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Tom Wortham
08-25-2004, 05:35 PM
I am sure there are some old threads out there.. wanted to hear about successes of New carpet installation. I have found a marine carpet that is called "Mistic" it runs $40.50/yard (8 feet in width)... I'm assuming 8 feet in width is what I would need to get up on the sides of my 86 S&S. Anyone tackled this project? Plan to replace the skins as well. Not sure if I can get them through MC or will have to go to a after market. Want to try and keep it as origional as I can.

tph
08-25-2004, 10:42 PM
I purchased carpet for my '83 S&S a few years ago through an MC dealer. You may want to try this if you want to stay as original as possible. I think it was only 6 ft wide. Given the area between the stringers, I don't think any piece has to span the entire width of the boat and up the sides. Also, MC has skins for 1984 on up. I've heard it's good to get quotes from a few dealers as they don't all charge the same.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 12:25 PM
Great Information. Thanks Terry. Do you mind me asking what ball park I would expect to pay for carpet and skins? :D Layout of your 84 will be very close to my 86. Thanks.

tph
08-26-2004, 03:27 PM
There's a thread on the old site in the most recent archive under "It worked for me" about Skins. I'll try to find the invoice for the carpet.

Tom Wortham
08-26-2004, 04:05 PM
Terry, perfect thread on the skins.... I'll check to see if the 86' skins are any less..... would guess they are not any cheaper...
For the quick math replacing all new skins would run almost $2,000 :eek: Think I'll get a nice beach towel.... or find a little vinyl repair. Any thoughts on repair of the drivers seat back? :D

tph
08-26-2004, 07:13 PM
I've heard you can do it for around $1,500.00. Maybe they have a package deal!! .... the beach towel sounds better all the time! I guess you could replace the most badly damaged pieces now and do the rest over time. Of course, that assumes that they are available for a while. What's wrong with the drivers seat back?

Tom Wortham
08-30-2004, 11:00 AM
The top right side / top corner of the back of the seat has a tear that is growing. :mad: For the origional skins on an '86. It's not that bad. Probably due to sitting on the "high back" of the chair.

Jeff N.
09-13-2004, 12:57 PM
I redid the carpet years ago on my '82. Used a nice tight closed loop grade carpet. Can't recall it it was indoor/outdoor rated or not. Carpet has held up much better than the open loop stock carpet. Price was more like $12 a yard vs. the mega expensive quotes for "marine" grade.

Might be worth a look as I've been really pleased with mine.

Jeff

Tom Wortham
09-13-2004, 02:27 PM
Great Idea. Thanks Jeff. How hard was it to remove the stock carpet? :confused:

ski_king
09-13-2004, 02:34 PM
Tom,

I replaced the carpet in my 82 three years ago. Once I had everything out of the boat, I just found a loose edge and started pulling. The glue gave way and it came out fairly easy. I did take one shortcut. I didnt replace the carpet way up in the bow. It was good as new up there as it never see's any use. I cut it just above the foot rest and then tucked the edge under the new carpet.

I did go with the marine carpet, but I think Jeff is right, the indoor/outrdoor stuff is about as good and less $$.

Tom Wortham
09-13-2004, 02:44 PM
I will probably keep the bow carpet as well... Will have to see how well I can get it to match. How many yards did you use? I assume you could use the 6 foot wide roll... instead of an 8 foot wide?

ski_king
09-13-2004, 02:57 PM
I will probably keep the bow carpet as well... Will have to see how well I can get it to match. How many yards did you use? I assume you could use the 6 foot wide roll... instead of an 8 foot wide?

I will see if I can find my reciept to see how many yards and what width I bought. I had it installed at the upolestry shop when I had my interior redone. I was going to do myself, but they offered to install for next to nothing.

I do have a seam, which I didnt want, runs down the center from the vent pipe under the bow to the motor cutout. The is only about a foot and a half that is visable between the motor cover and the seat. It is hardly noticable. The floor carpet then wraps up onto the sides to go under the gunalls.

Jeff N.
09-13-2004, 04:35 PM
Powerslot82 - sounds like you did *exactly* what I did. :D It's been a while but here's what I remember.

I removed all the seat pedestals to clear things out. Then, I looked at the bow carpet and said...whoa nelly, no way..got to be a munchkin to get up there and no one ever sees it to boot! And it was in perfect condition as well. Just cut a really crisp line infront of the foot rest and started the tearaway.

