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kgrove
06-23-2012, 04:47 PM
My '08 trailer has a Reliable actuator (Reliable the brand name as the actuator is anything but reliable in function). It's been causing me problems and apparently parts aren't available for it any longer so I need to convert it over to a UFP actuator. Has anyone had this done to shed some light on this, especially what it cost?

I know the swing-out tongue will either have to be replaced or heavily modified to accept the UFP... That will mean parts, metal work, and repainting. I know the UFP actuator itself should be somewhere around $150-200. What did it end up costing in total? How long should I plan on the trailer being out of commission?

bturner2
06-24-2012, 08:21 AM
I have an 07 that's been good so far but based on what I've heard on this board we all may be in need one day. I would suspect the easiest DYI path would be to purchase the swing arm shell from the dealer and the rest of the parts from the web. Then install everything yourself. It should be pretty straight forward assembly with bleeding the brakes about the hardest part of the installation.

I would think the dealer should be able to get the swing arm just don't don't the cost there. You'll also have to get paint from the dealer or have some mixed to match.

I've found finding places that sell the UFP actuator can even be challenging. The last time I needed parts I used a place called Waymire.....

http://waymires.net/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3_45_46

X10KC
06-24-2012, 11:35 AM
Who is the manufacturer of the trailer? I have an 02 X10 that came on a Pacific Trailer made for MC. It had a UFP actuator that I just replaced and was a pretty easy job to do. The actuator (A-60 for 2 axle, 4 disc set up) was $159 from PT in Newark, CA. They are also in Chino, CA

kgrove
06-24-2012, 11:50 AM
It's a standard '08 MC trailer for an X15. I've been told the swing arms are not the same and will require modification to fit. There is no way I can do the work myself. Aside from time, I would never feel safe using something I built.

mikeg205
06-24-2012, 12:05 PM
It's a quick job. Just find a good welder to cut off the current actuator and weld in the new UFP.

Check this thread...

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=47740&highlight=swing+tongue

rgardjr1
06-24-2012, 05:29 PM
Doing this right now. Bought the UFP actuator and sleeve from an online trailer place. The old swing away tongue just needs the top and bottom plates cut off and welded up to the new sleeve. I'm letting my machine shop do it, but it wouldn't be too difficult to do it yourself if you've got welding experience. My trailer is galvanized so the paint is pretty easy for me. My guess is that a machine shop would have about 3 hours into the cutting and welding. I won't be putting my boat in until the 4th and then I'll have the rest of the summer to bleed the brakes.

kgrove
06-25-2012, 12:36 AM
Doing this right now. Bought the UFP actuator and sleeve from an online trailer place. The old swing away tongue just needs the top and bottom plates cut off and welded up to the new sleeve. I'm letting my machine shop do it, but it wouldn't be too difficult to do it yourself if you've got welding experience. My trailer is galvanized so the paint is pretty easy for me. My guess is that a machine shop would have about 3 hours into the cutting and welding. I won't be putting my boat in until the 4th and then I'll have the rest of the summer to bleed the brakes.

Sounds like exactly what I need to do. What did the tongue and actuator cost you? What is the machine shop charging? Can they do this with the boat still on the trailer or do you have a home for the boat in the meantime? I'll also have to line up paint plus have somebody reconnect the brakes, bleed the lines, etc.

rgardjr1
06-25-2012, 12:49 AM
Sounds like exactly what I need to do. What did the tongue and actuator cost you? What is the machine shop charging? Can they do this with the boat still on the trailer or do you have a home for the boat in the meantime? I'll also have to line up paint plus have somebody reconnect the brakes, bleed the lines, etc.

It was $181 for the sleeve and actuator from http://www.trailerandtruckparts.com/ (they were doing a 10% off at the time). Not sure about the machine shop-I'll have to ask what he'd charge to do it (He does a lot of work for my business so most of the time on stuff like this he doesn't charge or under charges me). My boat is on the trailer right now. I took the swing away tongue off and took it to the machine shop along with the new sleeve. The problem with doing it this way is that you aren't using the boat until the welding gets done. I'm going to stop by tomorrow and see if its ready. I'll post a picture of it when I get it back.

rgardjr1
06-27-2012, 05:50 PM
So I picked it up from the machine shop today. He messed up and switched the top and bottom pieces, but it shouldn't make any difference in function. Bob said he had an hour and a half into it and would charge $150 to do it for some one off the street. I won't put it back on the trailer for another week.
Here is a quick picture:
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bturner2
06-27-2012, 09:46 PM
OK so if Reliable is out of business and MasterCraft is still making trailers who's actuators are they using? Did they change the design for the swing away tongue? If not you should be able to buy a new actuator from MC and just pull the pins and put the new one on. You'd have to bleed the brakes but that should be about it. Anyone seen the trailers since Reliable went out? Any dealers want to chime in?

Jim@BAWS any insight on this?

rgardjr1
06-27-2012, 11:15 PM
I think Mastercraft is back using UFP actuators. The pin placement is not the same on the Reliable and UFP actuators so you need to cut the top and bottom pieces off the swing away and modify the UFP sleeve a little.


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AZX9
06-27-2012, 11:23 PM
Double post. See below

AZX9
06-27-2012, 11:24 PM
Kgrove

I had mine replaced a few moths ago by a good ol boy in Mesa. They are off of broadway on McDonald. The place is called Rucker trailer works. He cut off the old actuator and welded the new UFP to the swing away that was in place. I also had him replace the calipers which were locked up and turn the rotors. He can do it with the boat on the trailer.

kgrove
06-28-2012, 01:31 AM
I know Reliable was was still standard for MC trailers in '08 - my model year - and that at least the last year or two has been UFP, but I don't know the exact model year it changed.

The swing away tongue is different so you can't just place a UFP actuator in a tongue that had a Reliable actuator. Unfortunately not just the cutouts and holes needed for the actuator are different... the plates and pins that form the hinge are also different so you either have to modify the UFP matching tongue to fit the previous tongue's hinge or cut the whole tongue/hinge off and weld on a new tongue and hinge. The method above is reworking the tongue to use the previous hinge but another method somewhere here on the board just cuts off the whole thing and starts over.

I don't know which is cheapest or easiest, but I've got a trailer specialist working up a quote as we speak and hope to know more by the end of the week.