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TN X-45
03-01-2012, 06:16 PM
Just bought a piggy back system for my 2008 X-45 from wakemakers. Bought a 750 for the port rear locker and a 450 for the port cooler that is plumbed into the starboard side. Thought that was pretty creative of wakemakers. Thanks to Spencer! Any do's/dont's for the install from others that have put this in?

V-man
03-03-2012, 01:29 AM
The 750 will work well for the port locker. You can remove the back part of the locker to expand the space in order to let the bag fill completely. You will need to reset the timers on the pump to allow for the extra fill time. You will also need to consider where you want the port cooler bag to vent. I chose to install an additional pump to fill the port side "surf sac" and drill a dedicated vent on the port side toward the bow. You might consider using a larger custom fit sac under the cooler seat that runs through the board locker and vents towards the bow. It will hold about 900 and the 45 is more than capable of handling this weight. You can manually fill a 450 on the port seat or put most of the people ballast on surf side and you'll have a sizable swell.

AZX45OD
03-03-2012, 01:43 AM
V-man: Do you have any pics of your surf wake? It sounds as though you have a great formula.

TN X-45
03-03-2012, 08:56 AM
V-man, I am running the port bag off of the starboard pump/vent and will "t-off" the starboard hard tanks so that they do not fill. Will that work? I wanted to start here and then see what the wave looks like. I have a couple of other manual bags that I want to experiment with. Not sure if I am going to need any up from. I have surf tabs and the A plate.

V-man
03-03-2012, 09:30 PM
AZ. Have a lot of our media on these sights:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/wakesurfaz
http://www.youtube.com/user/wakesurfaz?feature=mhee

V-man
03-03-2012, 10:09 PM
TN. So, I think what you are trying to accomplish is filling a port side 450 bag using the starboard pump, and then venting through the starboard vent. And using valves to isolate the hard take. I think this might be a good solution and if wakemakers suggested this it will probably work. Some things to consider before doing the install:

You will want more weight on the surf side and towards the bow will definitely lengthen the pocket. We run close to 2500 lbs including the KGB.

Might be a good idea to take some sacs and a couple of tsunamis and go out and try different configurations...We do not have the surf tabs, so I do not know how those can help.

Keep us updated on your findings.

TN X-45
03-04-2012, 05:26 PM
That's exactly right. A couple more weeks and we should be able to get out in GA. I am wondering if my Attitude plate will do what I want in terms of dropping the bow, but suspect I will need ballast for that. We shall see. Im not sure if the A plate will mess up the shape of the wake either.

MASTIQUE
03-04-2012, 07:29 PM
Take pics of you step by step install and post!!!

V-man
03-06-2012, 04:26 AM
My experience with the trim tab/attitude plate is that it will only knock down the wake and take away the push. We run the trim tab all the way up at all times. Try adding a 400 in the board locker and see how you like the wake. So, 750 in port locker, 450 under cooler seat, 400 in board locker, port stock 250, kgb 500, people weight on port side, or 400 on seat if no peeps. Trim tab up, speed at 11.5 knots (gps calibrated). I think you will like this configuration. Next step would be to try a smaller swim platform which will clean up the wake. Have fun!

CantRepeat
03-06-2012, 05:57 AM
My experience with the trim tab/attitude plate is that it will only knock down the wake and take away the push. We run the trim tab all the way up at all times. Try adding a 400 in the board locker and see how you like the wake. So, 750 in port locker, 450 under cooler seat, 400 in board locker, port stock 250, kgb 500, people weight on port side, or 400 on seat if no peeps. Trim tab up, speed at 11.5 knots (gps calibrated). I think you will like this configuration. Next step would be to try a smaller swim platform which will clean up the wake. Have fun!

I think you mean mph??

V-man
03-06-2012, 05:16 PM
I think you mean mph??

Good point. I use an app called Boat Speed and it is in MPH.

wilhelmwake
05-11-2014, 10:41 AM
HAs anyone of you guys used shut off valves with the piggy bag bow ballast bags to direct the weight to either port or starboard side? Also has anyone of you linked more than 2 bags behind one pump?

x45surfer
05-27-2014, 12:47 PM
I have a question. I have a 2009 X45 I used the piggy back system and have a 1100 bag in the port locker on top of the 250 hard tank. I have taken out the back panel and it fills up almost completely. I also use a tsunami pump to fill a 750 in the board locker which fits great.

We never really wake board or surf so I was thinking about plumbing the starboard pump to help fill the 1100 bag because it takes so long.

Question:

Should I funnel the starboard pump into the top of the bag or buy a Y valve and let it pump in the bottom of the bag like the standard port pump does?

Thanks,