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imjusthereforthefood
03-22-2012, 11:37 AM
Hey guys, love the forums. Long-time lurker. Figured I'd make my first post. I bought this 87 PS190 last year for a hair over $6k. I love the boat and it's been a dream since day 1. It came with perfect pass(main reason why I got it). Has 1000 hours on it and is in good shape for the age. I'm about to start cleaning her up and getting it ready to take out. I've got a few projects I want to do to it:

dual batteries(where can I put the second battery?)
give it a good buying/waxing(using dual-action porter cable but what kind of pads and chemicals?)
repaint the windshield trim
upholstery and vinyl wrap(gf's uncle does upholstery and buddy owns a vinyl wrap company)

Just curious aside from those questions above, what is a list or check-offs I can do to get it ready. Looking for what others do to their rig before season every year. Going to give it a nice cleaning with a steam cleaner, carpet extractor and buffer in the next oncoming weeks.
new boat cover



Also, another reason why I made this thread. I started to make a new thread since it's a topic of it's own but I had a small problem with it last year. One day we ran the boat almost bone dry(had riders on one side of boat to get the last bit of fuel). Ever since then I've had a small fuel problem. I figured it had trash in it. I ran a can of seafoam in it and still had the problem. Replaced the fuel filters and still had the problem. Here's my best description of what it does:

Once I get to a cruising speed it'll "miss" or "sputter" on me. It'll sort of cough/choke for a second then continue to try and run. If I back off the throttle it gets better but sometimes when I pushed it the engine would die. It will idle all day and 95% of the time it runs fine but a handful of times last summer I had to just baby the throttle going around the lake. If you have any other questions I'll try my best to answer it. I've heard and read a little about fuel evaporation(fuel getting too hot) so I put foil on the metal fuel line that leads into the carb. I didn't have any problems with it after that but only ran it one weekend after that so I'm unsure if it fixed it.


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memphis23
03-22-2012, 12:48 PM
I just bought the same boat. I am in a different spot though I am trouble shooting through getting it started. I am waiting on my new Mallory distributor and hoping I will at least have fire to the plugs by then.

Concerning your list I know from past experience that it is always good to have a new water impeller on the boat as a back up.

Table Rocker
03-22-2012, 01:11 PM
If you buy some Sunbrella in the color you want, your gf's uncle will make short work out of that bimini.

mtajpa
03-22-2012, 02:13 PM
Sounds like you got a great deal. Love the red and white colors on the 190. Maybe sell the blue bimini and get a red one.
Not sure if this will apply to your fuel problem but I believe there is a screen on the fuel pump inlet that has been known to get plugged up. Read through this post maybe it will help.
http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=43042&highlight=fuel+filter+screen&page=2

19_Skier
03-22-2012, 02:40 PM
Welcome to TT and congrats on the boat!

repaint the windshield trim


This is on my list as well. Are you planning to paint the whole frame or is it just flaking in places? Mine is just some flaking so I really don't want to pull the windshield off. I'd be curious to see what you come up with here.

imjusthereforthefood
03-22-2012, 03:02 PM
If you buy some Sunbrella in the color you want, your gf's uncle will make short work out of that bimini.

sorry for my ignorance but can you elaborate?

imjusthereforthefood
03-22-2012, 03:03 PM
Welcome to TT and congrats on the boat!



This is on my list as well. Are you planning to paint the whole frame or is it just flaking in places? Mine is just some flaking so I really don't want to pull the windshield off. I'd be curious to see what you come up with here.

undecided. going to look at it next week and decide from there. it's not horrible but it would look a lot better once i polish and buff the hull. if it's not too hard i'll probably just tape off the windows/hull and go to painting. nothing crazy but enough to make a difference:D

shepherd
03-22-2012, 04:00 PM
if it's not too hard i'll probably just tape off the windows/hull and go to painting.

I've done that on my '90 (same windshield). It wasn't really that hard, just plan on using a lot of masking tape!

19_Skier
03-22-2012, 04:34 PM
undecided. going to look at it next week and decide from there. it's not horrible but it would look a lot better once i polish and buff the hull. if it's not too hard i'll probably just tape off the windows/hull and go to painting. nothing crazy but enough to make a difference:D

yeah that is one of the options I leaning towards as well. First step will be getting her out of storage next month :D

Jeff d
03-22-2012, 04:46 PM
sorry for my ignorance but can you elaborate?

