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Gabe63
07-29-2011, 04:00 PM
I will be redoing the interior of my 2000 210VRS this winter. I will be making the skins. I have ordered a lot of samples online and decided on a material. Of the two closest base white material I am leaning to the more cream on the left, it is called off white. Do others think the right white is too bright? It is actually not a true white but I think it is too bright. I will use tan and green accents.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2170.jpg

agarabaghi
07-29-2011, 04:04 PM
white. wont be as hot.

Gabe63
07-29-2011, 04:19 PM
I appreciate the input.

Interstingly I checked the temps since the last post. After about 1 hour both vinyls are within 3 degrees of eachother so I am not concerned (114 vs 117). They are both cooler than the original vinyl. The green and tan are about 30 degrees warmer though.

I can live with 3 degrees. The off white which looks a little cream seems to match the original color much more.

I am mainly concerned about looks, both are very good quality. What about the carbon fibre look, they make the same colors in CF.

agarabaghi
07-29-2011, 04:34 PM
i think youd get sick of CF look if they even offer it. Go with the off white and whatever trim matches your boat

Thrall
07-29-2011, 07:47 PM
The new MC's have a carbon fibre look vinyl. Pretty sharp, IMO. Also like the new MC "denim" looking vinyl.
Of your choices there, go with the cream/off white. That white looks like a pain to keep clean. Plus it matches pretty well if you're not re-doing every single piece.

ahhudgins
07-29-2011, 07:51 PM
I think the off white will look better with the tan and green.

Jerseydave
07-29-2011, 08:25 PM
Off-white would be my pick.

I have a stark-white couch in my living room......no one is allowed to sit on it :D

BallBushing
07-30-2011, 07:38 AM
Off white, keep true to the original color. Interested in the final outcome, I have the same boat, same colors.

The8Ball
07-30-2011, 09:52 AM
Off white...

-V-
07-30-2011, 01:08 PM
how hard is it to do?

and my choice would be the one on the left

Gabe63
07-31-2011, 11:23 AM
Thanks for the input everyone. I probably wont get to the project until this winter but I want to collect the material now. I plan to use the off white on the left in the photo.

I want to update some of the patterns at the same time.

As far as hard, it just takes time and the right tools. I have two industrial sewing machines and have completely re-upholstered a few vehicles in the past.

Gabe63
08-31-2011, 08:09 PM
Another question. I have seen the diamond pattern sewn into newer Mastercrafts. Has anyone had any issues with the threads being torn, do you wish you didn't have this pattern? I am using the correct sunfast upholstery thread as would Mastercraft.

I was playing around to see how hard it was to do, don't be too critical since this was just a test to see if it would turn out. What do you think, offset thread color?

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2273.jpg

Covi
08-31-2011, 08:16 PM
Another question. I have seen the diamond pattern sewn into newer Mastercrafts. Has anyone had any issues with the threads being torn, do you wish you didn't have this pattern? I am using the correct sunfast upholstery thread as would Mastercraft.

I was playing around to see how hard it was to do, don't be too critical since this was just a test to see if it would turn out. What do you think, offset thread color?

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2273.jpg

I think your test pad looks great....I'd love to see a sample of the stitching with an offset color.

Gabe63
08-31-2011, 08:28 PM
Thanks, it may be hard to tell but the thread used is dark brown in the above photo. It makes the diamond pattern really show up in person.

The test is so so since the foam is too soft and I used scraps for the sides so they are not perfect. But the diamond pattern turned out nice. I need to increase the stitch length next time. That is why I am testing anyways. I have not done an interior in many years.

Try this, does it show up, good, bad?

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2274.jpg

79 S@S rda
08-31-2011, 09:15 PM
Looks good to me. I'll send you my skins if you want to practice some more before you make your own. :)

Cooter
09-01-2011, 12:02 AM
"I was playing around...just a test" Gosh, I can't wait to see what kind of art you make when you get down to business. I'd say you know what you're doing with those sewing machines. Go with the off-white, it won't look so sterile like a hospital. That diamond pattern reminds me of my gramma's vinyl dining room set from the 60's.

