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captain planet
06-10-2011, 02:43 PM
I know political threads on this board usually have a short life due to the heated debates they cause. However, I want to do what I can to spread a message that needs to be heard by as many people as possible.

If you are like me, you are tired of what is going on in our government and in our country and we need to get back to the basics. We are in deep trouble folks, and we need to right the ship if we have any sense of responsibility for the next generation. We need to get someone in the White House that isn't going to go with the status quo and truly intends to change things. Therefore I'm starting this; "The Ron Paul Thread".

In this thread I will attempt to keep posting, on a fairly consistent basis, links to videos and news articles concerning Mr. Ron Paul and his message.

I'll start off with a couple of videos and will post a few more in a couple days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQB60-MT3Q&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rUn-aPvRSY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMmVwW8h4Ho

Enjoy everyone!

oxberger
06-10-2011, 03:43 PM
Good for you CP! I've been keeping up with your other thread and this is definately a step in the right direction, good choice to back as well IMHO. Formally, I don't side with either party and it generally comes down to the lesser of the evils when voting. I'm hoping Mr. Paul gets the party nomination because it will be the first time I don't regret voting. A Libertarian running under the GOP name and winning will be a game changer and I for one welcome it!

DemolitionMan
06-10-2011, 04:21 PM
I like Mr. Paul but right now I am leaning towards Herman Cain.

supturb89
06-13-2011, 03:17 PM
I know political threads on this board usually have a short life due to the heated debates they cause. However, I want to do what I can to spread a message that needs to be heard by as many people as possible.

If you are like me, you are tired of what is going on in our government and in our country and we need to get back to the basics. We are in deep trouble folks, and we need to right the ship if we have any sense of responsibility for the next generation. We need to get someone in the White House that isn't going to go with the status quo and truly intends to change things. Therefore I'm starting this; "The Ron Paul Thread".

In this thread I will attempt to keep posting, on a fairly consistent basis, links to videos and news articles concerning Mr. Ron Paul and his message.

I'll start off with a couple of videos and will post a few more in a couple days.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgQB60-MT3Q&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rUn-aPvRSY&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMmVwW8h4Ho

Enjoy everyone!

Good for you CP! I've been keeping up with your other thread and this is definately a step in the right direction, good choice to back as well IMHO. Formally, I don't side with either party and it generally comes down to the lesser of the evils when voting. I'm hoping Mr. Paul gets the party nomination because it will be the first time I don't regret voting. A Libertarian running under the GOP name and winning will be a game changer and I for one welcome it!

I like Mr. Paul but right now I am leaning towards Herman Cain.

Dr. Ron Paul

Forrest-X45
06-13-2011, 04:39 PM
I like Mr. Paul but right now I am leaning towards Herman Cain.

Herman would be a great choice if only he had more political experience. That will hold him back form being taken as a serious candidate. But look who is in the White House now, Mr. Experience himself. :-)

captain planet
06-13-2011, 04:40 PM
Dr. Ron Paul

My sincerest apologies, Dr. Ron Paul.

CruisinGA
06-13-2011, 06:14 PM
I like Mr. Paul but right now I am leaning towards Herman Cain.


Same here.

Been a long time radio listener of his and now a political supporter.

oxberger
06-13-2011, 07:56 PM
Sorry about the Mr. Paul, didn't realize because they don't play that up in the stuff I've read about him.

captain planet
06-14-2011, 10:18 AM
Same here.

Been a long time radio listener of his and now a political supporter.

That guy is a former federal reserve guy and thus is the last guy you should consider based on that alone.

I missed the debate last night, however reading an article about it this morning there are exactly 4 sentences regarding Dr. Ron Paul. Sadly, Palin who isn't even running yet, got more virtural ink in the article than Ron Paul did. Looks like this is going to be a long up hill battle to get the message out.

I will update with links today.

Have a good day.

captain planet
06-14-2011, 10:23 AM
Sorry about the Mr. Paul, didn't realize because they don't play that up in the stuff I've read about him.

Anything the media can do to minimalize Dr. Ron Paul, they will do. Like in 2008 when fox "news" cut out Ron Paul's answers to questions when they reaired the debate. Just like you don't hear Herman Cain used to work for the federal reserve, they don't want you to know that.

DemolitionMan
06-14-2011, 10:38 AM
Herman would be a great choice if only he had more political experience. That will hold him back form being taken as a serious candidate. But look who is in the White House now, Mr. Experience himself. :-)

At least Herman has ran a business unlike our current community organizer.

shepherd
06-14-2011, 10:44 AM
Anything the media can do to minimalize Dr. Ron Paul, they will do. Like in 2008 when fox "news" cut out Ron Paul's answers to questions when they reaired the debate. Just like you don't hear Herman Cain used to work for the federal reserve, they don't want you to know that.

I noticed that on fox "news" this morning when they were covering the debate. They didn't even mention Paul and only showed one shot of him and he wasn't even talking then. They did spend a lot of time showing Gingrich -- boob.

shepherd
06-14-2011, 10:44 AM
If you were president, would you hire a muslim?

DemolitionMan
06-14-2011, 10:46 AM
I noticed that on fox "news" this morning when they were covering the debate. They didn't even mention Paul and only showed one shot of him and he wasn't even talking then. They did spend a lot of time showing Gingrich -- boob.

Gingrich had his chance but he couldn't keep it in his pants.

wrobins1
06-14-2011, 10:52 AM
I have to agree with everyone... Dr. Ron Paul is my number two guy but Herman Cain is my favorite partly because he does not have the political experience. He was on Neal Bortz radio show yesterday before the debate talking about the fact that he had no political experience and that he was going to treat the presidency as if he was the CEO of the country. If this logical approach is adopted by the white house imagine the possibilities furthermore it should be mentioned that I think Herman has a better chance of beating Obama and that is what I REALLY WANT TO SEE. As far as the debate went last night I think Dr. Ron Paul won it in my eyes. His answers were more concise, easier to follow, more logical, and most of all more to the point than some of his counterparts you took it as an opportunity to spout their predetermined rhetoric. He also received a lot more time than Herman Cain who apparently nailed the first debate in SC which I missed.

aquaman
06-14-2011, 10:53 AM
Gingrich is an intellectual boob that is un-electable. But the media and liberals will try to use him as representative of the Republican Party.

Viable conservative candidates will be smeared and ignored......so they get NO media coverage or public exposure.

It worked for the liberals in the last election........WHO really thought McCain was the best conservative candidate??

Ron Paul has extremely good ideas, principles and solutions.

However, the average voter cannot understand him or his ideas. : /

shepherd
06-14-2011, 11:06 AM
Politician vs. CEO for president? I'd expect a politician to be more successful. A CEO is used to running things his own way and having his orders followed without question. A president has to be able to compromise and cooperate with Congress to get important legislation passed. While the president does have a lot of unilateral authority in running the executive agencies (e.g., NLRB -- been following the Boeing case?), even those agencies have to operate within the limits placed on them by Congress.

I'd rather vote for a politician who shares the same political viewpoints as me (fiscal conservative, libertarian), AND will also have the ability to work with Congress, dems and reps.

wrobins1
06-14-2011, 11:27 AM
Politician vs. CEO for president? I'd expect a politician to be more successful. A CEO is used to running things his own way and having his orders followed without question. A president has to be able to compromise and cooperate with Congress to get important legislation passed. While the president does have a lot of unilateral authority in running the executive agencies (e.g., NLRB -- been following the Boeing case?), even those agencies have to operate within the limits placed on them by Congress.

I'd rather vote for a politician who shares the same political viewpoints as me (fiscal conservative, libertarian), AND will also have the ability to work with Congress, dems and reps.

Great points but I would argue that a CEO that has to deal with a board of directors has less weight in the negotiations than a president and has to appeal more to logical progressions than the mandates and orders you have suggested because they are forced to negotiation directly with their bosses. Furthermore politicians have a cultivated narcissism that would not be tolerated in the corporate world.

captain planet
06-14-2011, 11:33 AM
I noticed that on fox "news" this morning when they were covering the debate. They didn't even mention Paul and only showed one shot of him and he wasn't even talking then. They did spend a lot of time showing Gingrich -- boob.

Precisely the reason for this thread. It is important enough to me to do this and to help promote his ideas. I know this is a small audience but who knows what may happen.

shepherd
06-14-2011, 12:59 PM
Great points but I would argue that a CEO that has to deal with a board of directors has less weight in the negotiations than a president and has to appeal more to logical progressions than the mandates and orders you have suggested because they are forced to negotiation directly with their bosses. Furthermore politicians have a cultivated narcissism that would not be tolerated in the corporate world.

Right. I didn't think about the CEO/BOD relationship as similar to POTUS/Congress, but I guess there would be similarities.

captain planet
06-14-2011, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obOLzwSn6sY

From the CNN debate last night.

Jorski
06-14-2011, 02:16 PM
Gingrich is an intellectual boob that is un-electable. But the media and liberals will try to use him as representative of the Republican Party.

Hmmm...I thought that Palin had that job??????;)

captain planet
06-27-2011, 01:59 PM
Even though the CNN debate was a horrible format (imagine the intellect that went into not having a time limit for a group of politicians at a debate!) here is a link that has all of Dr. Ron Paul's answers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rePrD-6nNdE

captain planet
06-27-2011, 03:09 PM
I found this one to be a bit chilling. Kind of like a modern day Nostradamus that nobody wants to listen to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ&feature=related

captain planet
06-27-2011, 06:29 PM
You got 45 minutes? Here is a 4 part in depth interview with Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvlEGTSVoiM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8Ao1DCmobo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v8L6NGIxaU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heeR6OTgI-w


That should keep you busy for a couple days.

Enjoy,
Captain Planet ;)

captain planet
07-14-2011, 02:19 PM
Well, I have been on vacation for a while so I haven't updated this thread. I have been too busy at the lake and enjoying my boat, but some things are too important to not continue.

Here are a couple more links for the only real choice for President this election.

Enjoy,
Captain Planet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dri0GwbBoIk



Take Ben to the woodshed Paul!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3TltMNbgGQ

I'm not for entitlements....but you have to listen to the point Dr. Ron Paul makes at 2:22.
And also at 4:22. Bens response....Uh, ummm, uh, well.....

What a schmuck!

Dr. Ron Paul....YOU ARE the man!

captain planet
07-14-2011, 02:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTC2LphVN8U&NR=1

captain planet
07-14-2011, 02:43 PM
This one isn't actually Ron Paul, however I found it to be interesting and enlightening.

Enjoy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudRxDqQAhk&NR=1

captain planet
07-14-2011, 02:54 PM
A history lesson.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evYwPJUY_cc&feature=related

captain planet
07-14-2011, 03:02 PM
I wasn't going to post anymore today because I don't want to dilute this thread........but I just can't let this one go. What a gem mitt romney is. "let the laywers figure it out"? REALLY mitt?

I think this is as animated as I have ever seen Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3BbIPbLSRw&NR=1



OK, I'm done today I promise. :rolleyes:

captain planet
07-21-2011, 05:06 PM
THE Dr. Ron Paul in action yesterday. Is there a reason the rest of our government doesn't listen to him?

