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memphis23
08-15-2012, 01:22 PM
Okay with only a $500 budget(maybe a little over) I wanted to get everyone's opinion on which they would do first?

Engine make over (new valve covers, plug wires, all of the hoses and belts and paint)

or

New Dash which is $469 as a single item. If I do the dash I am thinking I am going to want to replace all of the gauges as well which I think will run me over budget a little I think I can get gauges for around $250

which one should be done first and does anyone have any suggestions as where I can get the stuff needed to complete either of the projects?

thanks

Kyle
08-15-2012, 01:34 PM
Can you post pics of the dash in its current shape and the engine in its current shape.

Also people see the dash. Not many of your passengers will raise the engine cover to check out the new valve covers. Just Sayin'

memphis23
08-15-2012, 01:40 PM
I will post pics later tonight the engine is ruff and the dash is in bad shape as well

thanks

oxberger
08-15-2012, 02:35 PM
I would say it depends on if the engine needs the items you mentioned or not. The way I'm handling mine was to make sure the engine was in perfect running order (I don't do any shiny upgrades because of what Kyle mentioned) then focus on interior and cosmetic stuff. Pics will help with comments.

memphis23
08-15-2012, 02:59 PM
The engine runs great. It just has rusted valve covers and rust just about everywhere. Pics coming tonight

oxberger
08-15-2012, 03:01 PM
As long as the rust isn't affecting driveability then I'd go with the dash. Can't wait to see the pics. What year and model?

memphis23
08-15-2012, 08:37 PM
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memphis23
08-15-2012, 08:40 PM
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memphis23
08-15-2012, 10:48 PM
1987 Prostar

http://i50.tinypic.com/k47b6x.jpg

memphis23
08-15-2012, 10:53 PM
http://i50.tinypic.com/196m8g.jpg

memphis23
08-15-2012, 10:57 PM
http://i46.tinypic.com/1z3mogk.jpg

memphis23
08-15-2012, 10:59 PM
http://i47.tinypic.com/33x8n0o.jpg

memphis23
08-15-2012, 11:15 PM
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memphis23
08-15-2012, 11:16 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/29d8rxu.jpg

Ben
08-15-2012, 11:20 PM
Dash for sure. Engine isn't cherry but not as bad as you said. Replace stuff on there one item at a time later.

Redstorm
08-15-2012, 11:59 PM
If the engine runs fine do the dash. You could clean up that engine with a little elbow grease. Exhaust manifold and risers can be striped and re-painted. Fine steel wool on valve covers( stay away from the lettering) will clean a lot of that rust. The wires and cap don't look that old.
NICE LOOKINBOAT!!

thatsmrmastercraft
08-16-2012, 01:08 AM
As long as the engine is doing well, do the dash stuff.

FrankSchwab
08-16-2012, 01:52 AM
Personally, I'd call it a 20 year old boat, and spend the $500 on gas for skiing.

But, I think you'll get a lot more value out of a cosmetic dash upgrade than a cosmetic engine upgrade. When you take out the old dash, get some DeOxit from your local electronics store, and use it to clean up the electrical contacts in the connectors, the wire ends, etc. It'll help resolve any electrical gremlins you have.

gweaver
08-16-2012, 02:19 AM
You originally mentioned belts and hoses. Given that those are potential failure points (I lost a coolant hose during a camping trip- almost ruined the trip for us), I'd give the belts and hoses a serious look to make sure they're in good shape. Take care of the mechanical stuff, then worry about cosmetic.
Greg

memphis23
08-16-2012, 04:38 PM
Actually I have already changed the belt but you have a very good point about the hoses

memphis23
08-16-2012, 04:40 PM
I am leaning towards changing one maybe 2 hoses and the focusing on the dash. Has anyone seen a overlay on the dash maybe brushed aluminum or maybe some sort of cool plastic?

memphis23
08-16-2012, 04:41 PM
Also I have seen some white faced gauges but I can not find them now and I am not even sure if they were made to fit my dash

Jeffer
08-16-2012, 09:26 PM
I gotta' go with the majority. If the engine runs well, do the dash. You look at it EVERY time you get in, and it's really nice to have it looking' good. I completely redid my '96 dash, panels, gauges, all this spring/summer and I smile every time I sit I that seat.
Engine cosmetics is a great NEXT project.
That's my $0.02 (or $500, in your case) worth...

jfw432
08-16-2012, 11:14 PM
I bet you can do both if you play your cards right... I cleaned up my engine for under $50 with a little paint, elbow grease, and new valve covers. See the before and after pictures.

$20 chrome valve covers from summit racing - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CAL-198237/
$10-$15 for valve cover gaskets and any others you may need
$6-$12 for a can of engine enamel at your local auto store - I bought black and silver (take off the parts you can get to and then you can spray some in a cup and brush it in the tight places)
Sorry I can't remember what the coolant hose ran but it was under $10-$15 and mostly for cosmetic purposes

Redstorm
08-17-2012, 01:34 AM
Nicely done jfw!!!

Jeffer
08-17-2012, 11:08 AM
Jfw - great work, looks like you spent a ton instead! Good post.

thatsmrmastercraft
08-17-2012, 11:14 AM
I bet you can do both if you play your cards right... I cleaned up my engine for under $50 with a little paint, elbow grease, and new valve covers. See the before and after pictures.

$20 chrome valve covers from summit racing - http://www.summitracing.com/parts/CAL-198237/
$10-$15 for valve cover gaskets and any others you may need
$6-$12 for a can of engine enamel at your local auto store - I bought black and silver (take off the parts you can get to and then you can spray some in a cup and brush it in the tight places)
Sorry I can't remember what the coolant hose ran but it was under $10-$15 and mostly for cosmetic purposes

Nicely done. I appreciate well executed applications of elbow grease. :toast:

memphis23
08-17-2012, 02:40 PM
Wow very Nice job JFW! Inspiring

memphis23
08-17-2012, 05:06 PM
do you have any pics of the back seat it looks like a possible modification

ctjahn
08-17-2012, 05:44 PM
Actually I have already changed the belt but you have a very good point about the hoses

Dont forget fuel line, filter, oil, oilfilter, etc...etc... Cheap, easy, quick...

When I got the 78, I did the essentials first that screamed to me (hoses, belts, etc - spelled pending doom), then did things that I saw were potental issues (Wiring, switches, fusebox, etc) and inbetween did the engine detail...

Now were running the ell out of it! :)

cj

memphis23
08-17-2012, 06:20 PM
just picked up my new hose. I have already do some of the essentials (water separator, fuel filter, oil change, transmission flush, plugs) I guess I should have been cleaning along the way but did not because I did not know if this boat was going to be a POS or not. So now that she has done such a good job this summer I was planning on rewarding her with some cosmetics

Redstorm
08-17-2012, 06:59 PM
There ya go memph. She's your mistress .......take care of her and she'll take care of you!

Jeffer
08-17-2012, 09:28 PM
Makes me feel bad that I just throw her in the garage and go have a beer when I'm done with her...
Guess I need to show her more respect!

jfw432
08-17-2012, 09:59 PM
do you have any pics of the back seat it looks like a possible modification

I assume you were talking to me on this. I don't have a mastercraft but my seats were done on the cheap as well so maybe you can use the same concept with yours. All of my front and back seats no longer have any stitching. I just bought some grey vinyl from the fabric store for $15/yd, stretched it as best as I could, and stapled it to the wood on the back. Some of my wood had to be replaced and some of the cushions should have been replaced. It could look better if it was done professionally but it looks a whole lot better than it did.