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bfinley
08-03-2005, 10:50 AM
I'm ordering a new boad buddy from Cabela's because mine is in rough shape and doesn't work very well.

Do I need the Boat Buddy I, or Boat Buddy II?? In other words, is my Bow Eye 1/2", or 3/8"??

Here's the link:
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jsp?id=0001975011046a&type=product&cmCat=search&returnString=hasJS=true&_D%3AhasJS=+&QueryText=boat+buddy&_DARGS=%2Fcabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jsp.22&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=mode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=boat+buddy&noImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jsp

By the way, I have a 1992 ProSport 205

Thanks

Footin
08-03-2005, 10:58 AM
I have a 94 Prostar 205 and my trialer has the BB2

BriEOD
08-03-2005, 11:00 AM
3/8" is what you need.

bfinley
08-03-2005, 11:04 AM
Those are two different answers. The BB1 = 3/8", the BB2 = 1/2".

Anyone else have a suggestion?

jclose8
08-03-2005, 11:14 AM
Sorry, Brieod, but 3/8 is the wrong answer. You need a 1/2". Boat Buddy II.
And when you get it, soak the rubber down with armor all. It will help the boat slide on easier and also will greatly reduce any marks on your gelcoat.

BriEOD
08-03-2005, 11:25 AM
Well, I know FOR SURE that I have the 3/8" on mine. However, I added mine after removing the infamous bar. So, it may come from the factory 1/2". But, I recall reading somewhere when I was adding it that the 3/8" was the correct size for my length and weight of boat. The 1/2" was for much larger boats. Again, I do not know what comes standard on your trailer. So, please get another opinion.

east tx skier
08-03-2005, 11:31 AM
Brian, I remember reading on here a while back that 3/8" was the replacement size, too. But since I haven't replaced mine, I've got no real opinion on the subject. Just validating your memory, not really adding useful content here.

Upper Michigan Prostar190
08-03-2005, 11:35 AM
I measured mine and it has a 1/2 bow eye, so it must be the BB2. :twocents:

jclose8
08-03-2005, 02:27 PM
I probably could have worded my post better.... Sorry, Brieod. I have a 1/2". If I were to give advice, I'd say get the 1/2". Either one may work, but the 1/2" one is beefier and will probably be more durable and last longer. Those things do take some abuse.

east tx skier
08-03-2005, 02:34 PM
Jeez, first the guy takes your avatar, Brian, and now he belittles your bow eye. You gonna take that?!? ;)

8p 8p 8p

jclose8
08-03-2005, 03:40 PM
I don't know..... I've had this avatar for quite a while.... I don't have a lot of posts, but I've been registered for quite a while.

east tx skier
08-03-2005, 03:43 PM
And now he accuses you of stealing his avatar, Brian!!!

/hope you know I'm just stirring up something that doesn't exist jclose8. Just having some fun. :)

peason
08-03-2005, 04:03 PM
Jeez, first the guy takes your avatar, Brian, and now he belittles your bow eye. You gonna take that?!? ;)

8p 8p 8p

Just catching up - LMAO at this comment.

BriEOD
08-03-2005, 04:07 PM
Actually, I think he had it first, but as he said he's not frequent enough that I remembered it. I borrowed it off somone from endoftheropegang (a plug for Cary).

No worries JClose I didn't take it like that. I just want to make sure Brandon gets the correct info.

PeteS
08-04-2005, 02:37 PM
I have an '88 PS 190, and put the Boat Buddy I on mine ealier this summer and it works great. Not sure the size of the bow eye, but like I said, it works great on mine. Don't know if this helps or not.

89PROSTAR
08-04-2005, 02:50 PM
I'm wanting to replace my bar also. Does any one have any pictures of a retro-fit trailer. I'm afraid my wife wants to run me over while I"m trying to hook up the bar.

BriEOD
08-04-2005, 04:57 PM
Yeah no worries. Used an angle iron to take the "bar" off. Than a local trailer shop used 1"x1" tubular stock to build the stanchion with forks. Here's a before and after shot.

BriEOD
08-04-2005, 04:58 PM
After.....

89PROSTAR
08-05-2005, 09:24 AM
hey, not bad. I was thinking of something sim. I'm trying to determine how much longer we are keeping the boat. The time and effort might not be worth it. Thanks for the pics.

BriEOD
08-05-2005, 09:43 AM
You're probably looking at about around $200.

SteveO
08-05-2005, 09:43 AM
Bfin,

That is a fair price on Cabellas, The company is based out of Fort Worth and I stopped by to pick up a new rubber cover last Friday. They were asking almost as much as Cabellas. My boat buddy still worked great, but somehow I pinched the rubber and split it when loading. They claimed the difference between the 1 and 2 is weight capacity. The 2 is 5000 pounds

Snyd28
08-06-2005, 07:29 PM
I just replaced the Boat Buddy on mine last month. Mine had the BB2 on there so I replaced it with the same. I have a 96 ProStar190. My only mistake - buying it from a dealership! Man was that expensive!

Holtrodj
08-07-2005, 05:58 PM
Can you get boat buddy replacement parts? Mine has a rip in the rubber top and I'd like to replace the top w.o. replacing the whole thing.

east tx skier
08-07-2005, 08:34 PM
I don't think so. I think for $50 it's just easier to replace them. ICBW (but don't think I am).