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-07-19/ron-paul-to-congress-if-debt-is-the-problem-why-do-you-want-more-of-it/

click on the video to watch.

captain planet
07-25-2011, 01:36 PM
Here is a recent interview on PBS with THE Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008dotcom#p/a/u/2/xQNpXm7h7aA

captain planet
07-25-2011, 01:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008dotcom#p/a/u/0/VLu7XMqHTjs

Here he is on faux news business channel.

captain planet
07-27-2011, 01:50 PM
The momentum is mounting early on. Good to see.

http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008dotcom#p/a/f/1/Mew81eqquEM

captain planet
07-27-2011, 02:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/user/RonPaul2008dotcom#p/f/4/QGXbKsFH_sI

Is there a reason this anchor tries to debate Ron Paul here? She is clearly out of her league in this discussion considering how many years Ron Paul has studied monetary policy.

oxberger
07-27-2011, 04:37 PM
The best canidate there is:
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/07/22/ron-paul-competitive-against-obama-in-new-poll/

zed
07-28-2011, 08:51 PM
Amen!! Ron paul all the way..

what about that New Mexico GOv, what i have heard I like!


that link is great.. Dr. Paul always brings you back to reality.. I hate how he is done with office whether he is our next pres or not.. 4 8 years is not long enough and he is a powerfull voice of liberty that we will be losing.. I pray Rand Paul Picks up where his father left off.

captain planet
07-29-2011, 01:09 PM
Glad to see this thread is getting read.:)

oxberger
07-29-2011, 01:55 PM
Read it everytime there's a post. A friend sent me this link:
http://www.personalliberty.com/conservative-politics/government/obama-following-in-hitlers-footsteps/?eiid=&rmid=2011_07_26_PLA_%5BP11509999%5D&rrid=394584188
We need to get him out of there and get the good Dr. steering this country right again.

captain planet
08-01-2011, 12:57 PM
The Apple didn't fall very far. Not Ron, but a little bit of Ron.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWPpmlcgnpo&feature=feedf

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2vcOADs9qc&NR=1


I'll keep it to just THE Dr. Ron Paul from here on out, but I found this one to be interesting.

captain planet
08-01-2011, 01:07 PM
Dr. Ron Pauls weekly update.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJztRiAu5os&feature=feedu

I have to say, after listening to this update, it is refreshing to find a politician that will tell you the truth about what is going on. I can't think of any other politicians (except Rand Paul) who have been interviewed about this that are leveling with the public.

captain planet
08-01-2011, 01:09 PM
*****IMPORTANT, PLEASE READ*******


If you live in a closed /semi closed primary state , you MUST register as a Republican in order to vote Ron Paul in the crucial primary election . I suspect RP has a lot of Dem supporters who may be disappointed when they go to the polls if they do not change party affiliations . The closed /SEMI CLOSED states are : AZ, CO, CT,DEL,FL,MA,MD,HI,PA,NY,NE,SD ,UT,WV,KY,LA,OK,OR.

Let's do our part - don;t let him lose the nomiantion.

oxberger
08-03-2011, 10:12 AM
Found this today:
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-sounds-alarm-on-disturbing-super-congress/
Scary times. I'm glad he tried to defeat this bill, unfortunately the good Dr. couldn't sway the others. People need to start paying attention.

captain planet
08-03-2011, 11:36 AM
Found this today:
http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-sounds-alarm-on-disturbing-super-congress/
Scary times. I'm glad he tried to defeat this bill, unfortunately the good Dr. couldn't sway the others. People need to start paying attention.

Ox, great contribution to this thread, that is a good video to watch for everybody to get a feel for what is going on in washington.

Here is a press release by THE Dr. Ron Paul on the piece of junk that our leaders turned out in the late hours regarding the debt ceiling.

August 1, 2011

ALEXANDRIA, Virginia - Today, 2012 Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul issued a statement outlining his opposition to the debt ceiling deal struck between the White House and Congress. See statement below.

"While it is good to see serious debate about our debt crisis, I cannot support the reported deal on raising the nation's debt ceiling. I have never voted to raise the debt ceiling, and I never will.

"This deal will reportedly cut spending by only slightly over $900 billion over 10 years. But we will have a $1.6 trillion deficit after this year alone, meaning those meager cuts will do nothing to solve our unsustainable spending problem.

"In fact, this bill will never balance the budget. Instead, it will add untold trillions of dollars to our deficit. This also assumes the cuts are real cuts and not the same old Washington smoke and mirrors game of spending less than originally projected so you can claim the difference as a ‘cut.'

"The plan also calls for the formation of a deficit commission, which will accomplish nothing outside of providing Congress and the White House with another way to abdicate responsibility.

"In my many years of public service, there have been commissions on everything from Social Security to energy policy, yet not one solution has been produced out of these commissions.

"By denying members the ability to offer amendments and only allowing an up-or-down vote that will take place in the hectic time between Thanksgiving and Christmas, this Commission essentially disenfranchises the vast majority of members from meaningfully participating in the debate over reducing spending and balancing the budget.

"Furthermore, despite the claims of the bill's proponents, there is nothing to stop the commission from recommending tax increases.

"One of the reasons why I humbly suggest that I am the most qualified Presidential candidate is my experience to see and understand the long track record of failure, disappointments, and bad recommendations made by such commissions.

"Times like these require statesmanship and steady leadership, which I and the grassroots activists who have joined my campaign believe I am uniquely qualified to provide.

"What should bother Americans most is that under cover of this debt ceiling circus, we learned from a recent GAO one-time, limited audit that the Federal Reserve secretly pumped $16 trillion into American and foreign banks over three years. All of the Fed's fat cat cronies were taken care of at the expense of the American public.

"To put that into perspective, our entire national debt is $14.5 trillion, and our annual deficit will be about $1.6 trillion, meaning the Federal Reserve created and appropriated more than our entire national debt to banks around the world in a few short years. We have been fighting in Congress these past few weeks over raising our debt ceiling by $2 trillion, an amount the Fed secretly gave away to just one big bank.

"For decades, politicians have promised future restraint in exchange for hikes in the debt limit. We are always told that we must act immediately to avoid a crisis. But time and time again, politicians reveal themselves to be untrustworthy, and we soon find ourselves in a crisis being led by the same folks who wish only to maintain the status quo.

"I believe in the great American traditions of free markets, sound money, and personal Liberty. But we are moving far away from what made us the greatest nation in human history. We must cut spending and balance our budget now, before it is too late.

"Let me be clear. The cuts we must make will not be easy, and there will be difficult times in the short run. But I have the greatest confidence that if we come together as a People, work hard, and do the right things, our country will be back on track in no time and on its way to unprecedented prosperity. But, if we continue to print money and pyramid debt, we will destroy ourselves and lose the promise of America forever.

"These difficult times require a President willing to stand against runaway spending. If elected, I will veto any spending bill that contributes to an unbalanced budget, and I will balance the budget in the first year of my term. I will not allow the Federal Reserve to destroy the value of our money by shoveling dollars into the pockets of its banker friends.

"I remain committed to working on behalf of the American people to drastically reduce spending and implement fundamental changes that will reform government and restore our nation's prosperity."

oxberger
08-03-2011, 03:22 PM
I read that release earlier today. Good stuff you never see in the mainstream unfortunately. I don't think people realize how quickly the wool is being pulled over their eyes. I have a friend whose wife is from Cuba, and she and her family don't understand why there isn't a huge uproar going on about this. She said what is happening to America now is how Cuba eventually became a dictatorship... and don't get me started on the "Super Congress" stuff.:mad:

captain planet
08-04-2011, 01:53 PM
More truth and reality from the good doctor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajBJ6hip51g&feature=feedu

captain planet
08-09-2011, 02:21 PM
Weekly update from THE Dr.!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18QjfdhJEM4&NR=1

captain planet
08-11-2011, 06:13 PM
Tonight THE Dr. Ron Paul will be in the Republican debate in Iowa. I think it is a 9:00, but I'm not certain.

Anyway, it will be interesting to see how different THE Dr. is from the rest of the candidates. I hope you watch, and I hope you see how right Dr. Ron Paul is for our country right now.

Have a good evening,
Captain Planet

Sullivan
08-12-2011, 01:20 AM
I'd say Ron cleaned house tonight on the debate. I like Herman Cain too.

captain planet
08-12-2011, 12:00 PM
I missed the debate last night.......so I will be watching it here shortly. However my boss told me about THE Dr. Ron Paul schooling santorum last night and I couldn't help but look it up and share it with you. I LOVE when THE Dr. starts handing out history lessons to these tools on national TV.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ogseq-xh9ks

captain planet
08-12-2011, 01:48 PM
Here are THE Dr. Ron Pauls answers from last nights debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMsecpsDnA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btg0Qdsf40o&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_82023

You can go to youtube and find the entire debate on there. There is a link to the whole thing or it is broken up into numerous parts. Here is the entire debate link. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDSs_XFmacc

I don't know why it is a little dark but...it is probably better to keep all of them in the dark (except THE Dr. of course).

Enjoy, and thank you for watching.

trickskier
08-13-2011, 08:36 AM
After months of laying the groundwork, the first test of the Republican presidential candidates' viability is finally here.

Saturday's Iowa Straw Poll marks the first time Republican voters weigh in on the GOP presidential field with ballots and comes just as Gov. Rick Perry of Texas was to enter the campaign during a visit to another early nominating state.

The nonbinding results in Ames, Iowa, were likely to foreshadow the coming months here in the leadoff state.

"The Iowa Straw Poll is the first measurable proving ground for our Republican candidates for president," Republican Party of Iowa Chairman Matt Strawn said.

After that, just four months remain before the leadoff Iowa caucuses.

Mitt Romney leads national polls and many states' surveys for the chance to challenge President Barack Obama next fall. But there is no shortage of rivals looking to emerge as the top alternative to the former Massachusetts governor, who lost the GOP nomination in 2008.

The candidates with the most to lose were Minnesotans who were competing to fill the role of a Romney alternative: Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Rep. Michele Bachmann. The pair clashed during Thursday's debate in Ames: Bachmann said Pawlenty "sounds a lot like Barack Obama if you ask me"; Pawlenty said his rival posts "a record of misstating and making false statements."

Pawlenty, who has been languishing in early Iowa polls, is out to prove he's a strong player in the GOP race with a victory, while Bachmann hopes to build on momentum she's enjoyed since entering the race this summer.

"For some people, this is make or break," tea party activist Ryan Rhodes said.

Nine candidates are on the ballot in voting that runs for six hours during the daylong political festival on the campus of Iowa State University that doubles as a fundraiser for the Iowa GOP.

They include Romney, who won the straw poll four years ago but isn't actively competing this time, and former Utah Gov. John Huntsman, who has been bypassing Iowa almost entirely in his hunt for the nomination. Neither was scheduled to be in the state; both spent Friday in New Hampshire.

Perry and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — who made a splash Friday when she visited the state fair — aren't on the ballot, but their supporters are waging write-in campaigns that could outpace candidates who have spent months trying to line up supporters to participate.

Others on the list, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and businessman Herman Cain, hope for surprise showings.

"Part of it is whether the message resonates, but the bottom line is you better be pretty well organized," Iowa Christian Alliance head Steve Scheffler said.

