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Drodey
02-17-2012, 07:18 PM
Looking at upgrading my my 89 prostar and have an opportunity to pick up a 2002 TT 190 for a what I think is a good price. Boat is in excellent condition and loaded with options. Same owner for last 8 years. My only issue with it is that it has 1600 hours on it. Boat has been well maintained and stored in garage all of it's life. Any ideas on value of the boat?

Drodey
02-27-2012, 09:43 AM
BUMP.....Anybody?

DemolitionMan
02-27-2012, 09:45 AM
That is a lot of hours.

east tx skier
02-27-2012, 09:47 AM
Does it have a hook in the hull or does it still have a foiled rudder?

mikeg205
02-27-2012, 09:48 AM
Looking at upgrading my my 89 prostar and have an opportunity to pick up a 2002 TT 190 for a what I think is a good price. Boat is in excellent condition and loaded with options. Same owner for last 8 years. My only issue with it is that it has 1600 hours on it. Boat has been well maintained and stored in garage all of it's life. Any ideas on value of the boat?

Pictures of interior and engine would help.

My best guess is $5-$7K - due to the hours.

T Scott
02-27-2012, 09:52 AM
Are you asking for the value of the 02 Prostar 197 or your 89 Prostar 190?

east tx skier
02-27-2012, 09:54 AM
Pictures of interior and engine would help.

My best guess is $5-$7K - due to the hours.

If this boat is in reasonable condition, I'd guess it's worth at least double at $14K. Low retail without a trailer is nearly $15K. I agree that the high hours are going to limit its market, but I don't think they cut its value in half. Just my opinion.

This is my cop out answer: Boat is worth what a buyer and seller agree on. No more. No less.

mikeg205
02-27-2012, 10:00 AM
If this boat is in reasonable condition, I'd guess it's worth at least double at $14K. Low retail without a trailer is nearly $15K. I agree that the high hours are going to limit its market, but I don't think they cut its value in half. Just my opinion.

This is my cop out answer: Boat is worth what a buyer and seller agree on. No more. No less.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, few boats here for with about a 1/3 the hours - a 190 for 11,500 and a 205 with a bunch of extras for $12,000. 1995's 1996's with low hours going for $13-$16K.

Start at $10,000 obo - if you get a bunch of offers at $10K then you know you can get more.

Rockman
02-27-2012, 10:23 AM
That is a lot of hours.

Hell ya! You ain't kiddin' ! ;)

east tx skier
02-27-2012, 10:45 AM
Start at $10,000 obo - if you get a bunch of offers at $10K then you know you can get more.

You only have one chance to be unreasonable. Start high and lower the price. Not the other way around.

If I had to guess, and assuming mechanicals and cosmetics were top notch, I'd say a 2002 197 for $14K will be snapped up without too much waiting around. At 10 years old, I'd be more concerned about it if it only had 100 hours on it. Worst case scenario, you have to do an engine rebuild after 400 or so hours. Nonetheless, I think a lot of buyer are going to shy away from a boat with that many hours on it. But as a seller, I would only need one buyer. As a buyer, were I interested, I would try to negotiate the price based on the hours.

east tx skier
02-27-2012, 10:46 AM
Are you asking for the value of the 02 Prostar 197 or your 89 Prostar 190?

The 02.


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kyfooter
02-27-2012, 12:03 PM
A 2002 TT 197 for $14,000? Am I the only one who thinks this is crazy? I would have had it in the mid $22-$25k range. For the most part, it's the same hull they're using today, which will sell for $48k-$55k or so?

Hours are high, but heck a '95 prostar is selling for $14k. At that price, you could buy the boat, and drop in a new engine and you're still at less than 1/2 of a new 197 with a very similar hull.

I'll agree with the comment though that the boat is worth what a buyer and seller agree upon.

MIskier
02-27-2012, 12:09 PM
Pictures of interior and engine would help.

My best guess is $5-$7K - due to the hours.

He is referring to the 190 not the 89. The seller will probably be asking right around 20k for the boat, and I would say if you get it for 15k it is a screaming deal. 1600 hours isnt anything to worry about if the boat has been well maintained. My parents '88 had nearly 5000 on the original motor and trans when they sold it, and that was 2 years ago, it still is running on the same original motor and trans.

FYI we sold that boat and the trailer for 5k.

