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pwilson431
07-11-2012, 09:14 PM
I am looking at restoring a classic skier 19. I have found this one on craigslist and have talked to the owner and the stringers are solid. I do not know about the engine but I am going to go look at the boat this weekend. I want to restore this boat to factory new. I want to know what questions I need to ask other than the ones listed.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/boa/3116050768.html



how many hours on the engine
has it been is salt water
what is the condition of the transmisson


Thanks for your help

bailey78
07-11-2012, 09:26 PM
Looks rough, windshield will be hard to find if not impossilble to find! Nothings impossible though!

Jim@BAWS
07-11-2012, 09:43 PM
I am looking at restoring a classic skier 19. I have found this one on craigslist and have talked to the owner and the stringers are solid. I do not know about the engine but I am going to go look at the boat this weekend. I want to restore this boat to factory new. I want to know what questions I need to ask other than the ones listed.

http://atlanta.craigslist.org/atl/boa/3116050768.html



how many hours on the engine
has it been is salt water
what is the condition of the transmisson


Thanks for your help

$500 to remove it from his property!!!

phickman
07-11-2012, 11:02 PM
Pass on the boat...not worth your time. Missing the windshield. Impossible to find. If it was a 1970-1975 boat yes/maybe. You would have a classic worth getting into. Those are rare. A 1979 was in full production at that point. It having been painted like a car and who only knows what else is missing and neglected. I'm a sucker for an old ski boat, but I would pass on this. That boat is not very far from me. Been for sale a long time. If it was worthy it would have been snatched up by now. Just my opinion. I have restored some of these boats, so I feel my opinion is valid.

tph
07-11-2012, 11:34 PM
Too bad something like this isn't closer.

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/3071818168.html

pwilson431
07-11-2012, 11:56 PM
Thanks for all the responses. I saw the boat and thought for what he is asking for it I could fix it up and have a good ski boat for a relative small investment, but I do know you get what you pay for and I will pass on this one. Thanks again.

joyner1020
07-12-2012, 12:20 AM
If ur looking for an old fixer up'er theres one in little rock arkansas , found it just looking around tonight on craigslist ...
The gelcoat is shot but it has the windshield :D

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/bod/3094567210.html

j.mccreight@hotmail.com
07-12-2012, 12:24 AM
Hey between the 2 of these you have all the bones for 1 good boat;)

phickman
07-12-2012, 03:18 AM
Of the two..the little rock boat is more valid. Looks like it is mostly there. You would be surprised what the gelcoat would do with a good wet sand and buff plus new decals. Price is probably fair if motor is free and not stuck. It is a deluxe interior boat..some find that desirable but also more expensive to recover. Will most like need floor and stringer work too.

Just be careful with project boats if you are not the type to stick with getting something done. I have seen it too many times where the new wears off and the reality of the project sets in. Some of us enjoy the journey...others get disheartened and quit. It is best to buy something that gets you skiing then you can do stuff as you have time. You can buy a boat that needs one of everything such as these or a boat that is little more expensive and spend a little more to move it to nice. Just be careful polishing turds....we have all done it. Rough on the wallet

pmkkdx
07-12-2012, 09:28 AM
not my cup of tea but to each their own ...

here is another '79 fixer upper for $950 http://austin.craigslist.org/boa/3097768887.html

SilviaMan
07-12-2012, 10:53 AM
not my cup of tea but to each their own ...

here is another '79 fixer upper for $950 http://austin.craigslist.org/boa/3097768887.html

That poor boat!
Not sure how I would feel about the rudder being placed on the cinder blocks!

old blue
07-12-2012, 03:58 PM
Might be worth the wind shield? Their hard to get.

79 S@S rda
07-12-2012, 04:21 PM
If some one is looking for a 77 windshield and picked the 79 up for the glass and frame I
Would swap them as I have a 77 windshield on my 79 boat. Can send pics it has one crack at the vent holes and some spidering I could not get out. But the frame is good and complete.

