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captain planet
12-11-2009, 02:17 PM
Not true, in a playoff format they would get the winner of the Alabama/GT game.

Uh..oh yea. :o Forgot how they were situated in a bracket after 1 v 8, 2 v 7, etc.

CantRepeat
12-11-2009, 02:54 PM
http://www.ajc.com/sports/tebow-shares-special-day-237563.html

trickskier
12-13-2009, 08:07 AM
KNOXVILLE, Tenn. -- Tennessee football coach Lane Kiffin said he takes investigations of the school's recruiting practices as a compliment.

Kiffin said the strength of Tennessee's recruiting class, ranked by most analysts near the top nationally, has caused the unusual amount of interest in the Volunteers' methods, which are under investigation by the NCAA and the Southeastern Conference.

"I think when it comes to recruiting, we're at the highest level, and I think that people really want to know what we're doing," Kiffin said after practice Saturday. "They want to know how are we able to get interest from so many great players, and sign so many great players, so I think you have a lot of people coming at us."

Kiffin confirmed a report in Friday's New York Times that SEC officials are questioning Tennessee about an October recruiting trip to St. Thomas Aquinas High School in Fort Lauderdale, Fla., in which Kiffin was accompanied by recruiting intern Steve Rubio, a St. Thomas Aquinas graduate and former Vols assistant coach.

Kiffin said Rubio acts as a personal assistant on some off-campus recruiting trips, but he did not think Rubio did any recruiting at the school, which would be a violation of NCAA rules.

"I know that he [Rubio] went in there and saw some of his old teachers and saw some of his coaches. I don't know that he did [recruit] at all," Kiffin said. "I never want to say never, but I will pretty much say that he did not while I was with him. And I don't think he could have, because they were practicing during the time that he went inside, anyway."

Mike Hamilton, the school's athletic director, said Tennessee took the SEC's review, like all recruiting ethics questions, "very seriously."

Kiffin said he assumed another SEC program turned in the potential violation, since the league office -- rather than the NCAA -- contacted Tennessee about the situation.

Meanwhile, Sports Illustrated posted a photo on its Web site Friday that shows two University of Tennessee hostesses with football recruits at a South Carolina game.

The Knoxville News Sentinel reported that the women in the photo are Lacey Earps and Dahra Johnson. Both are members of Orange Pride, a group mostly comprised of female students which is responsible for entertaining recruits on campus visits, among other duties.

The New York Times first reported on Wednesday the women traveled nearly 200 miles to Duncan, S.C., on Sept. 25 to watch UT commitments Brandon Willis and Corey Miller of Byrnes High School play in a game against Gaffney.

The fathers of Willis and Miller described the female Tennessee students as friends of their sons who promised in the summer they would drive down for a game.

But the visit could be interpreted by the NCAA as an illegal off-campus recruiting trip by non-sanctioned Tennessee personnel.

Kiffin has said he is not aware of any recruiting violations and has received no official inquiry from the NCAA.

76S&S
12-14-2009, 08:45 AM
Heisman Award.

Congratulations to Mark Ingram and the University of Alabama. It's hard to believe that this is the first Heisman award for the University.

trickskier
12-14-2009, 09:44 AM
Heisman Award.

Congratulations to Mark Ingram and the University of Alabama. It's hard to believe that this is the first Heisman award for the University.

I agree, with all the tallent that has come out of Alabama it's hard to believe this is their first Heisman Award. It's also hard to believe that a sophomore has won it for the last 3 years.

east tx skier
12-14-2009, 11:25 AM
Hat's off to the guy. He's a talented player for sure.

scott023
12-14-2009, 11:51 AM
Hopefully he flies straighter than his old man did...

captain planet
12-14-2009, 12:45 PM
Looks like everyone is in cost saving mode these days!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/masturbation-university-m_n_382536.html

Monte
12-14-2009, 01:04 PM
Looks like everyone is in cost saving mode these days!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/masturbation-university-m_n_382536.html

And I thought 210 was out of college:rolleyes: Bwa hahahahahahahahaa haaa ha ha:D

captain planet
12-14-2009, 01:18 PM
And I thought 210 was out of college:rolleyes: Bwa hahahahahahahahaa haaa ha ha

:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhamme

Now....THAT is funny!!!!!

trickskier
12-14-2009, 01:35 PM
Looks like everyone is in cost saving mode these days!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/12/07/masturbation-university-m_n_382536.html

CP.................That's Hilarious!!! :D

trickskier
12-14-2009, 02:55 PM
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- As the learning specialist working with the most academically challenged athletes at Florida State, Brenda Monk was confronted each year with recruits who would seem to have little chance of surviving on a college campus. Their deficiencies were laid out in transcripts and psycho-educational reports submitted during the admissions process.

Sometimes, the athletes knew exactly what they were up against. She recalls a conversation with one such player in her office at Doak Campbell Stadium.

"You might as well know right off the bat, I can't read," he told her.

"Then how are we going to get through these college classes?" she asked.

"It's easy," he responded. "You get to read to me."

And so she did, Monk says, spending about 20 hours a week by his side, turning classroom texts into passages to be absorbed orally, and making flash cards to improve his memory. He qualified for the help, she says, because he was learning disabled, or LD.

To some, such arrangements are a recipe for abuse -- just the latest angle athletic departments use to get, and keep, marginal students eligible for competition. Indeed, Monk, who was forced to resign from FSU in 2007 after six years, is accused by the NCAA of academic fraud and unethical conduct -- accusations she has asked the NCAA Division I Infractions Appeals Committee to overturn -- for allegedly doing too much work for athletes.

But as a former special education teacher and administrator who worked with the educationally disadvantaged in the Mississippi school system, the above case highlights the benefits of recognizing learning disabilities in academically at-risk athletes. She says a diagnosis of dyslexia or some other learning disability can be the key to leveling the playing field with students who arrive on campus with superior educational backgrounds and no neurological deficits.

"It's very difficult to overcome a reading disability," says Monk, who was a principal, counselor and special education teacher in the Mississippi school system before joining FSU. "It's not something that you can just overcome. It's like blindness. You can't just go in and give someone new eyes. You can't just go in and give someone neurons that are going to connect in their brain and get rid of their learning disability."

Certainly, the NCAA and colleges like Florida State offer an array of special services and waivers to help athletes with documented learning disabilities.

The accommodations start in high school. With a documented learning disabled diagnosis, athletes can get relief from the NCAA in meeting its minimum academic requirements for initial eligibility. They can apply for approval to submit SAT or ACT scores that were acquired through "non-standard" tests in which special accommodations were provided, and use high school courses for LD students to satisfy the NCAA's core-course requirements.

Bowden has distanced himself from the violations, telling reporters, "Our university found this problem. It's not like I had anything to do with this."

The NCAA granted 527 of these waivers to incoming athletes in the 2008-09 school year, up from 310 the year before, according to NCAA spokeswoman Stacey Osburn. (There were 302 in 2006-07, 335 in 2005-06 and 338 in 2004-05.) She said more athletes are taking advantage of those waivers because in the past two years the NCAA has raised the core-course requirements (from 14 to 16 classes), and mandated that core courses be earned in the first eight semesters of high school.

If the prospective athlete still can't qualify with those adjustments in standards, the college they have signed with can apply with the NCAA for a waiver to grant eligibility anyway. Some of these waivers provide only partial relief, meaning that an athlete might receive an athletic scholarship and can participate in practice, but may not compete in games until meeting the NCAA's progress-toward-degree requirements at the end of his/her freshman year.

Once on campus, a learning disabled athlete can ask for an NCAA waiver that allows him or her to take less than a full course load (12 hours) in a given semester. And at Florida State, the athlete can be exempted from passing the state-mandated basic competency tests in math and English that all at-risk college students must take before their junior year. "A good number of athletes come through the waiver system," says Jennifer Buchanan, chair of the CLAST (College Level Academic Skills Test) Waiver Committee at FSU.

Beyond that, some learning disabled athletes drink from a fire hose of course assistance. At Florida State, classroom accommodations, such as note-takers and untimed tests, are dispensed by the campus disability center that is available to all students. But athletes also have the resources of a $1.5 million-a-year athletic academic support unit with 32 computers, private tutoring rooms and a five-station "Learning Center" for athletes with learning disabilities or deficiencies.

That's where Monk set up camp, working on papers and other assignments with what she estimates were about 65 learning disabled athletes. She tells "Outside the Lines" that more than a third of the football team, and three-quarters of the basketball team, had learning disabilities. FSU spokesman Rob Wilson did not respond to requests by "Outside the Lines" for information on the number of learning disabled athletes who were in the program when Monk left.

By comparison, experts estimate that 5 to 10 percent of the general adult population has a learning disability.

Fred Rouse, a former Seminoles receiver, attributes the prevalence of learning disabled athletes to an awareness of the resources available to those with such a diagnosis. He says some players are just lazy and looking for someone else to do their academic work.

"I think it's bull----," says Rouse, who started as a freshman in 2006. "You [as a high school athlete] have all of this time to prepare [academically] before you get to this level, and then when you get here, you play this punk role as, you know, 'I have a learning disability,' when that's not the case."

Some athletes arrived in Tallahassee with such a diagnosis, from psycho-educational evaluations conducted when they were in high school or earlier. Others, as many as 20 per year who were identified as academically at-risk, were referred by Monk after they arrived on campus to Casey Schmidt, a licensed psychologist based in Tallahassee. Schmidt evaluates these athletes for learning disabilities and is paid $800 by the athletic department for each test.

