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redraider08
04-25-2012, 04:34 PM
What kind of ballast set up do you have in your 2000 X-Star or 205V? I just bought one and it only has the factory ballast. I will be wake boarding and eventually learning how to surf. Thanks!

sheckski
04-26-2012, 11:37 AM
We use 300 lbs in the well into the bow and 300 lbs going port to starboard just in front of the rear seat. Add additional using the stock keel line ballast or another bag right behind the bow bag. When we have tried weighting the rear lockers it gets very washed out, although maybe that could be offset by more bow ballast. We also use another bag right behind the driver when surfing. All in all our results are "ok" but not perfect. the surf wake in particular leaves something to be desired. if others have a different formula i will also be interested to see it.

Paul
2000 205V

JRW160
04-26-2012, 12:44 PM
I run a 750lb sac in each rear locker, a 300lb sac in the ski locker, and a 1000lb sac in the bow. 24mph at 75ft

Cary K.
04-26-2012, 01:33 PM
My current setup is almost identical to JRW160's. The wake is awesome!

Lakeside09
04-26-2012, 01:49 PM
750's rear lockers
300 center locker
260 walkway sac
650 bow sac

kdr
04-26-2012, 01:51 PM
750's in the rear locker, 300 lbs in the ski locker, a sac in the bow walkway, about 200lbs of lead in the bow, 100lbs of lead under the passenger, and one of those small cube sacs to fine tune the wake as needed.

I run the 750's about 3/4 when wakeboarding. When Surfing, the surf side 750 is full, the other side empty, the bow sac and bow lead are moved to the surf side of the cabin.

B-rad
04-26-2012, 07:15 PM
I have A ballast set from my 99 x-star 4 Bags ballast switches etc. Email me I want it out of my garage.

Brad

swatguy
04-27-2012, 12:07 AM
Pretty much right on with kdr

swatguy
04-27-2012, 03:44 PM
B Rad. Pm sent

redraider08
05-08-2012, 01:57 PM
Thanks for all the input. I would like to keep all the ballast hidden, so i'm thinking i will go with the 750's in the rear locker (knowing that i will only fill them to full capacity when surfing) and get the bow sack for the front. I think this year i will just fill them with the portable pump and wait till the end of the summer to do all the pluming and install switches.

JRW160
05-08-2012, 09:17 PM
Thanks for all the input. I would like to keep all the ballast hidden, so i'm thinking i will go with the 750's in the rear locker (knowing that i will only fill them to full capacity when surfing) and get the bow sack for the front. I think this year i will just fill them with the portable pump and wait till the end of the summer to do all the pluming and install switches.
If you are thinking about getting the integrated bow sac, you will need a lot more weight than that in the bow. I bet you get 250-300lbs out of it. There just isn't enough space under the seats for it to come close to filling up. When I ran it, I had to run two 350lb sacs up there as well to offset the 750s filled about 3/4 of the way.

Russell
06-18-2012, 05:54 PM
When adding extra ballast was the stock prop OK???? Or do you recommend changing it??
Thanks

JRW160
06-18-2012, 08:32 PM
My stock prop was 14x20, and it took forever to plane out with all the extra weight. It also had a lot of trouble holding speed. I switched to a 14.5x14.25, and it gets out of the hole no problem and holds speed just fine.

cav14
06-19-2012, 07:25 AM
JRW, what would you suggest is the best way to get weight up front to balance 750s in the back? A 750 across the seats? Is there any way to get enough weight up there with sacks hidden under the seats?

JRW160
06-19-2012, 01:16 PM
JRW, what would you suggest is the best way to get weight up front to balance 750s in the back? A 750 across the seats? Is there any way to get enough weight up there with sacks hidden under the seats?

I think the only way to get enough hidden weight up there is to run lead under the seats. If you ran a 750 in the walkway and another one across the top of it, you could probably offset the 750s in the back. Right now I'm running the 1000lb open bow triangle up there, as well as the ski locker sac, and I still only put about 500lbs in the 750s in the back. Anything more and the port side wake gets a really nasty curl at 70'-75' and further back. I usually run at 24-24.5mph

76S&S
06-19-2012, 01:25 PM
I'm running 400's in the back, full kgb, integrated bow sac (assuming about half full) plus a 350 in the walkway, as far forward as I can get it and generally 4 adults. We ride 21.5 - 22.5 @ 70' and the wake is clean.

cav14
06-19-2012, 01:55 PM
We have the bow filler cushion so it would be easy to put the 1000lb sac up there. I'm guessing a full 750 fits in the rear locker? I don't intend to fill the 750s all the way for wakeboarding, only the port one all the way for surfing and them both a little over half for wakeboarding.