Lakeview
07-12-2012, 06:30 PM
Pass on the Atlanta boat-unless you have unlimited funds,you'll be way over your head-plenty of good used mastercrafts and correct crafts out there-good luck

Cloaked
07-12-2012, 08:16 PM
Pass on the Atlanta boat-unless you have unlimited funds,you'll be way over your head-plenty of good used mastercrafts and correct crafts out there-good luck
Agreed. Best advice.

harleygirl
07-13-2012, 01:07 PM
My husband and I did purchase this boat. First he had it listed incorrectly. It is a 1976 not a 1979. Second we got it for asteal. WAY less than he had it listed for. The boat is actually in great condition. The hull is solid as a rock !! the motor is solid. The kid had no idea what he had. The windshield is a bit of a challenge. IF we cant find an original, which it looks like it will be that way, we found a guy who can build an exact replica. My husband can do all the motor work needed, we have alrady replaced a floor in our other boat, which is a 1986 Python. And I can do carpet and upholstery. Does anyone out there know what the original paint schemes were on a 1976? I have seen some that have been resotred. I saw a rootbeer and cream but I am not sure if that is original. I have also seen where someone said the white hull, blue stripe and red pin stripe with white stars is original but noone can give me a definite answer. Mastercraft is working on finding the info as well. Evidently this is a diamond in the rough. Any help would be appreciated. I will post pictures as we restore it.

pmkkdx
07-13-2012, 01:30 PM
I believe there were a variety of colors / color combinations ... examples in the following links.

http://www.chooseyouritem.com/boats/files/8664000/8664350.html

http://www.buyandsellboats.com/boats/for-sale/818657/

http://boats.oodle.com/1976-mastercraft/for-sale/

http://mastercraft-boats-for-sale.net/?page_id=6&id=16179

once you get the "paint" removed, you will likely see what the original color scheme was...

Lumbergh
07-13-2012, 02:01 PM
@ Harleygirl:

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/Lumbergh556/PicsOrItDidntHappen.jpg

ski_king
07-13-2012, 02:06 PM
I saw this one that is fairly local to me and thought about checking it out. I held off and it is listed as sold now.
http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/boa/3088501748.html

harleygirl
07-13-2012, 04:27 PM
Wow that was extremely helpful. Part of the lue is rubbed off on the port side, I believe it is the brown and cream, but the hull appears to be white. The stripe looks brown. We need to get a jitter bug on it and see whats under there. We want to keep it as origanl as possible. As soon as I figure out how to upload photos I will. Just joined yesterday, cut me some slack. :D

harleygirl
07-13-2012, 04:51 PM
Hopefully I did this right. As you can see the boat is now sitting in my driveway and not in the 18 year old kids field in the middle of the GA mountains.

SilviaMan
07-13-2012, 05:12 PM
I think before I took a sander to it I would see if a pressure washer would take off some of the paint first.
Next I would try so gelcoat friendly solvents. Not sure what can be used on the gelcoat that won't really hurt it. If it were mine I would be testing different methods on the rear under the platform.
Good luck on your project!

harleygirl
07-13-2012, 05:17 PM
I say take a snader to it because that is what I would do. I am pretty sure my hsband is gonna nix that idea. But thank you for the advice I will pass that along.

pmkkdx
07-13-2012, 07:35 PM
yep, I would try some various types of solvent or paint thinner to see if any would cut thru the majority of the addon paint before taking a sander to it. might can even take some polishing compound with an orbital buffer ... just some thoughts.

phickman
07-14-2012, 01:03 AM
Put the "jitter bug" away. You will cause more damage to the gelcoat. Go to Amazon and buy a case of AirCraft Peeler or Clear Coat /BaseCoat remover. And spray it on let it bubble up and then hit is with a pressure washer. It works..expensive but it works.

phickman
07-14-2012, 03:51 AM
You will easily have 90-100 hours in getting the paint off and wet sanding the boat to make it look right. when you wet sand put some ammonia in the water. It help as lubricant and keeps the sand paper clean. You will start with like 600 grit and move up to 2000 grit step by step. You will then have to compound, polish, and finesse it. Very time consuming. Really suck because it looks like the bottom has been painted. I look forward to seeing your progress. This is quite an undertaking without even looking at motor, transmission, floor, and stringer issues. Bring her back right. Good luck.

harleygirl
07-14-2012, 08:31 AM
That is all great advice. I will pass that along. Don't be mistaken, I am not the one doing all the work. I am just doing the research. My husband knows what he is doing. My job is to get the tools and keep the beer cold.

The motor needs all new wiring, it is old, and he is going to pull it out and rebuild it. It will turn over. One stringer needs to be redone, where the floor had rotted on the right side. Obviously it is getting a whole new floor. This is a project boat, so it will be done a little at a time. We have another boat that we just redid. Our other boat is getting its new seats today, and the new stereo next weekend. We live on the water, so we have to have one to play in while working on the other. If anyone reading this, knows for a fact of the paint schemes for a 1976 please let me know. I have the links from an earlier post. An Mastercraft is working on it as well. He cant even find a stock photo in his archive vault. This boat is older than me. I would think someone out there saw one first hand in '76. :)

Lumbergh
07-14-2012, 11:59 AM
My husband knows what he is doing. My job is to get the tools and keep the beer cold.

