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agarabaghi
05-17-2011, 11:25 AM
Lets hear what you are running...

Model: 2006 Mastercraft X1
450lb sac in walk way
450lb sac across on front seats
370lb sac in ski locker
750lb sac in left rear locker
750lb sac in right rear locker

usually 3 - 6 people on the boat...

Total weight w/ out people: 2770lbs

kskonn
05-17-2011, 11:53 AM
X 30
Factory 1100 lbs of ballast
550lb sac in right rear locker
550lb sac in left rear locker
1200 lb sac running up middle of the boat with about 70% of the weight in the front half of the boat.

total weight with no people 3400 lbs.

agarabaghi
05-17-2011, 12:32 PM
nice, how much does the x30 weigh dry?

X1 is 3200lbs

kskonn
05-17-2011, 01:04 PM
I believe the 30 is around 3700 dry, not 100% sure but that seems to be the number sticking in my head.

paus21
05-17-2011, 01:23 PM
04 205v

400lb lead in the bow
400lb sac in the bow
Factory sac in the ski locker. What is that? 250lb?
550lb in each of the rear lockers

Do 750s fit in the back? My 550s are pretty much all I can get in there.

CantRepeat
05-17-2011, 02:10 PM
06 X30, empty for newbs and just fill the stock tanks for everyone else.

mpabreo
05-17-2011, 02:18 PM
09 X-45

Setup #1:
550lb in each rear locker
650lb in bow
stock 1000lb ballasts
Total: 2850lb

Setup #2:
550lb in each rear locker
850lb in bow
(2) 550lb sacs mid cabin
stock 1000lb ballasts
Total: 4050lb

With gas prices these days we don't ride #2 much.:cool:

Huskie05
05-17-2011, 02:20 PM
I would die behind every single one of these set ups. DEAD! I wakeboarded behind out X55 with half ballast loaded up on each tank, I came close to death....

FourFourty
05-17-2011, 02:51 PM
X25-
Anything beyond stock ballast for wakeboarding.... I would end up :deaded:


I have the PNP fly high sacks in the lockers for surfing. I dont use the PNP setup in the front.

Holman J.B.F
05-17-2011, 03:17 PM
X-Star
710 in each rear locker
740 up front
1000 stock

3160 total

kskonn
05-17-2011, 03:22 PM
09 X-45

Setup #1:
550lb in each rear locker
650lb in bow
stock 1000lb ballasts
Total: 2850lb

Setup #2:
550lb in each rear locker
850lb in bow
(2) 550lb sacs mid cabin
stock 1000lb ballasts
Total: 4050lb

With gas prices these days we don't ride #2 much.:cool:

I am in the same boat(no pun intended) with gas. I recently put on an Acme 14.5 machined prop and since then My wake has been really nice with the stock ballast. I lose some overall size but it is great for a quick 2 hour trip.

agarabaghi
05-17-2011, 03:44 PM
04 205v

400lb lead in the bow
400lb sac in the bow
Factory sac in the ski locker. What is that? 250lb?
550lb in each of the rear lockers

Do 750s fit in the back? My 550s are pretty much all I can get in there.

750 fit perfectly and fill up entirely. But unless i have a person or some extra lead up front the boat wont get on plane with them both filled entirely.

web
05-17-2011, 03:48 PM
Currently....

Prostar 190
Empty :o

I have a feeling the answer may change sometime during the summer, but I've got no problem having this as my starting point.

craig3972
05-17-2011, 04:12 PM
Must have a lot of long line pro riders out there.

76S&S
05-18-2011, 08:49 AM
2002 x-star:
650 up front
350 bag in front walkway
stock ski locker - ~250
450's in each locker
Total around 2150

Thought I would add, that we normally ride at 70' and 22mph, usually 3 bodies on board and one in the water.

agarabaghi
05-18-2011, 08:58 AM
Must have a lot of long line pro riders out there.

yea, i pull a few "pro" riders, the nice thing about riding with them is they have so many pointers not only from riding but also for setting up the boat =P

willyt
05-18-2011, 09:39 AM
2005 X2
750's in rear lockers
500 in ski locker
300 on top in the walkway
200 lbs of lead in the bow
usually have anywhere between 5-7 people out with us. I find with the 750's in the lockers the best place to add any weight is up front/walkway. When i'm back to riding next year (if i dont decide to make stupid financial decisions and make smart fun decisions and buy an X25...) I'll probably switch the 300 for a 500 and add a wrap around bow sac in the front and take the lead out (net about 400 more lbs).

Have an MCX, Run the 14.25x14.5 OJ, 22.6-23 MPH at 75 feet. Had 11 people out with us one day + an extra 400 lb sac. That was probably the 3rd best wake i've ridden (1st - slammed Star/close 2nd - X25)

agarabaghi
05-18-2011, 09:55 AM
2005 X2
750's in rear lockers
500 in ski locker
300 on top in the walkway
200 lbs of lead in the bow
usually have anywhere between 5-7 people out with us. I find with the 750's in the lockers the best place to add any weight is up front/walkway. When i'm back to riding next year (if i dont decide to make stupid financial decisions and make smart fun decisions and buy an X25...) I'll probably switch the 300 for a 500 and add a wrap around bow sac in the front and take the lead out (net about 400 more lbs).

Have an MCX, Run the 14.25x14.5 OJ, 22.6-23 MPH at 75 feet. Had 11 people out with us one day + an extra 400 lb sac. That was probably the 3rd best wake i've ridden (1st - slammed Star/close 2nd - X25)

Do you have a link to that prop? Is it better than what came stock with my boat (2006 X1, not sure of prop)... At least in the sense of hole shot?

agarabaghi
05-18-2011, 09:57 AM
http://www.waterskis.com/14-25x14-5-4-Blade-Propeller-OJ-Fusion-Keyed-p/14.25x14.5_4_blade_propeller.htm

? that one?

