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Jerseydave
09-26-2012, 08:02 PM
Just wondering what is the best deal I can expect to get on a new F150 pickup?
My local dealer said he would sell it to me for invoice, but can I do better?
(BTW, he showed me the invoice price, which I'm sure I can find myself somewhere also)

It would be an ordered 2013 model.

mzimme
09-26-2012, 08:05 PM
Crew cab? What trim level?

Edmunds.com will show you invoice pricing, generally it doesn't include freight which the dealer can't do much about. It will also show incentives and rebates. Dealers also have a holdback that can usually be brought into negotiations... it's usually a few hundred bucks.

Pick your trim... this is for 2012 though.
http://www.edmunds.com/ford/f-150/2012/car-incentives.html

Jerseydave
09-26-2012, 08:28 PM
Supercrew, eco-boost, either Platinum or Limited. 3.73 rear, loaded.
I like the new grill and HID headlights on the 2013's.

Have not had a Ford since my '88 Dually but these new ones are real nice.

Anyone ever compare the 5.0 V-8 to the Eco-boost for towing? MPG?

medicmoose
09-26-2012, 08:45 PM
...generally it doesn't include freight which the dealer can't do much about.

What a scam that is.....freight :rolleyes: When was the last time you went to Wal-Mart, saw the price of an item and went to pay for it only to be told they will have to add $5 onto the price due to freight???? Guess what dealers....if you don't bring the cars to your dealership...you wouldn't have a dealership!

And....don't get me going on the "documentation fee"! Just another way for the dealers to squeeze even more money out of your wallet.

Sorry, thread jack is over...just had to rant.....carry on! :D

maxpower220
09-26-2012, 08:53 PM
Supercrew, eco-boost, either Platinum or Limited. 3.73 rear, loaded.
I like the new grill and HID headlights on the 2013's.

Have not had a Ford since my '88 Dually but these new ones are real nice.

Anyone ever compare the 5.0 V-8 to the Eco-boost for towing? MPG?

Check the F150 forums for an economy comparo, read through it. I have been looking at a new FX4 or Lariet. I am sold on the Ecoboost. In theory, it gets better mileage. For sure, it has more torque at a lower RPM.

13 has a new dash also.

On those 2 lines, you should expect $10K off of sticker at a minimum. A local dealer advertises 10K off depending on trim.

BriEOD
09-26-2012, 09:01 PM
Keep in mind that Ford (parent corporation) has 3% holdback on on all sales. Or in other words, the dealer could indeed sell you the truck for invoice. Subsequent to the sale, Ford is going to reimburse the dealer 3% of the total sale. Therefore, don't feel too bad for the dealer and make sure you toss this nugget out during your negotiations.

I have a 2005 F-150 and love it. I'm a big Ford guy and we are going to probably trade my wife's Expedition in on a new Explorer in the next month or so. Oh, the joys of car shopping...

Andyg
09-27-2012, 06:36 AM
I recently ordered, April of this year a 2012 Ford F150 FX4. I paid invoice and still got all the rebates available to me on top of that. I think I ended up getting $4000 in rebates so I basically paid $4000 below invoice when said and done.

Andyg

Double
09-27-2012, 10:40 AM
Supercrew, eco-boost, either Platinum or Limited. 3.73 rear, loaded.
I like the new grill and HID headlights on the 2013's.

Have not had a Ford since my '88 Dually but these new ones are real nice.

Anyone ever compare the 5.0 V-8 to the Eco-boost for towing? MPG?

I pulled my boat with a friends new f150 with the Eco-boost and I was very impressed. Had plenty of power and for the short drive the instant MPG was around 16-17. I was babying it a little as it wasn't my vehicle.

mayo93prostar
09-27-2012, 04:52 PM
C'MON Man (Dave)... Stay with Chevy!! OK, does the ecoboost really get that much better gas mileage than a chevy v8, is it enough to change brands? I have had four Silverados and love them but the Fords do look nice, especially the old one sitting my 93 hull!

Thrall
09-27-2012, 05:16 PM
Towing, the Eco is a little better. At high altitude I'm sure the Eco will dust the 5.0 though.
Mileage, about the same between my 5.0 and guy at work's Eco. His is 4x4 crew cab Eco, mine 2wd Ext cab 5.0 with enough tools in the back that it weighs as much or more than his.
We both avg 18-18.5 commuting mostly highway.
The 5.0 tows great. Best engine/trans combo I've ever driven for a gasser. I have yet to pull anything with GM's new 6speed auto/6.2 or teh newest 5.7 Hemi's (6speed now too?).
It pulls better than any of the big 5 (incl Nippon and Yota) of a few years ago. I avg about 13mpg pulling a 8 to 14klb trailer with the 5.0.

pmikler
09-27-2012, 06:16 PM
My father in law bought one last year. I couldn't get over how much available power it compared to my 5.4. It just seems to keep pulling. It also amazes me how much quieter it was over my Ford that's only 4 years old. If you buy one I would Fab a grill to cover the inter coolers since they are low and his has already taken some major hits from road debris. With that said is does say something in the warranty about putting anything in front of the inter coolers

Jerseydave
09-27-2012, 09:59 PM
Towing, the Eco is a little better. At high altitude I'm sure the Eco will dust the 5.0 though.
Mileage, about the same between my 5.0 and guy at work's Eco. His is 4x4 crew cab Eco, mine 2wd Ext cab 5.0 with enough tools in the back that it weighs as much or more than his.
We both avg 18-18.5 commuting mostly highway.
The 5.0 tows great. Best engine/trans combo I've ever driven for a gasser. I have yet to pull anything with GM's new 6speed auto/6.2 or teh newest 5.7 Hemi's (6speed now too?).
It pulls better than any of the big 5 (incl Nippon and Yota) of a few years ago. I avg about 13mpg pulling a 8 to 14klb trailer with the 5.0.