Sunbrella is a high end outdoor acrylic fabric. Buy some in the color you want (~$15 per yd) and have someone whose handy with a sewing machine duplicate the current bimini. Then put it on the frame.

learjet2230
03-22-2012, 05:22 PM
Guys I'm running a thread in "appearance" and planning on powdercoating my frame. Going out tomorrow
http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=46123 Not trying to thread jack....just giving options. Im watching this thread and interested!!!!

imjusthereforthefood
03-22-2012, 05:37 PM
i've been watching your thread bud. nice boat.

imjusthereforthefood
03-22-2012, 05:57 PM
also, thoughts on purchasing this for the buff job:

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-667-adams-three-step-machine-polish-bundle.aspx

i ahve a portaer cable buffer and pads.


also, i bought my boat last year in april. probably put 30 hours on it all summer. just curious if i should plan on changing the oil or wait until summer is over?

orbeamlb
03-22-2012, 09:17 PM
Congrats on the "new to you" Prostar. Looks like you got a good deal too! Bought my 88 ProStar 200 over Thanksgiving and had fuel problems. Changed the filters and replaced all the fuel lines. The ethanol was eating up the insides of them.

Enjoy

glgisler
03-22-2012, 09:51 PM
With regard to your fuel problem - you say you replaced the fuel filters. Did this include the one inside the inlet of the carburetor? I've seen carbs with and without, but I'd take a look at this first, then go to the fuel pump inlet as mtajpa suggested.
Beyond this, there is usually a screen on the gas tank pick-up, and if it gets blocked, this could also cause the symptoms you are experiencing. I've never had this happen on a boat, but I've had two cars on which the gas tank pick-up screen got clogged.

mikeg205
03-22-2012, 10:55 PM
Hey guys, love the forums. Long-time lurker. Figured I'd make my first post. I bought this 87 PS190 last year for a hair over $6k. I love the boat and it's been a dream since day 1. It came with perfect pass(main reason why I got it). Has 1000 hours on it and is in good shape for the age. I'm about to start cleaning her up and getting it ready to take out. I've got a few projects I want to do to it:

dual batteries(where can I put the second battery?)
give it a good buying/waxing(using dual-action porter cable but what kind of pads and chemicals?)
repaint the windshield trim
upholstery and vinyl wrap(gf's uncle does upholstery and buddy owns a vinyl wrap company)

Just curious aside from those questions above, what is a list or check-offs I can do to get it ready. Looking for what others do to their rig before season every year. Going to give it a nice cleaning with a steam cleaner, carpet extractor and buffer in the next oncoming weeks.
new boat cover



Also, another reason why I made this thread. I started to make a new thread since it's a topic of it's own but I had a small problem with it last year. One day we ran the boat almost bone dry(had riders on one side of boat to get the last bit of fuel). Ever since then I've had a fuel problem. I figured it had trash in it. I ran a can of seafoam in it and still had the problem. Replaced the fuel filters and still had the problem. Here's my best description of what it does:

Once I get to a cruising speed it'll "miss" or "sputter" on me. It'll sort of cough/choke for a second then continue to try and run. If I back off the throttle it gets better but sometimes when I pushed it the engine would die. It will idle all day and 75% of the time it runs fine but a handful of times last summer I had to just baby the throttle going around the lake. When it did die I would have to pop the top off of the carb and poor a bottle cap's worth of gasoline in it top of the carb(and sometimes uses starter fluid) while cranking the engine then it would eventually start up. If you have any other questions I'll try my best to answer it. I've heard and read a little about fuel evaporation(fuel getting too hot) so I put foil on the metal fuel line that leads into the carb. I didn't have any problems with it after that but only ran it one weekend after that so I'm unsure if it fixed it.


Also, one last question, my bimini top. It came blue. Rather than buy a new one I heard people paint/dye them. Any comment on that?

If I could get these questions answered and advice it would make my day. I'll try and get more pics before/after when I buff it, etc.