76S&S
05-18-2011, 12:08 PM
agarabaghi, if you will give Eric @ OJ a call and give him your setup he can recommend a good prop for your situation. That's what I did and have been more than happy.

agarabaghi
05-18-2011, 12:15 PM
nice, just spoke with him and he recommended 14.25 x 14

kskonn
05-18-2011, 12:50 PM
Must have a lot of long line pro riders out there.

I am certainly not a pro but I have some guys that would certainly be considered "Semi-Pro" that ride behind my boat at 75-80 ft at about 24mph.

I find it is easier to set the wake up for them and then just ride on that wake, a better wake is a better wake.

when it is just me and my other average riding buddies I normally go with stock ballast.

willyt
05-18-2011, 01:11 PM
nice, just spoke with him and he recommended 14.25 x 14

don't want to disagree with eric... but i think the extra .5 of pitch would do you well. Btw you have a 1 and 1/8 in spined shaft, not keyed. I have more holeshot than i can handle, even when the boat is slammed out. I can't imagine running the 14 pitch unless i had a bigger boat. Running .5 lower will make you run higher RPMs at speed and reduce your top end (max out around 40 now IIRC). Either way you're going to be much better off, definitely can't imagine going back to the stock prop. that thing sucked.

kskonn
05-18-2011, 04:16 PM
don't want to disagree with eric... but i think the extra .5 of pitch would do you well. Btw you have a 1 and 1/8 in spined shaft, not keyed. I have more holeshot than i can handle, even when the boat is slammed out. I can't imagine running the 14 pitch unless i had a bigger boat. Running .5 lower will make you run higher RPMs at speed and reduce your top end (max out around 40 now IIRC). Either way you're going to be much better off, definitely can't imagine going back to the stock prop. that thing sucked.

I agree with Willyt- the hole shot increase from going to a better prop is huge- you will notice it instantly, espicially if you are the guy wakeboarding the first time you try it out. the first time I boarded behind the boat with a new prop the driver hit the throttle as he had been with the stock prop, I had to let go of the rope, it was to much.

craig3972
05-18-2011, 06:34 PM
I must be getting old. My tolerance for filling sacks is getting smaller. sometimes I just fill the stock ballast put a #400lb in the walk thru and ride at 65ft @22mph.

Jerseydave
05-18-2011, 08:25 PM
2005 X-star

2-400# sacs in rear lockers
1-750 sac in walkway
Stock KGB tank 500#

sometimes another 750# sac on floor, but rarely used
5-6 people in cockpit, no one in the bow (unless they look good in a bikini) :)

Not using the rear hard tanks (bypassed)

22-24 mph 70-80 ft rope (riders choice)

Huskie05
05-18-2011, 08:42 PM
2005 X-star

2-400# sacs in rear lockers
1-750 sac in walkway
Stock KGB tank 500#

sometimes another 750# sac on floor, but rarely used
5-6 people in cockpit, no one in the bow (unless they look good in a bikini) :)

Not using the rear hard tanks (bypassed)

22-24 mph 70-80 ft rope (riders choice)

please send pictures if they (bikini) ride in the bow.

nmcjr
05-19-2011, 12:06 AM
'02 star
2-500's in rear
stock 300 center
1000# bow triangle

75-80' 24.5 mph

agarabaghi
05-19-2011, 08:12 AM
don't want to disagree with eric... but i think the extra .5 of pitch would do you well. Btw you have a 1 and 1/8 in spined shaft, not keyed. I have more holeshot than i can handle, even when the boat is slammed out. I can't imagine running the 14 pitch unless i had a bigger boat. Running .5 lower will make you run higher RPMs at speed and reduce your top end (max out around 40 now IIRC). Either way you're going to be much better off, definitely can't imagine going back to the stock prop. that thing sucked.

Either way im sure it will be better than the stock. I should double check the prop i have on it now just to be sure the PO did not upgrade it.

Could you post a link to the exact 14.25 x 14.5 prop i should be looking for?

76S&S
05-19-2011, 08:17 AM
'02 star
2-500's in rear
stock 300 center
1000# bow triangle

75-80' 24.5 mph

that's pretty close to what we run but you have a little more bow weight which I would like to have.

willyt
05-19-2011, 08:59 AM
link is going to do you no good - there really isnt much price variation on props. I would either order it from your dealer or directly from OJ. Just give eric a call and see what he thinks about the 14.25x14.5 vs the 14.25x14. Either way, you're going to need a LH Splined shaft (the cup does affect your top end i believe - but not knowledgeable enough to know the differences between a .090 and a .110 cup...) I'll readily admit i'm rather new to this game (2nd season with the boat) and he's been doing it alot longer, and actually making the props... than i have - If i were you just take the question back to him and see what he says.

agarabaghi
05-19-2011, 09:12 AM
He said the prop was $600, while I've seen them for $375 at reputable online stores...

willyt
05-19-2011, 09:17 AM
make sure its the CNC'ed XMP edge version. Never seen them for less than ~550

agarabaghi
05-19-2011, 09:19 AM
ah, that could be it.

kskonn
05-20-2011, 12:14 AM
definitely get the machined, it throws much cleaner water out of the back.

nmcjr
05-20-2011, 12:28 AM
that's pretty close to what we run but you have a little more bow weight which I would like to have.

Yeah, switching to the bow triangle made all the difference, really firmed up the wake-highly recommended. I fill it to almost bursting. I find that adequate bow weight is often overlooked but is especially important in our boat.