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john jones
09-08-2012, 12:54 PM
I am looking at a 1993 225 Maristar tomorrow. It has a 351 indmar 275 hp motor with 250 hours. It is direct drive, not sure which transmission. It looks clean, trailer is in great shape. I really don't like the outside color. It has a baby blue upper, can this be changed? If so is it just a decal or is it more involved?

From the pics it looks clean. I would love to have a newer V drive but money is an issue.

He is asking 12,500 for it. Sound reasonable?

We currently have an 89 tristar, love the boat just need some more room for the growing family. We wakeboard and sometimes slalom ski. It appears that the maristar is a good fit for the family.

So give me the good and bad. Things to think about, an idea on a fair price.

thanks for the help

Traxx822
09-08-2012, 01:14 PM
I am looking at a 1993 225 Maristar tomorrow. It has a 351 indmar 275 hp motor with 250 hours. It is direct drive, not sure which transmission. It looks clean, trailer is in great shape. I really don't like the outside color. It has a baby blue upper, can this be changed? If so is it just a decal or is it more involved?

From the pics it looks clean. I would love to have a newer V drive but money is an issue.

He is asking 12,500 for it. Sound reasonable?

We currently have an 89 tristar, love the boat just need some more room for the growing family. We wakeboard and sometimes slalom ski. It appears that the maristar is a good fit for the family.

So give me the good and bad. Things to think about, an idea on a fair price.

thanks for the help

I just bought a 95 maristar 200 VRS couple months back. So far so good. Only bad thing I found is the rub rails have a tendency to leak as the tristar does since the swim platform and rub rail meld at that joint. I bought mine for $10k Needed some vinyl work, only seem issues and got the cushions redone threw a tower on it redid rub rail and put in stereo and I'm 16k invested. But I didn't have to pay all at once. For that price the boat you are looking at better be perfect. You can find a better deal for an early v drive. good luck.

rholmes
09-08-2012, 10:25 PM
I think 13,5k doesn't sound too bad for a starting point for a clean model with that few hours. Remember that the maristar's (at least this old) didn't have tracking fins, so if you are a bigger guy (190+lbs) and wakeboarding, you could wag the tail a bit on these when loading the line. I speak only from experience with my old 210. They were billed as the luxury "series" though back then and weren't as geared towards the skiers as some of the other models. For recreational use though, the maristars are just fine. It's a big boat, you will enjoy the extra space with the family over a tristar!

maristardd
09-09-2012, 03:44 AM
We've been really happy with the 94 Maristar 225 we picked up this summer. Offered at 12k, purchased $10k, 700 hours. Our is LT1 1:1 transmission, and pulls very strong. Big plus is all the space. We've had two families in the boat (9 people) and it still seemed like there was lots of room to spare. Boat rated for 12. Behind the driver's seat I like to put a coleman marine cooler with the cushion seat top, my son loves as his seat. I actually prefer the direct drive for space, as it seems to spread folks around both when driving and anchored for lunch -- we wouldn't use the sundeck of v-drive. We added New Dimension tower which looks and performs great and keeps floor clear of boards.

Check condition of eye bolt and v-bunk if has the boat buddy. Mine was banged up and bent from hitting v-bunk on load and recover (its a long boat, hard to just drive it up if trailer ramp angle is not just right). I put smaller eye bolt in and got replacement v-bunk carpeted pad from Mastercraft dealer.

Also take a look into the two main side interior panels, and see the condition of the wood for that panel. Especially on drivers side that is a long piece, mine was repaired by PO with metal brace where it either cracked or went bad.

FYI that with 22.5" boat, you'll get a 25" trailer - it won't fit in standard garage or parking space like a smaller boat might. But its not that heavy to tow, I think just about 3000 pounds, as it was before they made the boats a lot heavier.

I'd like the baby blue color with white. Ours is teal with pink/gray accent stripe over white (oyster). If you redo interior mostly white w/o the baby blue, when needed, you might find that solves your dislike of the color. PO of my boat redid interior and did black accent strip instead of pink. That black is _hot_ - not recommended.