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3221/25390117423841318631606.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/27/25390117423841318631606.jpg/)

Nice and welcome... ahh a red solo cup...there will be some fun this summer.... :D

imjusthereforthefood
03-26-2012, 05:12 PM
here's a few pics of my boat last year.

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5433/dsc00353medium.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/dsc00353medium.jpg/)
http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/6950/dsc00351medium.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/dsc00351medium.jpg/)

curious if you guys think i should go ahead and order the below materials to clean it up a bit, any suggestions are welcome(using a porter cable buffer):

http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-667-adams-three-step-machine-polish-bundle.aspx
http://www.adamspolishes.com/p-558-adams-flex-polisher-foam-pad-kit.aspx

imjusthereforthefood
03-26-2012, 05:28 PM
thinking of picking this up, just want to see if you guys think it'll suffice?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-BOW-BIMINI-BOAT-COVER-TOP-85-90-W-BOOT-BURGUNDY-6-FT-INCLUDES-HARDWARE-/300682330023?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4602103fa7&vxp=mtr#ht_3084wt_1019

d2jp
03-26-2012, 08:36 PM
thinking of picking this up, just want to see if you guys think it'll suffice?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-3-BOW-BIMINI-BOAT-COVER-TOP-85-90-W-BOOT-BURGUNDY-6-FT-INCLUDES-HARDWARE-/300682330023?pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&hash=item4602103fa7&vxp=mtr#ht_3084wt_1019

Looks like it would work. Does your current bimini fold foward of the windshield for storage?

You'll need to get the zipper added for the flyhigh pylon.

I think the biggest contributor to bimini cost is the fabric itself. Sunbrella seems to be the 'go to' for longest lasting, most fade resistant, etc.

Nice boat...I picked up an '89 PS190 last year with 325 hours on it.

imjusthereforthefood
03-27-2012, 08:21 AM
Looks like it would work. Does your current bimini fold foward of the windshield for storage?

You'll need to get the zipper added for the flyhigh pylon.

I think the biggest contributor to bimini cost is the fabric itself. Sunbrella seems to be the 'go to' for longest lasting, most fade resistant, etc.

Nice boat...I picked up an '89 PS190 last year with 325 hours on it.

it folds either way. didn't even think about the pylon being an issue.. i guess take it to a fabricator?

imjusthereforthefood
03-27-2012, 11:58 AM
Just read shepard's resto thread.

I'm assuming this is the boatcare kit he bought:

http://www.premiumboatcare.com/gel-coat-light-oxidation-kit.html

the $99 kit.

just need a go ahead from you guys and i'm going to purchase it.

Patrick Hardy
03-27-2012, 12:56 PM
Just read shepard's resto thread.

I'm assuming this is the boat care kit he bought:

http://www.premiumboatcare.com/gel-coat-light-oxidation-kit.html

the $99 kit.

just need a go ahead from you guys and I'm going to purchase it.

That is a great price for that kit, if I did not already have a lot of 3M products, I would buy that kit for sure.

IMO you should ALWAYS buy and use products designed specifically for boats, some owners use auto products on their boats. You will get a lot of different opinions on using Marine Sealants, but I have seen some fantastic looking boats that have used them.

imjusthereforthefood
03-27-2012, 03:10 PM
That is a great price for that kit, if I did not already have a lot of 3M products, I would buy that kit for sure.

IMO you should ALWAYS buy and use products designed specifically for boats, some owners use auto products on their boats. You will get a lot of different opinions on using Marine Sealants, but I have seen some fantastic looking boats that have used them.

alright, one last question about this subject.. what about this kit:

http://redirect.anandtech.com/r?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com%2FMeguiars-Marine-Fiberglass-Restoration-System%2Fdp%2FB0000AY4YT%2Fref%3Dsr_1_2%3Fie%3DUTF 8%26qid%3D1332871630%26sr%3D8-2&user=u00000687


also, a little confused on what pads to get, wool or foam? they make it harder than it should be by having 5 products that do the same thing:rolleyes:

d2jp
03-27-2012, 09:54 PM
it folds either way. didn't even think about the pylon being an issue.. i guess take it to a fabricator?