JRW160
06-19-2012, 08:30 PM
We have the bow filler cushion so it would be easy to put the 1000lb sac up there. I'm guessing a full 750 fits in the rear locker? I don't intend to fill the 750s all the way for wakeboarding, only the port one all the way for surfing and them both a little over half for wakeboarding.
Yeah, a full 750 fits in the rear locker. I only fill them for surfing. I've been running the 1000lb sac in the nose for surfing too because it helps keep the platform from dragging and making the surf wave wash.

cav14
06-20-2012, 08:30 AM
JRW do you have any pictures of the 1000lb sac? Is it able to fill up completely in the front of the 205V hull?

JRW160
06-20-2012, 04:58 PM
Here's a pic of it in my boat. It seems to fill completely.
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0tGjoeinTnA/T3U3FdZlvFI/AAAAAAAAuGc/1MkyZQjjDeU/s640/IMG_20120329_181253.jpg

redraider08
06-26-2012, 05:24 PM
I finally got to try out the 750's in the rear locker and I have a few questions.

1) How are you guys draining the bag? I just opened the cap and let it drain into the bilge while running the bilge pump. Will it hurt anything to let it drain like that?

2) Anyone have a pictures or willing to share ideas on giving the plastic piece that separates the rear lock from the engine compartment some extra bracing?

3) I have the 2000 X-Star with the hydraulic cylinder that lifts the rear hatch. Should i worry about the bag putting pressure up against it?

As usual thanks for the input!

kal_dude
06-26-2012, 05:30 PM
how are you filling them??? do not drain them into your bilge.... that is crazy... pump them empty

redraider08
06-26-2012, 06:11 PM
i've got the fligh high pro x tsunami ballast pump, but there is not room to hook the ballast pump to the drain fitting on the bottom of the bag.

JRW160
06-27-2012, 10:28 AM
Here's the guide I followed to brace the plastice pieces between the engine and lockers. Your setup may be a little different with the 1 piece rear hatch.
http://forums.wakeboarder.com/viewtopic.php?t=67697

JRW160
06-27-2012, 10:29 AM
i've got the fligh high pro x tsunami ballast pump, but there is not room to hook the ballast pump to the drain fitting on the bottom of the bag.Just hook it to the top of the bag and push down on it to get it to prime.

Cary K.
06-27-2012, 10:34 AM
Just hook it to the top of the bag and push down on it to get it to prime.

^ This

kal_dude
06-27-2012, 11:04 AM
yep.... like the rest of us do ;)

redraider08
07-02-2012, 12:35 PM
Thanks for the helpful tip JRW160, i did that this last weekend it worked out great!

Thats a pretty simple way to beef up the divider, unfortunately i have the one piece hatch and don't have the piece going across the top, so i think i will have to install some horizontal braces. Or i may just go ahead and install that piece across the top since i plan to make it a three piece deck when the time comes around for new skins.

swatguy
07-02-2012, 01:11 PM
I used an L channel bracket at the base of the divider that runs the entire length. Screwed it right into the floor along the bottom. The divider still bends/ flexes a small bit but it's not melting on te manifolds. Has help up for 5 seasons without issue. I also just removed the hydraulic ram/ hatch and used two gas shocks on each side and a quick release pull tab to lock it in place.
couldn't be happier.

This allows the bags to fill all the way on both sides. It also allows for a much quicker access to the rear compartments and allows board storage. I will try and find the thread with the part numbers. The latch was like 30bucks. And each shock was about same as well.

swatguy
07-02-2012, 01:26 PM
Here is the link I followed.
http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=38546

Same latch. Only thing is on my xstar the center portion of the deck doesn't go low enough to mount it along the ski pylon like Jeff did. I mounted mine along the driver side as close to the rear bench as possible. I ended up thru bolting my shock attachment plate on my sundeck because it was flimsy aluminum And the first time I used metal screws it just stripped out. So marked it ,drilled the holes , and then went and removed the staples from the sundeck vinyl so I could get my hands in there with the bolts. I also used electrical box plates to reinforce the area as theyvwere a perfect size to match the mounting plates for the shocks. So i then drilled the holes on the electrical plates and slid one on top under the foam and on the bottom beween the logo material as well. Probably a bit overkill but i just wanted to donit one time and why not take a little extra time. I slid it into place before putting the bolts thru and then used nylon lock nuts and thread lock. Been rock solid. I will try and get some pics but just had surgery so kind of laid up at the moment