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GT500 MC
11-02-2011, 03:07 PM
So I'm having to get rid of the company car and purchase my own. Am looking at either SUV (Tahoe or Durango) or 4-door truck (possibly Avalanche, Tundra, F150, Ram) 2007 or newer. Primary purpose is commuting for work so would like 18-20 mpg highway but this vehicle would also serve as backup tow vehicle (wife currently has '07 Durango w/Hemi which tows MC great) so I want to get towing capability of 7,000lbs+. Haul x14v so with gear about 5,500 lbs.

Would like anybody's feedback on the above-listed SUV's or trucks. Initial thoughts:
1. Ford F150 EcoBoost - only a 3.5L V6 but torque at over 400ft/lbs and rated at 8,000+ for towing--interesting.
2. Avalanche - great-looking truck and flexible for uses.
3. SUV's would be great as I have 3 kids but not necessary. Anyone hauling with the new Durango's?

Thx in advance for the feedback. I know it's all personal opinion but I haven't owned a truck in over 20 years and figured I would get candid feedback from this crew.

willyt
11-02-2011, 03:15 PM
Gt,
I have a 2007 Tahoe LTZ and love it. Pulls the 05 x2 just fine, plus it's really comfortable as a daily driver.

I haven't been in a ecoboost f150 yet but I would definitely go test drive one... Only issue is I think they just came out in 2011.

However, I would recommend a Serria Denali 2500 duamax. Why? Cause your wife can't have a bigger truck than you :-p

GT500 MC
11-02-2011, 03:27 PM
The 2500 Duramax would definitely work--the price may be a bit out of my range. And the point regarding my wife is understood, for sure.

Thrall
11-02-2011, 05:29 PM
18mpg highway will be at the upper end or just out of reach with any of the vehicles you've mentioned, including the diesels if you go post 07 emissions (without deleting the dpf anyway).
That said, the new '11 F150 5.0 V8 in my 2wd company truck gets 18-20 on the highway and 16+ in mixed/city/jobsite. It pulls very well for a small, small block. As good or better than any of the 1/2ton gassers out there right now. If the Eco boost is better than this engine in power and mpg then that's the best combo, IMO. And I'm not even a Ford guy. Never cared for them until I got this 2011 model.
Sounds like you don't NEED a diesel (who does?), but they are sweet. Find you a pre-emissions 06-07 DMax or Dodge Cummins if you want to stay within the 30k budget range.
Figure in maint costs though. While I believe diesel pickups are overall less costly to maintain than gassers, this includes me doing my own maint. Seems on the diesel pickups they don't jsut charge you for the extra gal or 2 of oil, they charge you out the kazoo to actually pour it into your engine. Then you get hammered like $60-100 to change a $10 fuel filter in like 5 min.

Double D
11-02-2011, 05:38 PM
I have the 07 Avalanche and I love it. I have no brakes on my trailer and I have no problems. A very versatile and sexy vehicle (truck/SUV). You wont get 18 to 20 mph out of it and the high end rating is 17 mph. I don't check it but the computer says between 14 and 15 mph average with 66,000 miles of driving I have done.

Good Luck!


So I'm having to get rid of the company car and purchase my own. Am looking at either SUV (Tahoe or Durango) or 4-door truck (possibly Avalanche, Tundra, F150, Ram) 2007 or newer. Primary purpose is commuting for work so would like 18-20 mpg highway but this vehicle would also serve as backup tow vehicle (wife currently has '07 Durango w/Hemi which tows MC great) so I want to get towing capability of 7,000lbs+. Haul x14v so with gear about 5,500 lbs.

Would like anybody's feedback on the above-listed SUV's or trucks. Initial thoughts:
1. Ford F150 EcoBoost - only a 3.5L V6 but torque at over 400ft/lbs and rated at 8,000+ for towing--interesting.
2. Avalanche - great-looking truck and flexible for uses.
3. SUV's would be great as I have 3 kids but not necessary. Anyone hauling with the new Durango's?

Thx in advance for the feedback. I know it's all personal opinion but I haven't owned a truck in over 20 years and figured I would get candid feedback from this crew.

gts-20
11-02-2011, 05:47 PM
I have a '11 Tundra Crewmax 4x4 w/ the 5.7. It tows great and is the most reliable truck I have ever owned, but it can not pass a gas station without stopping. I get about 13 mpg in town and 17 mpg on the highway.

Nick911
11-02-2011, 07:39 PM
Have a 2007 Yukon Denali. Love it, tows great, and looks good. Has the 6.2L aluminum block V8 with 390HP.
Best part is the tranny temp gauge and the self-leveling rear airbags with built-in compressor (standard on the Denalis). Always keeps the rear level. As soon as I drop weight on the hitch I hear the compressor kick in. Also has full time AWD. Rated to tow 8500 lbs (I think).

