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Alan-S
11-18-2011, 02:25 PM
We have a customer that just ordered a new 2012 and needs to make room. This boat is in absolutely perfect condition.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350508290757

BrianT
11-18-2011, 05:03 PM
Thats an awesome looking boat, but my question is...why would anyone still order a RTP over the MCX?

Alan-S
11-18-2011, 05:41 PM
For the current owner's application; wakeboarding, wakesurfing, and tubing with younger children. The RTP is a fine engine. Even here at 5400' you would be hard pressed to feel a difference in the engines. The MXC definitely adds to the bling factor though.

DemolitionMan
11-18-2011, 06:16 PM
The rtp is always a deal breaker.

CantRepeat
11-19-2011, 09:08 AM
For the current owner's application; wakeboarding, wakesurfing, and tubing with younger children. The RTP is a fine engine. Even here at 5400' you would be hard pressed to feel a difference in the engines. The MXC definitely adds to the bling factor though.

I think there's a little more to it then just bling. :rolleyes:

Lakeside09
11-19-2011, 09:53 AM
I will have to say I had the MCX in my 209 and now have the RTP in my X1. I have not seen any difference in power or performance... even throwing 3000+ pounds in it. If anything the RTP get's better gas mileage.

willyt
11-19-2011, 11:20 AM
Heated drivers and observers seats... But no heater or PP? That's an unusual setup

Alan-S
11-19-2011, 01:43 PM
On our test lake there is a 1.5 mph (GPS) difference at the top end between the MCX and RTP with identical props.

This boat has the MasterCraft cruise system. It works very well with this setup, you would not miss Perfect Pass unless you are going for the rider presets.

CantRepeat
11-19-2011, 02:13 PM
On our test lake there is a 1.5 mph (GPS) difference at the top end between the MCX and RTP with identical props.

This boat has the MasterCraft cruise system. It works very well with this setup, you would not miss Perfect Pass unless you are going for the rider presets.

The biggest difference in MC cruise and PP is the ability to just go full throttle and have PP pick up the speed. You can not do that with MC.

For instance, you have your wife diving the boat and the PP is set to 11.5 she just moves the throttle to wide open and PP picks up the speed.

I had MC cruise and paid the $1100 to get PP put in and the ECM flashed for it.

I'm sure the horse power and torque curve are different between the two engines.

jimmies1
11-19-2011, 03:33 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the guys trying to sell a boat, not get comments on what motors better. In my opinion, these comments are best saved for another thread. Just my $.02
Great looking boat and I am sure someone out there is looking for a similar setup. GLWS!

CantRepeat
11-19-2011, 04:28 PM
Maybe it's just me, but the guys trying to sell a boat, not get comments on what motors better. In my opinion, these comments are best saved for another thread. Just my $.02
Great looking boat and I am sure someone out there is looking for a similar setup. GLWS!

Normally I'd agree.

But when anyone says the RTP is on par with the MCX and that MC cruise is just as good as PP well then something needs to said.

Alan-S
11-19-2011, 05:18 PM
I never made either of those statements.

bbymgr
11-19-2011, 05:51 PM
Looks like a great boat. Someone is going to get a good deal.

Lakeside09
11-19-2011, 06:25 PM
I made the statement having owned both engines... and making the statement to not let the RTP engine turn a buyer away because it is a great motor. Obviously the MCX motor is a little more hot but not many will be able to tell a difference. I had this discussion with the dealer before I purchased the X1 as I was coming from the MCX. (And no it wasn't a sales pitch as I was looking at other boats with the hotter motor.)

Good luck to the seller... Looks like a great boat!

wheeler
11-20-2011, 01:23 PM
The rtp is always a deal breaker.

They make an RTP? :D

-V-
11-20-2011, 02:47 PM
is the RTP the same as the Predetor?

zamboniman
11-21-2011, 02:06 PM
Not to take it too far but fundamentally they are very similar motors. Different intake manifold and a few other odds and ends but more the same than different... minus the shiny intake.

Bottom line both GM derived 5.7L V8's....

CantRepeat
11-21-2011, 02:49 PM
Not to take it too far but fundamentally they are very similar motors. Different intake manifold and a few other odds and ends but more the same than different... minus the shiny intake.

Bottom line both GM derived 5.7L V8's....

Cam, intake and exhaust are different. The tune is different as well; I would say both the fuel and spark tables in the tune are different. What is the same is block, bore, stroke and heads.

scott023
11-21-2011, 03:04 PM
The rtp is always a deal breaker.

Exactly right.

scott023
11-21-2011, 03:05 PM
It is certainly a sharp boat.

zamboniman
11-21-2011, 03:09 PM
Exactly right.

Which is unfortunate.. since it's more than adequate for this boat model and the majority of users.

More often than not just means a better deal for the buyer

jason95gt
11-21-2011, 03:46 PM
As stated, there is little difference in the Rtp and MCX than about 1mph top end on the MCX and a $3500 price tag. The MC cruise for 2011 is more similar to PP than years past too.

scott023
11-21-2011, 03:50 PM
As stated, there is little difference in the Rtp and MCX than about 1mph top end on the MCX and a $3500 price tag. The MC cruise for 2011 is more similar to PP than years past too.

Fuel consumption is higher with the rtp than the mcx.

GT500 MC
11-21-2011, 04:11 PM
You can tell winter is upon most of us...cabin-fever may be settting in....everyone getting a bit nit-picky...always happens.

jason95gt
11-22-2011, 01:35 PM
I beg to differ on the fuel consumption as the MCX is the worst behind the LY6.

bobx1
11-22-2011, 02:24 PM
When I purchased my X1, two dealers told me there was NO reason to pay up to the MCX and promised I would see no difference (and I was not trying to cut cost). They also told me based on the fact I was coming from no speed control, I would absolutley love MC Cruise.

By the way, they were right on both accounts - I have been super pleased with both.

I know the X2 is bigger and heavier and PP has more features but I think an X2/RTP and Master Cruise is a perfectly fine combination for most people.

willyt
11-22-2011, 03:55 PM
I beg to differ on the fuel consumption as the MCX is the worst behind the LY6.

Hahah can 'o worms.

I've heard lots of people rip the big block and ly6 for gas consumption... But never the MCX or RTP. Being the same block, I can't imagine they differ by a lot, but let's not start a fuel consumption debate on a classified add

Have your buddies throw you some more gas money of it really makes that big of a difference.

Look the setup is a little unusual but it'll definitely get the job done and be a great wakeboat for someone, hell its a Mastercraft.