Next time your at the marina will look?

[SkiTampa]

Next time you are on the lake will you look at the boathouses. I have decided to store my MC on a three point lift. I have a open bow and want to know how and where owners connect the cable in the front of the boat. Do they pick up from the front hook?

Thanks all, Heading out to ski right now will send some pics later.

[east tx skier]

Welcome, SkiTampa.

The 2005 owner's manual is a little vague on the subject. But from past discussions on the board, this is what I've learned.

The lifting rings on a MC are not recommended for long-term storage. The only boats I know of that actually recommend lifting for storage this way are CCs. Bunks or, to a lesser extent, very specific lengths/widths of slings. I don't see what year boat you have, but just figured I'd pass this along.

[6ballsisall]

East, I am just curious, what makes a nautique able to be stored that way? Do they do something different mechanically with their boat?

[BriEOD]

Hey Ski Tampa, where in Tampa do you live?

[G-man]

ski tampa don't do it, 3 point lift is only recommended by CC, the only inboard manufacture that says you can store your boat this way.

please give these guys a call, they are in Florida


www.boatcradles.com

[east tx skier]

East, I am just curious, what makes a nautique able to be stored that way? Do they do something different mechanically with their boat?

I don't know specifically what is different. It's just something I remember. But last year, I talked to a nautique owner who was lifting his boat this way, and he said if he could do it over again, he'd go with bunks.

[G-man]

jrandel The CC hull is built stronger, that is why. We have two boats at our ski site hung by front and rear lifting rings, 2 point not three, and the hulls are fine after three years of hanging.

[shepherd]

I hung my 1990 PS 190 on a 3-point lift for over 4 years with no obvious ill effects (though I did put it on a trailer or in the water every once in a while ;) ).

[SkiTampa]

Carrolwood, yourself?

[SkiTampa]

I have an exisiting boat hous with a 3 ponit lift already in. I plan on relpacing it next year with a Cradle. I have to believe it is better to hang it for a year than to leave it in the water. The boat gets used at least once a week (except when it is to cold)

[shepherd]

I have an exisiting boat hous with a 3 ponit lift already in. I plan on relpacing it next year with a Cradle. I have to believe it is better to hang it for a year than to leave it in the water. The boat gets used at least once a week (except when it is to cold)

I was in the same situation with the new house I had. I figured I'd use the 3-point lift until I could replace it with a better system. But then we had the big drought, the lake level went way down, and a lot of boats on cradles didn't have enough water under the boat houses to lower down into (I had to put extensions on my lift cables to reach the water). After that I figured my 3-point lift could stay since I couldn't see any bad effects from it and I couldn't find anything in my owner's manual that says not to do it.

[BriEOD]

Carrolwood, yourself?

Wow, small world. I grew up in Tampa. Lived in Cumberland manors over off Ehrlich and Bellamy road next to the new Citrus Park Mall. I went to Gaither High right on Dale Mabry. I live in Charleston now but get down their a few times a year to visit my mother. Where do you ski?

[SkiTampa]

How do you attach the front cable to your boat? I have an open bow and the other boats on my lake that hand are closed bow and have a hook on top. Any ideas?

[6ballsisall]

My inquiring mind did some reading. Apparently SN glasses their lifting rings directly into the boat hull so it is integral with the hull. MC and others don't do this therefore it is not recommended to lift this way.

Thoughts of a boat dropping several feet or more due to a lifting ring that gave out just doesn't paint a pretty picture in my head :eek:

[JEREMY79]

Two words for a boat that drops a few feet

Fiberglass splinters

[6ballsisall]

Two words for a boat that drops a few feet

Fiberglass splinters

or it could 4 words

New project for Jeremy :D

[JEREMY79]

or it could 4 words

New project for Jeremy :D
:( :eek: :(

[east tx skier]

How do you attach the front cable to your boat? I have an open bow and the other boats on my lake that hand are closed bow and have a hook on top. Any ideas?

My 93 205 has a front, topside lifting ring. On the other hand, my father in law's 98 205 doesn't. I remember reading a post on here that those weren't the easiest things to add aftermarket. Or maybe it was my boat mechanic that was telling me that. Memory fades.

[milkmania]

my 91 has the front lifting ring, then on the inside it's got a rod that extends down to the bow eye with a tensioning turnbuckle

[shepherd]

my 91 has the front lifting ring, then on the inside it's got a rod that extends down to the bow eye with a tensioning turnbuckle

My '90 is the same way. Pretty stout connection. You should be OK to lift there. My main concern was flexing of the boat hull while hanging there without support in the middle, but like I said, after a few years of doing it I didn't notice any ill effects.