As a do-all family boat, its perfect for us. It drives and handles great. With weight from 8-9 passengers, or sacs if just 2 or 3 people it has a nice wake, but also nice to ski behind. And everyone that joins us comments on how much room there is, especially when you've got a few little kids on board.

Hope it works out!

tlcrichardson
09-09-2012, 08:17 AM
I picked up a 2001 230 vrs with perfect seats/tower/brand new "zero hours" 350indmar 330 hp and new manifolds for 16500. I love it and has 300 hours on motor now up here in Maine. It never sits still and I think they have a dedicated pump at the gas dock for me. But would not want anything different. well maybe ballast

john jones
09-09-2012, 10:14 AM
thanks for the opinions. This gives me an idea of things to look for and a decent price point. Looking at it this morning, I will post some details later. Maybe even a for sale add for my Tristar:)

Here is a pic of the one I am looking at

maristardd
09-09-2012, 04:28 PM
Color seems more like teal than baby blue?

maristardd
09-09-2012, 04:31 PM
Btw, seems like no Bimini which maybe you can use to get a lower price?

petemcc
09-09-2012, 09:26 PM
We picked up a 92 Maristar 210 a few years back - 280 hrs, perfect interior and exterior condition for $12k. So far the best money I've spent.
If my wife would do it again however she'd want the extra space that a V drive provides.

john jones
09-10-2012, 12:23 AM
I think your right Maristardd, it is more teal. It looks like the Titanic compared to my Tristar:)

Looked at it today. It looks nice, clean well kept. We didn't get out on the water, we are planning for a test drive this week. There is some interior fading on the rear center cushion and the cushion in the front of the nose. It seems to be a Mastercraft issue because I have seen that same thing in other boats.

It has a bimini top, cover, some other extras.

Thanks for the help, keep the suggestions coming

maristardd
09-10-2012, 02:43 AM
It looks nice in the photo you posted, both it and trailer seem in good shape.. Wonder why he pulled graphics off - sun/fading or docking/mooring incidents?

john jones
09-16-2012, 06:08 PM
Ok here is the update. This boat is nice, great condition drives well steers well. A few minior upholstery issues. Trailer is perfect. It has been stored inside its whole life.

The only bummer is.... We took it for a test drive today. it appears that the rear main seal is leaking. i noticed there was oil running down the plate infront of the transmission. We wiped it off took it for another run. Oil appeared again on the plate.

my question is how hard is it. Do you have to pull the motor? To have it done at a dealer how much does it cost?

The owner is a standup guy. He was bummed like I was. He said he will get it fixed, and wants me to call the mechanic so I can talk to him. I told him thats how it goes when it has 250 hours and sat for 2 years (his wife died and he hasn't used it since)

any advice is appreciated.

Traxx822
09-17-2012, 07:59 AM
Ok here is the update. This boat is nice, great condition drives well steers well. A few minior upholstery issues. Trailer is perfect. It has been stored inside its whole life.

The only bummer is.... We took it for a test drive today. it appears that the rear main seal is leaking. i noticed there was oil running down the plate infront of the transmission. We wiped it off took it for another run. Oil appeared again on the plate.

my question is how hard is it. Do you have to pull the motor? To have it done at a dealer how much does it cost?

The owner is a standup guy. He was bummed like I was. He said he will get it fixed, and wants me to call the mechanic so I can talk to him. I told him thats how it goes when it has 250 hours and sat for 2 years (his wife died and he hasn't used it since)

any advice is appreciated.

IMHO if you like the boat, think its a fair price and he fixes the rear main what do you have to lose. Couple interior issues isn't a big deal. I may also suggest that you change the oil (if you buy it) and run it for a few hours first. That may just be due to the thing sitting and just need broke back in. I just bought my 95 maristar 200 this summer. Same thing guy had it sitting and it leaked out the rear main a bit ... small bit... but stopped. I have put 90 hours since I got the boat and it has not lost any oil after the first 50 hour oil change. So it may work itself out.

walterlaughlin
12-15-2012, 10:25 AM
I just bought a 95 maristar 200 VRS couple months back. So far so good. Only bad thing I found is the rub rails have a tendency to leak as the tristar does since the swim platform and rub rail meld at that joint. I bought mine for $10k Needed some vinyl work, only seem issues and got the cushions redone threw a tower on it redid rub rail and put in stereo and I'm 16k invested. But I didn't have to pay all at once. For that price the boat you are looking at better be perfect. You can find a better deal for an early v drive. good luck.