Gabe63
09-01-2011, 01:14 AM
Cooter, I am playing around with trying to match the Maristar interior feel with an update like we see on newer mastercrafts. That is why I am considering the diamond pattern. I dont want to go overboard either so I appreciate input.

http://www.houstonboats4sale.com/Media/11024_2.jpg

-V-
09-01-2011, 08:14 AM
Once your done, do you have any plans of making some spare money? The military is moving me to California next year, the Tracy area, and my interior is in BAD need of replacement. What do you think?

Cooter
09-01-2011, 09:28 AM
Thanks Gabe. Don't get me wrong; I like the diamond pattern. I should have clarified that a little more in my first post.
That said, remember that it came and went back in the 50's-60's. And it'll come and go again. I think the non-diamond is a more timeless look. However, if you can whip out seat covers with your eyes closed (you do great work), then I wouldn't worry about it. Go diamond now. You can always go non-diamond later down the road.

JimN
09-01-2011, 09:49 AM
The one on the right is more of a "bright white"- it has a bit of blue tint. Check with DLT- they may have something that's closer to the original color but I really don't think the one at the left will look bad. It may look warmer once the other colors are in there, though. I have never thought it was practical to try to come too close- it's frustrating and often, the lighting will change the way it looks. Better to find something that looks good and complements the other colors, IMO.

DLT (DuBois Fabrics)- http://www.duboisfabrics.com/category_s/186.htm

GoneBoatN
09-01-2011, 08:12 PM
I like the diamond pattern but then again I feel I'm bias. Also, my opinion is go with the off white. I think perhaps elongate the diamonds a bit to make them less square when viewed at an angle.

Gabe63
09-28-2011, 09:40 PM
So I made one cover with the white and diamond pattern, did not look like it matched the boat. Went with a different look and come nuetral carbon fibre and base colors. Just the front so far. I think the look works with the boat.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2381.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2377.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2380.jpg

Gabe63
09-28-2011, 09:43 PM
a few more

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2384.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2385.jpg

Cloaked
09-28-2011, 09:54 PM
So I made one cover with the white and diamond pattern, did not look like it matched the boat. Went with a different look and come nuetral carbon fibre and base colors. Just the front so far. I think the look works with the boat.
Looks great. I like it a lot. Cutting edge look, subtle, blended, and unique... it fits the boat....

Where did you find the material?

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BrianT
09-28-2011, 10:18 PM
Wow, do I ever like that!! Great job

Gabe63
09-28-2011, 10:23 PM
Looks great. I like it a lot. Cutting edge look, subtle, blended, and unique... it fits the boat....

Where did you find the material?

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Thanks, I just put them in tonight, cant wait to see them in the sun. I bought everything from the links below, great material! What is nice is they are made by the same company with many colors in both smooth and CF.

http://www.yourautotrim.com/grandcayman.html

http://www.yourautotrim.com/naskcfivi.html

agarabaghi
09-29-2011, 07:49 AM
Looks awesome.

Do you think it will be hard to keep clean? seems like with textures dirt can easily find it's way into the material?

BallBushing
09-29-2011, 01:42 PM
Is smooth vinyl used for the front part of the seat cushions? (vs. the CF looking material)

Really like how it looks.

Gabe63
09-29-2011, 03:28 PM
Yes, I used smooth vinyl on the front of the seat back, and the sides and "front hump" of the seat bottoms. I am sure it will be a little harder to clean than smooth vinyl.

Thanks for the support. I am making the bow filler today. Using marine board to replace the wood. Just have to decide what material to use, and pattern or simple...

jmhjgh
09-30-2011, 11:55 AM
Looks great. What type of thread are you using?

Gabe63
09-30-2011, 04:20 PM
I think the bow filler came out perfect!

To answer the last question: you have to use a sungard marine type thread like v92 (t90) bonded polyester for this type of work.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/DSCN1555.jpg

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/DSCN1557.jpg

Cloaked
09-30-2011, 08:52 PM
Looks professional and very good. Excellent work....

That looks just fine with the rest of the boat...


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DemolitionMan
09-30-2011, 09:23 PM
That looks very nice, great job.

DooSPX
10-02-2011, 08:54 PM
Looks Great! Thank you for the updates! Cannot wait to see the rest of the pictures. I might even have to use a little CF in my 91 WHEN i replace the skins.