Kevin 89MC
08-10-2005, 02:30 PM
I installed the Boat Buddy 2 on my '89 PS, and the packaging did say "fits most boats 21' and over." My guess is the BB 1 might be enough, but the BB 2 is heaver-duty, never a bad thing. I tried to include a pic of mine, but "the file is too large". Don't really know how to easily change the sizes. If anyone wants to see my pics, send a PM. My '89 had that stupid bar thing too, and I was sure someone was going to lose a finger. The Boat Buddy is great!
Kevin

MarkP
08-10-2005, 06:08 PM
Nice work KEVIN

MarkP
08-10-2005, 06:09 PM
And this one

MarkP
08-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Hey this one too

89PROSTAR
08-11-2005, 09:13 AM
looks great! It looks like a worthy investment. Did you have to add a new bow eye? That thing looks huge.

Kevin 89MC
08-11-2005, 10:36 AM
looks great! It looks like a worthy investment. Did you have to add a new bow eye? That thing looks huge.

Yes, it comes with a new bow eye. Relatively easy to replace, but you obviously need access to the nuts behind it. Sorta easy on the closed bow boats, not sure if you can get to it in an open bow though.
Kevin

Kevin 89MC
08-11-2005, 10:41 AM
Oh yeah, one more thing about that big bow eye. It can catch on the trailer when unloading if not done right. You can see the evidence on the 2nd picture that Mark so kindly posted for me. I have to leave the trailer out of the water a bit and power off, rather than be deep enough to float off, otherwise as the back end floats, the bow eye gets too close to the trailer and wham! it hits that vee bracket and rips the carpet. It is still worth it for me though.
Kevin

east tx skier
10-06-2006, 11:57 AM
Since this is bound to come up again, I figured I'd revive this thread and one other. After all my biatching about how I hate the scuffs from boat buddy, I just ordered a replacement shroud for my boat buddy (figured I'd give it one more chance and carpet it). Mastercraft of Charlotte has the shroud only listed for around $26 plus shipping.

The only part they have listed is for boat buddy II (91--2005).

I'm sure either BB would work, but apparently BBII was the original part.

pilot02
10-06-2006, 12:38 PM
I've used both but I added the BB to my trailer Started off with a 3/8 and after 2 seasons it was bent all to heck. The BBII has held up fine though I'll have to replace it sometime as well due to wear (it gets used a lot!)
The BBII (1/2") is what comes stock on the trailers.

schwartz36
10-12-2007, 03:19 PM
1998 Powerstar comes with the 1/2" BB2.

johkur
03-13-2008, 09:58 PM
So when is the Boat Buddy included or not included with a new Mastercraft? I thought it was standard, and would expect a 4950 pound X-45 to have the 5000 pound max Boat Buddy, with maybe a reminder to not rely on it solely for trailering, but it appears it might not be included with the trailer, but has to be purchased and added separately?

flipper
03-13-2008, 10:06 PM
I've used both but I added the BB to my trailer Started off with a 3/8 and after 2 seasons it was bent all to heck. The BBII has held up fine though I'll have to replace it sometime as well due to wear (it gets used a lot!)
The BBII (1/2") is what comes stock on the trailers.

Same thing here.... I have a 3/8 on mine right now, it's coming off in a few weeks, and going back with the 1/2 for sure.

richies
03-26-2008, 03:55 PM
Im really pleased this thread was resurrected. Im planning to replace the bar on our 84 S&S with a boat buddy. I'll construct a mount for the boat buddy as per the shots in this thread or east texas's FAQ design.

The S&S is relatively small and the 3/8 might do, but from what I read here I might as well go big and strong straight off i.e. the 1/2" Boat Buddy II. It seems that while the thickness of the bow eyes is different, the distance between the arms of them is the same i.e. to put a 1/2" in place of a 3/8" is simply a question of drilling out the existing hole - I dont need a different hole at all (I dont want to drill a new one).

Can someone confirm this?

Cheers

R

pilot02
03-26-2008, 04:03 PM
So when is the Boat Buddy included or not included with a new Mastercraft? I thought it was standard, and would expect a 4950 pound X-45 to have the 5000 pound max Boat Buddy, with maybe a reminder to not rely on it solely for trailering, but it appears it might not be included with the trailer, but has to be purchased and added separately?

The boat buddy was not included with older boats. All of the newer trailers 91 and above for sure, not sure about 90. My 89 did not come with it though.

TMCNo1
03-26-2008, 04:16 PM
Im really pleased this thread was resurrected. Im planning to replace the bar on our 84 S&S with a boat buddy. I'll construct a mount for the boat buddy as per the shots in this thread or east texas's FAQ design.

The S&S is relatively small and the 3/8 might do, but from what I read here I might as well go big and strong straight off i.e. the 1/2" Boat Buddy II. It seems that while the thickness of the bow eyes is different, the distance between the arms of them is the same i.e. to put a 1/2" in place of a 3/8" is simply a question of drilling out the existing hole - I dont need a different hole at all (I dont want to drill a new one).

Can someone confirm this?

Cheers

R


IIRC, the pin size is different inside the Boat Buddy, but the boweye diameter is the same.
If you buy the whole Boat Buddy conversion like I did, a new LONG boweye comes with it in the kit and you DO NOT have to drill a new or enlarge a/or the holes! I just removed the old one, installed the new LONG one while sealing it with silicone like the factory one and that was 11 years ago and I have never had to replace a single piece due to abuse or wear!

TMCNo1
03-26-2008, 04:17 PM
The boat buddy was not included with older boats. All of the newer trailers 91 and above for sure, not sure about 90. My 89 did not come with it though.

It was std. equipment on the 1990 trailer/boats.

spanielman50
03-26-2008, 08:33 PM
do you have to replace the bow eye ?

TMCNo1
03-26-2008, 09:11 PM
do you have to replace the bow eye ?

Yes, the boweye will have to be replaced because the one needed for the Boat Buddy is longer in order to trip the pin mechanism inside the BB and to allow the pin to go through boweye. The boweye diameter is the same as the short factory one and IIRC it is 1/2" diameter.

Boweye will be long like this,
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