MIskier
02-27-2012, 12:14 PM
Does it have a hook in the hull or does it still have a foiled rudder?

'02 TT boats were the first boats to come out the the mold that had the hook added to it.

mikeg205
02-27-2012, 12:25 PM
damn...need to learnt to reed... I was talking about the 89...sorry....my bad...

Bouyhead
02-27-2012, 12:34 PM
Computer controlled hour meters were a nice addition to ski boats, it keeps most people honest. I agree with ETS and MIskier, high hours are new big deal as long as the boat wasn't abused and was properly maintained. IMO combustion engines were designed to spin and be used, not to sit around mothballed.

east tx skier
02-27-2012, 12:36 PM
'02 TT boats were the first boats to come out the the mold that had the hook added to it.

Totally missed the "TT" designation in the title.

The only reason I mentioned $14K was that NADA has it listed at $14.8 Low Retail. Agree with others who say this boat will be in the low to mid $20Ks most likely.

Bouyhead
02-27-2012, 12:36 PM
damn...need to learnt to reed... I was talking about the 89...sorry....my bad...

Suprised no one blasted you earlier!;)

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Drodey
02-29-2012, 09:21 PM
Thanks for all of the input. The boat is in very good to excellent condition despite the high hours. Trailer has a small crack on the fender but is otherwise perfect. The hull does have the hook and as I stated previously it is an 02 TT 190 with factory tower. Boat ran out great on testing so I bought the boat from the estate of a friend of mine that passed. I figure if I have to replace or rebuild the engine I am still ahead of the game for the price. Now time to sell my 89 before the wife finds out. Thanks again.

east tx skier
02-29-2012, 10:38 PM
That is an unbelievable deal. Congrats. Sorry to hear about your friend.

Drodey
02-29-2012, 10:46 PM
Thanks tx skier, cancer really sucks but I know he is better off now. Kinda of a bitter sweet deal in the end.

mikeg205
02-29-2012, 10:52 PM
sorry to hear as well...cancer sucks you are right....at least the MC went to a friend who will care for it...

DemolitionMan
02-29-2012, 11:01 PM
Congrats on the boat! Sorry to hear about your friend. I see you are from Macon what lake are you on?

Drodey
02-29-2012, 11:10 PM
Lake Tobosofkee

h2oskifreak
02-29-2012, 11:16 PM
Drody, I just PM you, but then looke at all your posts and got the answer. Sorry, the 89 is too many hours for me, but your price seems fair. Also sorry about your frien. Nice buy on the 02.

gotta_ski
03-01-2012, 04:18 AM
Congrats on the new boat. Time to post some pics so we can all drool over it.

Bouyhead
03-01-2012, 07:22 AM
Wow, that will go down as the deal of the century. Best of luck with the new boat. Sorry to hear about your friend.

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DooSPX
03-01-2012, 08:43 AM
Sorry to hear about your friend... My thoughts and prayers go out to you and his family. Please post pictures of the boat when you can... If I found a deal like that, I would be hard pressed to pass it up.

D3skier
03-01-2012, 08:56 AM
If this boat is in reasonable condition, I'd guess it's worth at least double at $14K. Low retail without a trailer is nearly $15K. I agree that the high hours are going to limit its market, but I don't think they cut its value in half. Just my opinion.

This is my cop out answer: Boat is worth what a buyer and seller agree on. No more. No less.

that's pretty much the straight forward truth.... I think these "values" are just a base point because like a car that add/deducts for low/high mileage you don't see add/deducts for low/high hours on a boat

DemolitionMan
03-01-2012, 09:03 AM
Lake Tobosofkee

I am North East of you in Augusta.

Drodey
03-26-2012, 01:14 PM
Here are some images of the boat now that it is home. Still have not cleaned it up. Did put new impeller, plugs and Dist cap in it though. Runs greats so far. Thanks to all for the input.

DemolitionMan
03-26-2012, 01:33 PM
Very clean looking boat.

LittleFuss
03-26-2012, 01:54 PM
my 97 190 has 1540 hours on it...stay on top of the maintenance and you should be fine....The GM based Indmar engines are designed to go 5000 hours, that is from a long time marine engine mechanic...With proper recommended maintenance you should be just fine

Drodey
03-26-2012, 05:14 PM
Well she has been well cared for up this point so I plan on making sure that doesn"t change. Thanks for the tip!