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TeamIDFC
06-27-2011, 03:42 PM
The advance of the clock and the aging of the back has sent another Prostar 190 to the sales line… I can’t do the sort of morning skis I used to, and I got tired of dealing with two boats (the PS190 and a 24’ pontoon), so we’ve consolidated into one boat...

I just picked up a 2003 X2. 270 hours on the MCX (yeah!), all the normal features (zero flex, triple ballast, PerfectPass, tandem), as well as a bimini, lube pump, and really nice tower lights. $26,200, plus $350 in gas to pick it up, and the $110 speeding ticket I got on the way there… :)

The boat is in generally good shape – a few small tears in the vinyl, some dock rash, but a good ready-to-be-used boat. I do have a couple of questions for the masters of the Mastercraft world, though…

1 – The pumps. Wow, are they the slowest things on the planet? And they (it?) seem to only work one at a time? I’m sure there is an obvious upgrade – I’d love someone to point me to the right thread. Or, do I just upgrade the impellers in them?

2 – The rear tanks. They are the stock ones, and I’m sure within a month I’m going to want to be trying surfing, so should I just pull them and replace them with the largest bags that can fit (along with new pumps from #1 above)?

3 – The PerfectPass. I only got to spend a few minutes playing with it during the on-water test, but I already want to upgrade it to a Stargazer and not have to deal with all the calibration/beeping/etc. I’m (obviously with this boat) not running through the course, but wife-approval factor would seem to be even higher with the simplicity of Stargazer, but would it be total overkill?

4 – Anything else I should be looking at improving/replacing? This is likely my last “new” boat, so spending a few bucks now will provide years of return.

Thanks for any/all advice,

Michael

mseller
06-27-2011, 03:52 PM
congrats on the purchase!

1- check the impellers out in the pumps. if they are black or yellow you are going to want to upgrade to the green one's

2-if you are able to remove your hard tanks I would definitly try that first(instead of piggy back method) and replace with biggest bag you can fit in space

3-if it pleases wife why not?!

agarabaghi
06-27-2011, 03:55 PM
Nice looking boat, lets see if i can help.

1) Im assuming you are talking ballast? They should all be able to fill / empty at the same time. You might need to just get new pumps. Wakemakers.com has both the oem replacement and a Johnsom pump which fits in. You could try the impeller upgrade. How long is long?

2) For your weight setup this is what i would sugguest. (2) 750 fly high with adaptors to pump into pumps. 560lbs of lead in the nose, unless you trailer then 2 x 350lbs fat sacs in the walkway and on the seats. That is perfect for wakeboarding. If you are just going to surf then dont fill up the 2 on the nose and just do the center and which ever side you surf on.

3) Im pretty sure you have to deal with the same beeping / menu process with the star gazzer. Once your PP is calibrater, its really pretty simple. I have the PP pro and have been offered the star gazzer from a friend but just dont feel the need to upgrade it.

4) Stereo? I just install a pretty nice system in my boat so ask away. Dual Batteries? Are you going to replace the ripped seats?

TeamIDFC
06-27-2011, 07:41 PM
1- check the impellers out in the pumps. if they are black or yellow you are going to want to upgrade to the green one's
That's probably a good first step.


2-if you are able to remove your hard tanks I would definitly try that first(instead of piggy back method) and replace with biggest bag you can fit in space

Is there any advantage to running side-by-side with tanks and bags?

TeamIDFC
06-27-2011, 07:47 PM
2) For your weight setup this is what i would sugguest. (2) 750 fly high with adaptors to pump into pumps. 560lbs of lead in the nose, unless you trailer then 2 x 350lbs fat sacs in the walkway and on the seats. That is perfect for wakeboarding. If you are just going to surf then dont fill up the 2 on the nose and just do the center and which ever side you surf on.
Couple q's:
- The boat's on a lift, so no trailer, but for crusing am I going to be annoyed by all that weight always up there?
- Does that weight strategy for surfing imply that I could add a single bag to the surf-side in addition to the factory ballast and get a decent surf wake?


4) Stereo? I just install a pretty nice system in my boat so ask away. Dual Batteries? Are you going to replace the ripped seats?
- The prior owner replaced the stereo entire system - I've got high-end mains and tweeters, massive sub, and more amp than my house.
- It's got duals with the cut-over switch, so we've covered on the batteries
- The tears are small and minor, I'll probably wait until they develop into something you actually notice.

sand2snow22
06-27-2011, 07:49 PM
Did you get it in Spokane? Where is your local lake?

TeamIDFC
06-27-2011, 08:17 PM
Did you get it in Spokane? Where is your local lake?
Yup, drug it back to Lake Sammamish from Spokane...

oumiller28
06-27-2011, 09:39 PM
Hey I just wanted to say congrats on a great boat! Looks nice.
As for ballast... I'd go with the: a lot is good, more is better and too much is just right!
Keep the tanks and add some fly high sacs where ever the fit!

agarabaghi
06-27-2011, 09:45 PM
lose the tanks and put the 750s. It will fully fill those rear hatches perfectly.

absolutezero
06-30-2011, 12:23 AM
... the $110 speeding ticket I got on the way there… :)

Seems reasonable to drive to fast to pick up this boat. Cop must not have been a boater...

rgardjr1
06-30-2011, 02:12 AM
Yup, drug it back to Lake Sammamish from Spokane...

I thought it looked familiar when you posted the pics.

bturner2
06-30-2011, 08:44 AM
Congrats on the boat!

Pumps.... Most likely the impellers and design.

Ballast..... Call Wake Makers. One stop shopping, great customer service and they know their products. They'll set you up with what you'll need and it'll actually work.

http://www.wakemakers.com/?gclid=CMWD14vF3akCFQvKKgodhRptXw

Perfect Pass.... I upgraded to StarGazer this spring. Love it. Be aware though that if you want to run RPM mode on slalom you will still have to calibrate for speed vrs. RPM. Operation is about the same with the menus for setting up favorites and speeds.

nmcjr
07-01-2011, 03:41 AM
Pull out the tanks. There's no advantage to keeping them in there, the piggyback method adds a little unneeded complexity and with just bags you have more storage, especially when empty and servicing the engine is much easier without the tanks in the way.

mccobmd
07-01-2011, 02:04 PM
I was out on my X1 this weekend I have the 750's in place of the hard tanks, that is a no brainer. I had the 750 and a Fat Brick in the back port side. If you are going to surf and not wakeboard with the ballast I would put an enzo sac on the port side. That gets you 1100. If you need it to be symmetrical for wakeboarding then 750's.

Jeff d
07-01-2011, 02:35 PM
There's no advantage to keeping them in there

There is one advantage. Resale. There are a lot of people out there (Myself not included) that would rather have it exactly like it came from the factory.

Other than that I'd opt to remove the tanks.

brucemac
07-01-2011, 02:58 PM
congrats! i'll look for you on samm. you'll have a blast with that boat!

slap some 750's in the back, pick up the integrated bow sac and don't look back.

brucemac
07-01-2011, 03:02 PM
hey also, just a recommendation. i'd have the trailer brakes, seals and actuator inspected. just for peace of mind. you may also want to have the engine alignment checked out if it's never been done before.

doug at eastsideservices.com does good work.

mccobmd
07-01-2011, 07:05 PM
There is one advantage. Resale. There are a lot of people out there (Myself not included) that would rather have it exactly like it came from the factory.

Other than that I'd opt to remove the tanks.

Good point. I kept mine in my storage unit along with the brackets. I doubt if in 20 years when I sell it anyone will be able to remember what came from the factory.