Yes, after test fitting on your boat any local upholstery shop should be able to put a zipper in for you. You can mark the area you want it installed in, pull one side of the bimini towards the center and you should find screws where the bimini connects the top/side frame. Take it apart, pull off the fabric top.

imjusthereforthefood
04-24-2012, 09:58 AM
took a ton of pics recently. will upload this week and hopefully keep all my questions in this thread.

ordered a new prop, hopefully it'll be here this week. still have a few things to do this week before the weekend.

try to fix gas gauge, randomly just stopped working?
test out barefoot boom(wakeskating behind it should be super fun.
put my seat back together.

imjusthereforthefood
04-24-2012, 10:19 AM
Looking at a few marine radio covers.. comments on these? there's not much room above the stereo on my boat so i'm curious what radio covers you guys used with similar boats? i don't want the radio cover to be higher than the fiberglass that runs above the stereo hole...

any one?

d2jp
04-24-2012, 09:49 PM
Looking at a few marine radio covers.. comments on these? there's not much room above the stereo on my boat so i'm curious what radio covers you guys used with similar boats? i don't want the radio cover to be higher than the fiberglass that runs above the stereo hole...

any one?

I couldn't find any new radio covers that would fit my '89, besides the old-school one that came with it. they are all too large and will stick up way beyond the radio hole. My boat had an old Pioneer Supertuner installed that was the 2-post style. New receivers are single-DIN, which requires a larger cutout and my old-school radio cover would not work. I almost decided not to install a receiver, just mount an amp under the bow and connect an iPod direct to it, either wired or bluetooth.
However, I decided to try the Fusion MS-RA200 (http://www.fusionelectronics.com/marine/products/head-units-200-series/MS-RA200). It requires a much smaller cutout than the single-DIN, is totally waterproof so it doesn't need a cover, and at $200 is pretty cheap. I'm probably in the minority, as a 'killer system' just doesn't do it for me, but I do want some tunes on the boat. Install was a piece of cake, and I like the unit, it integrates with ipod, iphone nicely and charges them while connected.
I can provide pics if you'd like to see them. Or, if you want my old radio cover let me know, it's yours for the postage.
Jack

imjusthereforthefood
04-26-2012, 11:13 AM
I couldn't find any new radio covers that would fit my '89, besides the old-school one that came with it. they are all too large and will stick up way beyond the radio hole. My boat had an old Pioneer Supertuner installed that was the 2-post style. New receivers are single-DIN, which requires a larger cutout and my old-school radio cover would not work. I almost decided not to install a receiver, just mount an amp under the bow and connect an iPod direct to it, either wired or bluetooth.
However, I decided to try the Fusion MS-RA200 (http://www.fusionelectronics.com/marine/products/head-units-200-series/MS-RA200). It requires a much smaller cutout than the single-DIN, is totally waterproof so it doesn't need a cover, and at $200 is pretty cheap. I'm probably in the minority, as a 'killer system' just doesn't do it for me, but I do want some tunes on the boat. Install was a piece of cake, and I like the unit, it integrates with ipod, iphone nicely and charges them while connected.
I can provide pics if you'd like to see them. Or, if you want my old radio cover let me know, it's yours for the postage.
Jack



pic of old radio cover?

d2jp
04-26-2012, 05:17 PM
Old cover:
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/d2jp/MasterCraft/cover2jph.jpg
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/d2jp/MasterCraft/cover.jpg
There is a foam gasket on the backside of the cover where it rests against the fiberglass. There is not a gasket where the cover closes. It never allowed water in that I could tell.

Fusion:
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/d2jp/MasterCraft/fusion1.jpg
This unit is fully waterproof and doesn't need a cover. 5 year warranty also.

PS - crappy cell phone pics, best I could do quickly.

imjusthereforthefood
04-27-2012, 10:43 AM
thanks.. the piece with the two holes and the square opening in the middle. does that come off or what? seems like you couldn't see my entire deck with that piece in there.

imjusthereforthefood
04-27-2012, 10:45 AM
also guys, question about my ski boom.. just connect the latch to the pylon in the boat and the cable guide to the nose and that's it, correct? should i put a towel under the part of the boom that will(i assume) rest on side of the boat..?

tph
04-27-2012, 03:07 PM
"I'm probably in the minority, as a 'killer system' just doesn't do it for me, but I do want some tunes on the boat."