About 80 percent of the FSU athletes sent to him receive a learning disabled diagnosis, says Schmidt, who was hired after Monk arrived on campus.

Schmidt said "people aren't sophisticated enough" to tank his tests, which are cross-referenced and take the better part of a day to complete. But he concedes that he is surprised at the high rate of learning disabilities in the FSU athlete population he has evaluated. "That's a question mark I don't know how to rectify," he said.

One possible explanation is the assessment tool he uses. It's known as the "simple discrepancy" model, which looks for an imbalance between a person's IQ and educational achievement level. The FSU athletes he's evaluated, he said, often have normal or advanced IQs, but poor academic skills. In his estimation, any college student with less than a ninth-grade reading or math level is a strong candidate to meet the criteria for a learning disabled diagnosis.

Outside the Lines" and ESPN.com present a monthlong series starting this weekend that examines several hot-button issues facing the NCAA. This Sunday, Dec. 13, the series looks at Florida State University, where 61 athletes allegedly were involved in an academic-fraud scandal that included, in some cases, access to test answers and tutors who edited and typed papers. The NCAA ruled Florida State guilty of major violations, announcing it would reduce scholarships in football and other sports, and force Bobby Bowden's team to vacate as many as 14 victories from 2006 and 2007. Watch Tom Farrey's report on "Outside the Lines" at 9 a.m. ET Sunday on ESPN.

Schmidt gives them an additional, cognitive test to minimize the rate of false positives, he said.

Still, the simple discrepancy method has been criticized by some experts as unreliable. A 2003 study by Florida State researchers Briley Proctor and Frances Prevatt found that that model "diagnosed significantly more students with LD than the other three [established] models." In fact, in testing of the same set of students, the simple discrepancy model produced a learning disabled diagnosis 46.5 percent of the time, nearly twice the rate of the most conservative model.

Based on their research, Proctor and Prevatt adopted a new model in 2006 for the LD assessments done at the FSU campus facility they run, the Adult Learning Evaluation Center, which is available to all students. The athletic department continues to refer athletes off campus to Schmidt, and his diagnoses are accepted by various campus groups that process waivers and provide LD services. They are required to, by laws prohibiting discrimination against the disabled.

"There's no universally agreed upon way to do these tests," Schmidt said.

That's especially true at the college level, experts say. Most of the regulation in the area of learning disabilities occurs at the K-12 level, because that's when students typically get evaluated for learning disabilities. (Beginning in July 2010, for instance, the state of Florida will move to a new model, forcing schools to attempt to re-mediate a student's difficulties with regular services before labeling them as learning disabled.) At universities across the country, set standards for evaluations are rare -- and the NCAA provides no oversight.

Recognizing an opportunity, the Seminoles hired Monk in 2001 to work with these athletes.

"Florida State couldn't be left behind," she said. "I think they recognized the fact that there were a lot of very talented student-athletes who were maybe reluctant learners or who struggled in the classroom who were not maybe academically as prepared to come to college as they should be. And so they were looking at that population -- how do we let this talent go by? Is there some way that we can have both? Can we have the talent and can we also provide them with some kind of help so that they can remain academically eligible while they are in school?"

Monk received a glowing review in her first year on the job. As she experienced more and more success keeping at-risk athletes eligible, she says she became a tool of recruiting, with coaches and parents asking her to work with athletes with increasingly severe learning disabilities. That's when she made what she calls an error in judgment, asking one basketball player in 2007 to input the answers to an online sports psychology test for a teammate who left a hard copy of the test on her desk.

"I was exhausted, totally exhausted," she said. "I wasn't thinking clearly and made an error."

That led to a Florida State and NCAA investigation that found improprieties in the athletic academic support program. An academic adviser was implicated for telling a tutor to provide answers to exam questions in an online music course. The tutor helped 55 athletes receive fraudulent academic credit by supplying answers to that test. Monk was accused by the NCAA of creating the study guide for that test, and for providing improper typing assistance on her computer for at least three athletes. She denies that she typed papers, characterizing her role as editing their work, which she says was appropriate given the needs of some academically deficient athletes.

"There was an atmosphere in athletics, particularly academic support, that was unacceptable," FSU president T.K. Wetherell said in an NCAA hearing in 2008. Wetherell had played college football under Seminoles coach Bobby Bowden, and was an athletics academic adviser early in his career. Both he and Bowden declined to speak to "Outside the Lines."

Until her departure in 2007, Monk worked with Florida State's most academically challenged student-athletes.

No NCAA-wide survey has been conducted on the prevalence of athletes with learning disabilities, said Corrine Corte, chair of the learning committee of the National Association of Athletic Academic Advisors. At Arizona State, where she is a learning specialist, she said less than 10 percent of football and basketball players are learning disabled.

So, being proactive about athletes' learning difficulties does not have to be a recipe for abuse, Corte said. At the same time, she said she is talking with the NCAA about drawing up rules for what constitutes acceptable support when working with these athletes. FSU officials told the NCAA that Monk was not permitted to provide some of the accommodations she was supplying, a charge Monk denies. She said that offering such support was part of her job description, and her manager, as well as officials at the campus disability office, knew how she was working with them.

"She's a wonderful person," said Rouse, who didn't have a learning disability but worked with Monk in study halls. "Very, very nice lady. I think it came to a point where it was almost forced on her also to make sure these guys were passing. And in the end, she ended up getting fired."

But not before Monk felt like she made a difference in some players' lives. She looks back to the player who announced at their introduction that he couldn't read, and so she would need to read to him. She says she arranged for him to work with the most helpful tutors, and drilled with him constantly on memorization and other basic academic skills. A lot of times, she says, he would be "lying on the floor," spent from all that brainwork.

Eventually, he received a degree in sports administration from Florida State. "And it was not something anyone did for him," says Monk, now a principal at a prison school in Lake City, Fla. "He did it for himself, taking advantage of all of situations. If you would have looked at his paperwork before you ever met him, you would have said, there's no way …"

No way, that is, that someone with a grade-school reading level could graduate from a college where the average entering freshman was an honors student in high school.

"… I said there was no way," Monk said. "He proved me wrong."

TX.X-30 fan
12-14-2009, 07:51 PM
This is Florida football.....................

trickskier
12-14-2009, 07:56 PM
WOW...............What a witty comment.............8p

TX.X-30 fan
12-14-2009, 08:01 PM
WOW...............What a witty comment.............8p




It was not cut and pasted

:confused:


:D

trickskier
12-14-2009, 08:08 PM
This is Florida football.....................

It was not cut and pasted

:confused:


:D

Hard to tell...........I'm sure Vince Dooley has said this before..............:D

captain planet
12-16-2009, 12:09 PM
Brian Kelly is a scum bag and I hope he reads this (although I doubt he ever will).

How do you do what this guy has done by abandoning his team before the biggest game in the Cincinnati's Football history? This shows a complete lack of any integrity. I would think his players feel totally let down by his actions. All they did was play a perfect season for him and this is how he repays him. I wish nothing but the worst for him at Notre Dame.

scott023
12-16-2009, 12:13 PM
Brian Kelly is a scum bag and I hope he reads this (although I doubt he ever will).

How do you do what this guy has done by abandoning his team before the biggest game in the Cincinnati's Football history? This shows a complete lack of any integrity. I would think his players feel totally let down by his actions. All they did was play a perfect season for him and this is how he repays him. I wish nothing but the worst for him at Notre Dame.

Couldn't agree more. Where was the issue with staying with the team through the bowl game? 4 weeks wouldn't have made a big enough difference to ND if they really wanted him, IMO.

captain planet
12-16-2009, 12:56 PM
Now that I think about it, Fraud-riguez did the same thing to West Virginia a couple years ago. Good to see he got what he deserves for that move.

Maristar210
12-16-2009, 01:39 PM
Hey guys. If someone walked into your office and offered to increase your pay by four times and work where you have always dreamed of working how long would it take you to clean out your desk???

ND should have let him coach the bowl game but either way it was going to be a distraction. Now the ebonics spewing majcal 3 point GPA's at Cincy will have to fade back to mediocrity like Louisville did when Petrino left...

captain planet
12-16-2009, 02:40 PM
Hey guys. If someone walked into your office and offered to increase your pay by four times and work where you have always dreamed of working how long would it take you to clean out your desk???

ND should have let him coach the bowl game but either way it was going to be a distraction. Now the ebonics spewing majcal 3 point GPA's at Cincy will have to fade back to mediocrity like Louisville did when Petrino left...

It would take me exactly 2 weeks, which is viewed as the standard for letting a company know you are leaving to take another job.

Considering the circumstances of this, Brian Kelly should have told ND that he has a commitment (2009 season) to finish. If ND couldn't understand the situation, that should have been a message to Brian Kelly that their scruples don't add up. Likewise the other way, ND should now know that if another better offer comes along he is gone, regardless of where in the season they are.

We are talking about 3 weeks! He couldn't wait 3 weeks? THat's crap.

I really hate to admit this (and I mean really hate to admit), but in a way I have respect for Les Miles. He could have left for michigan, but had a commitment to lsu to complete the season. As much as I hate that smug little grin on his face, the man has some scruples.

It is for this reason I say GO LONGHORNS! Because Saban is the same kind of guy.....low morals.

