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WakeRider107
02-10-2012, 03:59 PM
finally
http://wakeboardingmag.com/news/2012/02/10/mastercraft-boats-unveils-new-zero-flex-tower-4/

Nick911
02-10-2012, 04:30 PM
Awesome! I can't see them selling many ZFT-2's after this tower being released.

smsbrett
02-10-2012, 04:38 PM
I like it... looking forward to seeing it in person.

Nick911
02-10-2012, 04:39 PM
My 25 should be shipped to my dealer soon, wonder if my tower will come installed...

MattsCraft
02-10-2012, 04:48 PM
I like it overall much better, but must say the bimini looks goofy8p

Nick911
02-10-2012, 05:20 PM
Agreed, the ZFT-5's does look better.

Jerseydave
02-10-2012, 05:23 PM
Looks awesome! I wonder if it's available in a mini-version for the 197?
That would look sweet!

RWB_XSTAR
02-10-2012, 06:00 PM
It's an improvment...I'll just leave it at that.

Eric2010MCX2
02-13-2012, 12:14 AM
So does this replace the 2? Or is this an upgrade? If its an upgrade, what is the cost?

vision
02-13-2012, 12:47 AM
I like it overall much better, but must say the bimini looks goofy8p

Agreed. Seems cumbersome. But with a Z5 Cargo rack it would look great.

mastercraft210
02-13-2012, 06:13 AM
So does this replace the 2? Or is this an upgrade? If its an upgrade, what is the cost?

The msrp price will be arround $2000 extra .But i think that is a well spent 2 k.
Also the bimini looks better and is not mounted on the windscreen so you can place the cover over the boat with the bimini still standing.

Fab
02-13-2012, 04:29 PM
Am I the only one left loving the good old ZFT3 ??

The ZFT4 looks cool but those 2 points towers have something weird...

FourFourty
02-13-2012, 05:45 PM
Am I the only one left loving the good old ZFT3 ??

The ZFT4 looks cool but those 2 points towers have something weird...

Put simply........ No, Sir. You are not the only one.

Eric2010MCX2
02-13-2012, 09:32 PM
The msrp price will be arround $2000 extra .But i think that is a well spent 2 k.
Also the bimini looks better and is not mounted on the windscreen so you can place the cover over the boat with the bimini still standing.

Thanks! I agree... Well spent.

GT500 MC
02-16-2012, 11:34 AM
Am I the only one left loving the good old ZFT3 ??

The ZFT4 looks cool but those 2 points towers have something weird...

x2....I do have a question though. From the limited pics I've seen, it appears as though this new tower's towpoint is about 2-3 feet further towards the stern than the old zft3 (the zft3 center is basically right at the rear of the driver's seat). IF this is the case, would there be any wake difference (for boarding specifically) between towers? I'm not an engineer by any means, but with the zft3 tower you would think there would be more of an upward lift on the bow due to the two additional tower legs attached up-front, putting more pressure on the stern of the boat, creating a larger wake.

Guess it doesn't matter since you can't get a zft3 anymore, but was just wondering if MC claimed any "performance" difference between towers, other than ease of lowering.

FourFourty
02-16-2012, 12:25 PM
x2....I do have a question though. From the limited pics I've seen, it appears as though this new tower's towpoint is about 2-3 feet further towards the stern than the old zft3 (the zft3 center is basically right at the rear of the driver's seat). IF this is the case, would there be any wake difference (for boarding specifically) between towers? I'm not an engineer by any means, but with the zft3 tower you would think there would be more of an upward lift on the bow due to the two additional tower legs attached up-front, putting more pressure on the stern of the boat, creating a larger wake.

Guess it doesn't matter since you can't get a zft3 anymore, but was just wondering if MC claimed any "performance" difference between towers, other than ease of lowering.

I had actually asked MC about this when I was at the factory a couple weeks ago...... Mostly because I noticed the same thing with the ZFT-5. I was actually told that they couldnt notice any difference in the size of the wake by pulling from a towpoint that is more to the rear of the boat. They did, however, say that they noticed a cleaner wake, at slightly slower speeds, because of it. (more weight staying on the bow). That being said, it was a very small difference.

MIskier
02-16-2012, 12:36 PM
The moment required to trim the boat one inch (standard longitudinal stability calc.) would probably be greater than what a rider could produce. Side to side a rider can easily produce a moment large enough to heel the boat, but I doubt they can noticeably impact the trim of the boat.

mess33
03-19-2012, 12:58 AM
I have a 2008 214. Can I put a zft-4 on it?

MIskier
03-19-2012, 02:46 AM
I have a 2008 214. Can I put a zft-4 on it?

There is no reason that you couldn't per say, but I would imagine that your dealer may want you to order the zft 3. Your boat will have backing plates for a four point tower, and the rear plates will be much smaller than those used on the 2 point tower boats.

snork
03-19-2012, 09:40 AM
any reason you couldn't glass in some larger backing plates?

mess33
03-19-2012, 05:39 PM
My dealer spoke to the factory sales rep and was told the 4 could not go on because of the plates. It certainly appears the plates are in the same position and the size of the base looks pretty similar. I own my own business so I am leary on taking the initial word of a factory sales rep. I want the 4 if I can get it so I want to be absolutely sure whether or not it can be done.

willyt
03-19-2012, 05:45 PM
I know (well... Have been told) they did have to do some additional reinforcement of the hull when they moved to the 2 pointers. Your boat probably lacks this...
IMO zft3 looks better anyway.

MIskier
03-19-2012, 05:47 PM
My dealer spoke to the factory sales rep and was told the 4 could not go on because of the plates. It certainly appears the plates are in the same position and the size of the base looks pretty similar. I own my own business so I am leary on taking the initial word of a factory sales rep. I want the 4 if I can get it so I want to be absolutely sure whether or not it can be done.

The sales rep told your dealer that a 4 point tower could not be added to an '08?! There were only 4 point towers offered up until this year...

MIskier
03-19-2012, 05:48 PM
I know (well... Have been told) they did have to do some additional reinforcement of the hull when they moved to the 2 pointers. Your boat probably lacks this...
IMO zft3 looks better anyway.

They are much larger than the two point tower backing plates. I installed ones for the first R&D power tower boats, and they were much longer to accommodate the added length of the tower feet.

smsbrett
03-19-2012, 06:44 PM
The sales rep told your dealer that a 4 point tower could not be added to an '08?! There were only 4 point towers offered up until this year...

No, I think he meant they said the zft4 couldn't be added...

mess33
03-19-2012, 10:20 PM
It was the zft-4 they said could not install

mess33
03-19-2012, 10:31 PM
I do like the look of the zft-3. I also believe it looks better than the zft-4 but I keep my boat on a boat lift and I really like how easy the tower is to put up and down and the space it requires after it is collapsed. If the zft-4 cannot be done then I will just do the zft-3. I just wanted to get some opinions as this board has been helpful in the past.

jason95gt
03-22-2012, 12:45 PM
You are better off getting a new boat with the tower on it as the reinforcement plates under the new boats with the two point towers is about 3-4ft long and glassed in. To do that swap correctly, you would be looking around $12k due to splitting the deck, the tower, the time, glassing in the steel plates, etc... We had a customer want a power tower and it was the same thing. The backing plates from the ZFT-3(4point) tower is completely different than the ZFT2,4,5p.