That Denali towing my new X25 rolling down the highway will be the symbol of capitalist opulence! Occupy this!!!

Lars
11-02-2011, 07:59 PM
Do you tow so much in critical situations that you need a backup tow vehicle? Get a sedan and enjoy 30+ MPG :D

GT500 MC
11-02-2011, 09:11 PM
Have a 2007 Yukon Denali. Love it, tows great, and looks good. Has the 6.2L aluminum block V8 with 390HP.
Best part is the tranny temp gauge and the self-leveling rear airbags with built-in compressor (standard on the Denalis). Always keeps the rear level. As soon as I drop weight on the hitch I hear the compressor kick in. Also has full time AWD. Rated to tow 8500 lbs (I think).

That Denali towing my new X25 rolling down the highway will be the symbol of capitalist opulence! Occupy this!!!

That's funny. And yes, if I could find a low-mileage Denali, that would be an option as well.

GT500 MC
11-02-2011, 09:18 PM
Do you tow so much in critical situations that you need a backup tow vehicle? Get a sedan and enjoy 30+ MPG :D

Getting a sedan has crossed my mind. And if I was smart, would probably be the way to go. However, we keep the MC at my father-in-laws storage building and to coordinate with my wife every Friday to meet me there so we can swap vehicles to tow the boat home for the weekend's activities doesn't always work. I wouldn't say it's "critical" situations, but it does become a bit of a PITA. Besides, the functionality of a truck is hard to beat, despite the lower MPG. I still have a couple of months but trying to figure this out sooner rather than later.

Thx to everyone for their feedback so far.

Kyle
11-03-2011, 02:57 AM
I have hauled my 190 with

2002 chevy avalanche- squatted to stops and did not have air ride and was coil spring rear ended and under powered.

2008 chevy Tahoe LTZ- air ride pretty much ran the entire time but had much more power than the truck above

2009 chevy avalanche LTZ. Same issues as the hoe

My current tow rig is an 2009 king ranch f150 and it sends the Chevys down to china town. Would not trade my KR for anything accept a 3/4 ton that I chose not to afford. I do have the 5.4 but have a buddy with the Eco boost and he loves it.

Chevys pull ~7500#

Ford f150 pull ~11300#

Do yourself a favor and get the ford. This is my first ford and I have owned many many many Chevys and I seriously can't see myself going back.

First time I hauled my boat I felt like I was going 60 and looked down to see 87. Pulls like a champ.

Footin
11-03-2011, 06:46 PM
I have two trailblazers, a 03 and my wifes 05. Both tow my 205 well and they get about 18 mpg not towing.

Thrall
11-03-2011, 09:27 PM
You already have an SUV, so get a pick-up..............or get your wife a car!:rolleyes:

Nick911
11-03-2011, 10:02 PM
My air ride only runs when it first takes the weight then that is it.

phillywakeboarder
11-04-2011, 12:09 AM
You may want to consider a trailblazer ss. I have a 2006 and absolutely love it. 400 hp. Big wheels. Big brakes. Tows like a dream. And, since they're not making them anymore, they'll look good on the road for years to come. Only drawback is gas mileage - I probably average about 16 mpg. But, they are fun miles. Really fun.

BrianM
11-04-2011, 09:21 AM
I have a 2007 Avalanche and use it like you would. Super versatile as an SUV with a huge 'trunk' or as a truck. Rides like a dream on the interstate and tows well. I have a 2wd LTZ with the Autoride suspension which load levels great and only runs when you first start the truck. As said above though you won't get 20mpg with it on the freeway. Window sticker said 15 city and 20 hwy but it doesn't get that. It will get 20 mpg on flat rural hwy doing 55 mph. On the interstate at 75-80 it gets about 17. Around town 14 and towing anything 12.5. I average 15.5-16 driving about 70 percent hwy and 30 percent city.

mastercraft-4-life
11-05-2011, 06:09 AM
I have an 05 Durango limited . I get 20-24 on the freeway at 65 and 15 ish in town. Thats what the truck says. Ive checked it it was really close. 5.7 hemi. awd. I only pull my 1985 s&s. Tons of room.

GT500 MC
11-05-2011, 08:10 PM
I have an 05 Durango limited . I get 20-24 on the freeway at 65 and 15 ish in town. Thats what the truck says. Ive checked it it was really close. 5.7 hemi. awd. I only pull my 1985 s&s. Tons of room.

Our Durango must be geared much higher than yours. We can't get above 17-18 on the freeway. Good tow vehicle.

