstarSammyD
03-25-2013, 12:26 PM
The backrest has a little wrinkle in it. Have to have it stretches a little more. But my vision for the 3 cushion seat worked great. With the "platform" to step into the boat rather than on the upholstery worked out great.

They stapled it flat and not for the curve. Imagine it was perfect laid out flat. Take the boat when they redo it. I had to redo my front curved backrests like 3x to get it perfect just b/c the tiniest bit of flex will cause wrinkles.

Sodar
03-25-2013, 12:31 PM
That looks great!

CC2MC
03-25-2013, 01:59 PM
Looks awesome. Like the idea.

carlsonwa
03-25-2013, 02:14 PM
They stapled it flat and not for the curve. Imagine it was perfect laid out flat. Take the boat when they redo it. I had to redo my front curved backrests like 3x to get it perfect just b/c the tiniest bit of flex will cause wrinkles.

Thanks for the info, I am planning to take the entire boat to the upholstery shop to have it perfected, so he has the cushion in it's curve state, as soon as it warms up a little here in MN, and the roads clean up.

carlsonwa
04-11-2013, 02:31 PM
couple more updated photos after carpet and upholstery

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/B2BC6E4A-9A52-409E-B27C-85417054A1D7-19898-000012A093653A76_zpsde431066.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/FF26C5DD-DAF0-45B9-9778-2AFBF2339ED4-19898-000012A2FE21F9E3_zps9d8c89b7.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/ADDAA99D-D703-474A-9AF1-789B316D97FF-19898-000012A2F8119543_zpse8617d32.jpg