On the Iowa State campus, a circus-like atmosphere was in the making, with campaigns putting up giant tents for live music and tangy barbecue to court activists. Between the entertainers, candidates had one last shot to pitch for votes.

Republicans wouldn't speculate how many people will spend $30 each to attend the event, but turnout in past has ranged from 14,000 to 23,000.

The straw poll has a mixed record of predicting the outcome of the precinct caucuses.

In the last election, Romney won the straw poll, but the big news was the surprising second-place showing of Mike Huckabee. Huckabee won the Iowa caucuses, but dropped from the race soon after. John McCain, who eventually won the nomination, didn't compete in the straw poll and finished in 10th place.

Poor showings usually force some candidates — mostly those who are not well-known and are struggling to raise money — to abandon their bids, and that could happen this year, too.

"What it is, is a winnowing process and that might happen to Pawlenty if he doesn't do well," said Republican strategist Rich Galen. "It sort of serves as a filter to clean out the candidates who probably shouldn't be there in the first place."

Jim@BAWS
08-13-2011, 02:28 PM
Newt is the SMARTEST of them ALL...probably right that he will not get the nomination. To bad..he really knows his stuff. Herman Kain...I wish the would win it... I really do. The US put the Obama in there. We can put Kain in there. Ron Paul...very interesting to say the least. He just seems out there like that goofball Kusinich (sp). I know he is probably more centrist and libertarian...just can't seem to wrap my arms around him. If Palin does not run it will be interesting to see you she gets behind. Probably the Govnr of Texas

Jim@BAWS

captain planet
08-15-2011, 01:37 PM
After months of laying the groundwork, the first test of the Republican presidential candidates' viability is finally here.

Saturday's Iowa Straw Poll marks the first time Republican voters weigh in on the GOP presidential field with ballots and comes just as Gov. Rick Perry of Texas was to enter the campaign during a visit to another early nominating state.

The nonbinding results in Ames, Iowa, were likely to foreshadow the coming months here in the leadoff state.

"The Iowa Straw Poll is the first measurable proving ground for our Republican candidates for president," Republican Party of Iowa Chairman Matt Strawn said.

After that, just four months remain before the leadoff Iowa caucuses.

Mitt Romney leads national polls and many states' surveys for the chance to challenge President Barack Obama next fall. But there is no shortage of rivals looking to emerge as the top alternative to the former Massachusetts governor, who lost the GOP nomination in 2008.

The candidates with the most to lose were Minnesotans who were competing to fill the role of a Romney alternative: Gov. Tim Pawlenty and Rep. Michele Bachmann. The pair clashed during Thursday's debate in Ames: Bachmann said Pawlenty "sounds a lot like Barack Obama if you ask me"; Pawlenty said his rival posts "a record of misstating and making false statements."

Pawlenty, who has been languishing in early Iowa polls, is out to prove he's a strong player in the GOP race with a victory, while Bachmann hopes to build on momentum she's enjoyed since entering the race this summer.

"For some people, this is make or break," tea party activist Ryan Rhodes said.

Nine candidates are on the ballot in voting that runs for six hours during the daylong political festival on the campus of Iowa State University that doubles as a fundraiser for the Iowa GOP.

They include Romney, who won the straw poll four years ago but isn't actively competing this time, and former Utah Gov. John Huntsman, who has been bypassing Iowa almost entirely in his hunt for the nomination. Neither was scheduled to be in the state; both spent Friday in New Hampshire.

Perry and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin — who made a splash Friday when she visited the state fair — aren't on the ballot, but their supporters are waging write-in campaigns that could outpace candidates who have spent months trying to line up supporters to participate.

Others on the list, including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich of Georgia, Texas Rep. Ron Paul, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and businessman Herman Cain, hope for surprise showings.

"Part of it is whether the message resonates, but the bottom line is you better be pretty well organized," Iowa Christian Alliance head Steve Scheffler said.

On the Iowa State campus, a circus-like atmosphere was in the making, with campaigns putting up giant tents for live music and tangy barbecue to court activists. Between the entertainers, candidates had one last shot to pitch for votes.

Republicans wouldn't speculate how many people will spend $30 each to attend the event, but turnout in past has ranged from 14,000 to 23,000.

The straw poll has a mixed record of predicting the outcome of the precinct caucuses.

In the last election, Romney won the straw poll, but the big news was the surprising second-place showing of Mike Huckabee. Huckabee won the Iowa caucuses, but dropped from the race soon after. John McCain, who eventually won the nomination, didn't compete in the straw poll and finished in 10th place.

Poor showings usually force some candidates — mostly those who are not well-known and are struggling to raise money — to abandon their bids, and that could happen this year, too.

"What it is, is a winnowing process and that might happen to Pawlenty if he doesn't do well," said Republican strategist Rich Galen. "It sort of serves as a filter to clean out the candidates who probably shouldn't be there in the first place."

People don't really have to pay to attend, the candidates pay for their entrance in return for their vote in the straw poll.

captain planet
08-15-2011, 01:47 PM
Well, since the national corporate owned/run media seems to not want you to know, THE Dr. Ron Paul was second in the Iowa straw poll not far behind Bachman. It would appear his message is resonating with the people a little more than the media wants you to know.

_fng_
08-15-2011, 02:31 PM
Well, since the national corporate owned/run media seems to not want you to know, THE Dr. Ron Paul was second in the Iowa straw poll not far behind Bachman. It would appear his message is resonating with the people a little more than the media wants you to know.

I was also surprised at the lack of mention Dr. Paul was getting at a close-second. Perry was getting more publicity getting 4% (although it was a write-in and just announced his candidacy recently).

oxberger
08-15-2011, 04:50 PM
The MSM sucks when it comes to the good Dr. CNN (I believe Fox has too) has publicly come out and said that Ron Paul is of no concern and will not win and they won't be reporting on him.

captain planet
08-15-2011, 05:23 PM
The MSM sucks when it comes to the good Dr. CNN (I believe Fox has too) has publicly come out and said that Ron Paul is of no concern and will not win and they won't be reporting on him.

Alas, it will not be a deterrent to I, Captain Planet, that the MSM will not acknowledge him. I believe many Americans have come to realize the MSM is flawed and the search is on for real news.

I will share this, and article which was handed to me by my boss today regarding this omission of the good Dr. in the news.

http://lewrockwell.com/kwiatkowski/kwiatkowski272.html

I might add, I am about 1/3 the way through "Liberty Defined" by Ron Paul. It is an eye opener and highly recommended reading.

Have a good day and keep ya toes up!

captain planet
08-16-2011, 02:03 PM
Well, I know this is an up-hill battle and there are going to be setbacks. Here is one for you, how about the media just ignore Ron Paul? Well, that is what they are doing. I saw this last night on The Daily Show and I thought I would share with you. You only have to watch the first segment to see how far this is going.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/full-episodes/mon-august-15-2011-ali-velshi

I especially like the guy from CNN that says to his field reporter, "Don't worry about video of Ron Paul, but if you get video of palin or perry send it in!"

Uh, I WILL be writing a letter or making a phone call over that one.

Ron Grover
08-16-2011, 02:36 PM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

captain planet
08-16-2011, 05:25 PM
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/mon-august-15-2011/indecision-2012---corn-polled-edition---ron-paul---the-top-tier

Great link, thanks! :)

Jim@BAWS
08-16-2011, 07:06 PM
For all to ENJOY!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/obama_at_bat.html

SkiDog
08-16-2011, 10:51 PM
For all to ENJOY!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/obama_at_bat.html

:uglyhamme:uglyhamme:uglyhamme

captain planet
08-17-2011, 10:06 AM
For all to ENJOY!!!

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/obama_at_bat.html

Creative and funny.

At risk of sounding like a dictator if we can limit the topic of posts on this thread to Dr. Ron Paul that would be great. My goal of this thread is to inform folks about a man that is much needed by our country right now. I want to eliminate this thread from getting watered down with other subjects.

Thanks,
Captain Planet

captain planet
08-19-2011, 02:32 PM
The link with the broadband connection between Piers Morgan and THE Dr. Ron Paul isn't the greatest, however is wirth posting.

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-15/ron-paul-the-most-untalked-about-top-tier-presidential-candidate/

captain planet
08-19-2011, 02:52 PM
With Napolitano.......

http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-16/ron-paul-2012-from-underdog-to-serious-challenger/

captain planet
08-19-2011, 03:00 PM
http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-16/ron-paul-im-trying-to-change-the-course-of-history/

THE good Dr. on faux news.

captain planet
08-19-2011, 05:29 PM
coming soon to a tv set near you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pChzOaIeyxY&feature=youtu.be

captain planet
08-22-2011, 06:10 PM
Local lone star state news cast with a story on Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcE8PTid6qU

captain planet
08-23-2011, 02:12 PM
http://www.ronpaul.com/2011-08-18/ron-paul-bring-the-troops-home-now/

Preach on Dr.!

Double D
08-23-2011, 02:33 PM
Every time I see the name Ron Paul in the news I think of this thread.....

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0823/Has-Ron-Paul-become-electable

captain planet
08-23-2011, 03:22 PM
Every time I see the name Ron Paul in the news I think of this thread.....

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/The-Vote/2011/0823/Has-Ron-Paul-become-electable

You've actually seen his name in the news? :rolleyes::confused:

captain planet
08-29-2011, 01:53 PM
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/2011/08/28/ron-paul-on-fox-news-sunday/

The Dr. Ron Paul with Chris Wallace on Sunday.

oxberger
08-29-2011, 04:29 PM
I saw that. I don't know if you saw the interview with the head of FEMA before the Dr.'s interview, but they asked the head of FEMA about the budget. Ticked me off, but then when the Dr. was interviewed he just schooled Wallace. I like the dig the Dr. made regarding FEMA (and the country for that matter) being broke. I loved when he said what do we need FEMA for, we have our National Guard in foreign countries when they should be here protecting our country and helping during natural disasters. Priceless.

captain planet
08-30-2011, 09:18 PM
I saw that. I don't know if you saw the interview with the head of FEMA before the Dr.'s interview, but they asked the head of FEMA about the budget. Ticked me off, but then when the Dr. was interviewed he just schooled Wallace. I like the dig the Dr. made regarding FEMA (and the country for that matter) being broke. I loved when he said what do we need FEMA for, we have our National Guard in foreign countries when they should be here protecting our country and helping during natural disasters. Priceless.

I agree, this message is finally resonating.

