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32offer
06-06-2012, 06:01 PM
I've always had 1/2 ton Silverados, but my '05 really has to work to pull my PS197. I've talked to 3 peeps that drive Tundras, and they say they'll out-pull the heck out of Chevy's. One guy actually had a Silverado before buying his Tundra. Any opinions on the subject? I'm about due for another truck and want something that will pull my boat a little better, but don't want to go to a diesel.

Philscbx
06-06-2012, 06:07 PM
Sounds like my Sonoma 4x4 the way GM did the final gear train - they really don't have a clue about gearing.
On the other hand, the Izusu can rocket down the road, perfect gearing.

If your GM is just 2 wheel drive, take the rear wheels, and make a set the next size or 2 smaller.
Now it will pull fine.
For some reason they try to cheat the milage figures putting too tall of tires on them.
Now even a head wind empty is too much load.

Haven't tried the gearing performance on the Tundra, but I did have the Titan.
He was a monster of pulling power for a heavy 1/2 with the tranny's they use in them.

gts-20
06-06-2012, 06:24 PM
My Tundra tows our PS214 like it's not even there. I've never towed with a Silverado though.

kodiak
06-06-2012, 06:41 PM
I have a 2011 Toyota Sequoia with the 5.7L and it pulls the sh!t out of my X-30. I pull it up Parleys Canyon which summits to 7200 feet, and have no problem. My old Tahoe (03) would struggle to maintain 55mph.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/Kodiak_Evo/IMAG0027.jpg

gweaver
06-06-2012, 06:45 PM
Granted it's an older truck, but my Silverado with the 4.8 does a great job pulling my PS190. Of course, it does have a brand-new engine in it. :) No complaints about it. I don't know what the weight difference is between the 190 and 197.
G

AZX45OD
06-06-2012, 06:52 PM
I have owned a Tundra with the 5.7 as well as Suburbans and Silverados with the 5.3. If you are comparing these two, the tundra wins every time for pulling power. I now drive a sierra 1500 with the 6.2L and it is every bit as good as the Tundra for power, with a much smoother, nicer ride. Of course the 5.7 Tundra swallows more gas than the 5.3 chevy.

-V-
06-06-2012, 06:54 PM
I have a 2011 Toyota Sequoia with the 5.7L and it pulls the sh!t out of my X-30. I pull it up Parleys Canyon which summits to 7200 feet, and have no problem. My old Tahoe (03) would struggle to maintain 55mph.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/Kodiak_Evo/IMAG0027.jpg

Ain't the sequoia the same as the tundra from the drive-train through the frame, just different body?



By the way, I love my Tundra!!!!! I pull my 210VRS without a problem fully loaded. I pull around 5K lbs with no problem.

Georgeohh
06-06-2012, 07:09 PM
The 5.3 in my Tahoe has a tough time holding 65mph when towing my X2

19_Skier
06-06-2012, 07:11 PM
2009 Tundra with the 5.7L, love it and it pulls my prostar skier with little effort. Not sure what the weight difference would be between it and a 197 but I'm also on a tandem which adds a bit of weight as well. :twocents:

Cloaked
06-06-2012, 07:17 PM
With the 4.30 gear and 380 HP, the Tundra will pull most anything. It's not a GM product in comfort. Not even close. I am a GMC guy for years. Bought a 2012 Tundra in April 2012. I now have a 2012 GMC on the way, this week for delivery. Tundras are fine for a 1/2 ton truck but not to my needs. Light duty at best. Fast with a tall gear but doesn't impress me at all as a truck, per se.

10.1 MPG on the only tank I ran through it.

GMC 2500 HD crew will be in the garage by Friday....

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Jerseydave
06-06-2012, 07:18 PM
I've always had 1/2 ton Silverados, but my '05 really has to work to pull my PS197. I've talked to 3 peeps that drive Tundras, and they say they'll out-pull the heck out of Chevy's. One guy actually had a Silverado before buying his Tundra. Any opinions on the subject? I'm about due for another truck and want something that will pull my boat a little better, but don't want to go to a diesel.

My '07 Suburban 5.3 pulls my X-star ok, not as well as my '07 Denali 6.2 though.
I've heard good things about the Tundra....except mpg. 15 highway solo is what one owner told me!

If you're not in a hurry, GM is changing the pickups, suburbans for model year 2014 (late summer 2013) and word is the new 5.3 V8 will be pushing close to 400 hp. I'm waiting to see that for myself. :rolleyes:

JohnE
06-06-2012, 07:33 PM
My 05 Avalanche tows my X14 like a dream. Lots of long trips and had no problems through the long grades on Virginia on the way to NC. Its a Z71. I don't know the gearing but it has the 5.3

ncsone
06-06-2012, 07:47 PM
I love my Tundra with the 5.7l. It feels like it will pull just about anything. But, it does like to drink gas. I get about 14 avg. in mixed city driving with heavy BFG All Terrain tires and 4wd. We just took a road trip with it and the boat and it averaged somewhere between 10-11 MPG for pretty much all highway driving. I will say that my 07 Tahoe 'seemed' to pull my 197 easier than my '10 Tundra, but the Tundra is rated to pull 5K more weight and I think it would do it, but there is no doubt that the Tahoe was smoother on the road and shifted up/down less.

