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CantRepeat
10-21-2011, 10:09 AM
The world has put all of you on notice! :D

Would we do the same for say, North Korea?

1redTA
10-21-2011, 11:45 AM
we should clean our own house first :-)

thatsmrmastercraft
10-21-2011, 11:51 AM
we should clean our own house first :-)

Well said.:rolleyes:

CantRepeat
10-21-2011, 11:56 AM
Well said.:rolleyes:

Well, I think we have it better then the Libyans or the North Koreans. ;) And personally, I rather not see the US involved in civil wars.

thatsmrmastercraft
10-21-2011, 12:00 PM
Well, I think we have it better then the Libyans or the North Koreans. ;) And personally, I rather not see the US involved in civil wars.

No argument that we have it good here - especially when compared to other countries (some more than others). The reason I liked the idea of cleaning our own house first is that it would never be completely done, so we wouldn't be the world's police force. We have plenty to do here.

Hence the :rolleyes: in my previous post.

captain planet
10-21-2011, 12:01 PM
we should clean our own house first :-)

That would be an undertaking, 'cleaning out' 333 of our "leaders".

thatsmrmastercraft
10-21-2011, 12:40 PM
That would be an undertaking, 'cleaning out' 333 of our "leaders".

I would vote for it.

shepherd
10-21-2011, 01:22 PM
I would vote for it.

I did. But many are still there. :mad:

CantRepeat
10-21-2011, 02:40 PM
I guess we know who's next. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44987236/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/?GT1=43001)

chawk610
10-21-2011, 05:56 PM
Taking down the heads in bad places... next step to an all in one world gov't.

captain planet
10-21-2011, 06:14 PM
Taking down the heads in bad places... next step to an all in one world gov't.

Very astute observation. ;)

CantRepeat
10-21-2011, 06:25 PM
Very astute observation. ;)

Yeah, that's what's taking place here. :rolleyes:

M-Funf
10-21-2011, 07:00 PM
we should clean our own house first :-)

And what about the Senate?

GoneBoatN
10-21-2011, 07:40 PM
Although we are better than so many other countries, we are worse off than we were 10-20 years ago. There is something terribly wrong with that.

We are far more a "socialist" country now days. More assistance, less jobs. More illegal immigrants, and a lot are not the good kind; little being done about that problem that has achieved any results. Very few politicians willing to take a stance for what is good for the country/people but rather what is good for the party they belong too for the PACs they are influenced by.

Obviously, continuing to just dump the burden on the middle class is not working.

Jorski
10-21-2011, 10:25 PM
Although we are better than so many other countries, we are worse off than we were 10-20 years ago.

By what measure? GDP? Health? Lifespan? Per capita Income? Productivity? Education level?

Particularly over 20 years..I'd be curious.

JimN
10-21-2011, 10:48 PM
The world has put all of you on notice! :D

Would we do the same for say, North Korea?

You tell me- used to be, the US didn't go around killing off the leaders of other countries. Keeps them from trying to do the same to us.

I guess this guy is different. He might as well be- he got the Nobel Peace Prize for what they HOPED he would do. Oddly, he thinks he did this and killed Bin Laden. If he really is responsible, he got the Peace Prize because they hoped he would kill people. Really?

CantRepeat
10-22-2011, 12:05 AM
You tell me- used to be, the US didn't go around killing off the leaders of other countries. Keeps them from trying to do the same to us.

I guess this guy is different. He might as well be- he got the Nobel Peace Prize for what they HOPED he would do. Oddly, he thinks he did this and killed Bin Laden. If he really is responsible, he got the Peace Prize because they hoped he would kill people. Really?

***? Have a little to much to drink tonight Jim?

I don't have a clue what you are trying to say.

GoneBoatN
10-22-2011, 12:07 AM
By what measure? GDP? Health? Lifespan? Per capita Income? Productivity? Education level?

Particularly over 20 years..I'd be curious.

As someone else on this forum recently said "just because it is on the internet, it does not make it true", I found http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,2056723-1,00.html interesting and its easier to reference than regurgitate. It references some statistics from Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development.

GoneBoatN
10-22-2011, 12:09 AM
Sorry, I seemed to have hi-jacked this thread in a different direction. My apologies. I will cease and desist.

joniron1
10-24-2011, 05:07 PM
Interesting article non the less.

eurosysytem0
10-25-2011, 08:59 AM
I see the UN are setting up an enquiry to determine if Gadaffis killing was ex-judicial.
Gadaffi was at least armed when captured. This UN contribution is (I dont think) just what the new Libya needs as it tries to stabalise into a democracy.

Remind me, did the UN set up a similar enquiry to investigate the killing of Bin Laden.

The double standards and hypocracy of the UN really p****s me off. As an aside I believe both Gadaffi and Bin Laden got what they deserved

CantRepeat
10-25-2011, 09:03 AM
In my eye he's been an open target since Lockerbie.

GoneBoatN
10-25-2011, 12:26 PM
In my eye he's been an open target since Lockerbie.

You're not alone. I think there is a great many that support action against this kind of person in particular when they are in a position of influence such as Gaddafi.

Interesting reading at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muammar_Gaddafi#Assassination_attempts_and_plots and includes assassination attempts.

JimN
10-25-2011, 01:15 PM
***? Have a little to much to drink tonight Jim?

I don't have a clue what you are trying to say.

I don't drink.

You posted "The world has put all of you on notice!" and, if you were referring to the leaders of countries like Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Syria and the Palestinians, I was referring to the fact that we went out and captured/killed the leaders of two countries and justify it as if we're in Texas (the "He needed killin'" defense) -no offense to Texans. Obama is taking credit for both OBL and Ghaddafi's killings and, while he may have given the official go-ahead, he couldn't have done much more than that. Doing this puts the POTUS in the crosshairs of the wack-jobs of the world and I sincerely think he doesn't realize this. While Ghaddafi needed to go, it wasn't our call how, or when. We slapped his hands and bought his oil, when he felt like selling it but we really didn't do much more until the "Arab Spring" began and we jumped on the pile of countries who decided that this was as good a time as any for him to go away. The problem is that there was no plan for who would replace him and now the new government has declared that Sharia Law will be the basis for how they operate, I think it may get ugly. Two fundamental Islamic states in that region will be a problem. OTOH, Iraq still hasn't fully formed their government, so it's not decided how far to one side or the other their leadership will go when all is said and done.

If you meant that we, at TMC, were put on notice, my response would be, "Oh yeah?".