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deminimis
07-10-2012, 05:26 PM
Having had a fair amount of trouble with my Titan actuator, I've decided to swap it out for a UFP actuator. Also, my race trailer and the wife's horse trailer have 2 5/16" couplers. I've always felt that my MC trailer should also have a 2 5/16" coupler instead of a 2" coupler, given the weight. Thus, I ordered up the 2 5/16" UFP coupler. Hoping to start the cutting and welding this evening. I can tell you one thing, this bad motor scooter is stout. Way, way, way more stout than the Titan actuator it is replacing. The other big factor that makes me smile is the alumn master cylinder. The Titan has a cast steel one that rusted and was impossible to keep from rusting. Besides those improvements, another bonus is the external sleeve and internal components can be easily separated. Thus, should things go badly with the actuator, one can purchase and quickly replace the internal unit and not have to mess with the external sleeve (which will be welded in place). That's pretty dang cool. I'll post up the down-n-dirty as I make the swap, but here's a teaser anyway:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1RghqGUAyA0/T_ycvFb31QI/AAAAAAAACVw/4ygT6A6fuUY/s912/IMG_20120710_141612.jpg

waterlogged882
07-10-2012, 07:44 PM
Having had a fair amount of trouble with my Titan actuator, I've decided to swap it out for a UFP actuator. Also, my race trailer and the wife's horse trailer have 2 5/16" couplers. I've always felt that my MC trailer should also have a 2 5/16" coupler instead of a 2" coupler, given the weight. Thus, I ordered up the 2 5/16" UFP coupler. Hoping to start the cutting and welding this evening. I can tell you one thing, this bad motor scooter is stout. Way, way, way more stout than the Titan actuator it is replacing. The other big factor that makes me smile is the alumn master cylinder. The Titan has a cast steel one that rusted and was impossible to keep from rusting. Besides those improvements, another bonus is the external sleeve and internal components can be easily separated. Thus, should things go badly with the actuator, one can purchase and quickly replace the internal unit and not have to mess with the external sleeve (which will be welded in place). That's pretty dang cool. I'll post up the down-n-dirty as I make the swap, but here's a teaser anyway:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-1RghqGUAyA0/T_ycvFb31QI/AAAAAAAACVw/4ygT6A6fuUY/s912/IMG_20120710_141612.jpg

Would you consider selling me that chair?

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deminimis
07-10-2012, 07:51 PM
Nice, isn't it? Love library chairs. Love library tables even better.

waterlogged882
07-10-2012, 07:54 PM
Nice, isn't it? Love library chairs. Love library tables even better.
So does that translate to yes or no?

deminimis
07-10-2012, 08:02 PM
Negative Ghost Rider.

deminimis
07-12-2012, 12:07 PM
So cut off the old. Left the side wings (the part of the orig actuator housing that was splayed and welded) to keep the spacing correct. After doing all that work I came to realize the wings were actually crooked (more of a twist). So, just going to zip them off tonight and go that route. I'll weld the top plate in place, bolt it all together (using two bolts and proper washers to get everything just right), then tack and weld the lower plate.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-b15zCb-85j8/T_4qS8C0aaI/AAAAAAAACWI/tfbBayOZwsA/s912/IMG_20120711_183314.jpg

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-DS246DFK6Fo/T_5CiCsJowI/AAAAAAAACWU/8clslsVJLPQ/s912/IMG_20120711_193637.jpg

The 2 5/16 actuator is considerably longer than the Titan actuator it is replacing. I cut 2" off of it, which still leaves the works approx 2" longer than the previous setup, which is great.

deminimis
07-12-2012, 12:23 PM
One other thing. With the old setup, all braking force was transmitted to the swing bolt and pin. What I'm doing is positioning the actuator sleeve so it butts up tightly again the stationary trailer tongue when the swing arm is in its locked position. That way the braking force is transmitted to the blunt edges of the welded housing in addition to the bolt/pin. Can't do anything about the bolt and pin getting the stress when accelerating, but at least when braking, they don't have to carry the burden alone (not that it was ever a problem).

mikeg205
07-12-2012, 01:54 PM
Negative Ghost Rider.

the pattern is full.... :D

deminimis
07-13-2012, 01:13 AM
Top plate:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cHcaPVGLses/T_9zC09bobI/AAAAAAAACXk/ytizeU37tAw/s640/IMG_20120712_175555.jpg

Bottom plate now attached, self-etching primer and black paint (sans the internal mechanism of course):

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7zwR7bL_Nk/T_-NXEXvfWI/AAAAAAAACXw/pszVqvjvOaY/s640/IMG_20120712_194852.jpg

Bleed tomorrow and done.

deminimis
07-16-2012, 11:24 AM
All done and works great. A quick review:

Pros: Very heavy duty; smooth action; separate sleeve and internals; 2 5/16" (in my case); very high quality welds and zinc plating; alumn master cyclinder; comes with backup solenoid installed.

Cons: Can not unhook if the brake actuator is fully compressed (I now have to block my trailer wheels so I can pull forward to disengage the actuator after backing boat into my shop), break away cable exits directly in the front (can get pinched (damaged) between actuator end and hitch when backing up to the trailer if you overshoot it); the coupler socket is very deep so get ready to do a lot of cranking on the jack to get it to uncouple (in part because of the larger coupler and in part due to the deep socket -this is not necessarily a bad thing, but my factory installed Fulton jack is not up to the task.).

Despite the few foibles, it is the much needed improvement over the original Titan actuator.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yRCKDPC7aLQ/UAN6mybFvhI/AAAAAAAACYk/J1kJaCA_nG4/s912/IMG_20120715_191159.jpg

deminimis
08-01-2016, 12:03 PM
4 years on and not a single problem. Best trailer upgrade to date.

CantRepeat
08-01-2016, 12:42 PM
Yeah, I'm doing this and pads this off season.

I also like the up sizing of the balls, lol. We've got a travel trailer and jocking the balls is kind of a PITA.

deminimis
08-10-2017, 05:10 PM
Five years. Very happy.

CantRepeat
08-10-2017, 05:23 PM
Still haven't done this.

deminimis
08-10-2017, 05:35 PM
Dude.

Sodar
08-10-2017, 05:44 PM
Still haven't done this.


Seriously!?!?!?

With your fab skills, this is like an afternoon project!

bturner2
08-11-2017, 08:13 AM
Did mine with the Waymires kit along with new calipers a couple weeks back. Worst part was threading on the flex line. Past that pretty simple especially since the boat was on the lift giving me full access to the axles. I think all in I had about 4 hours into the project.

CantRepeat
08-11-2017, 08:53 AM
Seriously!?!?!?

With your fab skills, this is like an afternoon project!

Yeah, I'm still on the if it ain't broke don't fix it deal. The brakes still work atm, knock on the wood, so I've not done anything.

The "plan" is to do the tongue retro with the larger 2 5/16 ball, new rotors, bearings, seals, calipers and pads all at one time.

There's just so much BBQ to be made and couple that with all the **** beer that needs drinking and I'm flat out of time!! :D

In a word I'll get to it soon(™)