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carlsonwa
03-15-2012, 12:25 PM
I have been chasing my tail lately with all the shops around Minneapolis that make custom covers. Need something that fits my 99' Sportstar with a New Dimension tower, "like a glove" for towing and throwing the cover on when there is still moisture inside.

Want to go with a racheting cover so it can be used in the water or on the trailer.

One shop wants to use: Aquatop, which I have had lots of feedback that it won't breathe at all, or minimal with vents.
Same place said they have used top gun material before and it scratches.

One shop wants to use either sunbrella or sur-last.
seems like the new Mastercrafts use sur-last, but a few reviews on teamtalk have been negative about the number of years it has held up.

I only keep my boat outside, on the trailer for the summer months. In covered storage throughout the winter months.

Any feedback would be great!

Quotes around Minneapolis vary from 600-1400.

Would be nice to be locally made so that it fits great and any warrenty work would be local.

Wayne

LaRue
03-15-2012, 12:27 PM
did you talk to Midwest Mastercraft about their covers?

Ben
03-15-2012, 12:59 PM
I got a new cover last year for my 94. I think the old one was original. Is was sunbrella, and black. It worked well to dry the boat in the sun when covered, although it would be hot if I would take the cover off mid afternoon. I didn't put the boat away insanely wet though. I easily picked sunbrella again. The old one wasn't torn, or really leaked, but instead would drop little black dust inside the boat I could see in fiberglass spots - maybe disintegrating after 17 years?

I have heard good things about skiboatcovers.com. I wished I used them vs. the local shop I am still messing with to get the fit right.

I use the ratchet for simplicity, don't tow with a cover. If you are in the sun where your trailer parks, I'd consider side skirts. Also may want to consider platform extension / cover.

rgardjr1
03-15-2012, 02:08 PM
One shop wants to use either sunbrella or sur-last.
seems like the new Mastercrafts use sur-last, but a few reviews on teamtalk have been negative about the number of years it has held up.Wayne

I've had a couple of the Surlast MC covers for my boat. The first one lasted 3 summers before it needed to be replaced. My boat floats in a uncovered slip from the 4th of July to mid September. The Surlast eventually started ripping from the UV damage it received. The fit of the MC factory covers is great and I was able to pick them up pretty cheap on Ebay and from the classifieds on this site ($150-$200). I did tow with the cover on a couple of times and it did a good job. I'm pretty sure that there will be some scratching from using the MC cover while trailering as there was quite a bit on my boat when I bought it used. The previous owner towed the boat from San Diego to Sandpoint, ID with the factory cover on the boat. The previous owner was pretty much an idiot given the factory MC cover that came with the boat had pretty much been ruined by him on this trip. My guess is he didn't secure the cover properly and at some point it came off the boat breaking some of the buckles and other straps. The next cover I buy will be a Sunbrella cover from skiboatcovers.com.

carlsonwa
03-29-2012, 09:48 AM
Old Cover

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/cover.jpg

New Cover

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1105.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1116.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1114.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1119.jpg

http://i723.photobucket.com/albums/ww238/wayne_carlson/IMG_1111.jpg

east tx skier
03-29-2012, 11:57 AM
I would advise against covering your boat when it's wet. Sunbrella breathes, but Sunbrella covers are treated for water and UV resistance. Bottom line is if you cover wet, you are going to have some mildew issues.

If you store outside, be sure your cover can have a detachable skirt so that your gel coat doesn't fade from being stored in the sun.

Finally, a truly trailerable cover isn't going to have any straps going to the trailer. The ratchet/turnbuckle works great for cinching up the draw string, but to have something really not move when you are on the highway, you need something like Rankin (out of business), Coversports, or Evolution. These three covers are all essentially the same design (Brent at Coversports and the guy that started Evolution are former Rankin employees). The covers are top notch and are truly trailerable. They are held on by velcro rubrail hooks, cinchable veclro rubrail hooks at the transom, and a turnbuckle on the draw string. No poles required.