I have to say, there isn't ANYBODY that has any message and stance like Dr. Ron Paul, not even close. The momentum is building, I can feel it. My worry is, what is next? They tried to ignore him, that only lasted for a few days until it got pointed out and brought to light. What will be the next tactic? The powers that be are not iterested in his message and they will fight to silence him; the question is, how will they do it?

oxberger
08-31-2011, 03:35 PM
Sadly enough what the MSM is doing now is some reporting on Dr. Paul, but now when they do it only a partial quote is given or the video is edited to make him sound like he's a quack. I saw an article a few days ago that ticked me off (once again about the good Dr.'s views on FEMA). It was an edited video of Dr. Paul explaining that he would do away with FEMA and there is no reason for them. He went on to say how back in the 1900's, 1920 and 1930's, an 1950's there was no FEMA and the states took care of themselves. You should have seen the comments by the liberals. They called him a quack, his ideas are old and tired because he mentioned the years, and they called him a liar because when hurricane Ike I believe went through Texas he took money from FEMA to help rebuild Galveston. I don't know if that's true or not. I didn't verify. I did have to go on and comment and let them know, but the liberals would have no part of it and wouldn't check out the stats for themselves. I don't know how some people can call themselves educated with out learning anything.

captain planet
09-02-2011, 02:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL9BJpRtlFs&feature=feedu

Latest interview of THE Dr. Ron Paul.

oxberger
09-07-2011, 11:50 AM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinion/jack-kerwick/8847-ron-paul-versus-the-enemies-of-reason

oxberger
09-07-2011, 11:51 AM
Be sure to watch the Republican debates tonight so you can see Dr. Paul school these fools!

captain planet
09-07-2011, 01:28 PM
http://www.ronpaul2012.com/media/

Ron Paul on Freedom Watch 9/6/11.

captain planet
09-07-2011, 01:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxPoURzProE&feature=feedu

The latest campaign commercial for THE Dr. Ron Paul.

captain planet
09-07-2011, 02:05 PM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/opinion/jack-kerwick/8847-ron-paul-versus-the-enemies-of-reason

Nice post OX!

captain planet
09-07-2011, 02:12 PM
Be sure to watch the Republican debates tonight so you can see Dr. Paul school these fools!

Yes, I would like to see THE Dr. Ron Paul give another history lesson like the one he gave to santorum last debate. Can you imagine how foolish santorum must have felt at that moment when Dr. Paul gave him a history lesson in front of the entire country and made him look like a fool? Priceless moment for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXBevBcwHU

Just to revisit this moment again.....I could watch this over and over and over and over..... :D8p........sit down young man, here is how it is!

oxberger
09-08-2011, 09:20 AM
Yes, I would like to see THE Dr. Ron Paul give another history lesson like the one he gave to santorum last debate. Can you imagine how foolish santorum must have felt at that moment when Dr. Paul gave him a history lesson in front of the entire country and made him look like a fool? Priceless moment for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAXBevBcwHU

Just to revisit this moment again.....I could watch this over and over and over and over..... :D8p........sit down young man, here is how it is!

Thank you sir! Here's a good spin on the debate last night:
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/9088
He definately schooled them! I do have to admit though, this was probably the worst he's looked. With that said, he was STILL the clear winner (and with only 4 questions that he was asked).

captain planet
09-09-2011, 09:48 AM
Thank you sir! Here's a good spin on the debate last night:
http://www.huntingtonnews.net/9088
He definately schooled them! I do have to admit though, this was probably the worst he's looked. With that said, he was STILL the clear winner (and with only 4 questions that he was asked).

I haven't watched it yet, but plan to today at lunch. This was billed as the "romney vs. parry (perry :D) debate. parry is a scary guy......very scary. :(

I'll find some videos from the debate to post when I get a chance.

captain planet
09-23-2011, 09:29 PM
From the Youtube debate on September 22nd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsrxdF5byQM

You the MAN, RON!

captain planet
09-23-2011, 09:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dAVoYciURoU&NR=1

Latest commercial.

captain planet
09-23-2011, 09:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTF7S2I7k4s

Black THIS out.

I will be a proud participant!!!

DemolitionMan
09-23-2011, 09:40 PM
From the Youtube debate on September 22nd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsrxdF5byQM

You the MAN, RON!

I like what I hear.

captain planet
09-23-2011, 09:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX6KNPYrP_s&feature=related

Here is an old interview....however still a GREAT message.

captain planet
09-23-2011, 09:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1JF9_gkryQ

8:45...."gee congressman Paul, you ducked me the last time I tried to get you for an interview."

Gosh, I wonder why sean. Couldn't be you are a shill for the establishment, could it?

14:34...."come back and spend some more time with us." Does he really want to get schooled by the Dr. again?

Boy, they really tried hard to pin him on hand selected comments from previous debates and try to make him look bad. Nice try....but THE Dr. was IN THE HOUSE!

captain planet
09-23-2011, 10:22 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnkQtDh3ngI&NR=1

Here is a radio interview from Tuesday night. It is a good candid look at THE Dr. Ron Paul.

captain planet
09-23-2011, 10:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvibsyKLDSA

Black THIS out!

captain planet
09-23-2011, 11:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hCpuUB79JI&feature=related

Alright....enough for tonight. I have been behind lately and felt the need to get caught up.

mdskier
09-26-2011, 06:47 PM
I am no fan of this administration, but just because it's on the internet, does not make it true. Funny how this kind of thing stays alive on the internet.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/ballot/athenian.asp

captain planet
09-27-2011, 10:27 PM
At risk of sounding like a dictator if we can limit the topic of posts on this thread to Dr. Ron Paul that would be great. My goal of this thread is to inform folks about a man that is much needed by our country right now. I want to eliminate this thread from getting watered down with other subjects.

Thanks,
Captain Planet

DemolitionMan
09-27-2011, 10:47 PM
At risk of sounding like a dictator if we can limit the topic of posts on this thread to Dr. Ron Paul that would be great. My goal of this thread is to inform folks about a man that is much needed by our country right now. I want to eliminate this thread from getting watered down with other subjects.

Thanks,
Captain Planet

Sorry for the threadjack Matt.

captain planet
09-28-2011, 12:22 PM
Sorry for the threadjack Matt.

No worries. I found something on Youtube about romney that was just typical of him and almost posted it on here.....then I self-censored myself and omitted it because this thread is all about THE Dr. Ron Paul!

SkiDog
10-03-2011, 02:49 PM
I cannot believe Ron Paul took this viewpoint!

The Obama administration has been criticized by civil liberties groups and others, including Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, for authorizing the killing of al-Awlaki. These critics argue that, as an American, al-Awlaki had a right to due process.

This is WAR, I guess we should spared Bin Ladens life and given him a trial too!:mad:

captain planet
10-11-2011, 03:16 PM
I cannot believe Ron Paul took this viewpoint!

The Obama administration has been criticized by civil liberties groups and others, including Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul, for authorizing the killing of al-Awlaki. These critics argue that, as an American, al-Awlaki had a right to due process.

This is WAR, I guess we should spared Bin Ladens life and given him a trial too!:mad:

It's funny you should mention that....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_uy29aFzCU

I had the same reaction to this issue, but if you look into it you can see clearly that due process is a must in a free society. As I type this, you and I can be assassinated by our government if they declare you an 'enemy combatant'. Well, who gets to decide who an enemy combatant is? Am I an enemy combatant because I despise basically every move our government has made over the last decade? Would all those people protesting across our country be considered enemy combatants? What is the definition? There is a lot of power to be yielded here. Due process is for your protection, and right now it basically does not exist because of executive orders, another strike against the constitution.

If someone is accused of something, they deserve due process. It is a foundation of our liberties and is essential for our freedoms.

I highly recommend you read Dr. Ron Pauls book, "Liberty Defined". It is an eye opener for subjects like this one.

CantRepeat
10-11-2011, 03:30 PM
It's funny you should mention that....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_uy29aFzCU

I had the same reaction to this issue, but if you look into it you can see clearly that due process is a must in a free society. As I type this, you and I can be assassinated by our government if they declare you an 'enemy combatant'. Well, who gets to decide who an enemy combatant is? Am I an enemy combatant because I despise basically every move our government has made over the last decade? Would all those people protesting across our country be considered enemy combatants? What is the definition? There is a lot of power to be yielded here. Due process is for your protection, and right now it basically does not exist because of executive orders, another strike against the constitution.

If someone is accused of something, they deserve due process. It is a foundation of our liberties and is essential for our freedoms.

I highly recommend you read Dr. Ron Pauls book, "Liberty Defined". It is an eye opener for subjects like this one.

An enemy combatant because you despise the government? No.

An enemy combatant because you plan, train, arm, and fund terrorist through both physical means and openly supporting their cause to kill Americans? Yes.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

He was a domestic enemy!! Kill the terrorist!

captain planet
10-11-2011, 03:53 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8ECtPUDW64

captain planet
10-11-2011, 03:54 PM
An enemy combatant because you despise the government? No.

An enemy combatant because you plan, train, arm, and fund terrorist through both physical means and openly supporting their cause to kill Americans? Yes.

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

He was a domestic enemy!! Kill the terrorist!

After due process, which protects all of us, that is fine.

aquaman
10-11-2011, 04:01 PM
After due process, which protects all of us, that is fine.

there is no due process for persons who commit acts of war or terrorism against the United States.

ron paul got confused in theory on this one. :confused:

captain planet
10-11-2011, 04:01 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5PltEomaBQ

captain planet
10-11-2011, 04:04 PM
there is no due process for persons who commit acts of war or terrorism against the United States.

ron paul got confused in theory on this one. :confused:

I disagree. Tim McVeigh (spelling?) by your definition was a terrorist, yet was given due process and was executed. Why was this OK? Because he wasn't a muslim? You have to look at it as to how the Constitution says it should be handled.

captain planet
10-11-2011, 04:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN4XOJcrhT4&feature=relmfu

Campaign commercial.

aquaman
10-11-2011, 04:14 PM
I disagree. Tim McVeigh (spelling?) by your definition was a terrorist, yet was given due process and was executed. Why was this OK? Because he wasn't a muslim? You have to look at it as to how the Constitution says it should be handled.

good Cptn....you have changed the subject as i did not say anything about the Oklahoma bomber.

IF you want to include mention of religion.......most muslims are not terrorists.

but ALL terriosts so far have been muslim. coincidence? unlikely.

CantRepeat
10-11-2011, 07:40 PM
After due process, which protects all of us, that is fine.

Doesn't bother me one bit that we killed the guy. He was out there providing aid and comfort to the enemy while arming those that were killing American Soldiers in a war zone. He got due process. The military had "actionable intelligence" and enough evidence to support an operation against an enemy combatant.

You take the actions needed in war to kill the enemy. I can't believe ANY American would even suggest otherwise.

He lost all his rights when he joined the other side. He committed treason, screw his due process.

captain planet
10-12-2011, 01:43 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjvuHuekq64

Highlights of THE Dr. Ron Paul at last nights debate.

captain planet
10-13-2011, 01:53 PM
Doesn't bother me one bit that we killed the guy. He was out there providing aid and comfort to the enemy while arming those that were killing American Soldiers in a war zone. He got due process. The military had "actionable intelligence" and enough evidence to support an operation against an enemy combatant.

You take the actions needed in war to kill the enemy. I can't believe ANY American would even suggest otherwise.

He lost all his rights when he joined the other side. He committed treason, screw his due process.

Here is an interview with Ron Paul on this issue. Other than the faux "news" anchor trying to spin it, Ron Paul does an excellent job of explaining why this is a dangerous policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRexSyuQ7w

CantRepeat
10-13-2011, 01:59 PM
Here is an interview with Ron Paul on this issue. Other than the faux "news" anchor trying to spin it, Ron Paul does an excellent job of explaining why this is a dangerous policy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WRexSyuQ7w

I couldn't give two ****s what Ron Paul thinks about it.

captain planet
10-13-2011, 02:17 PM
I couldn't give two ****s what Ron Paul thinks about it.

