95 Ps 190

[6ballsisall]

Hey all, I did a search and didn't find much on the 1995 Prostar 190. Can anyone tell me about this boat? Main questions I am trying to find answers on:

1. Hows the slalom characteristics? Tracking, wake, spray
2. Interior room? Is this boat substantially more roomy than my old 86?
3. Any particular issues with this boat that I should be concerned with?
4. Would you be worried with a 95' that has less than 300 hours on it?
5. If you buy from a MC dealer do they do anything particular to them that might not be done at another brand dealer? I.E. Inspection, etc...
6. What is fair market value for a boat like this if it is clean?
7. How is the rough water ride? I know it's a ski boat but will it be substantially better than my 86' was?

Thanks for all the help guys, hopefully my Erk-like posts can come to an end soon! :uglyhamme

[ski_king]

FRom my limited understandings of a 95...

1. From what I understand, the 95 is almost as good as they come.
2. Yep, but not as much as the new 190/197's3. 4. Would you be worried with a 95' that has less than 300 hours on it?
3. Not as far as I know.
4. Not as long as it was properly maintained.
5. Pass.....
6. Check NADA.com
7. Rough, but much better than the 86.

[Hoosier Bob]

I have heard there were problems with the wakes after 94'. As far as the boat goes I am sure it is fine. Supposedly there were "enhancements" made to the hull via some kind of an extension plate that made it better. I would say from what I have heard and seen there is no comparison to the 91'-94' wakes. 91'-94' spray was the issue I guess. You may be better off, if the decision has not been made, to go with the 94' fuelie or 93' fuelie. They may even be a little cheaper. I have heard after 98' or 99' the wakes returned. I can't imagine it being a bad ski at all. As far as rough water, it is what it is. I don't hear anyone saying any 190/197/205 is a good rough water boat.:twocents:

[c640947]

I own a 95 and I wouldn't trade it for anything. I mostly wakeboard and barefoot now and anyone who has ridden behind it can attest that it has the best wake weighted down of any older boat. Fair value is anywhere between 11 and 14k I believe. Interior room isnt bad, but with all the fat sacs that is my main complaint and the ONLY reason I would trade it - interior room. But I am comparing it to new v drives, so that kinda unfair. Always been a solid boat - I've had mine since it was new and had few problems.

[c640947]

Oh I forgot #7 - stay away from rough water in it.

[east tx skier]

Hey all, I did a search and didn't find much on the 1995 Prostar 190. Can anyone tell me about this boat? Main questions I am trying to find answers on:

1. Hows the slalom characteristics? Tracking, wake, spray
2. Interior room? Is this boat substantially more roomy than my old 86?
3. Any particular issues with this boat that I should be concerned with?
4. Would you be worried with a 95' that has less than 300 hours on it?
5. If you buy from a MC dealer do they do anything particular to them that might not be done at another brand dealer? I.E. Inspection, etc...
6. What is fair market value for a boat like this if it is clean?
7. How is the rough water ride? I know it's a ski boat but will it be substantially better than my 86' was?

Thanks for all the help guys, hopefully my Erk-like posts can come to an end soon! :uglyhamme

Wake is awesome. Slightly taller than the previous hull, but awesome nonetheless. Spray and tracking are much improved. Interior room is greated than on your 86. No issues other than its being a boat. No reason I see to worry. I can't think of any inspection I was told was done to mine (bought from a MC dealer). They detailed it. That's it. Probably depends on the dealer. I'd say around $16K. See www.nada.com. Rough water ride is better than the previous hull and better than your 86. Bit deeper v in the hull.

[Hoosier Bob]

Am I completely wrong or was there a part or alteration for these years that made the wakes very close to or better than the previous years with much less spray? It may be nice to know if the change (if it exists) had been made or not. I would like to know as a 95-98 205 may make the other half very happy and be a very nice upgrade (size)to my 190. It may also be much cheaper than a 197!Oh I forgot #7 - stay away from rough water in it.

[6ballsisall]

HB, would you be referring to the illustrious 98 PS 190 or the hull hooking for some of the PS 205's? I am not sure I have ever heard of hull modifications to an MC other than these two. But I am no expert, just learning like others so if you know otherwise please do share

[Hoosier Bob]

That may be it but for some reason I remember the info being passed around in the early to mid 90's. It would be nice to know what was and what was done to alter the characteristics. I can't believe it could be that mind bending. probably someone complaining the ramp of the wake was off a degree or two. The fact is I had some of my best pulls behind 25 year old boats and all has gotten much better since then. If it does exist it would be nice to know what was done and how MC (I heard) made it much better. My wake is more like bubbles than a wake (and a huge rooster tail at -22) and I think some consessions could be made there. I do have spray but it cools you off on those long runs (if you call 3-4 min long). Anyway they look awesome!HB, would you be referring to the illustrious 98 PS 190 or the hull hooking for some of the PS 205's? I am not sure I have ever heard of hull modifications to an MC other than these two. But I am no expert, just learning like others so if you know otherwise please do share

[bret]

I remeber driving both 95 and 96 models when they came out. The 95 190 was the model that MasterCraft really wanted to improve on the ride for the 190, and they did, even if it meant giving up a bit of the wake from the 94 model. The 95 boat, IMHO, was a much better boat than the 96, which would wet you in a hard right turn like on a private lake and the steering was very heavy. The 95 seemed to have more room for the driver and passengers up front than the 94, I think they also did away with the the small extension of the observers seat and it was almost straight across...IIRC. It sounds like a nice boat your looking at, good luck. If you want to lessen the rooster tail in the course, 22 off, 1/2 a tank of gas or less will help out.