Welcome (should have said that the first post)...

You sound like a keeper!

phickman
07-14-2012, 03:05 PM
Several threads on here about 1976. Google Images will help a bunch. http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=26092

phickman
07-14-2012, 03:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHsu58HwimI

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-MasterCraft-Boat-Decals-6-x55-w-36-stars-/310343289092?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4841e6c904&vxp=mtr#ht_737wt_1139

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CORRECT-CRAFT-DECALS-USA-FLAG-SHIELD-SKY-NAUTIQUE-/150372445965?hash=item2302e56f0d&item=150372445965&pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_1294wt_922

phickman
07-14-2012, 03:19 PM
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=48602&page=2

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=48751

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HIDfNwDJNY&feature=related

phickman
07-14-2012, 03:26 PM
1976 pic

harleygirl
07-14-2012, 06:02 PM
These are all great links and great looking boats. I am getting conflicting informaition though. The pic above shows the green with a black pinstripe, I have been told that this paint is original to 1976. But that is the only one I can confirm. The red white and blue seems to be the most popular for after a restore, but I am not sure if that is '76 paint either. I have been told it was since that was the 200th anniversary of the United States. This has proved to be the hardest part....finding the original paint schemes to a '76. Even the guy at Mastercraft is having a hard time finding it. I have had one person tell me that rootbeer and cream was, and another guy tell me it wasn't . I AM SO CONFUSED !!!:confused:

phickman
07-14-2012, 06:16 PM
The stripe around the boat will be embedded in the gelcoat. The accent stripe is 1/2 inch tape pinstripe on the sides. The accent striping on the deck and motorbox is 1/4 inch tape pinstripe. The wide stripe will also be gelcoated into the motorbox. The accent pinstripe was often the same color as the carpet. Often in the bottom of the battery box you can find a carpet remnant that sat under the battery.

The hulls and stripe combos are numerous. Some were bicenntenial colors. I have a friend who has an off white and brown boat. Strip it down and it will be revealed

harleygirl
07-14-2012, 06:22 PM
That is the most helpful so far....I will pass that along to my husband....and I have a feeling I know what we will be doing tomorrow. I really appreciate that info.

phickman
07-14-2012, 09:31 PM
Here is a pic of my 1972 sold and titled in 1973 that I just finished. You can see how all the colors coordinate. The interior striping and decals. The only item not proper is the doghouse. I had to cover it because some knuckle head had cut four speaker holes into it. We plated them over. If it was concourse correct it would be red gel with the silver stripe three stars and the 1/4 in black pinstripe. The boat turned out excellent. Just wrapping up a few details at this point. This boat had been clear coated like a car. It was coming off and looked like it had leprosy. Folks with Spray guns loaded with automotive paint products should be careful what they spray. Leads to major work to unwind it. LOL

phickman
07-14-2012, 10:01 PM
Here is a 1975 from the threads.

phickman
07-14-2012, 10:04 PM
http://www.buyandsellboats.com/boats/for-sale/818657/

phickman
07-15-2012, 02:54 AM
http://retroboats.ca/boat_windshields.html

Do some measuring, talk to them...might have something that will work.

AZX9
07-15-2012, 01:06 PM
I would next work on that trailer. Looks like it could damage a gret deal of effort you've put into the boat.

ahhudgins
07-15-2012, 08:09 PM
If ur looking for an old fixer up'er theres one in little rock arkansas , found it just looking around tonight on craigslist ...
The gelcoat is shot but it has the windshield :D

http://littlerock.craigslist.org/bod/3094567210.html

I would love to pick that boat up, it's almost identical to my first MC. But $1600 firm? These people are nuts.

Cloaked
07-15-2012, 08:15 PM
I would love to pick that boat up, it's almost identical to my first MC. But $1600 firm? These people are nuts.
That was a nice boat when manufactured. I see reminants of the deluxe interior, etc.

SilviaMan
07-16-2012, 12:16 PM
There are a few of us on here that own '76's. I am sure we will all help you if we can.
Just like cars these boats came in many different color combo's. You would have to get that paint off in a section to see what you have as far as color combo.
I think that it will be pretty easy to get the sides of that thing stripped. I think the hard part is going to be the textured top.
If you need some pictures of anything I can take some of mine for you.

phickman
07-20-2012, 12:29 AM
So Harley what color scheme was it born with? Updated and pics please

harleygirl
07-20-2012, 08:55 AM
Don't know yet, We have been messing with our other boat. Its getting new seats and a new stereo. This will be a slow project. My husband works about 80 hours a week. Not a whole lot of time to play with 2 boats. As soon as I know I will post it for ya.