One thing about the Tundra is that the back end feels pretty 'lively'. It seems like you get a lot more feedback about bumps in the road from the back end of the Tundra than with the other trucks - it does like a little weight in the bed to really ride nice.

I have no doubts that I can easily get 150-200K miles out of my Tundra, but trucks are a highly personal preference. Drive them all and go with what you like. For a 1/2 ton truck, the Tundra won me on motor, longevity reputation, a huge rear seat (CrewMax) and looks - I did not like all of the chrome on the other brands. If I were looking at 3/4 ton or bigger, it is a different set of choices/decisions/preferences.

Jerseydave
06-06-2012, 08:00 PM
My 05 Avalanche tows my X14 like a dream. Lots of long trips and had no problems through the long grades on Virginia on the way to NC. Its a Z71. I don't know the gearing but it has the 5.3

My Z71 suburban has 3.73 gears......you prob have the same

cf_koch
06-06-2012, 09:23 PM
I have never towed with a Silverado but currently am towing my Maristar 215 with an 08 Tundra Crew Max. Its a 5.7l 4x4 and tows like a champ. Never struggles with hills and its cab is extremely comfortable cab. I cannot tell you which truck is better but I will say that you will not go wrong with the Tundra.

holdenh2o
06-06-2012, 09:58 PM
Gear ratios and engine sizes make this an apples and oranges discussion. I have both a 2011 yukon xl and a 2011 silverado - both have the 5.3 w/ 3.42. I do not have any problems. The G-locker in the rear diff of GM products is the best non-slip diff in the business - makes the need for a 4x4 virtually obsolete.

I had a 2011 2500 hd and it pulled like a bull dozer - to the tune of less than 10 mpg.

tideengineer
06-06-2012, 10:09 PM
I have 2005 silverado 1500 z71 with 3.73...no problems.

snobinge
06-06-2012, 10:13 PM
The 3.42's that Chevy is using in their 1/2 tons is what makes them puppy's. My brother had an 04 with 3.73's that pulled very well. He upgraded to an 06' a couple years later and didn't check the gear ratio's. The 06' has the 3.42's and pulls like CHIT!

My father in law was a domestic truck driver his whole life and is now on his 3rd Tundra. I myself pull with an Armada and a V6 4runner for around town. The Toyota/Nissan are a much better 1/2 ton for pulling vs. the Chevy. You do suffer on gas mileage with the Toyota/Nissan.

197 TT
06-06-2012, 10:55 PM
I went from a 2002 Silverado with 3.73s to a 2009 silverado with the new 6spd transmission and 3.42s. The transmission made all the difference in the world. significant improvement

Brian B
06-06-2012, 10:58 PM
I have had 2 Silverados with no issues at all.

Buy American!

dmayer84
06-06-2012, 11:01 PM
Get a silverado/Sierra with the z71 package so u get the 3.73 rear

Philscbx
06-06-2012, 11:23 PM
GMC 2500 HD crew will be in the garage by Friday.....
That's the other that pulls the 209, and it's used to plow commercially. It's the crew cab.

When you get yours, see if you sense the same after flex I seem to feel over light bumps in the road.
As if the frame flex shake is in the middle of its length.
I do like the Alison tranny. Not much is going to bog it down.
I was also impressed with hardly any smell of diesel, otherwise I'd have stayed with gas.

Cloaked
06-06-2012, 11:53 PM
That's the other that pulls the 209, and it's used to plow commercially. It's the crew cab.

When you get yours, see if you sense the same after flex I seem to feel over light bumps in the road.
As if the frame flex shake is in the middle of its length.
I do like the Alison tranny. Not much is going to bog it down.
I was also impressed with hardly any smell of diesel, otherwise I'd have stayed with gas.
Diesel fumes make me horny. This will be my fourth 2500 HD..... The Allison is top notch. What I relally like about the GM products is the level of comfort. This Tundra I have is like sitting on a stump while camping out.

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AZX9
06-07-2012, 12:38 AM
Not mentioned here is the Ford F150 with Ecoboost. That is the only "gas" truck I would buy if they stopped making diesel trucks and SUV's. Real tow vehicles use diesel. There is no comparison period. It surprises me at how the American market has such a stick up its A$$ about diesels. If every vehicle was magically changed to diesel tomorrow world consumption of oil would have a dramatic drop.

Ironhorse
06-07-2012, 09:58 AM
I have a 2011 Tundra Platinum with the 5.7 and it pulls my X14 effortlessly. The comfort imo is a good as the GM if you are looking at the higher end packages.

MariStar-Man
06-07-2012, 10:13 AM
I'm also tossing around the Idea of a Full Size, but I keep going back to Clifford...

I tow my Maristar with a Tacmoa... TRD, Off Road 4x4. It stresses a bit going uphill, but It's great for everything other Towing situation I have. Plus I get 17 mpg average, and It drives like a car. It's Towing capacity is 6800# and uses a Class IV hitch.