I had an '07 Denali 6.2 with the 6-speed auto and although it was good towing the X-star on flat ground, the hills on I-81 in VA would slow it down a bit with the A/C on too. 10 mpg towing the star, 16-17 solo highway. Never got any higher mpg than that.
The '07 suburban with the 5.3 liter and 4-speed auto does ok pulling, almost as good as the 6.2 (except on hills) and gets 10-11 mpg towing, 17-18 solo so not much gained. I do like being able to use 4WD low for steep ramps and for backing into the barn uphill.

Jerseydave
09-27-2012, 10:03 PM
C'MON Man (Dave)... Stay with Chevy!! OK, does the ecoboost really get that much better gas mileage than a chevy v8, is it enough to change brands? I have had four Silverados and love them but the Fords do look nice, especially the old one sitting my 93 hull!

2014 GM trucks will be all new with more hp (maybe a 400hp 5.3?) but I don't want to wait that long...and also don't want to buy the first year of a style change either. Plus I'm sure a loaded 2014 Suburban will be north of $60K....not doing that either.

I'm kinda sold on the new F-150.....mostly because of the eco-boost and the interior....it's really the most plush pickup cab I've ever seen!

MattsCraft
09-27-2012, 10:23 PM
Total thread jack here but have to tell you my replacement T-Reg was put to the test last weekend to Norris. Average towing MPG was about 14-16. If you pedal it in the mountains was running in 8th (yes 8 speed tranny) downhill running at 1900 RPM's 79 to 80 MPH at the base of the hill, drop to 7th as I am starting up the hill, jumps to 2400 RPM's and power to the top of the hill at 70 MPH. Totally breathtaking and never had to go below 6th gear or 3000 RPM's even if someone was in the way on the downhill, to keep running at 70 on the uphill. All while running AC and from a 6 cylinder diesel.

Personally, I will never go back to a gaser for towing, this little turbo diesel is a beast, you can physically lug it at 1800-2000 RPM's using the manual shift. I played with cruise a bit, while you can run this way, it is late and shifts too much.

Go Diesel my friends... Why on earth the US market does not wake up and offer it on a 1500 PU is beyond me.:rolleyes: By the way, my average non towing combined is 30 MPG if you keep your foot out of it, and trust me it has breathtaking acceleration for a 5000# vehicle.

Jerseydave
09-27-2012, 11:53 PM
On GM 2500 trucks:

Diesel engine/Allison trans is about $8000 option
Diesel oil change is 2-3 times more than gas oil change
DEF fluid required for most newer diesels
Cost of diesel fuel is .20-.30 more per gal. than reg gas
Closest diesel station to me is 10 miles away

I leave my house at 3:30 am 3/times a week and any diesel will wake the neighbors so no diesel for me.

GM should have proceeded with the 4.5 liter diesel for 1/2 tons and suburbans but they have bigger problems it seems. That company better wake up.

kjohnson
09-28-2012, 09:10 AM
Someone on here works for Ford and can get you employee pricing. I did it once. Don't know if he is still on TeamTalk or not, but maybe he will see this post. Employee pricing can save you a lot of money.

mzimme
09-28-2012, 09:24 AM
Someone on here works for Ford and can get you employee pricing. I did it once. Don't know if he is still on TeamTalk or not, but maybe he will see this post. Employee pricing can save you a lot of money.

Invoice pricing is better than X plan or A plan. Those employee pricing things are just built to get people in the door and back out of it with a new vehicle.

Jason.H.
09-28-2012, 10:54 AM
I think mattscraft is maybe talking about a vw toureg or q7. He didnt say what kind of tow rig he has but 30mpg solo can not be a heavy duty deisel.

mc190
09-28-2012, 01:46 PM
I have a 2012 2 wheel drive 150 with the Eco boost through work. I am a Chevy man and I love it! I can average 22-24 mpg on the highway and 18-20 city. I haven't reset the mpg while towing my boat. But it pulls my boat better than my z71 w/v8. My next truck if not a diesel will be f150 w/Eco boost. With the traction control I haven't had any problems pulling out of wet ramps like I have in the past with 2 wheel drive trucks. My $.02 for what it's worth. Good luck!n


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waterbug
09-29-2012, 03:34 PM
Invoice pricing is better than X plan or A plan. Those employee pricing things are just built to get people in the door and back out of it with a new vehicle.

You have no clue what you are talking about! You should get your facts straight before you start pecking away at your keyboard thinking you are so smart... I am looking at an invoice for a 2012 F-150 Lariat Crew, Ecoboost:

MSRP: $49,845
Invoice: $45,352
x-plan: $45,445
A-Plan: $43,579

Plus, all rebates come off pricing

Seems to me, there's a big difference.... A-plan is for Ford employees and their immediate family only, not even dealer employees (D-plan is a little more than A-Plan)

I switch vehicles every week, so I've spent time in them all..... I don't really care what I drive, or what manufacturer. However, Ecoboost is the clear winner.