[Flatwaterfooter]

Owned my 95 for almost ten years and have not had a single problem with it. THe engine is very strong (mine has the LT-1). Love the handling and everything about it. Strongly recommend the boat

[6ballsisall]

I am about 99% sure the one I am going to look at doesn't have the LT1. This means it has the 275hp correct? This is fuel injected right? Forgive me for all the questions, I have not been able to reach the seller just yet so I don't have a ton of specifics on the boat yet. If it has the 275 hp motor will it be a 1:1 trans or could it have the powerslot?

[Hoosier Bob]

I don't think the 275 matters. I believe the 1.5 or 1.1 was available on both. 275 is def a fuelie. I don't believe there were any carbs left after 93'. No experience but read alot! So far no issues w/wake from anyone else. We have a couple on our lake but honestly they all look good from the water. Most 95's I believe had similar color schemes to the 91-94. They just look a little beefier to me. More stout and roomy w/o comp'ing size. Do they have the split windshield like the new 190? You are making me hungry! Two boats would be cool, right? After you purchase we need to come up with a mini MC trailer that holds all of the gear so you can anchor it on the lake and leave room for people! Ask Leroy what it is like going from the 230V to my dingy. :twocents:

[east tx skier]

For straight-up slalom, 275 will be plenty. The boat had more wetted surface than the 91-94, so slightly more drag. Maybe 100 lbs heavier. I've skied that hull with a 5.0 liter 260 hp (the sportstar) and it's plenty of pull. I don't think it was a modified hull. I think it was a different hull from the 91--94 models. Same with the 205s from 96 and later. Don't know if I understood that part of the question right though.

[6ballsisall]

Ok so if one was looking at a 95' PS 190 with about 280 hours on it. Immaculate condition inside and out. It has the 275 hp motor with a nice Kenwood Stereo and Heater. Trailer is a single axle MC trailer. Whats a good price???

[erkoehler]

I remeber driving both 95 and 96 models when they came out. The 95 190 was the model that MasterCraft really wanted to improve on the ride for the 190, and they did, even if it meant giving up a bit of the wake from the 94 model. The 95 boat, IMHO, was a much better boat than the 96, which would wet you in a hard right turn like on a private lake and the steering was very heavy. The 95 seemed to have more room for the driver and passengers up front than the 94, I think they also did away with the the small extension of the observers seat and it was almost straight across...IIRC. It sounds like a nice boat your looking at, good luck. If you want to lessen the rooster tail in the course, 22 off, 1/2 a tank of gas or less will help out.


I have a 96 and haven't experience any of the issues that you have stated regaurding steering or spray.

[erkoehler]

Ok so if one was looking at a 95' PS 190 with about 280 hours on it. Immaculate condition inside and out. It has the 275 hp motor with a nice Kenwood Stereo and Heater. Trailer is a single axle MC trailer. Whats a good price???


I would start at $14000.00, remember what I paid for my 1996 which had everything similar to the one you are looking at except the stereo.

[PendO]

FWIW I belive that the 95s-97's had the same hull, which was also the hull of the 19 skier, and the hull of the original X-5, and the hull of the 195... and I also believe that world records were set on the hull (not that the w/r are indicative of how it skis at normal people line lengths). The hulls changed in 98 (same as 99), owned a 98' and loved it, but I know that the glued on pieces were not great from the image standpoint. Our old 98 replaced an 87 ... both were awesome to ski, but you could definitely pull the 87 around in the corners ... the 98 had the powerslot with the LT1 so it tracked better in the corners and could not be pulled around (went out a few times over the top b/c of this;)).

In retrospect probably should have proped down a bit with the 87 ... for price comparisons, I saw a 98 SN for 18.5 with 300 hours and the GT 40 in boise, Spokane dealer recently sold a 2002 195 for 27K (same hull as the 95-97 with a cut out in the bow ... not sure about the "same hull" somebody correct me if I'm wrong). 190's are not common up here, the boat you described would probably be 20K plus especially if it is that clean (makes you think it has been treated right). A guy in boise was selling his 190 (1999) for 25K 1:1 tranny with the LT1, but he was down to 24 off the bat ... never got serious enough to make an offer ... do you have the chance to ski the boat you are looking at?

[east tx skier]

PendOreilleSkier, you're right. Same hulls. 95-97 190, 98--01 19 Skier/Sportstar/Sportstar OB/X5

[Datdude]

I have a 1999 Sportstar closed bow with the 310hp efi and it is an awesome boat. I had a chance to buy a 1995 PS 190 with the LT-1 around 150 hours for $17,000 but the exterior was a little too rough for me(dock rash etc.). My local MC dealer had a 1996 PS 190 with the 275 under 200 hours on the lot for $19,900 and I noticed yesterday that it is gone.

My boat is for sale if anyone is interested

[jimmer2880]

my '95 PS190 has 805 hours on it (as of last night) and 0 problems other than dirt in the fuel. Fixed it by putting a fuel-filter BEFORE the pump, instead of in the stock AFTER location.

Mine is TBI (Non-LT1) and is an awsome all-around boat. 4-blade 13x13 OJ gives me 43-44 top end.

Ohh yeah, the vinyl is still in tip stop shape.