My apologies, it was SkiDog who originally presented this issue not you.

captain planet
10-13-2011, 02:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3giGl8EXigI

Dr. Ron Paul can win!!!

captain planet
10-13-2011, 02:30 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyx7Mkb5uDU&feature=related

Freedom Watch.

captain planet
10-13-2011, 02:49 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjBoAQw7bgo&feature=related

Here is a video from 2007.

captain planet
10-17-2011, 02:07 PM
Just to add some levity.....and reconfirm Ron Paul isn't going anywhere.

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/gop-debate-ii/1362551

captain planet
10-17-2011, 09:30 PM
Enough levity. Here is THE Dr. Ron Paul's press conference from Las Vegas today with his plan to restore America.

The answer and question section is impossible to hear the questions, but the answers are great!

http://www.ronpaul2012.com/media/

captain planet
10-20-2011, 01:51 PM
Admittantly not Ron....but still a Paul. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2GODbp-ils&feature=youtu.be

....no wonder people are sick of government when you hear stuff like this.

shepherd
10-21-2011, 02:14 PM
They printed a Ron Paul opinion piece in this morning's Wall Street Journal, bashing the Fed. Good stuff.

captain planet
10-21-2011, 03:58 PM
They printed a Ron Paul opinion piece in this morning's Wall Street Journal, bashing the Fed. Good stuff.

You wouldn't happen to have a link to that would you?

shepherd
10-21-2011, 05:13 PM
You wouldn't happen to have a link to that would you?

My mistake - it was in yesterday's print edition. It may be on their website wsj.com, but here's a chance to try out my new scanner. If you download onto your computer and blow it up you should be able to read it.

According to him: "The Federal Reserve has caused every single boom and bust that has occurred in this country since the bank's creation in 1913."

captain planet
10-21-2011, 06:13 PM
Thanks Shep, nice addition to the thread!

captain planet
10-24-2011, 01:52 PM
THE Dr. Ron Paul on Meet The Press on 10-23-11. What a great interview....just fantastic.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrJxnZkMk6o

Have a good day!

captain planet
10-28-2011, 03:34 PM
The movement continues to grow.....despite the 'reported' "polls".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WOQ5CFkVeE

captain planet
10-28-2011, 03:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDTVifnnpBM&feature=related

Local broadcast interview.

captain planet
10-31-2011, 01:44 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsRqJQyYSHo&feature=related

Rand Paul on Dr. Paul.

captain planet
10-31-2011, 01:59 PM
Sit down little boy, your games are no match for THE Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eseth1sy-N0&feature=related

captain planet
11-04-2011, 02:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppbsKKvlQ0M

Ron on Morning Joe. 8:50.....the first smart thing I have witnessed Joe Scarboro say.

captain planet
11-10-2011, 02:16 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yk2UVGT-iSA

Well, there was yet another republican debate last night. Here are THE Dr. Ron Paul's answers to questions he was asked.

captain planet
11-14-2011, 01:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlmc8ap5jEM

The debate from Saturday night. Ron Paul didn't get much time, as usual, but his message is still unwavering and isn't changing anytime soon.

captain planet
11-14-2011, 01:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wwbrihlXts

I hesitate to post this because it is not Ron Paul himself....however it is relevent because this is that is happening to Ron Paul. The media is against Ron Paul because he is against the status quo....who happens to own and control the media.

thatsmrmastercraft
11-14-2011, 01:28 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wwbrihlXts

I hesitate to post this because it is not Ron Paul himself....however it is relevent because this is that is happening to Ron Paul. The media is against Ron Paul because he is against the status quo....who happens to own and control the media.

Behold the viscous circle.

captain planet
11-14-2011, 01:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hzbD7yqzxM

Rally before the debate on Saturday.

captain planet
11-17-2011, 02:35 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-C71OyMM2JQ

THE Good Dr. on faux "news" Sunday.

captain planet
11-21-2011, 01:52 PM
Another debate and more wonderful answers from THE Dr. Ron Paul.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_621851&v=H1-PKek8aNs&src_vid=ElVCO5mdTrk&feature=iv

captain planet
11-23-2011, 01:55 PM
6 days have passed......time for another debate! This time the debate is on national security.

Here are the correct answers to the questions asked last night. ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZAW2spbZys

captain planet
12-05-2011, 01:47 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8nM6KnPxX64

The Huckabee Forum

captain planet
12-05-2011, 02:18 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVIBj8NejGg

The distraction continues in a different form. Now lets ask Ron Paul about Herman Cain and other pointless questions. They did sprinkle in a couple questions worth asking, but they are still trying to bring gingrich and romney into the discussion rather than talking issues.

Reverend Bob
12-05-2011, 02:25 PM
The Israeli lobby is targeting Ron Paul, just as they did with Ross Perot. Paul, is boycotted by the media for his failure to kowtow to Israeli control, and is very possibly the real presidential front runner. I think they actually fear Ron Paul, and will do anything to stop his candidacy, which is running many times stronger than the polls report. Paul is incredibly clearheaded and well read on most matters which effect the United States as a whole. He can go toe to toe with Bernanke. That should tell you something about his capabilities.

shepherd
12-05-2011, 03:10 PM
I saw Trump on TV this morning. He said Ron Paul is crazy, doesn't have a chance, and wants to let Iran have nuclear weapons.

Oh, and anyone he (Trump) endorses will win the nomination.


What a tool...

JBrew
12-06-2011, 09:38 AM
New Ron Paul Ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MXCZVmQ74OA

aquaman
12-06-2011, 10:14 AM
Good Ad.

I hope Ron Paul can get some Traction with the general public.

But to do so he needs to add some Sizzle and Spice to his message or he will have trouble winning.

captain planet
12-06-2011, 02:22 PM
New Ron Paul Ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=MXCZVmQ74OA

Good Ad.

I hope Ron Paul can get some Traction with the general public.

But to do so he needs to add some Sizzle and Spice to his message or he will have trouble winning.

Nice addition JBrew, thanks!

He could get traction with the public if the media didn't ignore him like they do. But they don't, so supporters of him, like me, have to do stuff like this to get his message out. Whatever I can do to help him, I will do.

aquaman
12-06-2011, 02:39 PM
Nice addition JBrew, thanks!

He could get traction with the public if the media didn't ignore him like they do. But they don't, so supporters of him, like me, have to do stuff like this to get his message out. Whatever I can do to help him, I will do.

you're correct......the media ignores ron paul......and Targets herman cain. and endorses idiot double-dealers like newt.

captain planet
12-06-2011, 03:12 PM
you're correct......the media ignores ron paul......and Targets herman cain. and endorses idiot double-dealers like newt.

.......and romney

JBrew
12-06-2011, 03:29 PM
Nice addition JBrew, thanks!

He could get traction with the public if the media didn't ignore him like they do. But they don't, so supporters of him, like me, have to do stuff like this to get his message out. Whatever I can do to help him, I will do.

you're correct......the media ignores ron paul......and Targets herman cain. and endorses idiot double-dealers like newt.

Thanks i'm all for Ron Paul 2012.... and yes the media is ignoring RP


http://www.infowars.com/are-the-media-purposefully-ignoring-ron-paul/

http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-gets-89-seconds-to-speak-in-cbs-debate/

aquaman
12-06-2011, 03:59 PM
.......and romney

Romney is electable. Ron Paul is probably not.

There is NO rule that requires the winner to be the best man. :confused:

captain planet
12-07-2011, 01:32 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWK-fXokTf4

captain planet
12-07-2011, 01:34 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj-0B_60Nkk

The good Dr. on Freedom Watch.

captain planet
12-07-2011, 01:41 PM
Wow, even the other candidates say Ron Paul is right!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8o5soqdCj8&feature=relmfu

captain planet
12-07-2011, 01:49 PM
What an endorsment......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M34BNvlbsU&feature=related

captain planet
12-12-2011, 01:33 PM
Here's the pitch, it's a high fast-ball, Paul Swings.....it is a long fly ball, back, WAY BACK....IT'S GONE!!!! Ron Paul has done it again ANOTHER home run, boy I tell ya, this guy is amazing!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QJL6IiNYo

-V-
12-12-2011, 01:55 PM
wow........

Reverend Bob
12-12-2011, 02:11 PM
Thank you for that link Capt P! Ron Paul shined like an arc light surrounded by dim bulbs!

On a side note, you are doing this man a disservice by linking him with Ventura.

JBrew
12-12-2011, 02:17 PM
Thanks Capt! Another solid post!

captain planet
12-14-2011, 02:27 PM
Here is a website where you can follow THE fine Dr. daily. It is aptly named, Daily Paul.

http://www.dailypaul.com/

I encourage going on this site to see what is going on in the world of Ron Paul.

03geetee
12-14-2011, 08:58 PM
God if elected and not run out of town by all the morons in congress, this guy could really bring us back.

It may take a mini civil war but I'd shoot a few rich senators to set the record straight....

Try me.

JTR

CantRepeat
12-14-2011, 09:27 PM
He should just become a sonneteer and start writing sonnets to fat chicks with beards.

I can't believe that so many people would read and use a recreational boating forum for real world politics. I would imagine there are far better ways to get your leg up on the positions then just linked videos, if you really cared about it.

captain planet
12-15-2011, 12:15 PM
He should just become a sonneteer and start writing sonnets to fat chicks with beards.

I can't believe that so many people would read and use a recreational boating forum for real world politics. I would imagine there are far better ways to get your leg up on the positions then just linked videos, if you really cared about it.

Hey, I look at it this way. This is the forum that I visit/participate in the most. I have been on this forum since 2005 so people know me (for better or worse....be quiet Tricky, Maristar210) and know I'm not some troll. Also, as you noted, people are viewing this thread so I consider it a victory. I'm getting the word about Ron Paul out to a group of people that may not have been exposed to his ideas if it weren't for me, because we have seen the media sure isn't going to let you know about Ron Paul. I love this country, hate our government, want to make some kind of difference, so here we are. I want to do what I can to help get the message out....and I think this is better than volunteering to sit on the phone and call people that don't want to be bothered with politics during dinner.

JBrew
12-15-2011, 02:53 PM
4 Reasons not to vote for the fine Dr. Ron Paul... 8p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-skTuaIsqZA

Reverend Bob
12-15-2011, 05:18 PM
4 Reasons not to vote for the fine Dr. Ron Paul... 8p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=-skTuaIsqZA


LOL! Clever sarcasm!!

captain planet
12-16-2011, 12:32 PM
Today is the Tea Party Anniversary Money Bomb for THE Dr. Ron Paul. I have already contributed......will you? :)

https://secure.ronpaul2012.com/

captain planet
12-16-2011, 12:52 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhbGL3F8r4c

The highlights from Dr. Ron Paul from last nights debate.

captain planet
12-16-2011, 01:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmuOiJDby6w&feature=related

I love the way this interview ends. "Tell the truth".