[6ballsisall]

Shep, you got any pics you can post of your boat hangin around? :popcorn:

[juju151]

How about this? I was thinking about this while trying to decide on how to lift my boat. You can buy another used trailer pretty cheap...doesn't have to be a MC trailer...just as long as your boat will fit it and you can adjust the bunks to work with your MC. Something like that would be easy to find and very inexpensive...then take off the axel, wheels and fender. You can attach the nose eye cable to the hitch receiver and the other two cables to the rear of the trailer. It will be a 3-point lift, but with the trailer as the cradle. Just let the trailer down in the water, pull the boat over it, and lift it using the trailer???

Anyone ever seen this done?

What do you think?

[6ballsisall]

It could certainly work. However, for the price of a used trailer I have seen used lifts go for the same $$ amount

[juju151]

It could certainly work. However, for the price of a used trailer I have seen used lifts go for the same $$ amount

Yeah you're probably right about that...but if someone was dead set on a 3-point type lift, I think I would go that route. I don't know if I would really trust those lifting eyes to hold that boat for a long time.

I pulled my rear pad and ice chest out to look at the gas tank last weekend and after looking at the inside of the lifting eyes and the way they are layed up in the fiberglass with a pretty small backing plate (IMO), I definitely wouldn't lift the boat with them unless it was for a very short period of time.

[6ballsisall]

Yeah you're probably right about that...but if someone was dead set on a 3-point type lift, I think I would go that route. I don't know if I would really trust those lifting eyes to hold that boat for a long time.

I pulled my rear pad and ice chest out to look at the gas tank last weekend and after looking at the inside of the lifting eyes and the way they are layed up in the fiberglass with a pretty small backing plate (IMO), I definitely wouldn't lift the boat with them unless it was for a very short period of time.


I agree, me thinks the pucker factor would be to great with trying to store a boat with a 3 point lift. CC may say they are made to do it with their boats but still.........

[bigmac]

Next time you are on the lake will you look at the boathouses. I have decided to store my MC on a three point lift. I have a open bow and want to know how and where owners connect the cable in the front of the boat. Do they pick up from the front hook?

Thanks all, Heading out to ski right now will send some pics later.

FWIW, this pic is from the Supra owner's manual regarding their recommended method of the bow section of three-point hoisting. Makes sense to me. A spreader bar is probably a good idea.

http://mccollister.info/hoisting.jpg


MasterCraft, in their 2004 owner's manual, says:

Using Lifting Eyes
"An overhead hoist with two-ton capacity (minimum) should be used to lift your boat. Cables should be rated
for at least 3500 pounds each. When lifting, keep the bow slightly higher than the stern to prevent any possibility
of water running into the engine exhaust manifold."

What I don't know is whether or not the eyes on the transom are capable of lifting the boat. I kind of get that impression from the manual, but I'm not sure. It's the kind of thing I'd call MasterCraft about before I did it.

I have a buddy who had a three point hoisting system on his lift. I helped him convert it to bunks by getting a couple of 8-foot lengths of 2x6 aluminum tubing and securing the cables to that ("V" cable on the front lifting cable) and running bunks the long way between them attached to the 2x6 cross-pieces.

http://mccollister.info/cradlehoist.jpg

[shepherd]

Shep, you got any pics you can post of your boat hangin around? :popcorn:

Try this, best I got. Sold the house and moved last fall :cry:
Can't really see in this pic, but I had one hook on the bow ring and one each on the lifting rings on the transom (they're called lifting rings so I figured I could lift my boat with them :rolleyes: )

[Jim@BAWS]

Ski Tampa

Sorry I do not know you or maybe I do.
if we can be of assistance please do not hesitate to call

Please do not hang your craft from the lifting eyes. It is better
to cradle your boat from underneath. What make and model
boat do you own?

Jim at Bay Area WaterSports (813) 996 2297
Tampa Bay's Exclusive Mastercraft Dealer
www.bayareawatersports.com

[shepherd]

Please do not hang your craft from the lifting eyes. It is better to cradle your boat from underneath.

Why not?

I agree cradle puts less stress on boat but... why not??? Does anyone know of any boats that were damaged by lifting with the LIFTING eyes?

:confused:

[BriEOD]

I wouldn't lift my boat by the lifting eyes. When I added the boat buddy to my trailer I had to replace the stock 1" bow eye with a 3" bow eye that comes with the boat buddy kit. Their isn't a whole lot holding that thing in (at least on my boat). It has like a 1"x4' backing plate and 2 nuts and the fiberglass. I'd go with the lift.