Shane21
12-16-2009, 04:47 PM
What would Kelly have done if his star QB left before this bowl game to play in the NFL (I realize that would never happen, but it seems like a valid comparison)? I'm certain he would talk bad about that boy all up and down.....But fair is fair...I think it shows EXTREMELY bad integrity and I agree with CP when he said, "I wish him nothing but the worse at ND".....

scott023
12-16-2009, 04:56 PM
Hey guys. If someone walked into your office and offered to increase your pay by four times and work where you have always dreamed of working how long would it take you to clean out your desk???

ND should have let him coach the bowl game but either way it was going to be a distraction. Now the ebonics spewing majcal 3 point GPA's at Cincy will have to fade back to mediocrity like Louisville did when Petrino left...

I honestly believe that if I was in that position I would expect that my new employer let me finish the 1 game I had left with my current employer. Money or not. The only reason he got the job at ND is because of what was achieved at Cincy... no reason to not finish the job.

captain planet
12-16-2009, 05:01 PM
The guy is a low-life. The more I think about it the more pi_ _ ed I get......and I don't even follow the Bearcats!

trickskier
12-16-2009, 05:37 PM
I honestly believe that if I was in that position I would expect that my new employer let me finish the 1 game I had left with my current employer. Money or not. The only reason he got the job at ND is because of what was achieved at Cincy... no reason to not finish the job.

Probably two reasons:

1) Recruiting needs to start immediately and he can't do that if he's still coaching Cincinnati.

2) "IF" Cincinnati loses to the Gators he would be coming into Notre Dame with a loss to start his recruting rather than an unbeaten season.

BIGBADBLUE
12-16-2009, 06:13 PM
Its just the way it is in CF now. The almighty dollar rules all. The thing I hate is that he outright lied to his team right before the Pitt game. He could have at least say he did not know anything ... not that he was definately staying.

trickskier
12-16-2009, 06:21 PM
Its just the way it is in CF now. The almighty dollar rules all. The thing I hate is that he outright lied to his team right before the Pitt game. He could have at least say he did not know anything ... not that he was definately staying.

Money Talks..........BS Walks.............8p

Maristar210
12-16-2009, 06:28 PM
CP -

I don't like it either but you are being naive

GO BLUE

Forrest-X45
12-16-2009, 07:45 PM
It is my understanding from reading about the Brian Kelly’s deal with ND was he had to leave immediately and start work at ND. They would not wait for him to finish the bowl game at Cincy. Basically they were not going to wait for anyone, this is ND so if you want the job you take it now. That should have been a sign right there………another reason I dislike ND, their arrogance is appalling.

scott023
12-16-2009, 11:48 PM
Probably two reasons:

1) Recruiting needs to start immediately and he can't do that if he's still coaching Cincinnati.

2) "IF" Cincinnati loses to the Gators he would be coming into Notre Dame with a loss to start his recruting rather than an unbeaten season.

BS. The majority of recruits should have committed by now anyway. And I don't think a loss to the team that WAS raned No.1 all season would be that big of a hit in the recruits minds.

trickskier
12-17-2009, 07:08 AM
BS. The majority of recruits should have committed by now anyway. And I don't think a loss to the team that WAS raned No.1 all season would be that big of a hit in the recruits minds.

I think you need to read up on the NCAA recruiting rules............:rolleyes:

captain planet
12-17-2009, 08:56 AM
CP -

I don't like it either but you are being naive

GO BLUE

Call it what you will. If given that position I would tell ND, "if I'm your guy I'm flattered and I will report to work the day after we play Florida BECAUSE I HAVE A COMMITMENT TO MY PLAYERS TO COMPLETE THE SEASON." And if ND were to tell me they can't wait, I would tell them that I AM NOT A QUITTER and thank you anyways. I guess in the end I could look at myself in the mirror and know that I did the RIGHT thing.

It is my understanding from reading about the Brian Kelly’s deal with ND was he had to leave immediately and start work at ND. They would not wait for him to finish the bowl game at Cincy. Basically they were not going to wait for anyone, this is ND so if you want the job you take it now. That should have been a sign right there………another reason I dislike ND, their arrogance is appalling.

That's right, it's a sign their actions don't follow their reputation. They are scum bags. They should have never fired Ty Willingham, they did and now they are getting what they deserve.

WOW, I can't believe how mad I get when I think about what this guy did to his players. :rant:

BIGBADBLUE
12-17-2009, 09:34 AM
I agree ... ND would have waited if BK would have asked. He did not care about his players. period. Am I naive about this? Not at all. This is not saying he will not be good and win a lot of games, but he sure is not handling himself very well right now. ND is a christian school right? Good way to start by lying to your players and leaving them high and dry.

By the way, Rich Rod, did the same at WVU when he went to UM. I am not thrilled with RR either ... a bit slimey.

All this will pass if BK or RR win. That solves everything.

BIGBADBLUE
12-17-2009, 09:36 AM
Just a personal note ... I have gone deep into depression. UM had another losing season and is not in a bowl and the boat is winterized.

Go Blue

Maristar210
12-17-2009, 10:33 AM
So did Nick Saban. So did Bobby Petrino, so did Urban Meyer, so did a long long list list of people...

Some left eloquently. Some in the middle of the night.

Remember Bobby Petrino? That guy left a note in the players lockers.

BIGBADBLUE
12-17-2009, 10:50 AM
The thing that really stinks is that the players are left holding the bag. They have no options ... if they transfer they have a year penalty

captain planet
12-17-2009, 11:54 AM
So did Nick Saban. So did Bobby Petrino, so did Urban Meyer, so did a long long list list of people...

Some left eloquently. Some in the middle of the night.

Remember Bobby Petrino? That guy left a note in the players lockers.

Nick Saban....scum bag

Urban Meyer....scum bag and arrogant

Bobby Petrino....scum bag and coward

I don't have any respect for any of these guys. You don't do that to players that have given their all for you. You just don't.

Maristar210
12-17-2009, 12:00 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/220143-jim-tressel-the-youngstown-state-scandal-revisited

captain planet
12-17-2009, 12:28 PM
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/220143-jim-tressel-the-youngstown-state-scandal-revisited

Steve.....what does this have to do with a coach LEAVING HIS PLAYERS IN THE MIDDLE OF A SEASON for a better gig???? Nothing. I figured you would drag this up and that is fine. My point in all of this is, brian kelley has low morals and is just looking out for himself and doesn't care who gets hurt along the way, and for that I have no respect.





Good try though. :rolleyes:

Maristar210
12-17-2009, 12:43 PM
CP

You are easy to get all riled up my friend. I agree with you. I myself have called Saban a scum bag. Remember he was at Michigan State and left in the middle of the night to go to LSU and then did the same to go to the dolphins?

It's different for me because I am freinds with this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Hallock and he is real good friends with BK.

So good he had dinner at his house the night before they played Pitt. His wife and BK's wife went to college together.

He was presented with his dream job and ND made him make a poor decision. They told him take it NOW, or we keep looking.... He only had one other option and that was to turn it down because ND was not willing to wait unitl Jan 10 to settle this matter. It does create turmoil on campus when everything is up in the air like it was.

Not making excuses either, I didn't like the decision...



.

captain planet
12-17-2009, 01:08 PM
CP

You are easy to get all riled up my friend. I agree with you. I myself have called Saban a scum bag. Remember he was at Michigan State and left in the middle of the night to go to LSU and then did the same to go to the dolphins?

It's different for me because I am freinds with this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ty_Hallock and he is real good friends with BK.

So good he had dinner at his house the night before they played Pitt. His wife and BK's wife went to college together.

He was presented with his dream job and ND made him make a poor decision. They told him take it NOW, or we keep looking.... He only had one other option and that was to turn it down because ND was not willing to wait unitl Jan 10 to settle this matter. It does create turmoil on campus when everything is up in the air like it was.

Not making excuses either, I didn't like the decision...



.

It just sucks for the players and that is why I really get mad when I think about those guys. For many of them....this is it. They aren't going to the pros. And for him to put those guys in that position is selfish and in my opinion, unthinkable. Shame on nd for putting him in that position, and shame on him for taking it.


This horse is dead, I'm going to put my shovel away now. :(

scott023
12-17-2009, 01:51 PM
I think you need to read up on the NCAA recruiting rules............:rolleyes:

The rules are one thing Trick, what actually happens is another. You should know that being a fan of the SEC. Also, if you think the 2 or 3 weeks would make that big of a difference in the recruiting class for ND I think you're nuts.

bcampbe7
12-17-2009, 05:14 PM
Would a mod please delete all the Canadian posts in this thread? Should they really have a say in this matter? :D

scott023
12-17-2009, 05:26 PM
Would a mod please delete all the Canadian posts in this thread? Should they really have a say in this matter? :D

Beau, I would like to tell you where to go, but this isn't the place. Go to a different forum that accepts conduct unbecoming of a member and we'll hash things out there. :D:D:D

bcampbe7
12-17-2009, 05:29 PM
Beau, I would like to tell you where to go, but this isn't the place. Go to a different forum that accepts conduct unbecoming of a member and we'll hash things out there. :D:D:D

Was it something I said? :D

scott023
12-17-2009, 05:40 PM
Was it something I said? :D

What gave you that idea?

trickskier
12-17-2009, 09:09 PM
The rules are one thing Trick, what actually happens is another. You should know that being a fan of the SEC. Also, if you think the 2 or 3 weeks would make that big of a difference in the recruiting class for ND I think you're nuts.