Remember, if you tell the truth, you don't have to have a good memory to remember the lie to cover up the truth.

captain planet
12-19-2011, 02:00 PM
THE good Dr. on Jay Leno Friday night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXn_37H18ds&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffoZcHNaX6c&feature=related

captain planet
12-22-2011, 02:34 PM
......this is a very important video. Please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo&feature=player_embedded

Double D
12-22-2011, 04:01 PM
......this is a very important video. Please watch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo&feature=player_embedded

Very interesting stuff.....

captain planet
12-29-2011, 05:04 PM
He ain't going away folks. Now what will the media do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uo1nB5-hA5k

WOW......even faux news says he is leading Iowa!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKH-qyYoHgU&feature=relmfu

captain planet
12-29-2011, 05:10 PM
I just love chris wallace; 'If Ron Paul wins, that means the Iowa Caucuses don't mean anything'.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i31iQC1Pn2E&feature=related

captain planet
12-29-2011, 05:17 PM
Uh oh, Hitler is REALLY mad......8p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ScPXDRcIfc&feature=related

oldairboater
12-29-2011, 08:17 PM
He has raised his family here. Crossed paths with them forever. He will not win the nomination. He has misrepresented my area while in office for a long time. I have never voted for him and have no plans of changing.

shepherd
12-30-2011, 02:03 PM
Misrepresented? Details please! :popcorn:

Sullivan
12-30-2011, 07:44 PM
I came into this thread with a chip on my shoulder about Ron Paul and his Foreign Policy, I was looking for video to post that would expose what I thought was a lame Foreign Policy. I found this video however that has me questioning my original thoughts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8NhRPo0WAo

oldairboater
01-01-2012, 11:54 AM
Check his voting record as our representative from Brazoria county, Texas. See how he has voted and what he has introduced. Its public record. Form your own opinion on him if you don't already have one. I actually was adding my opinion and expanding it but back spaced it away. I am not going to waste a whole lot of time on Ron Paul, his son with political aspirations or his family. Misrepresented? Details please! :popcorn:

captain planet
01-03-2012, 01:29 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2KV50BKQQ&feature=player_embedded

The latest campaign add for THE Dr. Ron Paul.

Big day today. How will they diminish his victory?

CantRepeat
01-03-2012, 01:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cr2KV50BKQQ&feature=player_embedded

The latest campaign add for THE Dr. Ron Paul.

Big day today. How will they diminish his victory?

Well, after they finish fueling the fire around his Newspaper he probably wont be a leader.

JimN
01-03-2012, 02:09 PM
It's hard for a lot of people to accept that the US could have done anything wrong in their foreign policy but it's hard to deny that people hate us because we have occupied too many countries against the will of the people in those countries. We have gotten used to being the 500 pound gorilla in the room and when someone gangs up on us, we want to erase them. Like it, or not, while we need to have a strong military, people on the ground vs using only spy satellites and we need to remain a world power, we need to step back and look at the "What if" scenario a lot more than before. It's far too easy for a small group to become militarily powerful because of the access to, and willingness of others to turn over to groups who shouldn't have them, biological/nuclear materials.

The Military budget will be smaller, now that we're out of Iraq, unless we maintain a large presence in the region. With Iran's most recent threat re: them attacking if our aircraft carrier returns, I don't see the US sitting on our hands if they carry it out. Any response would require at least taking out the ship(s) that attacked ours, or the military facility. However, I seriously doubt Iran would stop there. Now that they say they have nuclear material suitable for bomb making, My guess is that they will start nuclear testing in an area (Israel) that would be in serious trouble if they suddenly announce that "Oops! We had a bit of trouble with our test and some radioactive material escaped. I guess our bomb makers don't let you running dogs scare them- Allah be praised!".

JimN
01-03-2012, 02:26 PM
Check his voting record as our representative from Brazoria county, Texas. See how he has voted and what he has introduced. Its public record. Form your own opinion on him if you don't already have one. I actually was adding my opinion and expanding it but back spaced it away. I am not going to waste a whole lot of time on Ron Paul, his son with political aspirations or his family.

Can you post some examples? Just about everything I found indicated that the people don't like him for religious reasons.

captain planet
01-03-2012, 03:02 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDJbk8a3HGg&feature=player_embedded#!

A rally stop in Iowa.

oldairboater
01-03-2012, 09:07 PM
I will not post examples. He has had a long and unproductive career. It is also not religious. I live in his district. I am trying real hard not to go negative. We will leave it at I don' like how he represents his district. I am not concerned that he will win the nomination for president but I wonder if I am going to have to now suffer through his egotistical sons political aspirations now.Can you post some examples? Just about everything I found indicated that the people don't like him for religious reasons.

CantRepeat
01-04-2012, 09:39 AM
lol, Mr Paul says the war on drugs is not working so we should legalize some drugs. wth? How about don't smoke dope and you wont go to jail.

JBrew
01-04-2012, 10:23 AM
lol, Mr Paul says the war on drugs is not working so we should legalize some drugs. wth? How about don't smoke dope and you wont go to jail.

I believe what you have just stated is out of context. What DR. Paul is talking about is smaller government everywhere. Not just in some areas thus the statement about drugs. He is not advocating drug use or legalization of drugs, he is being true across the board about promoting smaller government.

JimN
01-04-2012, 11:06 AM
lol, Mr Paul says the war on drugs is not working so we should legalize some drugs. wth? How about don't smoke dope and you wont go to jail.

That would require people to follow the rules and if you watch or read the news, you know that won't happen.

CantRepeat
01-04-2012, 11:14 AM
That would require people to follow the rules and if you watch or read the news, you know that won't happen.

So then 37% of the people regardless of race will go to jail for it. I have no issues with that and to campaign on the fact that because people do not follow the rules means we should make it legal is just dumb.

CantRepeat
01-04-2012, 11:15 AM
I believe what you have just stated is out of context. What DR. Paul is talking about is smaller government everywhere. Not just in some areas thus the statement about drugs. He is not advocating drug use or legalization of drugs, he is being true across the board about promoting smaller government.

Nope, you are wrong.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8S8N2OG7sU

JimN
01-04-2012, 11:55 AM
So then 37% of the people regardless of race will go to jail for it. I have no issues with that and to campaign on the fact that because people do not follow the rules means we should make it legal is just dumb.

"But we want everyone to feel good about themselves".

Signed, The Nannystate

CantRepeat
01-04-2012, 12:46 PM
"But we want everyone to feel good about themselves".

Signed, The Nannystate

:D:D:D:D:D

Jorski
01-04-2012, 02:30 PM
How about don't smoke dope and you wont go to jail.

Reality is that this policy hasn't worked at all.

Isn't sending people to jail for using drugs more indicative of a nanny state than letting people make their own decisions?

JimN
01-04-2012, 02:47 PM
Reality is that this policy hasn't worked at all.

Isn't sending people to jail for using drugs more indicative of a nanny state than letting people make their own decisions?

If the behavior was ONLY doing drugs and then, only if it was recreational use, I might agree but when you have life-long users who'll do anything to get their drugs, no. Look at the US murder rate, highway death statistics and crime reports. People who are wasted, especially on hard drugs, don't generally lead productive lives. We all know at least one person who wasted their life or died because of drugs. Saying "It's their life, it didn't affect anyone else" is BS. Drug deals go bad. People rob/steal to obtain money/things that can be used to pay for drugs. Driving around with kilos of heroin, coke and pot isn't for recreational use. Heroin use has been increasing for a long time and the some of someone I have known almost my whole life was killed because of it. His mom and her husband live 100 yards from me and we're in the suburbs. It's all over and it's not helping anyone, other than the dealers and cartels.

Do you know who this guy is?
www.forbes.com/profile/joaquin-guzman-loera/

It's not working because of human nature- people don't like to be told what to do, especially if what they're doing feels good or they can't bring themselves to stop.

-V-
01-04-2012, 09:10 PM
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waiting for Captain Planet to chime in
:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn:
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mikeg205
01-04-2012, 11:07 PM
Interesting point on the both sides of the drug legalization debate. Check out the PBS "Prohibition" documentary...it will shed light on both sides of the issue. Some of the same arguments we have today were being heralded way back then as well. It's a tough issue, and we are spending a ton of tax dollars on it. Unfortunately, the stakeholders each have big guns and too many innocents get caught in financial and physical crossfire.....

captain planet
01-05-2012, 11:06 AM
Legalizing drugs won't make their use rampant because employers are not going to hire those who use drugs...just like now. Drug users are going to steal to get their drugs whether they are legal or not.....just like now. People who use drugs will continue to use drugs whether or not they are legal or not.....just like now. People who don't use drugs won't start to use drugs if they were legal.....just like now. They can legalize the stuff all they want and I'm not going to partake in any of it....just like now. If anything use their sale to generate money to fight the problems of drug use.....just like the problems we are facing now using our tax money to do it.

Every year we have Drug Free Work Place Training at our company. And every year I am truly amazed at what drug users do their bodies as a result of drug use. It is a sickness that is sad, no doubt, but to see what people will do to get high.....making them legal or not, they are going to use and do what they need to continue to use.

To get back to the point of this thread, which is the promotion of THE Dr. Ron Paul, the government can't protect us from ourselves, period. This is one of Ron Paul's ideals based on liberty. If you think it is the governments job to protect you from yourself, they you don't understand what liberty is all about and need to do a little more research.

Nice showing in Iowa by the way, 4 points behind the 'winners'. :rolleyes:

oldairboater
01-05-2012, 12:06 PM
Prohibition never works. In any form. Just ups the price of merchandise and creates the need to acquire the funds to purchase the merchandise. All the drug laws have done is fill up prisons and cost me tax dollars to house and feed non violent offenders. Just a reallocation of limited tax dollars to fight a problem that isn't the problem it is made out to be.

captain planet
01-05-2012, 01:09 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rUfjhDL8y_g#!

The speech after the Iowa results.

JimN
01-05-2012, 01:15 PM
Prohibition never works. In any form. Just ups the price of merchandise and creates the need to acquire the funds to purchase the merchandise. All the drug laws have done is fill up prisons and cost me tax dollars to house and feed non violent offenders. Just a reallocation of limited tax dollars to fight a problem that isn't the problem it is made out to be.

So, how about we use the confiscated drugs for the convicted users/dealers and let them use as much as they want while they're incarcerated (yes, I know that not all dealers are users)? They may get sick of it and stop on their own because, after all, we want what we can't or shouldn't have and once easy access is permitted, the desire often decreases. Some will die from overdose but it probably would have happened anyway, right? The drug addled inmates would then be unable to do much of anything because their body and mind will be toast. Red light districts turn to shyte in a heartbeat, so that's not an option.

Is it time to look at the reasons people do drugs?

captain planet
01-05-2012, 01:29 PM
This is a good piece of video as it shows the difference between Ron Paul and the other candidates.....if you hadn't gotten it already. The truly amazing thing to me is, when Ron Paul speaks he actually says something of substance instead of speaking in broad strokes like the rest of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrvDbJoYSqE&feature=player_embedded

captain planet
01-05-2012, 01:38 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyJYGNCktNo&feature=player_embedded

Another good interview with THE good Dr.