Here's my Coversports cover. I have had it for about 3 years now and it has held up great.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BoFEwTkOE34/TaJ5SziKhgI/AAAAAAAAD00/mt3zBaOMkqw/s912/IMAG0050.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1HI9nI9yaT8/St_WPM0JWkI/AAAAAAAACfQ/Ccs7k_9Z4WA/s650/Cover%25201.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j_21q47f-W0/St_WPJ6HR6I/AAAAAAAACfU/HTDrIame_tY/s650/Cover2.JPG

carlsonwa
03-29-2012, 01:06 PM
I pulled the trigger on that black one... It has a wratcheting loop around the perimeter of the boat as well as I had them add a few loops in case I wanted a little more tension to the trailer when towing..

mlawler34
03-29-2012, 01:25 PM
I would advise against covering your boat when it's wet. Sunbrella breathes, but Sunbrella covers are treated for water and UV resistance. Bottom line is if you cover wet, you are going to have some mildew issues.

If you store outside, be sure your cover can have a detachable skirt so that your gel coat doesn't fade from being stored in the sun.

Finally, a truly trailerable cover isn't going to have any straps going to the trailer. The ratchet/turnbuckle works great for cinching up the draw string, but to have something really not move when you are on the highway, you need something like Rankin (out of business), Coversports, or Evolution. These three covers are all essentially the same design (Brent at Coversports and the guy that started Evolution are former Rankin employees). The covers are top notch and are truly trailerable. They are held on by velcro rubrail hooks, cinchable veclro rubrail hooks at the transom, and a turnbuckle on the draw string. No poles required.

Here's my Coversports cover. I have had it for about 3 years now and it has held up great.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-BoFEwTkOE34/TaJ5SziKhgI/AAAAAAAAD00/mt3zBaOMkqw/s912/IMAG0050.jpg

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-1HI9nI9yaT8/St_WPM0JWkI/AAAAAAAACfQ/Ccs7k_9Z4WA/s650/Cover%25201.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-j_21q47f-W0/St_WPJ6HR6I/AAAAAAAACfU/HTDrIame_tY/s650/Cover2.JPG

Im really interested in these two companies. The cover I have on my newly purchased 2004 Xstar is the old factory cover and i have to strap it down fairly well to tow with it. Plus if i leave it in the water, im not sure it would stay on by itself in high wind situations, since i dont have anywhere to strap it down.

What do one of these covers go for?

carlsonwa
03-29-2012, 02:51 PM
I went with aquatop material. For good water repelling and trailering. Ran me just over $600.

mlawler34
03-29-2012, 03:14 PM
Thats not bad. Would love to know what those Coversports or evolution go for. They look like they really do the job in all aspects.

ricford
03-29-2012, 03:18 PM
I had a quote of 800 from Coversports for a PS190

mlawler34
03-29-2012, 04:25 PM
Thats not bad at all. Worth the extra money I would assume. Thanks for the input.

east tx skier
03-29-2012, 05:26 PM
Im really interested in these two companies. The cover I have on my newly purchased 2004 Xstar is the old factory cover and i have to strap it down fairly well to tow with it. Plus if i leave it in the water, im not sure it would stay on by itself in high wind situations, since i dont have anywhere to strap it down.

What do one of these covers go for?

Mine was $720 in 2008. Any color, but red would have been $50 cheaper. That price included shipping. Tower cutouts drive the price up.

Be very careful towing with a cover not specifically designed for trailering. I have never seen one with trailer straps that was truly trailerable. A cover that doesn't have extra padding or moves the least little bit at speed is not what I would consider trailerable. What happens is the cover will get some dirt in it over time and will be the equivalent of taking sandpaper to your hull as it moves around ever so slightly. I made that mistake with my last boat and it took a ton of elbow grease to buff out those scratches. I would rather tow through a monsoon with no cover than to risk the scratches I caused again. You can tell if you have scratched the boat up by taking the back of your hand along the gunnel decking. If it doesn't feel like glass, consider some serious padding under your cover or a trailerable cover.

I have towed with my Coversports cover through some of the worst rain I have ever seen. When I got the boat home, it was bone dry. That said, if it's nice weather, I don't tow with the cover on. 70 mph winds aren't good for the longevity of anything and I'd just as soon not have to buy another cover any time soon.

mlawler34
03-29-2012, 08:38 PM
Thank you very much for all that insight. Definitely something to think about. On long trips I will probably tow without a cover for sure until I can get one of the Coversports. Definitely appreciate all the help.