Three weeks makes a lot of difference when you have a very limited amount of visits and contacts a coach can make in a very limited time frame. Especially when trying to cover 48 States. To give you an example I was in West Palm Beach the Monday after Thanksgiving and Jim Tressel was sitting in the lobby of the Marriott.

atlfootr
12-18-2009, 07:06 AM
In case anyone's interested ...
http://mjpurpleaces.blogspot.com/2009/12/football-coaching-quotes.html

captain planet
12-18-2009, 12:17 PM
Three weeks makes a lot of difference when you have a very limited amount of visits and contacts a coach can make in a very limited time frame. Especially when trying to cover 48 States. To give you an example I was in West Palm Beach the Monday after Thanksgiving and Jim Tressel was sitting in the lobby of the Marriott.

Was he wearing the Sweater Vest?

So let me guess.....you walked over to him and did that GAY freaking 'gaytor chomp' in his face and walked away. :rolleyes:

trickskier
12-18-2009, 01:39 PM
Three weeks makes a lot of difference when you have a very limited amount of visits and contacts a coach can make in a very limited time frame. Especially when trying to cover 48 States. To give you an example I was in West Palm Beach the Monday after Thanksgiving and Jim Tressel was sitting in the lobby of the Marriott.

Was he wearing the Sweater Vest?

So let me guess.....you walked over to him and did that GAY freaking 'gaytor chomp' in his face and walked away. :rolleyes:

Yes, he was wearing his GAY sweater vest...........I just said morning coach, please don't take all of our fine Florida athletes............8p

bbymgr
12-18-2009, 03:25 PM
Yes, he was wearing his GAY sweater vest...........I just said morning coach, please don't take all of our fine Florida athletes............8p

You should have told him that U of F was going to change its name to "THE" University of Florida".:D:D

scott023
12-18-2009, 05:40 PM
Yes, he was wearing his GAY sweater vest...........I just said morning coach, please don't take all of our fine Florida athletes............8p

Oh no... I tought there was to be no gay talk.

Maristar210
12-18-2009, 05:46 PM
Yeah you can't say gay just like you can't call Urban Meyer a DOUCHEbag

trickskier
12-18-2009, 05:52 PM
You should have told him that U of F was going to change its name to "THE" University of Florida".:D:D

Now that would have been funny!!! :D

flipper
12-18-2009, 06:39 PM
Yeah you can't say gay just like you can't call Urban Meyer a DOUCHEbag
We can't tell the truth anymore?:confused:

TX.X-30 fan
12-18-2009, 06:58 PM
I like sweater vests.....................

flipper
12-18-2009, 07:04 PM
I like sweater vests.....................
well there's a shocker:D

Footin
12-18-2009, 07:34 PM
Yes, he was wearing his GAY sweater vest...........I just said morning coach, please don't take all of our fine Florida athletes............8p

You didn't bow down to him?????

trickskier
12-18-2009, 08:04 PM
You didn't bow down to him?????

No, he bowed to me :worthy:..................He was in my backyard, I wasn't in his...............:D

trickskier
12-18-2009, 08:52 PM
I like sweater vests.....................

I'll bet you have a closet full of them.................:rolleyes:

TX.X-30 fan
12-19-2009, 12:27 AM
I'll bet you have a closet full of them.................:rolleyes:




Now that does seem funny, I would not normally bring that up>

captain planet
12-21-2009, 08:58 AM
Now that would have been funny!!! :D

You should have told him that U of F was going to change its name to "THE" University of Florida".:D:D

A term coined by a future NFL Hall of Famer, Chris Carter.....laugh all you want.

What does Chris Carter do? CATCHES TOUCHDOWNS!!!!

scott023
12-21-2009, 01:58 PM
The Gators will be without Brandon James for the Sugar Bowl... looks like the Bearcats advantage has increased again. :D

trickskier
12-21-2009, 07:14 PM
Yes, but Carlos Dunlap has been cleared to play.............:D

captain planet
12-22-2009, 11:16 AM
Yes, but Carlos Dunlap has been cleared to play.............:D

Did his parole officer say it was OK? You know, the NCAA has rules about playing with those tracking devices around the ankles. 8p

trickskier
12-22-2009, 09:16 PM
Did his parole officer say it was OK? 8p

You'll have to ask Urban that question.................8p

D3skier
12-22-2009, 11:18 PM
looks like BYU opened up a can of whoop a$$ on Oregon State tonight....

I hope Utah can do the same tomorrow against Cali

jdl xstar
12-24-2009, 04:54 PM
Go SMU Mustangs tonight vs UNLV in Hawaii! ESPN 8 pm est

This is SMU's first bowl appearane since getting slapped with the "death penalty" 25 years ago. Without a doubt, cancelling the football program for 2 years (actual penalty was 1 year and SMU self imposed another) was the stiffest punishment handed down by the NCAA. Other programs have had just as serious infractions (Miami early 90's) but the NCAA learned that cancelling a program is just too severe as its after effects are too long and painful for any university to endure as we saw with SMU's experience.

June Jones has helped resurect this program in just his 2nd year as head coach. Biggest turn around in college football this year by going 7-5 after two consecutive 1-11 seasons. Hopefully 8-5 after tonight.

53997

Shane21
12-24-2009, 08:40 PM
SMU looks like a powerhouse so far....but there's still 3 more quarters to play....

D3skier
12-25-2009, 12:28 AM
looks like SMU just ran them over then cruised in the 2nd half

Maristar210
12-25-2009, 10:04 AM
I picked Nevada. Dumb me.:o

scott023
12-25-2009, 05:13 PM
I picked Nevada. Dumb me.:o

X2... should've went with my gut...

trickskier
12-28-2009, 07:00 PM
Leach suspended after player complaint.

LUBBOCK, Texas -- Texas Tech coach Mike Leach has been suspended while the school investigates complaints from a player and his family about treatment after an injury.

The school said in a release Monday defensive coordinator Ruffin McNeill will be the interim coach and lead the team in the Valero Alamo Bowl on Jan. 2 against Michigan State. McNeill will remain in charge of the team until the investigation is complete.

The player, Adam James, is a redshirt sophomore wide receiver for the Red Raiders and the son of ESPN college football analyst Craig James.

Sources told ESPN's Joe Schad that the Jameses felt Adam was treated inappropriately by Leach because he was unable to practice after a mild concussion. A source close to the James family told Schad that Leach directed a trainer to confine him to an equipment room for three hours and, days later, told a trainer to place James in an electrical closet. An attorney for Leach said that while James was secluded twice, the circumstances were not as portrayed by the James family.

"Mr. and Mrs. James took the step with great regret and after consideration and prayer to convey to the Texas Tech administration that their son had been subjected to actions and treatment not consistent with common sense rules for safety and health," the family said in a statement released on Monday.

The statement went on to say they felt the matter was important to "protect all the fine young men involved in Tech football and the University's reputation for developing and educating young men and women.

"Over the past year, there has been a greatly enhanced recognition of the dangers of concussions and the potential for long term physical damage to players. At virtually every level of football coaching, cases where children and young men have sustained concussions have generated serious discussion of the importance of correct treatment and diagnosis."

The Red Raiders went 8-4 this season.

Leach did not immediately return a call or a text message from The Associated Press seeking comment. A message left on McNeill's cell phone was not immediately returned.

There's been internal strife this season with the Red Raiders and Leach has resorted to some tongue-lashing.

He chastised players after a loss to Texas A&M in October for listening to "their fat little girlfriends," and thinking the Aggies were a pushover. And after the Red Raiders' loss at then-No. 12 Houston in September, Leach suspended indefinitely starting offensive lineman Brandon Carter for violating team rules.

The loss to the Cougars was the second straight for the Red Raiders, who had fallen 34-24 at No. 2 Texas in an early Big 12 matchup. This season is the first since 2002 -- Leach's third season -- that the Red Raiders dropped two of their first four games.

That same week Leach banned his players from having Twitter pages after linebacker Marlon Williams asked on his account why he was still in a meeting room when "the head coach can't even be on time."

TX.X-30 fan
12-28-2009, 07:06 PM
I like what he did, screw all these players and their pu$$y *** parents.

trickskier
12-28-2009, 07:32 PM
I like what he did, screw all these players and their pu$$y *** parents.

I'm sure you would feel the same way if this had been a Florida Football Team.............:rolleyes:

trickskier
12-28-2009, 07:58 PM
Hey yellow78.... It's comments like these, in case you were wondering. This is what I was talking about. See how he brings the problems to himself?

LOL.............OH PLEASE.............It doesn't matter what I post you and steward jump down my throat...........But after considering the source it doesn't bother me............8p

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:06 PM
Tricky, I hear Urban is interviewing for an asst. coach job at Ohio State, he considers this a promotion.

TX.X-30 fan
12-28-2009, 08:06 PM
I'm sure you would feel the same way if this had been a Florida Football Team.............:rolleyes:




All I meant was we have 1 side of the story, and they want to fillet the guy over a famous 2nd year red shirted guys son. Just might be that he did not want to listen to the coaches and was being a giant prima donna. I have no dog in the hunt just hate to see him skewered because of some snot nose 20 yr. old.

Monte
12-28-2009, 08:08 PM
Hey yellow78.... It's comments like these, in case you were wondering. This is what I was talking about. See how he brings the problems to himself?

