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Brian B
04-01-2012, 03:42 PM
Hey guys. Went out yesterday and got in our first sessions of the season! Had an awesome time.......

When I went to drain the tanks one of them wouldnt empty, and after a minute or so, the breaker would blow. Switch it to fill and it would fill and overflow normally.

This is a 01 X10 and I'm guessing the pump impellers have never been changed. What should I look for?

JLowder
04-01-2012, 03:47 PM
Guessing the pump windings for that direction are bad. Check a volt meter and check the motor to ground and see if its shorted.

CantRepeat
04-01-2012, 03:51 PM
I would think the winders are the same either way.

What about a clogged line creating too much back pressure on the pump and it over heating?

snork
04-01-2012, 04:16 PM
2001 isn't there a separate pump, one for fill and one for empty?

Jerseydave
04-01-2012, 05:44 PM
Hey guys. Went out yesterday and got in our first sessions of the season! Had an awesome time.......

When I went to drain the tanks one of them wouldnt empty, and after a minute or so, the breaker would blow. Switch it to fill and it would fill and overflow normally.

This is a 01 X10 and I'm guessing the pump impellers have never been changed. What should I look for? Change your impellers to the green ones, sometimes the original black ones are hard and won't spin.

02ProstarSammyD
04-02-2012, 03:03 PM
2001 isn't there a separate pump, one for fill and one for empty?
Should be reversible pumps. Check for a clogged line. Can just take off the line and blow water through with a hose. Also what is your setup with check valves?

Change your impellers to the green ones, sometimes the original black ones are hard and won't spin.

Def not wasted money regardless. My yellow ones even cause problems sometimes

CantRepeat
04-02-2012, 03:09 PM
Should be reversible pumps. Check for a clogged line. Can just take off the line and blow water through with a hose. Also what is your setup with check valves?



Def not wasted money regardless. My yellow ones even cause problems sometimes

The green are for sure an upgrade over the yellows.

02ProstarSammyD
04-03-2012, 06:20 AM
^Yea but the black are far worse. The black ones are almost just solid and worthless

Brian B
04-04-2012, 12:24 PM
Thanks guys! I'm going to go pull the pump today. I dont have reversible pumps.

I want to replace all of my impellers, but at $30 and having 6 of them, it adds up quick.

JRW160
04-04-2012, 02:00 PM
2001 should have aerator pumps if the ballast is factory. Those don't have impellers. If it's aftermarket, you will just have to get in there and see what kind of pumps you are running. I don't think they switched to the reversible jabsco ballast puppy pumps until 2002.

Brian B
04-04-2012, 02:32 PM
OK. I have those cheesy yellow pumps on my boat. The drain pump is bolted to the back side of the hard tank. Because of this, I cannot simply pinch off a hose to remove, and replace it. It has to be taken off of the tank where it's holding back 250 pounds of water. What do I do now?

Brian B
04-04-2012, 03:49 PM
Never mind. I pulled the port side pump motor off of the housing. Then I removed the bad pump and re-installed the good one. Only lost a few quarts of water in the boat. Now I'm off for a new pump! The old one was cracked and bound up......

Jeff d
04-04-2012, 05:41 PM
I think those are Johnson/Mayfair pumps. West marine carries some cartridges for them. Not sure if they have the correct ones in store or not.

Brian B
04-08-2012, 08:16 PM
^ Yup! Got a replacement from Arizona Luxury Marine.....

cwarndahl
04-16-2012, 01:51 PM
brian what did you replace them with, i have the same set up?

Brian B
04-16-2012, 01:56 PM
Yup. Get one of these, and just use the pump portion of it in your existing housing......

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Johnson/Mayfair+pump&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=709&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=15806147339690460180&sa=X&ei=0lyMT4SjH4PW2gXhiJGhAQ&ved=0CHsQ8wIwAA

mikeg205
04-16-2012, 02:03 PM
nice...inexpensive fix... :D

cwarndahl
04-16-2012, 03:18 PM
were these the pumps you have? and you just put the cartridge in? i have the yellow ones to empty but these red ones fill it up. thanks brian

CantRepeat
04-16-2012, 03:25 PM
Yup. Get one of these, and just use the pump portion of it in your existing housing......

http://www.google.com/products/catalog?q=Johnson/Mayfair+pump&hl=en&safe=off&prmd=imvns&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.,cf.osb&biw=1280&bih=709&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=15806147339690460180&sa=X&ei=0lyMT4SjH4PW2gXhiJGhAQ&ved=0CHsQ8wIwAA

I've never seen those used as ballast pumps.

The impellers that we had mention are not for the type of pump you have.

snork
04-16-2012, 05:19 PM
I've never seen those used as ballast pumps.

The impellers that we had mention are not for the type of pump you have.

thats because in 2001 MC had a pump for fill and a pump for empty to each tank and bag;)

Brian B
04-16-2012, 05:43 PM
were these the pumps you have? and you just put the cartridge in? i have the yellow ones to empty but these red ones fill it up. thanks brian


Never seen those. Mine has 6 of the yellow ones like I posted. No impellers to replace. They're more or less a bilge pump.....