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SkiDaddy
05-03-2012, 08:26 AM
Hello all,

I recently removed my drivers seat in my "new to me" 1993 ProStar 190. I found a few helpful hints on he boards here, but figured I'm summarize what I did for anyone down the road that might be looking for info.

My drivers seat was hard to adjust, which was the reason I wanted to work on it. The seat is connected to a pair of sliding rails that screw into the floor mounting rails. I removed the seat and the rails as an entire unit. I read some folks that could just slide the seat right off the rails, but I think that is only possible if the rails had been removed in the past and some internal rail locking components removed.

What I did was:

1. Remove seat cushion and back cushion.
2. Slide seat all the way back and that will expose the front rail mounting screws on each of the rails. Remove each screw. Note: Mine were quite tight and I used a impact driver with a philips head bit to remove them. You might need the same or a big & stout philips screwdriver to remove them. Don't strip the heads!!!
3. On the seat, you will see several holes that can be used as access holes to the rear mounting rails screws. Slide the seat back until the access holes line up over the rail mounting screws. Remove two two screws.
4. The entire seat and rails can now be lifed out as a unit.

I carefully sprayed some de-greaser into the rails and worked them back and forth to clean out some of the old sticky grease. I then worked a small amount of new grease into the rails. On one of my rails, two small metallic cylinders fell out and I think these were part of the locking mechanism that keeps the rails from sliding fully apart from one another. So one of my rails can come apart, and the other cannot. I didn't worry too much about trying to put it back together. It works fine.

I also took the opportunity to clean off some rust where the metal rails meet the carpet. Also, now is a good time to clean and condition the vinyl on the right side of the seat and around the speaker to the right of the seat where access is difficult when th seat is in place.

Put things back together in reverse order and you should be good to go.

Good luck!

joyner1020
05-03-2012, 10:04 AM
Hello all,

I recently removed my drivers seat in my "new to me" 1993 ProStar 190. I found a few helpful hints on he boards here, but figured I'm summarize what I did for anyone down the road that might be looking for info.

My drivers seat was hard to adjust, which was the reason I wanted to work on it. The seat is connected to a pair of sliding rails that screw into the floor mounting rails. I removed the seat and the rails as an entire unit. I read some folks that could just slide the seat right off the rails, but I think that is only possible if the rails had been removed in the past and some internal rail locking components removed.

What I did was:

1. Remove seat cushion and back cushion.
2. Slide seat all the way back and that will expose the front rail mounting screws on each of the rails. Remove each screw. Note: Mine were quite tight and I used a impact driver with a philips head bit to remove them. You might need the same or a big & stout philips screwdriver to remove them. Don't strip the heads!!!
3. On the seat, you will see several holes that can be used as access holes to the rear mounting rails screws. Slide the seat back until the access holes line up over the rail mounting screws. Remove two two screws.
4. The entire seat and rails can now be lifed out as a unit.

I carefully sprayed some de-greaser into the rails and worked them back and forth to clean out some of the old sticky grease. I then worked a small amount of new grease into the rails. On one of my rails, two small metallic cylinders fell out and I think these were part of the locking mechanism that keeps the rails from sliding fully apart from one another. So one of my rails can come apart, and the other cannot. I didn't worry too much about trying to put it back together. It works fine.

I also took the opportunity to clean off some rust where the metal rails meet the carpet. Also, now is a good time to clean and condition the vinyl on the right side of the seat and around the speaker to the right of the seat where access is difficult when th seat is in place.

Put things back together in reverse order and you should be good to go.

Good luck!


Now u need to go get a swivel mount and put it between the slides and the seat base . I do not have a bolster seat , so this will raise the seat up maybe 2 inches , not much more than sitting on a cushion ( what most of us do anyway )
The swivel allows u to spin around to get out of the drivers seat when u get up , and also when sitting around and just hanging out u can spin around and be involved in the conversation instead of sitting straight forward all the time like a child in time out .
One of the best things I have done to the prostar that I really think mastercraft should have done from the factory ..!:D

mzimme
05-03-2012, 10:42 AM
Now u need to go get a swivel mount and put it between the slides and the seat base . I do not have a bolster seat , so this will raise the seat up maybe 2 inches , not much more than sitting on a cushion ( what most of us do anyway )
The swivel allows u to spin around to get out of the drivers seat when u get up , and also when sitting around and just hanging out u can spin around and be involved in the conversation instead of sitting straight forward all the time like a child in time out .
One of the best things I have done to the prostar that I really think mastercraft should have done from the factory ..!:D

Good call with the swivel mount! I'm going to have to do that on my '83.

sp00ky
05-03-2012, 11:34 AM
Now u need to go get a swivel mount and put it between the slides and the seat base . I do not have a bolster seat , so this will raise the seat up maybe 2 inches , not much more than sitting on a cushion ( what most of us do anyway )
The swivel allows u to spin around to get out of the drivers seat when u get up , and also when sitting around and just hanging out u can spin around and be involved in the conversation instead of sitting straight forward all the time like a child in time out .
One of the best things I have done to the prostar that I really think mastercraft should have done from the factory ..!:D

Where did you get your swivel mount?

joyner1020
05-04-2012, 09:47 AM
Where did you get your swivel mount?

Walmart will have them for about 12 to 15 bucks , and they are black powder coated . If they dont have them any boat supply place should have them . Very easy to find ..