However, on your search for a Full size, Edmunds rates the Ford F-150 as the best. Here's the article:

http://www.edmunds.com/truck/2012/buying-guide.html

Good luck and let us know how your test drives go...

Granite_33
06-07-2012, 11:47 AM
Not mentioned here is the Ford F150 with Ecoboost. That is the only "gas" truck I would buy if they stopped making diesel trucks and SUV's. Real tow vehicles use diesel. There is no comparison period. It surprises me at how the American market has such a stick up its A$$ about diesels. If every vehicle was magically changed to diesel tomorrow world consumption of oil would have a dramatic drop.



I second that sentiment. I wish more options were available in the US, all the way from compact cars to full size SUV's.

I go to the SUV diesel conversion sites often to drool........

Mastercraftdave
06-07-2012, 12:40 PM
I have an 2012 Silverado that pulls my X45 pretty good. The boat weights about 5500lbs plus trailer and equippment. Mine is lifted and still get the job done. Cant go wrong with American made.

nickespi
06-07-2012, 01:35 PM
Funny about all these "American Made" comments. My Tundra was built right down the road from where I live. Maybe these folks are talking about the company's origin. Either way, my Tundra pulls like a dream. The only other vehicle I've owned that could rival it was a Tahoe I had from the early 2000s when they had the 5.7 Vortec and 3.73 gears. Tundra is a safe bet if you aren't wanting to go diesel. Can't beat the pull of the diesel, but the Tundra comes pretty darn close.

Sodar
06-07-2012, 01:50 PM
I REALLY love my Tundra. As everyone said it pulls like a dream, but equally important is the ride and interior comforts. People damn near wet themselves when the get into the back of my CrewMax, recline the seats and still don't have their knees touch the seat in front of them.

Brian B
06-07-2012, 01:54 PM
I tow anything from a small car hauler with an off road race UTV, to a 38' fifth wheel toy hauler with my Duramax. Nothing beats a diesel for towing! I suppose if a boat was the only thing that I towed, I'd likely go for a half ton gas truck. (Gm)

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c250/ultimatuc2/DSCF0017.jpg

nickespi
06-07-2012, 02:02 PM
I REALLY love my Tundra. As everyone said it pulls like a dream, but equally important is the ride and interior comforts. People damn near wet themselves when the get into the back of my CrewMax, recline the seats and still don't have their knees touch the seat in front of them.

Agreed. When you can put half an SFODA into the cab of a truck and none of them complain, you know it's right!

carlsonwa
06-07-2012, 03:12 PM
I'm also tossing around the Idea of a Full Size, but I keep going back to Clifford...

I tow my Maristar with a Tacmoa... TRD, Off Road 4x4. It stresses a bit going uphill, but It's great for everything other Towing situation I have. Plus I get 17 mpg average, and It drives like a car. It's Towing capacity is 6800# and uses a Class IV hitch.

However, on your search for a Full size, Edmunds rates the Ford F-150 as the best. Here's the article:

http://www.edmunds.com/truck/2012/buying-guide.html

Good luck and let us know how your test drives go...


I tow with my V6 4x4 Tacoma as well, a full size would be nice, just couldn't drive a full size daily. With the 5 speed transmission it tows my 190 great. Down the road a bigger boat I would consider the Tundra or F-150 ecoboost, and a daily driver on the side.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1060.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1280.jpg

Even towed my buddies Axis A22 a few times when his 07' Avalanche was in the shop for excessive oil consumption.

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1477.jpg

I cheat......I have Firestone Air Bags :)

32offer
06-07-2012, 03:39 PM
Well, my '05 is the Z71, 4 x 4, 5.3L. I have no idea what tranny it has. But i have a couple hills to go up, and we're talking Kansas here, so they're not huge by any means, and it kicks up to 4-5000 rpm to keep a constant 65 mph. pretty annoying when it sounds like it's gonna blow. and it's been very well maintained with no mechanical issues whatsoever. I've driven my boss's 2011 Avalanche, and it has a lot more get-up-and-go than my '05, so maybe they've improved since '05 in the power dept. thanks for all of the input.

LittleFuss
06-07-2012, 06:25 PM
I have a '93 Tundra 2WD with the 4.7L V8...Hauls my 190 very well..Next truck will be a Titan if my wife has her way...If I were getting the GM I would go for the 6.2L...

atlfootr
06-07-2012, 06:31 PM
OYOTA man myself, luv it!

Footin
06-07-2012, 07:17 PM
I have been a Chebby man for many years, just upgraded to a GMC and lovin it.

JDC
06-07-2012, 09:10 PM
I love my Silverado. It's a '00 so I'm due for a new one soon. ;)

It'll be another Silverado for sure. Very comfortable ride, towing or not.

OHIOPRO205
06-07-2012, 09:12 PM
GMC Sierra all the way. Great towing and alot better fuel mileage than the Toyota!


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mcxfan
06-07-2012, 09:15 PM
I have a Tundra CrewMax with a 6 inch lift and she pulls the X2 flawlessly. The only thing you have to do is make sure you get the 5.7 Liter Motor (390 HP). I didn't even gear it and it will still roast the tires if I allow it to.