Scott, Tricky is solid stand up guy that I am proud to consider a friend. The guy would give somebody the shirt off his back. Why do you feel the need to patronize him. I don't feel that it adds one good thing to this forum. He catches or has caught enough grief over the Gators (including two stolen hats:rolleyes:) ) to deserve throwing some jabs of his own.

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:09 PM
Tricky, I hear Urban is interviewing for an asst. coach job at Ohio State, he considers this a promotion.

Yeah, Tressell just wants his playbook..............:D

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 08:10 PM
Hey yellow78.... It's comments like these, in case you were wondering. This is what I was talking about. See how he brings the problems to himself?

I dont know what to say Scott. Trick never bashed a team.

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:11 PM
Scott, Tricky is solid stand up guy that I am proud to consider a friend. The guy would give somebody the shirt off his back. Why do you feel the need to patronize him. I don't feel that it adds one good thing to this forum. He catches or has caught enough grief over the Gators (including two stolen hats:rolleyes:) ) to deserve throwing some jabs of his own.

Thanks Bert!!! :D

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 08:15 PM
Scott, You and some of the other guy's need to come down to Carolina spring madness and find out that Trick is a nice guy, and you would probably enjoy hanging out with him.:)

Monte
12-28-2009, 08:17 PM
Thanks Bert!!! :D

And I had nothing to do with the stealing of the hats:rolleyes:;):D

SkiDog
12-28-2009, 08:19 PM
And I had nothing to do with the stealing of the hats:rolleyes:;):D

Hats! What stinkin hats? What chu talkin bout?:confused:

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:19 PM
And I had nothing to do with the stealing of the hats:rolleyes:;):D

No, that would be Buckeye Norm...................:D

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 08:20 PM
And I had nothing to do with the stealing of the hats:rolleyes:;):D

Please. I don't believe that for one minute.

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:20 PM
He is a hat thief!

Monte
12-28-2009, 08:22 PM
He is a hat thief!

No that is Knox.. Wait it is Tricky.. well Eddie may have had something to do with it:confused::rolleyes:

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:23 PM
It was Tricky that defaced that beautiful work of art!:D

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:25 PM
He is a hat thief!

You must be talking about dog............:D

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:25 PM
I know it was you........eighty-eight fingers.

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:26 PM
You think Andy likes the picture of his boat below?

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:28 PM
It was Tricky that defaced that beautiful work of art!:D

Dog took it and handed me a smoking gun..................8p


54081

Monte
12-28-2009, 08:33 PM
Dog took it and handed me a smoking gun..................8p


54081

Dog wouldn't do that8p

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:33 PM
That photo pains me. I will get you back Trick Man. :D:D:D

Monte
12-28-2009, 08:34 PM
You think Andy likes the picture of his boat below?

He loves it.. He may convert just so he can match that in real life;)

trickskier
12-28-2009, 08:42 PM
That photo pains me. I will get you back Trick Man. :D:D:D

It pains me to have it in my house.................:D

Footin
12-28-2009, 08:43 PM
It pains me to have it in my house.................:D

I would think it classes up the place.

SkiDog
12-28-2009, 08:47 PM
Listen, why ya'll gotta keep accusing me of hat thievery? I would NEVER do such a thing!8p

SkiDog
12-28-2009, 08:47 PM
BTW, did the Dogs win tonight?:confused: What a boring game!:(

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 08:56 PM
QUOTE=SkiDog;650131]BTW, did the Dogs win tonight?:confused: What a boring game!:([/QUOTE]

It was boring in a good way. I believe that put's UGA at #4 in all time bowl wins.

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:13 PM
Listen, why ya'll gotta keep accusing me of hat thievery? I would NEVER do such a thing!8p

Well, I didn't steal my own hat..................8p

Monte
12-28-2009, 09:14 PM
Well, I didn't steal my own hat..................8p

I think it is a conspiracy;):D

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:15 PM
BTW, did the Dogs win tonight?:confused: What a boring game!:(



It was boring in a good way. I believe that put's UGA at #4 in all time bowl wins.

Congratulations to the Dawgs...............They looked good tonight!!! :D

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:17 PM
I think it is a conspiracy;):D

Yeah, dogs conspiracy................He steal's them and hands it off...............Smoking gun I tell ya!!!

Monte
12-28-2009, 09:18 PM
Yeah, dogs conspiracy................He steal's them and hands it off...............Smoking gun I tell ya!!!

Hell, I thought Knox took it.. :rolleyes:

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:20 PM
Hell, I thought Knox took it.. :rolleyes:

Nope - but we were on his boat at the time.............8p

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 09:22 PM
Maybe you should wear a FSU hat this year.

Monte
12-28-2009, 09:23 PM
Maybe you should wear a FSU hat this year.

Who wants that:confused:

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 09:24 PM
If Atlfooter showed up?

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:30 PM
Maybe you should wear a FSU hat this year.

LOL.............Have you been drinking??? 8p

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:31 PM
If Atlfooter showed up?

Then dog can steal his hat too.............:D

Monte
12-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Then dog can steal his hat too.............:D

Makes me glad I don't wear a hat:D

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 09:32 PM
Maybe the Peacock stole your hat.

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:33 PM
Maybe the Peacock stole your hat.

Peacock - Skidog - One in the same. I checked their IP Address............;)

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:34 PM
Makes me glad I don't wear a hat:D

You have hair............:D

DemolitionMan
12-28-2009, 09:36 PM
The hat does match his feathers.

Monte
12-28-2009, 09:46 PM
The hat does match his feathers.

Just imagine what is on tricky's hat:rolleyes: peacock semen8p

trickskier
12-28-2009, 09:51 PM
Just imagine what is on tricky's hat:rolleyes: peacock semen8p

Well at least it's not seagull poop...........:uglyhamme

Monte
12-28-2009, 10:01 PM
Well at least it's not seagull poop...........:uglyhamme

I don't know Trick. Tomatoe tomato :rolleyes:

scott023
12-28-2009, 10:15 PM
Scott, You and some of the other guy's need to come down to Carolina spring madness and find out that Trick is a nice guy, and you would probably enjoy hanging out with him.:)

I don't doubt that he is a stand up guy... I simply stated he makes comments (like the one I pointed out) that create backlash from some. I personally fail to see where I jumped down his throat.

SkiDog
12-29-2009, 09:27 AM
Who is Steward?

You mean Stuart?


And Yes Rick you bring this sh9t on yourself because you can never keep your obnoxious mouth shut. You wonder why people get pissed at you. Its because you always have a double standard. It's okay for you to comment on someone elses, team, wife , daughter. But god forbid anyone should do the same to you. Your easy pickins

Have a good day... :D

Now isn't THAT the pot calling the kettle black. I don't think Rick holds the title 'Resident A-hole. I thought that was YOUR title.:confused::D

Maristar210
12-29-2009, 09:38 AM
I mean in this thread Eddie. The fooker bleeds gator blue.

Hi Rick :wavey:

SkiDog
12-29-2009, 09:45 AM
I mean in this thread Eddie. The fooker bleeds gator blue.

Hi Rick :wavey:

10-4! he does get a little testy over his beloved gayters, don't he?:D They had or are having a special on Jax. TV this week on the Leaving of a legend, Tim Tebow. I say good riddance:D

trickskier
12-29-2009, 10:19 AM
If you get upset because I'm a Gator fan.................So be it............:D

trickskier
12-29-2009, 10:20 AM
I mean in this thread Eddie. The fooker bleeds gator blue.

Hi Rick :wavey:

Can't get to the thread.

DemolitionMan
12-29-2009, 10:39 AM
I don't doubt that he is a stand up guy... I simply stated he makes comments (like the one I pointed out) that create backlash from some. I personally fail to see where I jumped down his throat.

Does this mean we will see you at CSM 10 this year.:D

scott023
12-29-2009, 10:46 AM
Does this mean we will see you at CSM 10 this year.:D

I doubt it... too many other trips planned.:D

scott023
12-29-2009, 10:49 AM
I mean in this thread Eddie. The fooker bleeds gator blue.

Hi Rick :wavey:

The link doesn't work Steve...

SkiDog
12-29-2009, 11:21 AM
I doubt it... too many other trips planned.:D

Damn Cornadien can't get south of the border!:D:uglyhamme

scott023
12-29-2009, 11:42 AM
Damn Cornadien can't get south of the border!:D:uglyhamme

Oh, I`ll be south of the border... Mexico, Cuba and Vegas (maybe twice). :D

TX.X-30 fan
12-29-2009, 01:52 PM
Oh, I`ll be south of the border... Mexico, Cuba and Vegas (maybe twice). :D


Cuba................... what Canada not socialist enough for you?? 8p



Grab me a couple Cohiba's

Maristar210
12-29-2009, 01:54 PM
Cuba................... what Canada not socialist enough for you?? 8p



Grab me a couple Cohiba's

Yeah me too ya pr ick. Say hi to Fidel and grab me wonna them Cuban girls

scott023
12-29-2009, 02:20 PM
Cuba................... what Canada not socialist enough for you?? 8p



Grab me a couple Cohiba's

The wife and kids picked it... I wanted to go Bora Bora.

scott023
12-29-2009, 02:21 PM
Yeah me too ya pr ick. Say hi to Fidel and grab me wonna them Cuban girls

You've got yourself a great looking wife... no need for Cubans. :D

TX.X-30 fan
12-29-2009, 02:29 PM
Cuba looks like the day he took over, 1950 something. I would not consider that a vacation.