SkiDaddy
05-04-2012, 12:56 PM
I really like that swivel idea, but I'm picturing the right side of my seat and quite a bit of that right seat area is in physical contact with the vinyl padding under the throttle control unit. Unless I moved the seat a bit to the left, I'm not sure if the seat would have room to rotate....

vrsc
05-04-2012, 05:29 PM
nice! pictures please

vrsc
05-05-2012, 11:41 AM
I'd love to know the part number for this an where you purchased it from because I need a swivel

memphis23
05-09-2012, 01:45 PM
did anyone ever conclude whether a swivel would work on a PS 190?

DooSPX
05-09-2012, 08:20 PM
Would like to know as well...

mayo93prostar
05-09-2012, 08:33 PM
whether the swivel will work or not my driver seat does not have phillips head screws holding the slide rails to the floor. It has four 7/16" head bolts that are readily accessible by sliding the seat forward and back without removing the cushions.

east tx skier
05-09-2012, 08:41 PM
For what it's worth, a swivel mount is going to look pretty "pontoon." It's a sports car.

/your boat. Do as you like, but ... (see above).

joyner1020
05-10-2012, 10:48 AM
For what it's worth, a swivel mount is going to look pretty "pontoon." It's a sports car.
/your boat. Do as you like, but ... (see above).
I get onto this site for help and to help others if I can , not to bash others ideas , even if I think they look PONTOON , SO... Thanks for the awesome comment , Atleast my PONTOON says mastercraft on the side, and we wont even get into the jumpseats that u rave over that are actually made for a PONTOON or FISHING boat ... They dont look PONTOON at all ...

The swivel that I use is 1 7/8 inches tall from top to bottom , so the PONTOON look is out of the question .. It raises the seat 1 7/8 inches , which in my book isnt enough to even notice that its raised . Also U cant see the swivel , the seat is so low to the floor of the boat that u cant see undernieth it to tell that I have a swivel on my seat .. The only reason u would know there was a swivel there is if u grab the seat and spin it ..

This might not be for everyone , but it must have been for someone because mastercraft puts swivels on the drivers seats now ....

As for pics I will take some today when I get out of work

Part # from overtons -- 75631 -- This isnt the one I have but it appears to be even smaller at 3/4 of an inch thick .

Walmart website has them , but no part # Type in "Springfield seat swivel" in the search box and it will bring it up

TX.X-30 fan
05-10-2012, 11:12 AM
I agree with ETS.

TX.X-30 fan
05-10-2012, 11:30 AM
This is about obamas stance on gay marriage right??

sp00ky
05-10-2012, 02:02 PM
did anyone ever conclude whether a swivel would work on a PS 190?

yeah looks pretty tight on my 94 205. won't be able to swivel much but I do like the idea of raising the seat as I hate sitting on a cushion

atlfootr
05-10-2012, 03:36 PM
Great idea guys, now I have another reason to take apart my seat other then the stripped out thread hole in the mount.
While it's out I 'm throwing in one of these, great call btw!
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TX.X-30 fan
05-10-2012, 04:38 PM
Would you also need to install a seat-belt with that?

cbryan70
05-10-2012, 11:05 PM
So my question is, once you put it on the seat how do you get the screws into the floor?

mikeg205
05-10-2012, 11:19 PM
ouch - that's a bit rough on eastx... lot of knowledge on these great crafts even though he owns well you know...:) :D

Cloaked
05-11-2012, 07:39 PM
I get onto this site for help and to help others if I can , not to bash others ideas , even if I think they look PONTOON , SO... Thanks for the awesome comment , Atleast my PONTOON says mastercraft on the side, and we wont even get into the jumpseats that u rave over that are actually made for a PONTOON or FISHING boat ... They dont look PONTOON at all ...

I think you read ETS's post incorrectly. I have never known him to say one bad word toward anyone. He calls it like he sees it..... and seeing that this is a semi-uncensored site, he's entitled to an opinion....

Your seats will look like a Foxworthy pontoon installation... lol.... :D

Lighten up. Eastie is courteous, harmless, knowledgeable, dedicated to the sport, and has only been dismissed from one forum site that I know, and it wasn't for bashing... He's one of the good guys.............

.

sp00ky
05-11-2012, 08:25 PM
I think you read ETS's post incorrectly. I have never known him to say one bad word toward anyone. He calls it like he sees it..... and seeing that this is a semi-uncensored site, he's entitled to an opinion....

Your seats will look like a Foxworthy pontoon installation... lol.... :D

Lighten up. Eastie is courteous, harmless, knowledgeable, dedicated to the sport, and has only been dismissed from one forum site that I know, and it wasn't for bashing... He's one of the good guys.............

.

I second that!!!

vrsc
05-11-2012, 08:34 PM
I look forward to pictures and to see how far the seat will swivel

Jeff Lyman
05-12-2012, 07:13 AM
Ya easy...... on Easty hes like the "god father" of this site. I think the swivel is a great idea Im sick of smashing my rebuilt knees against the dash.

BARE5
05-12-2012, 07:43 AM
I personally love the idea, being 6'6 a swivel may make it a little easier to get out of driver compartment. But is there enough clearance to swivel?

bwhitaker
06-02-2012, 11:47 AM
Great post, this should work on my 2000 Prostar if I can determine how the back cushion is attached. Suggestions?