Gabe63
10-22-2011, 05:15 PM
So I have completed 5 more seats. I changed the sun deck to what I see on 04'ish boats but the rear half circle is CF and not dark. The interior is turning out nice, wait till you see the drivers seat, I am waiting for 1/4 inch SS staples to arrive.

http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2547.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2546.jpg
http://i263.photobucket.com/albums/ii122/55SAMBA/IMG_2549.jpg

Patsfan
10-26-2011, 07:55 PM
White attracts more uv's! Don't ask me why. They are hotter too the touch than light greys. Looks like your boat is the polo green. tan and black looks great.

Sodar
10-26-2011, 10:33 PM
Looks fantastic! I think I found a new interior guy in California! :)

Jeff d
01-20-2012, 07:33 PM
I've been thinking about making my own skins too.

I have access to a friend's commercial sewing machine that he uses to sew vinyl for restaurant booth seats and what not.

Did you cut/sew the vinyl to match the old skins exactly? My friend with the sewing machine was thinking I'd need to cut and sew everything slightly smaller to account for the original vinyl being stretched.

JimN
01-20-2012, 07:37 PM
I've been thinking about making my own skins too.

I have access to a friend's commercial sewing machine that he uses to sew vinyl for restaurant booth seats and what not.

Did you cut/sew the vinyl to match the old skins exactly? My friend with the sewing machine was thinking I'd need to cut and sew everything slightly smaller to account for the original vinyl being stretched.

If they still fit well, stretching isn't really an issue, is it? If your friend is an upholsterer, he should have a steamer and the foam should be steamed before the new skins go on. Also, if he's your friend, he might give you a break on the labor- first-time sewing isn't usually the best way to get good results.

Jeff d
01-20-2012, 10:12 PM
If they still fit well, stretching isn't really an issue, is it? If your friend is an upholsterer, he should have a steamer and the foam should be steamed before the new skins go on. Also, if he's your friend, he might give you a break on the labor- first-time sewing isn't usually the best way to get good results.

His mom does all of the upholstery for his business, not him. He does light commercial remodeling and renovation. Not sure about a steamer. Also, my wife sews a lot as well as my mom. Never with vinyl though. I figured it might be worth a shot given how much it costs to have it done. I'm also an IT guy so we always think we can do anything ourselves. Ha!

I would just buy enough to do a couple of cushions that are cracked anyway. Really the only bad part on my boat are the rear seat bottoms. They couldn't really look much worse than they already do. If it comes out not so good I would just let it ride for a couple of years until the rest is in worse shape and then have a full set made.

If it turns out well then I can proceed with the rest later.

Jeff d
01-20-2012, 10:17 PM
If they still fit well, stretching isn't really an issue, is it?

Oh and I think that the logic is that the factory skins were smaller when they were put on. They stretched a bit but still fit good. If you make the new ones the same size and they stretch by a similar amount they'd then be kinda loose

TOO-TALL
02-18-2012, 11:41 PM
Gabe 63,

Great thread.And your seats look amazing.

Thanks for posting the links on where you bought your vinyl.
I have a lady here in town that normaly does Vinyl work.I think she retired because i can't get ahold of her.Anyway I just replaced my engine cover base and removed the vinyl then reistalled on the new base what a.... PITA!!!!!
I'm never doing that again...I have no patiance for that type of work.

mikeg205
02-19-2012, 12:14 AM
+1 on the links for the material - Need to start practicing for when I have to redo my '95.

MachinedConcepts
02-24-2014, 09:00 AM
Gabe,
The skins look amazing! Did you have any issues stretching them over the foam? I was going to replace a few skins of my own, and was looking for some suggestions. Any advise?

Traxx822
02-24-2014, 09:26 AM
Gabe,

Your interior is very unique. I like the blend of the different flavors. The spots you chose for the CF were well thought out and it looks good.

I too struggled with what to do as far as CF or natural when I redid my interior. I was being shown multiple combinations and couldn't settle on anything and just finally decided CF the whole thing lol. I do not regret it one bit. I had the interior seat bottoms reupholstered when I bought the boat in the original style vinyl in the brighter white. This was before I redid my entire interior. Those new seats looked like garbage after one season. The ones that were the natural bright white. I am really glad I chose the CF everywhere as it holds up better and cleans better imho. You will be very happy you used the CF in in the high traffic areas and spots where heat was an issue. Which is where I noticed the most wear on the old non CF seats and cooler temps in color vs the natural.

are you planning any embroidery? or did I miss it?

http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showpost.php?p=929638&postcount=36