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SWeaver
08-08-2011, 08:53 AM
off to see the doctor. very slowly.........

Wakeboarding crash yesterday evening. It didn't hurt much at all before bed, just a little discomfort. Then, woke up to acute pain that made breathing difficult and walking almost impossible. It hurts so much, it is almost funny....funny as in "you can't be serious", not "funny like a clown".

Never been to a chiropractor. Is there anything I should ask, or be wary of? He is a Dr, not just a therapist. Thanks for any advice :(

airdrew99
08-08-2011, 09:13 AM
I've had a similar experience with my mid to lower back. I hurt mine lifting a bucket of sand about 5 years ago. I've had problems ever since. Definitely do any physical therapy the doctors recommend. My was a pulled muscle in my back. The doctors believe that I continue to have problems with my back because that particular muscle is weak (they say it is because I'm skinny). They give me Flexeril 10mg (muscle relaxer) and a Medrol dose pack (a steroid pack). I wish you the best and hope you feel better shortly.

Drew

_fng_
08-08-2011, 09:14 AM
He is a Dr, not just a therapist. Thanks for any advice :(

That first line made me laugh. I'm a PT with a doctorate from an established school (how many Chiro schools have you ever heard of?) /rant.

Acute low back pain without any leg symptoms (or at least not past the knee) does very well with manipulation (yes therapists do manipulations and if not they're providing piss poor care) and active mobility i.e. walking, single knee to chest while lying on heat, etc. Most acute low back pain will resolve within a 1-2 weeks on its own but there is research that indicates early PT (mobilization/manipulation plus specific exercises) can reduce recurrence rate and subsequent utilization of analgesics and/or surgery more so than other treatment approaches (references available upon request).

Hope you feel better but remember get up and move!

Attached it an advice pamphlet that has also been shown to be beneficiary in those with acute low back pain.

SWeaver
08-08-2011, 09:26 AM
That first line made me laugh. I'm a PT with a doctorate from an established school (how many Chiro schools have you ever heard of?) /rant.

Acute low back pain without any leg symptoms (or at least not past the knee) does very well with manipulation (yes therapists do manipulations and if not they're providing piss poor care) and active mobility i.e. walking, single knee to chest while lying on heat, etc. Most acute low back pain will resolve within a 1-2 weeks on its own but there is research that indicates early PT (mobilization/manipulation plus specific exercises) can reduce recurrence rate and subsequent utilization of analgesics and/or surgery more so than other treatment approaches (references available upon request).

Hope you feel better but remember get up and move!

Attached it an advice pamphlet that has also been shown to be beneficiary in those with acute low back pain.

I meant that first line only as a reference for being able to prescribe RX.....no disrespect.

Thanks for the replies.:o

lintwurm
08-08-2011, 09:28 AM
Jip been there before. Went through a year of rehabilitation to strengthen my core muscles. Since then keep on exercising and making sure my core is kept up to strength and no more pain or spasms. Stopped doing sports before my back pain and then hurt it in a accident core was not strong enough to keep my spine in check. Like FNG says, keep moving. Bed rest does not help me.

_fng_
08-08-2011, 10:03 AM
I meant that first line only as a reference for being able to prescribe RX.....no disrespect.

Thanks for the replies.:o

Misinterpretation on my part. A pet-peeve of mine is when people associate DCs with spine experts and PTs as just glorified personal trainers. Manipulation is a valuable intervention in the treatment of musculoskeletal pain but past that Chiropractors are, on average, on the fringe on science at best (don't get your kids vaccinated!). //rant again

Jimmy B
08-08-2011, 10:16 AM
Went to my sports chiro sat (hes seen me for years for other sports injuries) and he told me I had a slight case of whiplash.. I know the exact crash a week ago that did it.. I also have back pain because of a few inline speed skating crashes over the past few years.

I feel your pain.. and it ***! LOL

SWeaver
08-08-2011, 11:44 AM
Misinterpretation on my part. A pet-peeve of mine is when people associate DCs with spine experts and PTs as just glorified personal trainers. Manipulation is a valuable intervention in the treatment of musculoskeletal pain but past that Chiropractors are, on average, on the fringe on science at best (don't get your kids vaccinated!). //rant again


Agreed. I would only go for manipulation. The rest of it seems WAY out there, and honestly dangerous.

g-mantrix
08-08-2011, 06:47 PM
hey SWeaver, very similar to a back issue I suffered last year. Woke up one morning and couldnt straighten up at the upper back, difficult to breathe, felt most comfort staying hunched over slightly. Went to a physio, got the lower back away from the spine worked on, instant relief. I do frequently visit a physio as I do a fair bit of active sports.
A tip is to lay on your back, and stretch your knees over side to side, also get a pilates ball, lay on it on your back, and roll and stretch out your lower to upper back. These 2 take approx 5mins a day and help heaps...goodluck

CantRepeat
08-08-2011, 07:07 PM
I would not take any non qualified advise from the forums. Go see a doctor. Sure it might be a small nothing right now... but who knows down the road?

I suffered for years by not seeing a doctor sooner then I did. Kept taking the Motrin and sucking it up.

Just go see someone, a doctor.

pmkkdx
08-08-2011, 07:12 PM
I would not take any non qualified advise from the forums. Go see a doctor. Sure it might be a small nothing right now... but who knows down the road?

I suffered for years by not seeing a doctor sooner then I did. Kept taking the Motrin and sucking it up.

Just go see someone, a doctor.

whole heartedly agree with the above! Chiro is voodoo (although they often times fix problems), PT is great (with prescription from a MD) ... 2 microdisectomy (sp?) surgeries later here, I still have to use caution and regularly do back stretches & exercises. Ibuprofin is my friend when I over do it...