Hello, I picked up a 95 Maristar v-drive last summer and am loving it! It does leak some water on the starboard side. I was thinking it might be a broken pitot tube since the speedo is not working. But then I read your quote about leaking rub rails. What is the easiest way to diagnose if that is happening with my boat? If that is the case, how would I fix that? Thanks!

mikeg205
12-15-2012, 10:38 AM
Hello, I picked up a 95 Maristar v-drive last summer and am loving it! It does leak some water on the starboard side. I was thinking it might be a broken pitot tube since the speedo is not working. But then I read your quote about leaking rub rails. What is the easiest way to diagnose if that is happening with my boat? If that is the case, how would I fix that? Thanks!

I refurbished my rub rail last winter...

to diagnose - #1 rub rail should be tight. #2 use garden hose and pressure nozzle and spray under rub rail.

to repair - you re-glass problem area depending on severity of hell/deck separation or check rivets that secure deck to hull. on my 95 PS205 I took out all the rivets filled new rivet holes with 3M5200 as well as running a new bead of 5200 over (under) deck/hull seam. Re-installed rub rail. no more leaks.

thinking back I should have considered separating deck from hull and replacing carpet while I had all the rivets out. Then I could have ran a new bead of sealant in the deck hull joint - but I wonder if I would have been able to get deck back on hell once lifted off...with the tools I have..

LaRue
12-15-2012, 10:47 AM
I loosened rub rail on starboard side by transom and used industrial grade waterproof caulk along seam and screw holes.. Put rub rail back on and no leak and no visible evidence. Pretty simple fix in my case

Traxx822
12-15-2012, 01:18 PM
Hello, I picked up a 95 Maristar v-drive last summer and am loving it! It does leak some water on the starboard side. I was thinking it might be a broken pitot tube since the speedo is not working. But then I read your quote about leaking rub rails. What is the easiest way to diagnose if that is happening with my boat? If that is the case, how would I fix that? Thanks!


I don't think Pitot tube is correct. I think its done static. Nonetheless, Pull carpet back on your starboard side and run plowing water about 8-10 mph surfing speed and if you see water coming in. Your done. I doubt the speedo has anything to do with it. I could be wrong. Anyone else?

mikeg205
12-15-2012, 01:41 PM
You can easily check the tube... and trimming and re-seating the the pitot tube may bring new life to your speedo. Take speedo out...check tube by having some blow - yeah yuck - pitot could be block as well for the speedo.. Year of boat - I am thinking it's a leaky deck/hull union. redid my boat in a weekend...have pictures on my profile and [URL="http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=32234&page=114"]here[/URL

Easy to pull and save rub rail - just use a heat gun to warm it up and it will come out without damaging hull mounting part.

Traxx822
12-15-2012, 04:06 PM
This is a pitot tube. I have never seen one on a boat. Top right of the photo. The thing sticking out the back of the boat is calibrated for the vacuum created as the water rushes past it and its calibrated in MPH. So its a static tube right?

Definition of pitot tube:
The basic pitot tube consists of a tube pointing directly into the fluid flow. As this tube contains fluid, a pressure can be measured; the moving fluid is brought to rest (stagnates) as there is no outlet to allow flow to continue. This pressure is the stagnation pressure of the fluid, also known as the total pressure or (particularly in aviation) the pitot pressure.

mikeg205
12-15-2012, 07:14 PM
here's a boat pitot.. http://www.skidim.com/searchprods.asp... maybe yours was upgrade to a paddle wheel.. I have 2 pitots... the water pushes against the air to create pressure as you describe... there are also two regulators.. before the tubes run to the back of the speedos.

Traxx822
12-15-2012, 08:40 PM
I guess I completely misunderstood how thus part worked. I thought it measured the vacuum of the back of that bot the pressure on the front. Sweet. Thanks for clearing it up.