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east tx skier
08-26-2004, 12:13 PM
This is a carry-over from another thread. I just emailed Steve Schnitzer who is interested in working with us on a group buy for Acme Harmonic Prop Pullers. I think they usually sell for around $30 per unit. I've asked him to give us a quote as to how many people we need and a per unit price and am waiting to hear back.

I've never organized one of these before, so if anyone has any advice or wants to take the helm, now'd be the time.

Let me know if you're interested.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 12:31 PM
Doug,
I currently have a prop puller... not sure what kind it is... Thankful that I have only had to use it once. It is the treaded type that reaches behind the prop... and as you tighten it down it pops the prop loose. Would the one that you are working on work any different. Price talks... could be a good Christmas Gift. :D

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 12:33 PM
Okay, heard back from Schnitz. With a group buy of 15 or more, we can get them for $28 delivered in the United States.

Don't forget to let me know what the diameter of your prop shaft is.

So far, we have two on the list. You can email me if you like.

chris.willman
08-26-2004, 12:34 PM
15 deliveries? Or 1?

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 12:48 PM
15 deliveries. We could get more of a discount with 1 delivery, but quite frankly, I don't want to juggle all of that and think that he may have a better handle on good shipping deals than someone like me.

Tom, this is different. It just screws onto the end of the shaft in place of the nut. You hit it once or twice with a hammer and (in theory) it pops off.

Tim has had good results with his.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 12:55 PM
Thanks Doug... Since I have only had to use once in over 9 years. I'll put the $28 towards carpet/skins. This for the information and effort. "Two hit with the hammer", hmmmm.

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 01:14 PM
Let's say "taps."

Probably not a bad thing to have handy if you ding your prop though. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 01:18 PM
I have one... just a different style. Thanks again.

Tom023
08-26-2004, 01:20 PM
For $28 bucks I'll give one a try, even though I have the other type. Could be a lot easier if need to swap at the lake. If it doesn't work it will be an interesting paper weight in the office. I have 1 1/8" shaft.

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 01:23 PM
Got you down Tom, and welcome to the board. Are you on the Lakes at Cypress Hills? If so, my compliments on a beautiful ski site. I was there for regionals (not skiing).

Farmer Ted
08-26-2004, 01:28 PM
I've got one and it's a peice of pie to use.

Take the cotter pin and nut off

twist the harmonic puller on until it's just about to touch the prop

whack the $hit out of it with a hammer, sorry dudes but tapping it won't work you need to create some harmonics

remove puller, remove prop

I found spraying some break free at the fwd end of the prop and letting it seap down helps the effort

you must be very careful not to smack your rudder or prop

Here's a shot of the puller installed with my old 4 blade

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 01:34 PM
Thanks for the pic, Tim. I should mention that Schnitz specified the delivered price for shipments within the U.S., so I don't know about our friends to the North. Sorry :(

Robert Averyt
08-26-2004, 04:21 PM
Doug,

I have a puller but great Idea on the group buy.

If anyone is interested I have been buying lake dye from seapro for our lake. We could save alot of money If We could order in large quantities.
They have dye and all kinds of aquatic herbicides.
Does anyone have interest in this.

tall_ andy
08-26-2004, 04:51 PM
For $28.00 I'm in also. Not sure about prop diamater, its an 88' Prostar with a 351. I'll check the HIN vs the chart on the other posting.

east tx skier
08-26-2004, 05:11 PM
Andy, I'll put you on the list. Unless it's a power slot, you're running a 1" shaft though. Let me know for sure though.

tall_ andy
08-26-2004, 05:43 PM
It's a Velvet Drive 1:1 Tranny so I guess that means its a 1" shaft.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 05:44 PM
Farmer Ted,
That doesn't look like much room to be able swing a hammer. Might be the angle. :eek:

NeilM
08-26-2004, 06:24 PM
Is there a quick way to find out what diameter shaft you have - ie. by year or something?

H20skeefreek
08-26-2004, 08:06 PM
Doug,

I have a puller but great Idea on the group buy.

If anyone is interested I have been buying lake dye from seapro for our lake. We could save alot of money If We could order in large quantities.
They have dye and all kinds of aquatic herbicides.
Does anyone have interest in this.

lake dye? like to change the color, i don't get it.

Stritt
08-26-2004, 08:33 PM
I have one. Group buys can be a good thing.

MarkP
08-26-2004, 09:08 PM
Dam, I was in until j2 on the “procedure for changing a prop” thread posted the blueprints for the H prop puller.:o

Robert Averyt
08-27-2004, 10:17 AM
H20 Skeefreek.

We have to dye the water in our ski lake to keep the sun light from getting to the bottom and growing plant life. The water is too clear otherwise.