TX.X-30 fan
12-29-2009, 02:30 PM
Put your foot down man!!! Don't step on the pup either.

scott023
12-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Cuba looks like the day he took over, 1950 something. I would not consider that a vacation.

The resorts don't look bad...

scott023
12-29-2009, 03:54 PM
Put your foot down man!!! Don't step on the pup either.

I'm still working on it... how's the plans for Vegas coming along?

atlfootr
12-30-2009, 09:58 AM
:noface: Not a vacation thread.
Now get back to actually titled topic :D

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 10:14 AM
Getting back on topic. Miami really disappointed me last night. Not that I am a Miami fan, but I did pick them to win.:(

scott023
12-30-2009, 10:29 AM
:noface: Not a vacation thread.
Now get back to actually titled topic :D

Maybe... we'll see.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 11:24 AM
Getting back on topic. Miami really disappointed me last night. Not that I am a Miami fan, but I did pick them to win.:(

I was disappointed in Miami's performance as well. I believe they will be strong next year!!!

point1234
12-30-2009, 12:34 PM
Wisconsin played a great game start to finish. Well not really the start of the game. If it wasn't for the fumble by Graham and a tip pass for an interception the score would look a lot different.

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 01:15 PM
Mike Leach just got fired because Adam James and his daddy Craig decided he was being to harsh on poor Adam who was described by his teammates as lazy, defiant, deceitful and lackadasical.

Guy was 84-43 over ten years and this whiney little ****er and hih helocopter dad got him fired !

Shame !!!!

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 01:45 PM
You never know, until it is your child and you are put in that situation. Just know it is the doctors job to treat the player's not the coach.

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 01:53 PM
Read the TT teammate comments on CBSSportsline.com
The kids a whiner lazy pain in the *** and twenty of his fellow football players said so...

Sad

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 02:05 PM
I read that. I do think the university may have over reacted. They will probably settle with him for a large sum of money.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 02:08 PM
Leach's firing had nothing to do about James being lazy, defiant, deceitful or lackadasical. He was fired because of the way he treated James. According to reports on ESPN this is not Leach's first dance with controversial treatment / punishment of players.

If James wasn't a team player all Leach had to do was bench him and he would still have his job.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 02:10 PM
Wisconsin played a great game start to finish. Well not really the start of the game. If it wasn't for the fumble by Graham and a tip pass for an interception the score would look a lot different.

I agree, Wisconsin did play a great game..........:D

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 02:11 PM
Good point Trick. I believe he will get another job offer real soon.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 02:17 PM
Good point Trick. I believe he will get another job offer real soon.

I heard Richt asked for his phone number.......................J/K :D

point1234
12-30-2009, 02:22 PM
I think that this kind of stinks for the kids playing in the bowl games This will be the third bowl game that is going to have coaching issues. Coach Meyer situation is a little different being it a health issue. Wish him and his family the best of luck.

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 02:34 PM
There is way more to it than you seem to know Rick. There always is.

Craig James seems to have the University Regents on a string and I have some folks that seem to know that is very true.

In the end it looks to me liked he was made to stand in an unlocked room because he was a whiney little b itch and that cost the coach his job.

Meanwhile the projected draft staus of the self fulfilled idiot who thinks he should start is ZERO.

Read up before going off and see for yourself. If most of your teammate hate your a$$, theres a reason.

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 02:36 PM
Additionally. If I were that kid and his dad I would fear for my safety.

Those Texas Tech'rs who loved Leach will be very nasty towards him.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 03:17 PM
There is way more to it than you seem to know Rick. There always is.

Craig James seems to have the University Regents on a string and I have some folks that seem to know that is very true.

In the end it looks to me liked he was made to stand in an unlocked room because he was a whiney little b itch and that cost the coach his job.

Meanwhile the projected draft staus of the self fulfilled idiot who thinks he should start is ZERO.

Read up before going off and see for yourself. If most of your teammate hate your a$$, theres a reason.

I didn't go off...........I simply said that all Leach had to do was bench the kid and he would still have his job.

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 03:19 PM
We need a DC not a OC. :D

bbymgr
12-30-2009, 03:20 PM
Read the TT teammate comments on CBSSportsline.com
The kids a whiner lazy pain in the *** and twenty of his fellow football players said so...

Sad

If those other "whiner lazy pain in the ***" kids say this, then it MUST be true. It is truly amazing how much you "seem" to know when you are 1200 miles away and not a fan or booster of the University.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 03:20 PM
We need a DC not a OC. :D

My mistake.................:rolleyes:

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 07:56 PM
If those other "whiner lazy pain in the ***" kids say this, then it MUST be true. It is truly amazing how much you "seem" to know when you are 1200 miles away and not a fan or booster of the University.

Those comments are public record \

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 08:00 PM
You and tricky should both hang together - you both know it all

TX.X-30 fan
12-30-2009, 08:05 PM
If those other "whiner lazy pain in the ***" kids say this, then it MUST be true. It is truly amazing how much you "seem" to know when you are 1200 miles away and not a fan or booster of the University.




How the he!! do you know, I'm a few hundred miles away. The kid is a ***** along with his over-rated daddy................... the school is screwed for doing this and will end up paying out his contract as well as the dude that replaces him.

You libs love to spout shiat. :smile:

TX.X-30 fan
12-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Leach's firing had nothing to do about James being lazy, defiant, deceitful or lackadasical. He was fired because of the way he treated James. According to reports on ESPN this is not Leach's first dance with controversial treatment / punishment of players.

If James wasn't a team player all Leach had to do was bench him and he would still have his job.

As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 08:12 PM
As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

Sorry Trick - You and Best Buy are smoking crack again. READ what his teammates said. READ What the coaches have said. The guys a puss and you feel the need to hold his hand. Well if so then your a puss too

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

TX.X-30 fan
12-30-2009, 08:23 PM
I think that narrows it down a bit............................................... ...... HAAAAAAAAAAA

SkiDog
12-30-2009, 08:36 PM
I think that narrows it down a bit............................................... ...... HAAAAAAAAAAA

When you get right down to it..... Does all this really mean ****? Ya'll need somrthing to do.

Monte
12-30-2009, 08:37 PM
As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

Wait? You were at an Obama rally:rolleyes:

Maristar210
12-30-2009, 08:43 PM
Trickskier said Stu and I have no life so I guess....YES

justinglow
12-30-2009, 08:43 PM
How the he!! do you know, I'm a few hundred miles away. The kid is a ***** along with his over-rated daddy................... the school is screwed for doing this and will end up paying out his contract as well as the dude that replaces him.

You libs love to spout shiat. :smile:

Agree. Craig James lives in the city right next to me. He is known by everyone to be an arrogant SOB. His kid was a whiny sh!t that thought he was better than he was. Craig James was known to make weekly phone calls to Tech to complain about his sons playing time.

He is really screwed now. They will more than likely have to move and transfer. Leach was a great coach and did a lot for that program.

Would not want to be Adam James right now.........

Monte
12-30-2009, 08:47 PM
Would not want to be Adam James right now.........

That is fact...

trickskier
12-30-2009, 08:51 PM
Trickskier said Stu and I have no life so I guess....YES

Where did I ever say that??? You & steward are always adding words that aren't there.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 08:51 PM
I heard on the local sports radio that some people in Lubbock have already posted his address and phone # on facebook pages.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 08:52 PM
Where did I ever say that??? You & steward are always adding words that aren't there.

I thought it was Stuart?

trickskier
12-30-2009, 08:53 PM
As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

You don't know much about coaching..............8p

Monte
12-30-2009, 08:58 PM
I heard on the local sports radio that some people in Lubbock have already posted his address and phone # on facebook pages.

Surely he and his father thought out the whole "Son, you may get your @$$ kicked over this one":rolleyes:

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:01 PM
As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

How is it that Craig James went to SMU but had the pull at TT to cram his son down Mike Leach's throat?

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:01 PM
Surely he and his father thought out the whole "Son, you may get your @$$ kicked over this one":rolleyes:

You would hope so. I really don't think they thought they were going to get him fired. Just said on the news Leach was due a $800,000 bonus tomorrow. That's gotta hurt.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:03 PM
How is it that Craig James went to SMU but had the pull at TT to cram his son down Mike Leach's throat?

Maybe had something to do with him working at ESPN also? Just guessing.

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:04 PM
TT did not want Leach any way. So I think that this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:06 PM
TT did not want Leach any way. So I think that this was just the straw that broke the camel's back.

You're right............From what ESPN reports TT was not happy with the way he handled his contract negotiations.

Monte
12-30-2009, 09:09 PM
You're right............From what ESPN reports TT was not happy with the way he handled his contract negotiations.

He flagrantly(sp?) looked into other contracts on a regular basis as well(ESPN)

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:09 PM
I know the were upset with him for interviewing with Washington and not letting them know.

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:13 PM
Well at least Leach didn't punch a player when he got knocked out of bounds.:D

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:14 PM
He flagrantly(sp?) looked into other contracts on a regular basis as well(ESPN)

Yes - That too.........

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:15 PM
You and tricky should both hang together - your both know it all as ses

How the he!! do you know, I'm a few hundred miles away. The kid is a ***** along with his over-rated daddy................... the school is screwed for doing this and will end up paying out his contract as well as the dude that replaces him.