To remove the carpet, I just pulled it up. I recall having to do a fair amount of cleanup on the deck and hull to remove old glue. Big scraper and a palm sander did the trick. Take your time here and do a good job.

I also did the two piece carpet with a seam down the middle. This seems to be the same as the factory setup as it had a nice seam over from the tow post to the base of the passenger seat pedestal. Also MUCH easier to handle the carpet in two pieces.

I recall the differences in the marine vs. the indoor/outdoor being the flexiblity of the backing. The indoor/outdoor was much stiffer and took more effort to get it all in place.

A real help is a bunch of heavy weights you can place on the carpet to hold it in place. You are going to need to lay it in the boat and do some careful cutting as well as hold it in place when you do the final gluing. I had a bunch of spare lead ballast blocks (about 20lbs each) that I used to hold the carpet down. Huge help. Oh yes, a second person also is a good idea.

I worked slow and I think it took the better part of a weekend between the tearout, prep and install and re-assembly. Turned out really nice. I think the carpet I used was better than stock and it's held up very well over the last 8 years or so.

Hope this helps...

Jeff

Tom Wortham
09-13-2004, 06:09 PM
Excellent! Thanks Jeff.

jimmer2880
09-14-2004, 07:36 AM
Jeff - do you remember what glue you used? Anything special? I have a bud who's about to embark on re-doing his I/O.


Great info - thanks!

H20skeefreek
09-14-2004, 08:01 AM
Jeff - do you remember what glue you used? Anything special? I have a bud who's about to embark on re-doing his I/O.


Great info - thanks!


Now, the I/O is different. He should start by putting a life jacket on. The next step is to drive out to the middle of the lake. And the Third step is to pull the plug and swim to shore. :purplaugh

jimmer2880
09-14-2004, 08:26 AM
funny..... I wish I could get him to convert - but his parents GAVE him the boat... hard to turn down a free boat even if it IS an I/O.

Of course, he could use it for a down-payment on a used MC, but that would only knock off about $500 off the price 8p

east tx skier
09-14-2004, 03:29 PM
I had my I/O for a year and didn't expect to get much in trade. My MC dealer shocked me with $4000 on a 10 year old I/O with sad looking vinyl. I was quite psyched. They could've had it for much less.

Jeff N.
09-14-2004, 07:30 PM
Jimmer - I can't seem to recall any special glue. Again, it was quite a while ago. I *think* I used standard indoor/outdoor carpet glue and spread it via a "v trowel". Yup...almost positive that this is what I did.

I also recall doing a lot of surface prep work to make sure I had a really good glue surface. Got all the old glue off, knocked it smooth with a sander and then got all the dust out.

Jeff

nattylightmike
09-29-2004, 03:35 PM
Last winter I replaced the capet in my 90 prostar. I ordered the carpet through www.boatcarpetonline.com, it was about $6.70 a linear foot for the 8' wide stuff. It turned out really nice, and saved me about 500 bucks. I also built a speaker box for my sub and used the same carpet to cover it. I used "Henry's" outdoor carpet glue with a v-trowl. I got all of the old glue off with MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) and a bunch of rags, it was spotless. I was really happy with boatcarpetonline and would recomend them. There are some pics in my profile.

Tom Wortham
10-12-2004, 04:30 PM
Last winter I replaced the capet in my 90 prostar. I ordered the carpet through www.boatcarpetonline.com, it was about $6.70 a linear foot for the 8' wide stuff. It turned out really nice, and saved me about 500 bucks. I also built a speaker box for my sub and used the same carpet to cover it. I used "Henry's" outdoor carpet glue with a v-trowl. I got all of the old glue off with MEK (methyl ethyl ketone) and a bunch of rags, it was spotless. I was really happy with boatcarpetonline and would recomend them. There are some pics in my profile.

Nattylightmike,
Did you replace up in your bow?
How many linear feet did you purchase?
Looks Good! Need to do mine this inter.

nattylightmike
10-12-2004, 09:37 PM
Tom,
I did go all the way up in the bow, so the colors wouldn't be different. I bought two rolls one 28' x 6' and the other 22' x 6' (better to have too much than not enough). I used the rest of the longer roll to cover the wall I made underneath the dash that has my sub in it, and the board underneath the bow that has my amps, XM, and all of my other stereo stuff on it.