Chief
08-08-2011, 07:33 PM
I would not take any non qualified advise from the forums. Go see a doctor. Sure it might be a small nothing right now... but who knows down the road?

I suffered for years by not seeing a doctor sooner then I did. Kept taking the Motrin and sucking it up.

Just go see someone, a doctor.

Motrin and sucking it up is the way, or just rub some dirt on it! It'll be alllllright!

Just Kidding! Go see the professionals!
Good luck!

SWeaver
08-08-2011, 08:59 PM
Thanks everybody. Saw a chiro today cuz i couldnt get a MD appt for anytime in the next couple days. Chiro did manipulations and that helped with the pain and improved range of motion enough to get through the day. He didnt seem too far out there....just lightly popping things back in place a bit, and working the area. If it doesnt improve further in a few days, i'll hit up a MD or PT.

Kyle
08-09-2011, 12:47 PM
Sweaver

6 years ago I stuffed the ski into the wake at -39.5 going to 4 ball. I went out the front and waded my back up the wrong way. My heals hit my ears if you know what I mean.

I felt banged up and wanted another ski ride. My driver refused to pull me. I go home and slept. Woke up the next day and could not move at all. I waited a week and purchased some insurance. Waited 90 days for pre existing conditions to lift. Set an apointment and finally got to see a dr 104 days after the accident. I still had 4 cracked vertebrae in my back and 3 ruptured discs in my neck. He also showed me other damage that was healed but guaranteed it was from the crash.

There was not much he could do but send me to therapy for a year. It had been too long after the crash to do anything. I also did chiropractor visits several times a week.

To this day I feel cronic back pain every single day and I can't even iron a shirt without my neck getting stiff or sore. Yet I still ski, I will never be as good as I once was.


Dude go see a real doctor. Then if needed a specialist. Then you can play at the chiropractor and with other therapists.

Don't be a dumb a$$ like me.

I won't go to the dr unless a bone is sticking out. I rub dirt on it and keep on going. But your back is nothing to play with.

By the way this is coming from someone who thinks and believes the medical field is a complete scam.

milkmania
08-09-2011, 01:28 PM
Never been to a chiropractor. Is there anything I should ask, or be wary of? He is a Dr, not just a therapist. Thanks for any advice :(

Don't let him talk you into a prostate exam :twocents:

oxberger
08-09-2011, 02:02 PM
Your back is nothing to fool with and if the chiro didn't take any x-rays before doing manipulations he's a quack. I had something similar happen to me. Used to work for an industrial supply company years ago as a warehouse manager. Was pulling parts one day and pulled a 75 lb. electric motor off a shelf and onto my shoulder. Didn't think anything of it until the next morning. It took me 2 hours to move 5 ft. to call work and tell them I wasn't coming in. PT only helped enough to relieve the pain for an hour or so. Ended up having 3 discectomies (L2, L3, and L5). After it was done, the Dr. said "Congrats, you now have the back of an 80 yr. old man." and that was after the first time I hurt it. Good luck and I hope all turns out ok for you. I don't wish back problems on anyone.

airdrew99
08-09-2011, 02:42 PM
Sweaver

6 years ago I stuffed the ski into the wake at -39.5 going to 4 ball. I went out the front and waded my back up the wrong way. My heals hit my ears if you know what I mean.

I felt banged up and wanted another ski ride. My driver refused to pull me. I go home and slept. Woke up the next day and could not move at all. I waited a week and purchased some insurance. Waited 90 days for pre existing conditions to lift. Set an apointment and finally got to see a dr 104 days after the accident. I still had 4 cracked vertebrae in my back and 3 ruptured discs in my neck. He also showed me other damage that was healed but guaranteed it was from the crash.

There was not much he could do but send me to therapy for a year. It had been too long after the crash to do anything. I also did chiropractor visits several times a week.

To this day I feel cronic back pain every single day and I can't even iron a shirt without my neck getting stiff or sore. Yet I still ski, I will never be as good as I once was.


Dude go see a real doctor. Then if needed a specialist. Then you can play at the chiropractor and with other therapists.

Don't be a dumb a$$ like me.

I won't go to the dr unless a bone is sticking out. I rub dirt on it and keep on going. But your back is nothing to play with.

By the way this is coming from someone who thinks and believes the medical field is a complete scam.

I agree with Kyle on this. The back is nothing to play with. Take care of it. I also have chronic back pain that affects me daily.

sp00ky
08-10-2011, 04:29 AM
Yoga takes all my pain away.. I've got bulging discs in my neck. Try p90x yoga and the whole workout.

Kyle
08-10-2011, 07:41 AM
Your back is nothing to fool with and if the chiro didn't take any x-rays before doing manipulations he's a quack.

BINGO!!!!!

Stay away from the quack's.

SWeaver
08-10-2011, 10:51 PM
Wow, sorry to hear of all your injuries. Mine turned out to be not as serious as I thought it initially might be. I should be good to go in a week or two. No vertebrae, disc or nerve damage and already starting to feel better and the swelling is noticeably better. To not be able to touch your chin to your chest (or barely even nod), barely walk, sit or get out of bed at 34yr old is kinda scary, I was lucky that it was not more serious. I ended up seeing both an MD and a chiro, and learned alot from both. But the chiro is definitely a bit more sketch, but also helped with the pain. The MD was nice to hear a solid medical analysis from though, in case it was more severe.

oldairboater
08-11-2011, 12:33 AM
Cold pack, aspirin, hot pack , rest, then exercise always works for me. I broke some ribs skiing when I was in my early twenties. I learned a valuable lesson. I could have ace wrapped them ribs and taken aspirin cheaper then that emergency room visit. Most of the time we know when it is serious, but we get into trouble when we go into denial. When I see my Dr. it is serious.