You libs love to spout shiat. :smile:

As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

Sorry Trick - You and Best Buy are smoking crack again. READ what his teammates said. READ What the coaches have said. The guys a puss and you feel the need to hold his hand. Well if so then your a puss too

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I think that narrows it down a bit............................................... ...... HAAAAAAAAAAA


You boyz are on a roll tonight..............:D

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:18 PM
If TX and 210 are on here, who is running HELL right now.:D

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:21 PM
If TX and 210 are on here, who is running HELL right now.:D

Good question............:confused:

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:28 PM
As usual this is amazingly far from the truth, very simplistic logic on your part. This division 2 player was crammed down his throat. I knew I saw you and bbmgr at the last obama rally.......... :D

And where's your proof to back it up???

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:29 PM
And where's your proof to back it up???

It's been said on DFW sports radio all day

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:31 PM
How did he get crammed down his throat?

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:31 PM
It's been said on DFW sports radio all day

So are they saying Leach was forced to play him? ESPN has said nothing of this.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:34 PM
So are they saying Leach was forced to play him? ESPN has said nothing of this.

Live in Dallas? I do. I have heard it all day.

Monte
12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
How did he get crammed down his throat?

Politics I am sure

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
Live in Dallas? I do. I have heard it all day.

You know I don't live anywhere near Dallas. So how could I have heard any of that? And where's their proof?

I'll stick to what I originally said: If Leach had benched him he would still be the Head Coach. Taking matters into his own hands was wrong and the TT must have seen at that way too. They wouldn't have fired him without just cause.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:39 PM
So are they saying Leach was forced to play him? ESPN has said nothing of this.

Here is some more PROOF for you.

Texas Tech continues to investigate a complaint from Adam James and his family, but Mike Leach backers wonder why he was suspended before the investigation was complete. "They never even told him why he was suspended," a source said. "There's nothing more to investigate. The source said Craig James has been "hounding these coaches at Texas Tech - not just Mike - all year" for more playing time for Adam James. "They suspended him because a family is upset about the kid's playing time," the source said. "That's what it is. [Leach] didn't do anything wrong with this kid. "James wanted Mike, No. 1, to promise that his son would be a starter next year, which you can't do." Craig James did not return a telephone call seeking comment.

Fort Worth Star-Telegram

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 09:40 PM
Found this...............Tech football coach Mike Leach was suspended for ordering a player to stand in shed at the Tech football practice facility for two hours, then repeating the punishment two days later because he felt the player was faking an injury that happened during practice on Dec. 16, the Avalanche-Journal has learned.
A source told the A-J Leach did not dispute the facts, brought to the university’s attention by the player and his parent.
Leach had until Monday to write an apology and when he did not, the university felt it had to take action.
“This was not taken lightly,” the source said, adding that Leach did not show any signs of remorse or did not say he wouldn’t do it again.
The player suffered a concussion at practice on Dec. 16 and Leach thought the player was faking.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:41 PM
Here is some more PROOF for you.

Texas Tech continues to investigate a complaint from Adam James and his family, but Mike Leach backers wonder why he was suspended before the investigation was complete. "They never even told him why he was suspended," a source said. "There's nothing more to investigate. The source said Craig James has been "hounding these coaches at Texas Tech - not just Mike - all year" for more playing time for Adam James. "They suspended him because a family is upset about the kid's playing time," the source said. "That's what it is. [Leach] didn't do anything wrong with this kid. "James wanted Mike, No. 1, to promise that his son would be a starter next year, which you can't do." Craig James did not return a telephone call seeking comment.

Fort Worth Star-Telegram

He was recovering from a concussion - He wasn't cleared to play.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:42 PM
You know I don't live anywhere near Dallas. So how could I have heard any of that? And where's their proof?

I'll stick to what I originally said: If Leach had benched him he would still be the Head Coach. Taking matters into his own hands was wrong and the TT must have seen at that way too. They wouldn't have fired him without just cause.

You were the one saying you have heard nothing about this. I am telling you I live here and what I hear. Do I question you about Florida?

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:43 PM
He was recovering from a concussion - He wasn't cleared to play.

That has nothing to do with what I posted? You wanted proof about being forced to play someone he didn't want to. Come on man stay on the same page.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
You were the one saying you have heard nothing about this. I am telling you I live here and what I hear. Do I question you about Florida?

OK - But read the article Yellow78 just posted.

Please answer this: Would Leach still be head coach if he had just benched James??? That's all I've said!!! Others have added things that I did not say!!! And called me names for it???

Monte
12-30-2009, 09:46 PM
Found this...............Tech football coach Mike Leach was suspended for ordering a player to stand in shed at the Tech football practice facility for two hours, then repeating the punishment two days later because he felt the player was faking an injury that happened during practice on Dec. 16, the Avalanche-Journal has learned.
A source told the A-J Leach did not dispute the facts, brought to the university’s attention by the player and his parent.
Leach had until Monday to write an apology and when he did not, the university felt it had to take action.
“This was not taken lightly,” the source said, adding that Leach did not show any signs of remorse or did not say he wouldn’t do it again.
The player suffered a concussion at practice on Dec. 16 and Leach thought the player was faking.

I just have to wonder, where are the doctors? Was there some proof of the injury?

justinglow
12-30-2009, 09:47 PM
Possibly. Who knows how much pull Craig James had there though. To let a coach like Leach go...I just don't know.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 10:01 PM
Possibly. Who knows how much pull Craig James had there though. To let a coach like Leach go...I just don't know.

From what I hear TT is trying to get out of paying him any severance.

justinglow
12-30-2009, 10:03 PM
Local news channel just reported that Leach will more than likely be renamed the head coach. Will have to see if it pans out. I don't see how that would work? Would provably save Adam James a$$ though.

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 10:16 PM
All he had to do was wright a apology.

trickskier
12-30-2009, 10:34 PM
Did anyone see the Bowling Green - Idaho game? What a finish!!! Idaho down 7 points with 32 seconds to go in the game and Idaho scores in 3 plays!!! And wins with a 2 point conversion!!! Doesn't get much better!!!

DemolitionMan
12-30-2009, 10:40 PM
I did. I picked Bowling Green.:(

trickskier
12-30-2009, 10:46 PM
I did. I picked Bowling Green.:(

I picked Idaho..............:D

tex
12-30-2009, 10:52 PM
Leach's firing had nothing to do about James being lazy, defiant, deceitful or lackadasical. He was fired because of the way he treated James. According to reports on ESPN this is not Leach's first dance with controversial treatment / punishment of players.

If James wasn't a team player all Leach had to do was bench him and he would still have his job.

Leach did bench him...that's what got his daddy's panty's all in a pinch! Have you read all the people coming to Jame's defense...me either....Craig James is a Phi Delt brother who has shamed him self....hope ESPN sees what a dousch he is and fires his *** too....by the way...Leach is crazy but didn't deserve the plank due to a piss ant wanna be who was a lazy ****!

SkiDog
12-30-2009, 10:57 PM
Leach did bench him...that's what got his daddy's panty's all in a pinch! Have you read all the people coming to Jame's defense...me either....Craig James is a Phi Delt brother who has shamed him self....hope ESPN sees what a dousch he is and fires his *** too....by the way...Leach is crazy but didn't deserve the plank due to a piss ant wanna be who was a lazy ****!

I sure hope you can convince others on here of that. But wait, where in Texas do you reside? It may not be close enough to the correct town!

bbymgr
12-30-2009, 11:30 PM
How the he!! do you know, I'm a few hundred miles away. The kid is a ***** along with his over-rated daddy................... the school is screwed for doing this and will end up paying out his contract as well as the dude that replaces him.

You libs love to spout shiat. :smile:

I never claimed to know...........that was Maristar that claimed to know. And as usual, you 2 tampons must have called each other just like any other time someone questions either of you. You two are the typical chat room "bullies" that get all **** strong hiding behind a keyboard. It is hilarious watching your feathers get all riffled up. Then you always go for some political spout off calling anyone who questions you a "Lib". I'm starting to think you are really a closet democrat.:D

tex
12-30-2009, 11:33 PM
I sure hope you can convince others on here of that. But wait, where in Texas do you reside? It may not be close enough to the correct town!

I'm in Fort Worth...we have a huge pathway to Lubbock...I do thank he's crazy but that crazy can coach my team any time...by the way Tech...becareful of what you ask for!

bbymgr
12-30-2009, 11:44 PM
If TX and 210 are on here, who is running HELL right now.:D


They don't really run Hell.........................they just like to act like they do. Just like Team Talk.:D

trickskier
12-31-2009, 07:56 AM
I never claimed to know...........that was Maristar that claimed to know. And as usual, you 2 tampons must have called each other just like any other time someone questions either of you. You two are the typical chat room "bullies" that get all **** strong hiding behind a keyboard. It is hilarious watching your feathers get all riffled up. Then you always go for some political spout off calling anyone who questions you a "Lib". I'm starting to think you are really a closet democrat.:D

So True.................:uglyhamme

TX.X-30 fan
12-31-2009, 08:32 AM
Listen to the two who spouted off not having a clue about what was the truth, and not man enough to admit it. Trick you poster the paste tp try and show up another football program and your buddy just like to argue with anyone that has a set.

I did not resort to name calling (tampon) now did I, I am not a bully on this forum either so both of you may go about your little lives feeling superior to the rest of us.

Maristar210
12-31-2009, 09:04 AM
Trick and Best Buy.

