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holdenh2o
02-22-2012, 11:21 PM
Would you go for louder/more speakers or the newer technology/fewer speakers? Cost is practically a push.

rgardjr1
02-22-2012, 11:54 PM
I've had a pair of Pro 485s for the past to years and have been very happy with them. The man you need to talk to about this question is David from Earmark-hopefully he'll find this thread and weigh in. I think there was a thread about 4 Rev 10s vs a pair of Pro 485s on wake world not too long ago, but I couldn't find it.

holdenh2o
02-23-2012, 09:27 AM
Really down to the two options. I think I'm leaning towards the rev 10s. I ask bc costs will be relatively the same for each set up. Just wonder if more speakers is more desirable than the new rev technology.

gts-20
02-23-2012, 09:51 AM
A friend of ours has the "3some" on his Crownline tower. I'm not sure what he is powering it with, but it doesn't sound that good. He may be underpowering it. I have also heard the REV10's on a X-25 , and they sounded amazing, but again, I'm not sure what was powering them.

EarmarkMarine
02-23-2012, 10:06 AM
holdenh2o,
Here are a couple of issues to consider.
For sound quality:
The Pro80 is very LOUD but has a bit of an erratic response.
The Pro485 has a very flat response and as a result is upfront in the midrange much like the REV8.
The REV10 has a midrange that is comparably a bit recessed. It has a bit of extra kick in the upper treble but well above the vocal range so this only accentuates upper harmonics and percussion for example. There is greater midbass extension with the 10" driver.
The REV8, REV10 and Pro485 all have one thing in common. Even though each has its own sonic signature and a little tilt or bias that differentiates each one from the other (perhaps more apparant to someone who compares them side by side daily)...the octave to octave balance is very smooth with all three so there is no peakiness with any of these speakers.
For SPL:
Its all about surface area. An 8" driver usually has about 32 sq.in. of effective piston area. A 10" driver has 53.50 sq.in. The sum of the speakers will determine the potential output if equally powered. So its simple math for SPL when working within the same brand with similar construction. A 1 dB difference is the smallest increment you can discern and it will take a one-third increase in surface area to achieve that.
You also have to look at powering the tower systems. A 3-Some is a bit of an odd duck to power and usually more expensive.

David
Earmark Marine

GT500 MC
02-23-2012, 10:33 AM
holdenh2o,
You also have to look at powering the tower systems. A 3-Some is a bit of an odd duck to power and usually more expensive.

David
Earmark Marine

Why do I find that statement hilarious????? A would imagine a 3-some would soak up a lot of energy, as well as being potentially expensive if exposed....:D:D

holdenh2o
02-23-2012, 12:46 PM
Why do I find that statement hilarious????? A would imagine a 3-some would soak up a lot of energy, as well as being potentially expensive if exposed....:D:D

Haha!

Thanks,

David - I was thinking there might be more unseen considerations with the 3-some. I think I'm going rev 10s. Still worried what they will look like on my mini:D??? May go with the rev 8s, but the cartoonishly oversized 10s on the mini might be fun;)

gts-20
02-23-2012, 01:05 PM
Haha!

Thanks,

David - I was thinking there might be more unseen considerations with the 3-some. I think I'm going rev 10s. Still worried what they will look like on my mini:D??? May go with the rev 8s, but the cartoonishly oversized 10s on the mini might be fun;)

Check the hang height on the speakers you want. If you have a DD and a mini, and you mount them like mine, they could interfer with the motor cover opening. (mine do not). If you mount them on the outer mounts, your passengers will have to crawl under them to move about the boat.

holdenh2o
02-23-2012, 01:25 PM
gts-20,

I saw your setup in the other thread. I have the new dimensions "mini", so a little bit different tower. Are those exiles the same size as the rev 10s? If so, doesn't look like I'm going to have a problem. I hadn't thought of the engine compartment though. Hmmm. I've gotta take a tape measure to the boat.

gts-20
02-23-2012, 01:39 PM
gts-20,

I saw your setup in the other thread. I have the new dimensions "mini", so a little bit different tower. Are those exiles the same size as the rev 10s? If so, doesn't look like I'm going to have a problem. I hadn't thought of the engine compartment though. Hmmm. I've gotta take a tape measure to the boat.

I believe the REV10's are much larger. I thnk they are a true 10" speaker. My speakers are small in comparison. They are only 6.5""

EarmarkMarine
02-23-2012, 01:48 PM
GT500 MC,
I really have no explanation for why you have these outbursts. It could possibly be caffeine, sugar, sleep deprivation or some combination.

holdenh20,
Keep in mind that the REV10 is essentially in the identical pod as the Pro80. Only the face bezel is different. So either is large. There is never going to be a substitute for the pod displacement and cone area of the REV10.
But if size does determine your choice you will not find a more musically accurate HLCD than the REV8.

David
Earmark Marine

EarmarkMarine
02-23-2012, 01:52 PM
Btw, the Wetsounds REV8 uses the same size pod as the previous Pro60 (6.5") so its very compact. And you can get the swivel/detachable collar as well to mate up to the MC tower pads.

David
Earmark Marine