CantRepeat
01-05-2012, 02:23 PM
Legalizing drugs won't make their use rampant because employers are not going to hire those who use drugs...just like now. Drug users are going to steal to get their drugs whether they are legal or not.....just like now. People who use drugs will continue to use drugs whether or not they are legal or not.....just like now. People who don't use drugs won't start to use drugs if they were legal.....just like now. They can legalize the stuff all they want and I'm not going to partake in any of it....just like now. If anything use their sale to generate money to fight the problems of drug use.....just like the problems we are facing now using our tax money to do it.

Every year we have Drug Free Work Place Training at our company. And every year I am truly amazed at what drug users do their bodies as a result of drug use. It is a sickness that is sad, no doubt, but to see what people will do to get high.....making them legal or not, they are going to use and do what they need to continue to use.

To get back to the point of this thread, which is the promotion of THE Dr. Ron Paul, the government can't protect us from ourselves, period. This is one of Ron Paul's ideals based on liberty. If you think it is the governments job to protect you from yourself, they you don't understand what liberty is all about and need to do a little more research.

Nice showing in Iowa by the way, 4 points behind the 'winners'. :rolleyes:

Well, a lot of American's don't want their children exposed to drugs and if more dealers/users are in jail then that might have an affect on it.

Promoting only the good parts of a someone's standings leaves people uninformed on issues that might mean enough not to vote for someone. This includes Mr Paul too.

captain planet
01-05-2012, 04:12 PM
Well, a lot of American's don't want their children exposed to drugs and if more dealers/users are in jail then that might have an affect on it.

Promoting only the good parts of a someone's standings leaves people uninformed on issues that might mean enough not to vote for someone. This includes Mr Paul too.

The good Dr. is not perfect. I have a problem with his environmental stance, but really, other than me, who cares about the environment? And to put things into perspective, right now budget issues, creating sound money, the economy, and foreign policy are the things that need immediate attention....and in my estimation THE Dr. Ron Paul is the only one with real solutions for these problems. The other guys represent the status quo, and that is NOT what we need right now.

Jorski
01-05-2012, 10:35 PM
Well, a lot of American's don't want their children exposed to drugs and if more dealers/users are in jail then that might have an affect on it.

Well, the "War on Drugs" and "Just Say No", has been going on a very long time, and each and every child in America (and every other country) does get exposed to drugs. So it simply doesn't work.

As for the idea that "legalizing" drugs increases crime, there isn't any evidence of that when you compare countries that have legalized drugs. By the way, when they are available, and less expensive, it takes a lot less crime to pay for them.

Listen, I am not "pro drugs", nor do I wish that my kids get involved woth drugs; however, billions of dollars have been wasted on this effort with basically ZERO impact. The U.S. has spent the most money of any country fighting drug use, has the harshest sentences, and has drug abuse rates higher than anywhere in the world.

If we compare the U.S. where drug laws are strict to the Netherlands which has notoriously lax drug laws, we find that a U.S. citizen is twice as like to use marijuana and about eight times more like to have tried cocaine.

In my opinion drug use is a public health problem, not a criminal problem.

Sodar
01-06-2012, 10:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ifJG_oFFDK0&feature=player_embedded

captain planet
01-06-2012, 11:47 AM
Fantastic addition Sodar! Thank you!

Sodar
01-06-2012, 11:57 AM
Fantastic addition Sodar! Thank you!

It really is pretty bad as s!!

captain planet
01-06-2012, 12:23 PM
It really is pretty bad as s!!

Yea, to have it presented like that is amazing. It shows you how in tune with the current situation he really is.

CantRepeat
01-06-2012, 12:25 PM
Lobbyist will thrive, people will become poorer, people will be divisive about the war, Israel and Palestine will keep fighting, oppressed people in the middle-east and Africa will of had enough and rise up, and the UN will condemn some stuff.

Oh and the big one, after 9-11, America will attack Iraq! Yeah, the current President had already set that in motion.

Yeah Mr Paul is the new Nostradamus.


We can leave about the interest rate part, we all know he was wrong on that one.

Sodar
01-06-2012, 01:23 PM
Lobbyist will thrive, people will become poorer, people will be divisive about the war, Israel and Palestine will keep fighting, oppressed people in the middle-east and Africa will of had enough and rise up, and the UN will condemn some stuff.

Oh and the big one, after 9-11, America will attack Iraq! Yeah, the current President had already set that in motion.

Yeah Mr Paul is the new Nostradamus.


We can leave about the interest rate part, we all know he was wrong on that one.

We had dinner table talk last night and followed up with an internet search about this exact topic.

Before the collapse occurred, the Feds did nearly doubled the prime for a year or so in an attempt to slow down the housing market and avoid the bubble bursting. Granted, it was not the 18% rates of the 80's, but the rates did rise from the time he gave the predictions.

Just sayin'.

http://www.moneycafe.com/library/ratecharts/ratecharts18.gif

captain planet
01-06-2012, 01:26 PM
Lobbyist will thrive, people will become poorer, people will be divisive about the war, Israel and Palestine will keep fighting, oppressed people in the middle-east and Africa will of had enough and rise up, and the UN will condemn some stuff.

Oh and the big one, after 9-11, America will attack Iraq! Yeah, the current President had already set that in motion.

Yeah Mr Paul is the new Nostradamus.


We can leave about the interest rate part, we all know he was wrong on that one.

Yea, Ron Paul doesn't know what is going on. He is out of touch with our fiscal climate and should be set aside as an alarmist......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdJhHsAdXro&feature=related





Oops.....




Based on this post and the previous.....I'm assuming your apology is forthcoming....:rolleyes:

None of the other guys running are as in touch with what is going on as Ron Paul is. And if they are, they sure are keeping it a secret.

CantRepeat
01-06-2012, 02:24 PM
Yea, Ron Paul doesn't know what is going on. He is out of touch with our fiscal climate and should be set aside as an alarmist......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdJhHsAdXro&feature=related





Oops.....




Based on this post and the previous.....I'm assuming your apology is forthcoming....:rolleyes:

None of the other guys running are as in touch with what is going on as Ron Paul is. And if they are, they sure are keeping it a secret.

Don't hold your breath on that one. Who would that apology be to anyway? You? Ron? Neither! I'm not the one running for office. :D

I've lost faith in all politicians, it's nothing personal. Paul will turn out to be no different then anyone else that gets elected is all. Cheering for anyone man to be the savior of this country isn't something I can do.

The videos of his predictions are nothing that grand. As I said, they are all pretty clear to see and while some are dead wrong, others are already in rolling along far enough to see it's not a prediction it's just common sense.

captain planet
01-06-2012, 02:39 PM
Don't hold your breath on that one. Who would that apology be to anyway? You? Ron? Neither! I'm not the one running for office. :D

I've lost faith in all politicians, it's nothing personal. Paul will turn out to be no different then anyone else that gets elected is all. Cheering for anyone man to be the savior of this country isn't something I can do.

The videos of his predictions are nothing that grand. As I said, they are all pretty clear to see and while some are dead wrong, others are already in rolling along far enough to see it's not a prediction it's just common sense.

Well I'm with you on this one....at least for 433 of them. There are 2 that I believe in, Ron Paul and Rand Paul. The rest are completely worthless......but what do we do? We can't sit by and watch our country be ruined, we have to do something and I believe Ron Paul is the best and only man for the job at present. And for what it is worth, I really feel Ron Paul will not turn out like the rest. Call it judge of character, intuition, whatever....I believe he is different.

captain planet
01-06-2012, 02:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Gfzgxh3ZQ&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL544167C03B220177

More NostRONdamus.;)

JimN
01-06-2012, 02:52 PM
I remember my dad saying "This is the best we have?" every time a POTUS campaign was in full swing. Being a kid and not concerned with it, I didn't A) care, B) know and C) hadn't lived as an adult through the Depression, WWII, the boom in the '50s, the transition to the '60s, the economic downturn in the '70s, etc. I didn't have to deal with supporting anyone at that point and couldn't see why he was so disappointed. I can, now.

I think the main things that have changed WRT politicians are:

-The extent to which they'll go to be elected/re-elected.
-How low they'll stoop for votes and money.
-The moral vacuum they embrace.
-The willingness to lie in all situations where they stand to lose their position, only to write their memoirs a few years later, proving that they lied.
-Their thinking that ALL voters are stupid.
-Not upholding the ideas & principles that made the country what is WAS and the lack of vision WRT leading us back to where we need to be in order for the country to survive without a revolution.

People used to be self-sufficient, then they became somewhat self-sufficient. Now, that's rare and most people need to have someone hold their hand in every aspect of life, to get by.

If we lose our major sources of oil and DON'T find an alternative (like the Keystone Pipeline, which will only account for less than 10% of the US demands), EVERYTHING will cost more and people will have to find other ways to provide for themselves. If someone in office decides to mark their territory, it will be very ugly.

captain planet
01-10-2012, 11:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D23EB_Vf4Sw&feature=player_embedded

THE good Dr. has a head of steam going on......

captain planet
01-10-2012, 12:10 PM
Highlights from the Sunday morning debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_owONAOdmEc&feature=related

captain planet
01-10-2012, 12:16 PM
Here is an example of how Ron Paul was treated in the Saturday night debate. They are worried folks, no doubt about it. abc has a problem with Ron Paul, and it showed in how he was treated during that debate.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQe4POfX2s4&feature=related

The only thing necessary for evil to prevail, is for good people to sit and do nothing.

captain planet
01-10-2012, 12:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6KjGBWror0&feature=related

This is a nice interview.

CantRepeat
01-10-2012, 12:59 PM
The one thing that sticks out in my mind is how Newt said he wasn't eligible for the draft because he was married and had kids. Then he goes on to qualify himself as knowing about the military because his dad served. What a minute, his dad had kids and was drafted?

If his dad could be drafted then why couldn't he?

gid
01-10-2012, 01:10 PM
The problem with the Country is we (voters) dont have much if any of a choice. By they time the elections reaches my State (TN) the race will have been decided. Very disappointed in our election process.
It will be Romney vs Obama. Both suck. One is a multi millionaire who is vastly out of touch and the other has had only one job his whole life, President.

aquaman
01-10-2012, 01:28 PM
The problem with the Country is we (voters) dont have much if any of a choice. By they time the elections reaches my State (TN) the race will have been decided. Very disappointed in our election process.
It will be Romney vs Obama. Both suck. One is a multi millionaire who is vastly out of touch and the other has had only one job his whole life, President.

At least Romney does have qualifications, experience and papers. The other dude has nothing.

Is it rational to blame Romney for being successful? I would say he is better for the country than the freeloader in the WhiteHouse?

captain planet
01-10-2012, 01:47 PM
The problem with the Country is we (voters) dont have much if any of a choice. By they time the elections reaches my State (TN) the race will have been decided. Very disappointed in our election process.
It will be Romney vs Obama. Both suck. One is a multi millionaire who is vastly out of touch and the other has had only one job his whole life, President.

I often wonder why we as voters continue to elect people that are completely out of touch with the vast majority of us.

mikeg205
01-10-2012, 02:22 PM
I often wonder why we as voters continue to elect people that are completely out of touch with the vast majority of us.

It's unfortunate that money decides the winner and places the wrong candidates... when voting I always feel I am choosing the lesser of the evils in every choice.