Have you ever seen a private lake that looks toilet bowl blue. This is why.

east tx skier
08-27-2004, 11:33 AM
Neil, I think the rule of thumb is if you have a 1:1, you have a 1" shaft. If you have a power slot, it's 1 1/8".

lakes Rick
08-27-2004, 01:14 PM
Group buys have never worked for me.. Its like having a group buy on a wife.. Someone always seems to be in possesion of it and eventually thinks its their's.....

east tx skier
08-27-2004, 01:30 PM
Well, if we don't get some numbers on this one in the next week or so, I'm giong to say it was worth a try and just buy the stupid puller for myself. Didn't really do this because I was itching to save $2. I really just wanted to get the ball rolling so others might start group buys that could save people money on all sorts of things.

As for the possession thing, I must need more coffee, b/c I don't get the analogy.

MarkP
08-27-2004, 02:07 PM
Rick

I don’t think you get it. They want to buy a bunch of-m. Not one to share..

east tx skier
08-27-2004, 05:13 PM
See, Mark's been paying attention. Gold star!

NeilM
08-27-2004, 07:59 PM
V-Drive also equals 1.125" - I just put the calipers on it...

I'm still "in", as long as he doesn't want a big premium to ship to Canada.

André
08-27-2004, 09:23 PM
Thomas
Check out Robert's lake...Nice!
http://personalwebs.myriad.net/raveryt/

lakes Rick
08-27-2004, 09:33 PM
Rick

I don’t think you get it. They want to buy a bunch of-m. Not one to share..



OOHHHH Call me the dummy today.......

east tx skier
08-28-2004, 01:45 PM
To my friends in Canada, assuming we get enough people to make this happen, I'll have him send yours to me and I'll send them on to you. That way, no tariffs. We'll figure out the weight and shipping ahead of time, and just add that to the total. Having dealt with Schnitz before, the stuff you're getting isn't coming from him, but rather, from the manufacturer (at least with Acme and Perfect Pass).

east tx skier
08-30-2004, 11:46 AM
Just wanted to push this back to the top. I'm going to give it until Friday. If we don't get enough interested people, I'll just declare it a bust, and hope that people are at least thinking about group buys as a result.

tall_ andy
08-30-2004, 04:03 PM
If the group buy ends up as a bust, please post the link to the site where we can still buy the pullers. I just got a prop off e-bay and will need the puller soon!
Thanks

east tx skier
08-30-2004, 06:42 PM
No problem. Again, if we can make it work, I'm all for it. But, like you, I want to get this thing in the not so distant future.

NeilM
08-31-2004, 02:01 AM
Doug, how many takers you have so far? Are you even close?

I guess I just don't get it. There are a zillion people here - maybe non of them ever bend or change a prop?

Either way - get me one, if your offer for re-mailing it still stands (hmmm... take it out of the package, cover it in grease, put it in a baggie in an envelope and describe it as a $4 propshaft nut on the shipping forms....)

east tx skier
08-31-2004, 11:07 AM
Not very close. Needed 15. Have 4. Happy to help, but let's wait until Friday to be sure it's not going to happen. I'll be ordering it through Schnitz. Before I do, you might want to email him to double check what it would cost you. Might be cheaper than having it shipped to me, then shipped back to Canada.

The grease probably won't be necessary. I've shipped a couple of skis that I've ebayed and it was only a few bucks more than shipping it to the lower 48.

chris.willman
08-31-2004, 02:51 PM
You can make it 5, but sounds like that isn't going to help much.

east tx skier
08-31-2004, 03:09 PM
Thanks. I've got you on the list of people to notify when it goes bust. :)

martini
08-31-2004, 03:12 PM
Wish I needed one. It was one of the first specialty tools I bought when I started the rebuild on my 84. Good luck!

lakes Rick
08-31-2004, 05:38 PM
Wish I needed one. It was one of the first specialty tools I bought when I started the rebuild on my 84. Good luck!

I already have one also......

Skiufool
08-31-2004, 11:17 PM
For $28, I'll give it a shot as well! Count me in... I have a 1" shaft.

east tx skier
09-01-2004, 11:50 AM
Gotcha, Skiu'.

Skiufool
09-01-2004, 08:49 PM
My bad East Tx, make that a 1 1/8" shaft size!

east tx skier
09-02-2004, 12:15 PM
Got it. But we'd better get a lot of orders by tomorrow!

east tx skier
09-03-2004, 11:19 AM
Well, folks, it's a bust. The good news is that the actual price is only $30. Schnitz has them. You could give acme a try as well. Don't know who else has them. Hope we start seeing more group buys on the board even though this one didn't work out.