-V-
11-07-2011, 10:04 AM
I have a '11 Tundra Crewmax 4x4 w/ the 5.7. It tows great and is the most reliable truck I have ever owned, but it can not pass a gas station without stopping. I get about 13 mpg in town and 17 mpg on the highway.

holy cow, i have a t-force edition of that truck, which is pretty much your truck minus the 4x4, add in a couple of fancy features and other stuff. I average about 18. When i drove it from San Antonio to Cleveland with my boat and all my stuff, i tpped the scales at 14K LBS and still managed to get here on about $400.

shepherd
11-07-2011, 10:33 AM
I have a 2007 Avalanche and use it like you would. Super versatile as an SUV with a huge 'trunk' or as a truck. Rides like a dream on the interstate and tows well. I have a 2wd LTZ with the Autoride suspension which load levels great and only runs when you first start the truck. As said above though you won't get 20mpg with it on the freeway. Window sticker said 15 city and 20 hwy but it doesn't get that. It will get 20 mpg on flat rural hwy doing 55 mph. On the interstate at 75-80 it gets about 17. Around town 14 and towing anything 12.5. I average 15.5-16 driving about 70 percent hwy and 30 percent city.

I also have a 2007 2wd LTZ Avalanche. Nice truck but the gas mileage is pretty bad -- I do have a heavy right foot, though I'm getting the same numbers as Brian. My only complaint is that the bed is pretty small unless I open the back wall to extend it into the cab. But you don't want to do that if carrying some dirty stuff that can blow around in the cab. Also, I can't move the driver's seat back to my usual driving position in that configuration.

The Avalanche is a good compromise between an SUV and a pickup truck. But like most compromises, it doesn't excel at either. My next truck will probably be an extended or crew cab pickup with a full size bed.

GT500 MC
11-08-2011, 09:55 PM
I think I've narrowed it down to the F-150 FX4. Really leaning toward the 3.5L V6 (twin turbo) but have heard the 5.0L V8 is really strong too. And been much easier to find than the V6. Anyone out there with either?
Kyle - you said yours is an '09 with a 5.4L?

BrianM
11-09-2011, 09:34 AM
Tons of the Ecoboost trucks on the lots around here. If I was in the market for a new truck I would be giving it serious consideration.

-V-
11-09-2011, 11:13 AM
go with the tundra crewmaxx, you will not need anything bigger, lots of room on the inside. You can blow up a full size mattress in the back seat, the back seats also recline. :)

jdeml
11-09-2011, 12:06 PM
I love my 07 Avalanche. 4x4 with 305/50/20 rims and tires. Ill post a pic below. Pulls the Xstar nice and use it for work and play. currently 150K miles and no problems except for changing brake pads. (knock on wood).

72774

Thrall
11-09-2011, 12:48 PM
I think I've narrowed it down to the F-150 FX4. Really leaning toward the 3.5L V6 (twin turbo) but have heard the 5.0L V8 is really strong too. And been much easier to find than the V6. Anyone out there with either?
Kyle - you said yours is an '09 with a 5.4L?

Have a '11 F150 work truck with the 5.0 and it is great mated with the 6speed auto. Don't have many miles on it yet, so cant comment on longevity of the drivetrain, but so far in the 8k mi I've had it, it's the most powerful 1/2 ton combo I've been in (save for 6.2 L Chevies and other hotrod options). IMO, it out pulls the newer 5.7Hemis and Tundras. Highway mileage, 2wd truck is 20mpg+ at 65-70mph. Just got 15mpg pulling an empty 20' 14kgvw trailer home last night, 3500lbs? maybe. Mixed commuting/jobsite driving is 16+mpg.
They tow very well. Had about 8klb trailer + a very loaded bed and the truck ran out easily. Could have hit 70-80mph on the on ramps if I floored it. IMO it will pull any MC short of an X80 with ease.
Trans does exactly what you'd want it to wrt holding a gear and not downshifting excessively. Knows when to downshift to hold back speed on downhills. Operates very similar to the Allison 1000 or the newer Dodge 68rfe's which is good.
This is all at sea level, so everything's relative, but I've never cared much for Ford's Triton engines and I've had alot of them, but the new 5.0 is the shizz.
Not sure what the upcharge is for the ecoboost, but the 5.0 rips!
My only real complaint and this is typical with all the Ferd 150's I've had is the rear springs are too soft. If you have any real weight in the bed consistently, even 3-400lbs or tow or load the truck down, overloads are a must. IMO the springs are more like a 1/4 ton. I put Timbrens on my new truck after having helper springs on previous ones and they work great and much easier install.

GT500 MC
11-18-2011, 12:06 PM
Thx for the feedback Thrall. Ended up getting the '11 F150 FX4 with the EcoBoost engine. Was not that easy to find. A lot of 5.0's still on the lot but not the V6. Heard they may start really dealing on the V8's in the next few weeks.

Have a couple of hundred miles on it and I'm amazed at this truck. Twin-turbos show little to no lag and the truck just pulls. Rides great and so far averaging 19+ mpg, which I can live with. Thx again to everyone's input.