Unfortunately too many people remember the last thing they hear from the lame-stream media. these silly initial primaries are a money grab to move forward. And it all starts with the congressional votes that people forget about...

gid
01-10-2012, 04:22 PM
At least Romney does have qualifications, experience and papers. The other dude has nothing.

Is it rational to blame Romney for being successful? I would say he is better for the country than the freeloader in the WhiteHouse?

I am concerned Romney would protect corporations more and more.

I would like to be able to elect someone who can make several changes; no special rules for Congress - they must live by the same ones we do. No special perks. That would be a good start

mikeg205
01-10-2012, 04:46 PM
I am concerned Romney would protect corporations more and more.

I would like to be able to elect someone who can make several changes; no special rules for Congress - they must live by the same ones we do. No special perks. That would be a good start

unfortunately it's politics and not a discipline governed by logic.

oldairboater
01-10-2012, 06:59 PM
A good start would be to throw all of them out of office and cancel all the benefits and perks they have given themselves---past and present. Break some of the promises they gave to themselves for a change instead of the voters. Bar them from ever participating in politics for the rest of their lives. Strict term limits and a change to the constitution that puts those elected thief's compensation in the direct hands of the voter.I am concerned Romney would protect corporations more and more.

I would like to be able to elect someone who can make several changes; no special rules for Congress - they must live by the same ones we do. No special perks. That would be a good start

mikeg205
01-10-2012, 07:13 PM
A good start would be to throw all of them out of office and cancel all the benefits and perks they have given themselves---past and present. Break some of the promises they gave to themselves for a change instead of the voters. Bar them from ever participating in politics for the rest of their lives. Strict term limits and a change to the constitution that puts those elected thief's compensation in the direct hands of the voter.

Here in Illinois we produce a different effect. We expect our governors to serve 2 terms...one in office and one in jail... We also produce useless senators that become president....

SkiDog
01-10-2012, 07:16 PM
Here in Illinois we produce a different effect. We expect our governors to serve 2 terms...one in office and one in jail... We also produce useless senators that become president....

You hit the nail on the head with THAT one!:(

captain planet
01-11-2012, 10:38 AM
A good start would be to throw all of them out of office and cancel all the benefits and perks they have given themselves---past and present. Break some of the promises they gave to themselves for a change instead of the voters. Bar them from ever participating in politics for the rest of their lives. Strict term limits and a change to the constitution that puts those elected thief's compensation in the direct hands of the voter.

THE Dr. Ron Paul has opted out of the congressional health care benefits and gives back all of the unused money in his yearly expense budget that congressmen get. He gives it back because it doesn't belong to him, it is tax money from the people and what he doesn't use fulfilling his job as U.S. Representative he returns. A real statesman like this doesn't come along very often. I hope we sieze this opportunity to elect him.

captain planet
01-11-2012, 01:15 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ_sLDWZdc8&feature=player_embedded#!

Rally last night after the results of the New Hampshire primary.

captain planet
01-11-2012, 01:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD_ybaXhXno

What if..........

captain planet
01-11-2012, 01:36 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnH0dxdiRzc&feature=related

Another endorsement for THE good Dr.

BrooksfamX2
01-11-2012, 02:22 PM
Theres a NEW candidate in the race now and he has my vote!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9jKszduiK8E

aquaman
01-11-2012, 03:40 PM
Here in Illinois we produce a different effect. We expect our governors to serve 2 terms...one in office and one in jail... We also produce useless senators that become president....

I think Illinois holds the dubious record for most governors indicted ?

Once elected, they should just put them in Jail for the first term? Save time. :)

mikeg205
01-11-2012, 07:37 PM
I think Illinois holds the dubious record for most governors indicted ?

Once elected, they should just put them in Jail for the first term? Save time. :)

+1 on that....if I could sell my house and find decent job anywhere but Illinois and a few other states... I would in a second... i.e. our crap governor raised tollway prices 100% in one decisive action - end result - lower revenue after...increased traffic on surface streets already. .50 for toll before to .95 starting Jan 1, 2012.

If you're collecting entitlement you're ok. If you're lower middle class you're ok. If your middle to upper middle class screwed. If your wealthy you most likely left the state already. Income tax also went from 3% to 5%. So much for doing things to stimulate the economy...more money to tollway..more money to state for the entitled ones...---screaming---

I won't even go in Chicago politics...the longer I stay in the state the more I have to get used to sodomy.:eek:

I hate this state....!!!!! and I hate this federal government... Love the country... but am beside myself. Screw the lame-stream media even Fox for writing off Ron Paul -

I have a good life...I just can't make it any better.... for me due to this crap government... I am grateful to have some $$$ to gas up my 1995 and get some skiing in.

My only hope is an early spring and warmer water to ski more in 2012....

thatsmrmastercraft
01-12-2012, 01:09 AM
wwwwwwwwwwww

03geetee
01-12-2012, 10:39 AM
+1 on that....if I could sell my house and find decent job anywhere but Illinois and a few other states... I would in a second... i.e. our crap governor raised tollway prices 100% in one decisive action - end result - lower revenue after...increased traffic on surface streets already. .50 for toll before to .95 starting Jan 1, 2012.

If you're collecting entitlement you're ok. If you're lower middle class you're ok. If your middle to upper middle class screwed. If your wealthy you most likely left the state already. Income tax also went from 3% to 5%. So much for doing things to stimulate the economy...more money to tollway..more money to state for the entitled ones...---screaming---

I won't even go in Chicago politics...the longer I stay in the state the more I have to get used to sodomy.:eek:

I hate this state....!!!!! and I hate this federal government... Love the country... but am beside myself. Screw the lame-stream media even Fox for writing off Ron Paul -

I have a good life...I just can't make it any better.... for me due to this crap government... I am grateful to have some $$$ to gas up my 1995 and get some skiing in.

My only hope is an early spring and warmer water to ski more in 2012....

I really couldnt agree more, or say it any better. Everytime I go to the lake house in WI I just kick myself when I have to go home, not saying money and jobs up there are doing great and life is perfect, its not. I just cannot seem to figure out how only in government (which is a business dont kid yourself) you can fail and just stay in business. Look at IL for constant and obvious failure yet we produce a president and more corrupt elected officials then anywhere else.

***!

JTR

captain planet
01-18-2012, 01:57 PM
Here are the highlights from the debate on the 16th. Way to go Fox, good job marginalizing Dr. Paul from the discussion.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9TplOWgQZI

captain planet
01-18-2012, 02:33 PM
Debate results......suprised coming from faux news. They actually point him out as having won based on their polling.....am I dreaming this right now?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuXQ0XapnNM&feature=related

captain planet
01-19-2012, 02:31 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tg69QM1yXQQ#!

Still fighting the good fight while campaigning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPfFGfU0AmY&feature=relmfu

captain planet
01-19-2012, 03:01 PM
South Carolina Senators endorse Ron Paul press conference. Funny, the media didn't let you know about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xve7TdXzG4&feature=player_embedded#!

mikeg205
01-19-2012, 10:57 PM
sounds like the politics as usual and uniformed group think will stick romney in the GOP nomination. The middle right lean of most americans will most likely not take kindly to newt's escapades. Ben Franklin stated after the constitution was ratified that america would begin moving away from its values and protections. Woodrow Wilson felt he as above the constitution and the voters since then have allowed a false concept of "ameritopia" to arise versus America. Mark Levine has book titled Ameritopia - which I can't wait to read. I figure I will vomit on Super Tuesday and consider emigrating November 7 at 12:01am 2012....unfortunately there's no where else to go...it's still the best place to live for now...the goal now is to prevent the U.S.A....from becoming the U.S. of FUBAR...like Illinois is.... is it too early to starting booking bets for a hat trick of governors going to jail?

Unfortunately Ron Paul won't get the nomination because there are too many stupid voters...

SkiDog
01-20-2012, 09:16 AM
The media has caused and is STILL causing the demise of this great country!:mad:

JimN
01-20-2012, 09:42 AM
..unfortunately there's no where else to go...it's still the best place to live for now...the goal now is to prevent the U.S.A....from becoming the U.S. of FUBAR...like Illinois is.... is it too early to starting booking bets for a hat trick of governors going to jail?

Unfortunately Ron Paul won't get the nomination because there are too many stupid voters...

But there are places in the US that are filled with people who think more like you and have similar representatives in government. Lower taxes go along with this and I'm working on going to one of these places ASAP. I can't afford to live in WI much longer and it's dam near impossible to save anything here- high property tax, high energy costs, crappy weather, rude/angry people, bad government....it's just not worth staying and at this point, I have more friends in PHX than here.

gatorguy
01-20-2012, 10:25 AM
- high property tax, high energy costs, crappy weather, rude/angry people, bad government....it's just not worth staying and at this point.

WI is not all that bad. It is a social state with high taxes and crappy weather. But when I lived there the best thing about it was the people. I did live in Waukesha though and not Madison. Also you have a ton of lakes.

Thread jack over...

JimN
01-20-2012, 11:01 AM
WI is not all that bad. It is a social state with high taxes and crappy weather. But when I lived there the best thing about it was the people. I did live in Waukesha though and not Madison. Also you have a ton of lakes.

Thread jack over...

The key phrase here is "But when I lived there". The weather sucks, WE Energies sucks, Milwaukee sucks (I'm in a 'burb just to the North) and unfortunately, the Zip Code is shared with MKE, which means my insurance is higher because of the BS in MKE.

I would rather be hot for three months than cold for six months. Last winter lasted 6 months- it snowed in early April and was still cold in May. If I want to go to a lake, I'll drive to one.

captain planet
01-21-2012, 08:07 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MWcp6vj61Y

THE good Dr. at the debate on Thursday night. He was, dare I say, EN FUEGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I love the answer at 9:00 minutes and then to hear ritt momney laughing smugly in the background. I also love the comment at 9:37...."I don't even talk to lobbiest so I don't have any conflict of interest".

HOW REFRESHING IS THAT?!?!?!?!?

captain planet
01-24-2012, 02:09 PM
Ron Paul at the debate last night.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvsM5WsC93Q&feature=related

These debates are getting out of hand. It has turned into 'he said, he said'.....that is until Ron Paul speaks, then you get something of substance.

Rock-on Ron!!!!!

captain planet
01-25-2012, 01:55 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfEwA3udA30&feature=related

I think this might be the most telling 0:45 of video of ALL the debates we have had so far this primary season.

captain planet
01-25-2012, 02:00 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9wzuvdLpFY

Stephen Colbert breaks character and endorses Ron Paul.

aquaman
01-25-2012, 03:06 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9wzuvdLpFY

Stephen Colbert breaks character and endorses Ron Paul.


ANYTHING from that guy is NO endorsement.

If it is, then Ron Paul should return it.

mikeg205
01-25-2012, 03:12 PM
ANYTHING from that guy is NO endorsement.

If it is, then Ron Paul should return it.

+1 - Dr. Paul, knows the constitution, knows health care, knows history, knows the Constitution. And let's not forget his multiple terms in office. Everyone thinks he's soft or goofy with his defense ideas....

People have to remember he's from texas....Don't mess with Texas..in that the attitude in TX? It would be great to get that in D.C.

Obama even stated D.C. broken...and the electorate wants more of the same... still love America...just shakin' my head...

Had to turn off Obama last night......almost vomited....