View Full Version : Budget HLCD's
02-15-2012, 01:19 AM
I've posted a few times about my new to me Prostar 205v. So far I've ordered a new dimension tower and a new cover set up to work with the tower. I was thinking about wet sounds or the Kicker 6500.2 HLCD's but want to add a decent ballast set up so I was gonna put off the tower speakers or try to find something more economical. Both systems are in the $900-$1000 range. This morning I found a site called Hifisoundconnection.com that had the kickers for $292.00 shipped. They are refurbished but that doesn't bother me. I already pulled the trigger so i hope they work out. I think I'm gonna buy a set of cans loaded with some decent 6.5 coax's and put the hlcds in the new cans and use the coax speakers to replace the clarions in the boat. I have to either have 4 cans or two doubles because the kicker set up uses two 6.5 mids with two separate 6.5 horns instead of stacking them like wet sounds and some of the others. I like the look of 4 cans but I don't like the cost of two sets of wet sounds so this seems like a good fit. One of these days I'll figure out how to post a pic.
02-15-2012, 09:23 AM
dude your my hero. I was gonna order the kickers yesterday and posted about deals. Hopefully you just saved me a few hundred bucks! I buy almost everything refurb so no problemswith that either. Check out a double can setup too. I have the aerial double cans and will be popping these in
02-15-2012, 09:33 AM
I have the aerial double cans and will be popping these in
do you have the bullet shaped ones? If so I do too and was wondering if they would fit that long kicker horn tweeter with the crossover mounted to the back. I doubt the overall depth will be a problem but am concerned about the diameter of the crossover being set that far back.
02-15-2012, 10:01 AM
I have the older barrel style not the bullets. I'm alil concerned about it but we shall see. The mounting depth on the kickers is alil over 7" for the horns. I would think they would clear but I just snapped these up without measuring. For the price I'll go buy another set of cans if they don't work lol. Jeff if I were you I would call up aerial to check the depth since they dont have it listed online. If you do ask about the barrels too lol so I can stop thinking about it today
02-15-2012, 12:31 PM
Any ideas on how these would perform with only 70 watts RMS each? An additional amp wouldn't really be in the budget right now. These speakers actually aren't really in the budget to begin with. Ha! I suppose I could pull my in boat speakers off of the amp, run them off the head unit (18 watts RMS), then give these 200 watts RMS a piece.
02-15-2012, 02:47 PM
I think these are 150w rms. Underpowering speakers=best way to blow them. At that power you are kind of wasting the investment. Check the same site for amps but pretty sure you can find something somewhat cheap to run them and then sell the old amp. I mostly sell the things Im replacing then get new stuff to partially fund it
02-15-2012, 04:29 PM
I'd probably just run them off of my 5 channel amp, giving them 200 watts RMS a piece. Then I'd move my 4 cabin speakers back to the JVC head unit until I could justify another $200 or so for an amp to power them.
02-15-2012, 04:43 PM
I'm right there with you on the budget deal. I just bought a boat that I didn't really need because it was too goo of a deal to pass up. Now I've dropped 2 grand on a tower and am looking at another 2 G's minimum to finish out the tunes and ballast. I want to do it cheap but i want to do it right. It already has a 400 watt memphis amp that im gonna re-purpose for my hlcd's. Just need cans at this point. I have seen a few sets of aerial doubles loaded with kicker coax's go on ebay in the 200 range which i probably should have picked up but i think maybe id rather have seperates because i want to get some of those neoprene covers for storage. To top it all off my wife has no clue what I'm up to. At this point I've only mentioned hearing about a good deal on a boat. So far the UPS guy has been discreet with his delivery placements and I am still flying below the radar.
02-15-2012, 05:12 PM
LOL you are so screwed when she finds out you bought a boat. I went and "looked" at my boat with my now ex long term live in g/f. She was unamused with the boat and pitched a fit about it. The boat is still here........she is not but divorce isnt cheap lol and that boat is now half hers
02-15-2012, 07:37 PM
I'm a general contractor and I'm rehabbing a complex for the guy I bought the boat from so I'll probably call it a trade. She will never know that it didn't already have a tower, ballast and a bad *** stereo. I'm probably still screwed but she'll get past it. You know it's not for me .... It's really for her and the kids! They deserve it! I'm just hoping to learn how to surf behind their boat.
02-16-2012, 12:56 AM
Oh, I gotta hear how this turns out...lol.
02-16-2012, 10:03 AM
^I'm guess not well lol. I measured my cans last night and its all going to depend on how wide it is at the 6 11/16" area. Going to be very very close. If nothing else I can probably put a speaker ring on to give me that tiny extra space
02-16-2012, 10:03 AM
This is a sniplet from another site:
"For a single set of KM6500.2 components, (2 mids, 2 horns) witha power handling of 200 watts RMS your options are:
single ZXM450.2 (class A/B) 150 watts per side
single IX500.2 (full range Class D) 150 watts per side
single IX500.4 (full range Class D) bridged to 250 per side
For the 6-pack, which consists of a KM6500.2 set AND a KM6500 set (4 mids 2 horns) I strongly recommend the following:
pair of IX500.4 each one bridged to give 1000 watts of tower power
pair of ZX300.1 (class A/B) with a KX2 crossover for hi-pass filtering
Or if you want to kick it old school, one of the old 850.2 stereo amplifiers will drive either setup quite well. Just know if you find an old 850.2 is will probably be used or a refurb.
Hope that helps
02-16-2012, 10:16 AM
So, I understand that HLCDs project out better but how does that relate to the volume experienced in the boat vs. your typical full range coaxial speaker in a tower can? At a given volume level on the tower (All other variables held equal) will they be quieter from the perspective of the in boat passengers?
I'm actually pretty satisfied with my 4 Polk DB651 tower speakers but it would be cool if, with HLCDs, I could feed the tower more power, give the rider more sound without blasting the people in the boat.
02-16-2012, 10:36 AM
yea I have (2) clarion 720watt amps, 1 for inside boat speakers, and one for the tower. Planning on bridging the tower setup and leaving the other
02-20-2012, 09:15 PM
They do fit the aerial cans..........and I'm deaf. Note to self: Cranked to full blast in garage 3' away=complete and utter deafness. If I had these when I was married.........I might have been able to kill my ear pain