Do your research first. then comment. Justin knows and Tex knows along with Ric. THey live right there they know what the hell is going on. That's where I got my info from. Not ESPN. Got it?

When two question something you have not done one bit of research on it makes you look like an ***. You both looked like asses last night.

If thats being a bully then head to the corner and rub some bufferin on your collective va ginas. ok?

cbryan70
12-31-2009, 09:15 AM
Listen to the two who spouted off not having a clue about what was the truth, and not man enough to admit it. Trick you poster the paste tp try and show up another football program and your buddy just like to argue with anyone that has a set.

I did not resort to name calling (tampon) now did I, I am not a bully on this forum either so both of you may go about your little lives feeling superior to the rest of us.

Stu,


BS your one of the few that has been banned on here, although it was for CR and it was hilarious. Your still an A$$ :rotf:

bbymgr
12-31-2009, 09:22 AM
Trick and Best Buy.

Do your research first. then comment. Justin knows and Tex knows along with Ric. THey live right there they know what the hell is going on. That's where I got my info from. Not ESPN. Got it?

When two question something you have not done one bit of research on it makes you look like an ***. You both looked like asses last night.

If thats being a bully then head to the corner and rub some bufferin on your collective va ginas. ok?

I never questioned Justin, Tex or Ric. I questioned you Maristar.

TX.X-30 fan
12-31-2009, 09:35 AM
Stu,


BS your one of the few that has been banned on here, although it was for CR and it was hilarious. Your still an A$$ :rotf:



I was not being a bully though. :D And gosh darnit I hate having to be right all the time its a heavy burden. ;)

TX.X-30 fan
12-31-2009, 10:02 AM
So True.................:uglyhamme



You are truly a legend in your own mind. :rolleyes:

bbymgr
12-31-2009, 10:18 AM
Listen to the two who spouted off not having a clue about what was the truth, and not man enough to admit it. Trick you poster the paste tp try and show up another football program and your buddy just like to argue with anyone that has a set.

I did not resort to name calling (tampon) now did I, I am not a bully on this forum either so both of you may go about your little lives feeling superior to the rest of us.

In post 4543 you called me a "Lib". I think you will agree that in today's times, that is about the worst name you can call someone.:D

scott023
12-31-2009, 10:44 AM
This thread is truely comical....

captain planet
12-31-2009, 11:37 AM
Can we please talk about football? I saw somewhere in the last few pages Tricky said the Idaho vs. Bowling Green game was the best game. I would have to disagree (because that is what I do with Tricky) and say that the OU vs. Boise State game from the 2007 Fiesta Bowl is still the best game ever.

Can somebody please remind Crutch of this fact? :D

Maristar210
12-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Last nights game was the best so far this season. I'll say that.

Some good games coming up tonight as well. Well see whats up with Lane Kiffin's Vols

SkiDog
12-31-2009, 11:38 AM
Can we please talk about football? I saw somewhere in the last few pages Tricky said the Idaho vs. Bowling Green game was the best game. I would have to disagree (because that is what I do with Tricky) and say that the OU vs. Boise State game from the 2007 Fiesta Bowl is still the best game ever.

Can somebody please remind Crutch of this fact? :D

I do believe he may have been talking about THIS season. I could be wrong.

trickskier
12-31-2009, 11:40 AM
Can we please talk about football? I saw somewhere in the last few pages Tricky said the Idaho vs. Bowling Green game was the best game. I would have to disagree (because that is what I do with Tricky) and say that the OU vs. Boise State game from the 2007 Fiesta Bowl is still the best game ever.

Can somebody please remind Crutch of this fact? :D

I'm talking about this years game..................:D

captain planet
12-31-2009, 12:02 PM
I do believe he may have been talking about THIS season. I could be wrong.

I'm talking about this years game..................:D

I know guys...I was just trying to change the subject to something a little more....happier!

captain planet
12-31-2009, 12:03 PM
So Tricky.....are you going to go 'public' with your little dark secret? :rolleyes::D

trickskier
12-31-2009, 12:05 PM
So Tricky.....are you going to go 'public' with your little dark secret? :rolleyes::D

Can't trust a Buckeye to keep a secret.................:rolleyes:

captain planet
12-31-2009, 12:06 PM
[QUOTE=trickskier;650683]Can't trust a Buckeye to keep a secretQUOTE]

:D:D:D:D

It's as simple as cut and paste!

trickskier
12-31-2009, 12:07 PM
Can't trust a Buckeye to keep a secret

:D:D

It's as simple as cut and paste!

Last time I tell you anything...............;)8p

captain planet
12-31-2009, 12:15 PM
Last time I tell you anything...............;)8p

FWIW, I picked the gaytors in my pool. :rolleyes:

trickskier
12-31-2009, 12:17 PM
FWIW, I picked the gaytors in my pool. :rolleyes:

OK - OK, I picked the Buckeyes in my football pool..............Are you happy now??? :D

captain planet
12-31-2009, 12:22 PM
OK - OK, I picked the Buckeyes in my football pool..............Are you happy now??? :D

YES!!!!!!!!!!! :D8p

DemolitionMan
12-31-2009, 12:26 PM
Sorry CP I picked Oregon. But I have been wrong a lot this bowl season.

bbymgr
12-31-2009, 12:39 PM
OK - OK, I picked the Buckeyes in my football pool..............Are you happy now??? :D

:shocked::shocked: Tricky.............I'm shocked. After the Big 10 Bowl record last year, I was hesitant to pick any Big 10 schools. I did pick The Ohio State University though.

trickskier
12-31-2009, 12:42 PM
:shocked::shocked: Tricky.............I'm shocked. After the Big 10 Bowl record last year, I was hesitant to pick any Big 10 schools. I did pick The Ohio State University though.

Pick was based solely on winning the pool................Both have UGLY uniforms!!! :D

Footin
12-31-2009, 01:17 PM
Tricky, I knew you were a Buckeye fan deep down.

You can were my hat if you want to.

shepherd
12-31-2009, 01:22 PM
Brilliant! Win-win for Tricky.
If the *uckeyes win, he wins the bet.
If they lose, well, he has the satisfaction of seeing them lose. Brilliant. :worthy:

captain planet
12-31-2009, 01:45 PM
Brilliant! Win-win for Tricky.
If the *uckeyes win, he wins the bet.
If they lose, well, he has the satisfaction of seeing them lose. Brilliant. :worthy:

Seriously...did you just use the word brilliant when referring to Tricky? :rolleyes::D

shepherd
12-31-2009, 01:55 PM
Seriously...did you just use the word brilliant when referring to Tricky? :rolleyes::D

Yes. Have you seen the shirts the man wears? :D

BTW, which bowl is Michigan playing in??? I can't seem to find it anywhere. :confused:

captain planet
12-31-2009, 02:06 PM
Yes. Have you seen the shirts the man wears? :D

BTW, which bowl is Michigan playing in??? I can't seem to find it anywhere. :confused:

They were slated to play in the Tucs Medicated Pad Detoilet Bowl.....somewhere in southeast michigan. :D

Long live R-Rod!!!!!!!!!!!!

trickskier
12-31-2009, 02:45 PM
Brilliant! Win-win for Tricky.
If the *uckeyes win, he wins the bet.
If they lose, well, he has the satisfaction of seeing them lose. Brilliant. :worthy:

LMAO!!! Good One Shep!!! :D

trickskier
12-31-2009, 02:48 PM
They were slated to play in the Tucs Medicated Pad Detoilet Bowl.....somewhere in southeast michigan. :D

Long live R-Rod!!!!!!!!!!!!

Damn CP, That is the funniest thing I've read in a while.................Thanks for the Laugh!!! :D

Ric
12-31-2009, 05:45 PM
Last nights game was the best so far this season. I'll say that.

Some good games coming up tonight as well. Well see whats up with Lane Kiffin's Vols
that idaho coach has got to be nuts :eek:

atlfootr
12-31-2009, 10:17 PM
Florida State vs West Virginia

GO NOLE'S AND BOWDEN!!!!!!


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atlfootr
01-01-2010, 12:11 PM
2010 Gator Bowl Florida State vs West Virginia
College Football Bowl Picks Odds Written by Glen McNeil

Friday, 01 January 2010

2010 Gator Bowl Florida State vs West Virginia College Football Bowl Picks Odds

- First off, let’s talk about Bobby Bowden and Florida St. Bowden will be ‘coaching’ in his final game on New Year’s Day when Seminoles take on the West Virginia Mountaineers (http://affiliates.commissionaccount.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_6515b_115%20) in the Gator Bowl. Fifty-five years as a coach (37 as a Seminole), 21 bowl victories, 2 National Championships, 2nd all time with 388 overall victories.

College Football Bowl Betting Odds list West Virginia -2.5 favorites over Florida State (http://affiliates.commissionaccount.com/processing/clickthrgh.asp?btag=a_6515b_115%20)
heading into this College Football Picks Gator Bowl matchup.

atlfootr
01-01-2010, 12:17 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/bowls/gator

Gator Bowl

West Virginia vs. Florida State
Date/Time: Jan. 1, 1 p.m. ET
Site: Jacksonville Municipal Stadium, Jacksonville, Fla.
Network: CBS

http://images.cbssports.com/images/collegefootball/gatorlogo10.jpg

bbymgr
01-01-2010, 02:16 PM
Who did you pick for the game Footr?:rolleyes::rolleyes: