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TayMC197
07-11-2011, 12:02 PM
Just picked up that 02 197 Tournament team... Love the boat but can't say I like the prop... not sure of whats on it but I'm needing advice to see what is the correct prop for it.. I'm interested in slalom performance...

Problem I'm having now is maintaining speed control... have a good speed variation when skiers are cutting, also the wake is a bit stiff (not bad but harder than my friends 197) ... I have a 1:1..

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 12:05 PM
I do know its a 4 blade stainless... which I want to put a brass on it anyway... Its the size of a powerslot prop... Could it be oversize? if it was a slot, I wouldn't think it would have that much issue maintaining speed.

EJ OJPROP
07-11-2011, 12:44 PM
What is the size, 14 X 18, 14 X 20 or 13 X 13?

03 35th Anniversary
07-11-2011, 01:12 PM
What Motor are you running? MCX or RTP?

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 03:16 PM
RTP .... The prop that is currently on the boat appears to be a power slot prop... It was a good 2" larger in diameter than my friends 1:1 prop.

Jim@BAWS
07-11-2011, 03:19 PM
This is REALLY confusing. A TT Boat with a 1:1 RTP? Are you sure you have a TT boat??

13 x 13 on a 1 inch shaft or a 14 x 18 on a 1 1/8....Inquiring minds want to know


Jim

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 03:20 PM
Your TT is a 1:1? I thought all TT were powerslots? Call Eric from OJ, he will get you a prop that is best for your needs and let you try it for free before you pay him.

DwayneR
07-11-2011, 04:48 PM
I have the same boat the stock prop is a 14x20 SS. I talked to OJ about replacement prop for better hole shot and Eric suggested a 13.7x17.7 .110 cup.

TxsRiverRat
07-11-2011, 05:07 PM
One guy (different boat than you) in our club has a 4 blade prop and his boat pulled very unforgivingly through the course and the wake seemed harder...

Maybe it was just my imagination, but I have a 3 blade on my 205 and the wake is so much softer and the pull doesn't seem so harsh

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 05:14 PM
Its not all 4 blades, but you need to get the right prop for your boat from Eric. The CNC 4 blade 13.7 x 17.5 .110 the feel is softer then the stock 14 x 18 3 blade SS, and my RPM's dropped by about 200 at ski speeds as well.

BTW, TxRiverRat, the 4 blades work better then 3 blades on powerslot trans for some reason.
I called Eric and talked to him forever, he sent me a prop to try before he even wanted a CC number. Eric is GREAT to deal with!

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 05:28 PM
This is REALLY confusing. A TT Boat with a 1:1 RTP? Are you sure you have a TT boat??

13 x 13 on a 1 inch shaft or a 14 x 18 on a 1 1/8....Inquiring minds want to know


Jim

I'm positive its a powerslot... it just doesn't feel like it... hard time out of the hole, hard to maintain slalom speed... I'm going to get all of the info tonight when I get home... yesterday was my first day to ski behind it... so didn't notice to late yesterday afternoon untill it was clear enough to start skiing. The shaft appears to be 1 1/8".... I'm thinking the guy put a show prop on more than a practical one...

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 05:30 PM
Your TT is a 1:1? I thought all TT were powerslots? Call Eric from OJ, he will get you a prop that is best for your needs and let you try it for free before you pay him.

What confused me was, when I was buying it, the guy said thats what tranny was in it.. Then after talking a little more, he didn't seem to hit on all cylinders either... guess thats why I got a fair price on the boat.

TxsRiverRat
07-11-2011, 05:34 PM
The shaft appears to be 1 1/8"

I hope that's not what she said lol

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 05:36 PM
I thought TT's also were all 6 liters. Taylor, just call Eric, he will let you try as many props as he recommends to you with payment. When I got my CNC #454 prop from him, it took me forever to get payment to him and I felt horrible. He told me no problem what so ever.

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 05:38 PM
I hope that's not what she said lol

You've had that experience already haven't you? :D

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 05:40 PM
[QUOTE=TxsRiverRat;770380]I hope that's not what she said lol

I go for the ellimate of suprise.. make them expect less :D

east tx skier
07-11-2011, 05:58 PM
I thought TT's also were all 6 liters.

No, there are plenty of TT boats with MCXs in them and, apparently, some with RTPs in 2002. Back then, MC was apparently sending a few more engine/transmission combos than they send these days. You need to remember also that in 2002, the horsepower expectations from consumers weren't as high as they are now, particularly not in slalom boats.

A 197 with 310 hp and a 1.52:1 transmission ought to have no trouble passing any of the AWSA tests. Yes, higher horsepower had been available for some time, but people were still plenty satisfied with 310 hp.

TxsRiverRat
07-11-2011, 06:45 PM
You've had that experience already haven't you?

[QUOTE=TxsRiverRat;770380]I hope that's not what she said lol

I go for the ellimate of suprise.. make them expect less


:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhamme

TayMC197
07-11-2011, 09:16 PM
I have the same boat the stock prop is a 14x20 SS. I talked to OJ about replacement prop for better hole shot and Eric suggested a 13.7x17.7 .110 cup.

Well it is a powerslot.. HSW 450 A2 1.5... It's a stainless prop and appears to be a 14x20...

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 09:58 PM
well, call Eric and tell him the engine, trans, stock prop and what you want out of it and let him send you one and back on the water!! :D

DooSPX
07-11-2011, 09:58 PM
No, there are plenty of TT boats with MCXs in them and, apparently, some with RTPs in 2002. Back then, MC was apparently sending a few more engine/transmission combos than they send these days. You need to remember also that in 2002, the horsepower expectations from consumers weren't as high as they are now, particularly not in slalom boats.

A 197 with 310 hp and a 1.52:1 transmission ought to have no trouble passing any of the AWSA tests. Yes, higher horsepower had been available for some time, but people were still plenty satisfied with 310 hp.

thanks ETS! I did not know that. Thanks for the info!:cool:

Kyle
07-12-2011, 12:07 AM
Too much pitch. Get another one from Eric and she will scream

AussieMC
07-12-2011, 12:17 AM
Let me know how you go with props, I've got a 2003 TT with RTP / Power slot, it also has the 14 x 20, 4 Blade SS prop, I think it performs fine, but if you gain perfomance with new prop I'd like to hear.

DooSPX
07-12-2011, 01:21 AM
I don't understand why people will not just call or PM Eric from OJ tell him what you have and what you want from the prop, he will then send you a props to try till you find the one you like and then you pay him. He will not even ask for a penny until you are happy. You do not like any of the props, then you are not out anything but time on the lake. How bad is that?

TayMC197
07-12-2011, 12:54 PM
Cuase we like getting you all upset DOO! lol... I did call Eric, waiting for him to call me back.:D

Thanks Jim for running the numbers for me.... It is a RTP with a Powerslot running a SS 14x20.... and Jim verified it is a Tournament Team...

So once I hear from Eric, I will try out a new prop and determine if I have better performance...

east tx skier
07-12-2011, 06:20 PM
I don't understand why people will not just call or PM Eric from OJ tell him what you have and what you want from the prop, he will then send you a props to try till you find the one you like and then you pay him. He will not even ask for a penny until you are happy. You do not like any of the props, then you are not out anything but time on the lake. How bad is that?

Don't get me wrong, I think Eric is great, his props are great, and he provides fantastic customer service.

But the best advice, in my opinion is for someone to try an OJ side-by-side with an Acme and make the best decision for their application based on a hands on comparison. Acme also offers (or has offered) a 30 day money back policy. There are very subtle differences between the OJ and Acme prop designs that just have to be experienced before you can really know which is better for you.

I have run OJ and Acme props on my last two boats and have run a few XMPs on my father in law's 205. And even then, I still can't say that there is a single manufacturer solution for everyone.

AussieMC
07-13-2011, 02:56 AM
I don't understand why people will not just call or PM Eric from OJ tell him what you have and what you want from the prop, he will then send you a props to try till you find the one you like and then you pay him. He will not even ask for a penny until you are happy. You do not like any of the props, then you are not out anything but time on the lake. How bad is that?

I don't think it would be fair for me "to just call Eric" I'm not sure the shipping back and forth would be beneficial to either of us. But if someone can get better performance with an identical boat / different prop and tell everyone on Team Talk, I'm sure it would make Eric's sales a bit easier.:)

DooSPX
07-13-2011, 07:26 PM
I don't think it would be fair for me "to just call Eric" I'm not sure the shipping back and forth would be beneficial to either of us. But if someone can get better performance with an identical boat / different prop and tell everyone on Team Talk, I'm sure it would make Eric's sales a bit easier.:)

I don't know about over there, but here in the US, he does not charge shipping to try the props.