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captain planet
10-26-2011, 12:27 PM
If you thought the “Transportation Security Administration” would limit itself to conducting unconstitutional searches at airports, think again. The agency intends to assert jurisdiction over our nation’s highways, waterways, and railroads as well. TSA launched a new campaign of random checkpoints on Tennessee highways last week, complete with a sinister military-style acronym--VIP(E)R – as a name for the program.


As with TSA’s random searches at airports, these roadside searches are not based on any actual suspicion of criminal activity or any factual evidence of wrongdoing whatsoever by those detained. They are, in effect, completely random. So first we are told by the U.S. Supreme Court that American citizens have no 4thamendment protections at border crossings, even when standing on U.S. soil. Now TSA takes the next logical step and simply detains and searches U.S. citizens at wholly internal checkpoints.

The slippery slope is here. When does it end? How many more infringements on our liberties, our property, and our basic human rights to travel freely will it take before people become fed up enough to demand respect from their government? When will we demand that the government heed obvious constitutional limitations, and stop treating ordinary Americans as criminal suspects in the absence of probable cause?

The real tragedy occurs when Americans incrementally become accustomed to this treatment on the roads just as they have become accustomed to it in the airports. We already accept arriving at the airport 2 or more hours before a flight to get through security; will we soon have to build in an extra 2 or 3 hours into our road trips to allow for checkpoint traffic?

Worse, some people are lulled into a false sense of security and are actually grateful for this added police presence! Should we really hail the expansion of the police state as an enhancement to safety? I submit that an attitude of acquiescence to TSA authority is thoroughly dangerous, un-American, and insulting to earlier freedom-loving generations who built this country.

I am certain people will complain about this, once they have to sit in stopped traffic for a few extra hours to allow for random searches of cars. However, I am also certain it merely will take another "foiled" plot to silence many people into gladly accepting more government mismanagement of safety.

Vigilant, observant, law-abiding, gun-owning citizens defend themselves and stop crimes every day before police can respond. That is the source of real security in America: the 2nd Amendment right to defend oneself. The answer is for people to be empowered to protect themselves. Yet how many weapons might these checkpoints confiscate? Even when individual go through all the legal hoops of licensing and permits, the chances of harassment or outright confiscation of weapons and detention of citizens when those weapons are found at a TSA checkpoint is extremely high.

Disarming the highways and filling them full of jack-booted thugs demanding to see our papers is no way to make them safer. Instead, it is a great way to expand government surveillance powers and tighten the noose around our liberties.

-V-
10-26-2011, 12:46 PM
that sucks, what country can i go to that i can live better in? haha, joking, but really when does it end?

2RLAKE
10-26-2011, 01:03 PM
you said the key word .... acquiescence ... which is exactly what they want ... one small liberty at a time and most people will never question it

I guess i'll have to take the earlier exit off I75 headng to the lake and sneak in the back way

captain planet
10-26-2011, 01:18 PM
you said the key word .... acquiescence ... which is exactly what they want ... one small liberty at a time and most people will never question it

I guess i'll have to take the earlier exit off I75 headng to the lake and sneak in the back way

Not actually my words, I cut and pasted the article, but where does this stop? I would think they would end up having to cart me away because I really don't think I would be able to keep my mouth shut. I dodged a bullet in Tampa in March coming back from vacation. I was lucky enough to get in a line at the airport that didn't have a scanner because I won't go through one of those things.

Anyone ever seen the movie "V for Vendetta"?

shepherd
10-26-2011, 01:25 PM
The slippery slope started long ago when they decided it was alright to have checkpoints on the roads to try to catch drunk drivers. I blame MADD and all people who think safety and security should take precedence over our individual freedom and constitutional rights.

Safety is overrated.

2whlin
10-26-2011, 02:25 PM
You Need To Fight This! Spread The Word, Right Your Representative And Let Them Know This Is Not Acceptable!!

shepherd
10-26-2011, 05:02 PM
You Need To Fight This! Spread The Word, Right Your Representative And Let Them Know This Is Not Acceptable!!

Why?
Did he fall down?

:D (sorry... couldn't help it ;))

captain planet
10-27-2011, 10:56 AM
Why?
Did he fall down?

:D (sorry... couldn't help it ;))

I was going to do something similar. Thanks for picking up my slack. ;)

So.....this is it? I can't believe there isn't more outrage about this! I guess most of you have turned into one of these.......

chawk610
10-27-2011, 11:25 AM
this is infuriating! At some point we are gonna have to say NO!

chawk610
10-27-2011, 11:35 AM
Just imagine if you could go back 40 years and bring someone back to the present. They would think we are living in a communist police state.

gweaver
10-27-2011, 01:28 PM
You want change, vote 'em out of office. But understand that it's the Senate and Congress that write most of the policies and laws we're dealing with- the president just signs the final draft. Change has to begin with the folks who come up with these ideas. Same holds true at the state level. Change the representatives to folks who are more...grounded. Of course, you're fighting an uphill battle, as the TSA isn't going to go down without a fight. Lots of funding tied up in that agency. They won't let go easy.
The government formed the TSA to protect us from terrorists, but based on the OP, the terrorists have won- we're losing freedoms right and left. And I have never felt like I was in danger of a terrorist attack.
G

chawk610
10-27-2011, 01:57 PM
Definately all by design... "PLEASE PROTECT ME FROM MUSLIMS, at whatever cost you see fit!" Opens the door for ALL types of conspiracy theories!!!!!

curtish
10-30-2011, 09:44 PM
I agree 100% with the OP. Wow, this is total BS! I didn't think they'd ever get away with this in a place like Tennessee. I will never become one of the sheeple. As I get older, I am convinced that LESS government is the answer.

mikeg205
10-30-2011, 10:52 PM
captain P...watched V for Vendetta today....everyday i watch and see your avatar...I fear more and more for govt's reach into our every day life... chawk....we are damn close.... every election we give away a little more...,aybe we'll get lucky and some supernatural force will make the faces on mount rushmore weep.

captain planet
10-31-2011, 11:21 AM
captain P...watched V for Vendetta today....everyday i watch and see your avatar...I fear more and more for govt's reach into our every day life... chawk....we are damn close.... every election we give away a little more...,aybe we'll get lucky and some supernatural force will make the faces on mount rushmore weep.

Each Halloween I come closer and closer to buying the V costume, but being a guy in my late 30's I can't bring myself to get a costume for Halloween. As Lewis Black once said, "If your an adult and are planning on dressing up for Halloween this year.....................DON'T!"

So I'm fighting with the symbolic nature of the V costume vs. maturity. :confused:

mikeg205
10-31-2011, 03:20 PM
at age 52... I can tell you...that that won't wreck your reputation... and you might regret not doing it when you are 52...when that costume will be meaningless...do it for evie... :)

captain planet
10-31-2011, 06:03 PM
at age 52... I can tell you...that that won't wreck your reputation... and you might regret not doing it when you are 52...when that costume will be meaningless...do it for evie... :)

Uh.....I would do just about anything for Evie. ;)