Then, I'm in the minority too!

tph
04-27-2012, 03:17 PM
also guys, question about my ski boom.. just connect the latch to the pylon in the boat and the cable guide to the nose and that's it, correct? should i put a towel under the part of the boom that will(i assume) rest on side of the boat..?

The booms normally have a vinyl sleeve that slides over the boom and protects the gunnel.

d2jp
04-27-2012, 05:58 PM
thanks.. the piece with the two holes and the square opening in the middle. does that come off or what? seems like you couldn't see my entire deck with that piece in there.

You'd have to cut that. Do you have a two post or a single-DIN receiver? The problem with the single-DIN, this cover probably won't work (at least I couldn't find a way to make it work), b/c that cutout is almost as big as the protective cover. The other problem is there isn't a a cover that I could find (Overton's, Amazon, West Marine) that would fit into the area where my receiver was located.

I'd considered having a piece of plastic cut at a sign shop, get a MasterCraft decal on it and mount it to cover the old holes on the 'dash'. I was then going to use just an amp/ipod. As I mentioned, I found the Fusion and it does what I wanted it to do for pretty cheap and easy.

imjusthereforthefood
05-01-2012, 12:05 PM
Hey all! Thanks for all the posts and help, love the forums!

Got the new prop put one. I will say it feels like there's more vibration when I really get on it. Not saying a huge difference in my old prop but I want to say it selt a lot different. Also, if I'm going and let go of the wheel the boat takes a HARD right. Not sure what would cause that. Going to look at the 3 middle fins this evening. I want to say my last prop was an OJ805 and the new one is an OJ306? Will confirm later.. Wouldn't the only thing affecting the hard right turn be the middle fins, bent prop or rudder?


I'm thinking I need a new battery as well. When I have my perfect pass plugged up I can't get over 11 volts. So unless I'm going past idle(10mph+) there's not enough voltage to keep the PP running so it beeps over, and over, and over...

I would love a yellow top battery but they are about $150. Any other suggestions that will give me full voltage but not break the bank?

Engine ran GREAT! Reall been cleaning on it, can't wait to get pics up of it.

Finally got a backing plate this week and will start buffing it finally. Also need to take a look at my fuel gauge as it's not working at all. Going to search around on a few things to check.

cbryan70
05-01-2012, 12:10 PM
the hard right is normal.....it is a loaded prop to help you hold a strait line through the course. You have to shave teh rudder to remove it.

imjusthereforthefood
05-01-2012, 12:37 PM
the hard right is normal.....it is a loaded prop to help you hold a strait line through the course. You have to shave teh rudder to remove it.

i don't remember the right turn being that hard but if it's normal, no worries.

shaving the prop?:confused:

cbryan70
05-01-2012, 12:38 PM
You shave the rudder. In the FAQ's thread there is information on it.

imjusthereforthefood
05-02-2012, 11:14 AM
any battery suggestions that will run two amps(400w for sub and smaller amp fo 6x9s) and perfect pass?

the one i have stays at 11 volts with PP plugged in, resetting every second due to voltage.

catamount
05-02-2012, 11:40 AM
Old cover:
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/d2jp/MasterCraft/cover2jph.jpg
http://i427.photobucket.com/albums/pp355/d2jp/MasterCraft/cover.jpg
There is a foam gasket on the backside of the cover where it rests against the fiberglass. There is not a gasket where the cover closes. It never allowed water in that I could tell.


This is the one I modified to work on my '87.

Details here: http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=47262

http://i.imgur.com/x26TR.jpg

imjusthereforthefood
05-02-2012, 11:56 AM
nice! probably will end up doing that.

question for ski boom. where do i hook up the cables to the front of the boat? there's a hook on top(on the nose) or the front hook on the bottom side that hooks up to the trailer?

SkiDog
05-02-2012, 03:27 PM
nice! probably will end up doing that.

question for ski boom. where do i hook up the cables to the front of the boat? there's a hook on top(on the nose) or the front hook on the bottom side that hooks up to the trailer?

Use the bottom bow hook.

imjusthereforthefood
05-17-2012, 02:25 PM
FINALLY got my pics uploaded. Probably about to put this up for sale.. Just wanting a few more things that take priority over a boat right now:( She's a GREAT boat and I'll probably regret it but I just have bigger fish to fry right now.


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