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VTJC
04-06-2011, 12:20 PM
http://asheville.craigslist.org/boa/2265154448.html
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-19-5-FOOT-SKI-NAUTIQUE-COMPETITION-SKI-BOAT-/260764540097

I stopped and saw this boat a month ago. I talked with Rick the owner on the phone, but he was out of town so I was shown it by his friend/employee. I believe this boat was flood damaged in Texas last summer, similar to this boat. http://mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=38192 Based upon the registration, dealer sticker on the transom and the silt remaining in the bow, battery box, glove box and on the engine. The engine oil was also milky suggesting water contamination, despite Rick’s statement that that it had been winterized.

Here is a list of other issues I saw; unfortunately I didn’t have my camera with me. They abandoned the touch pad ignition and wired(poorly with scotch locks) in a new key. The boat started and ran, but no electronics or gauges appeared to function. The PerfectPass was not working, so no other way to verify the hours. Rick said it showed 410 hrs the first time the hooked up a battery but gauges don’t work now. No sign of Stargazer components. The hull was poorly painted in several of the white areas. The tracking fins where missing from the bottom of the hull, but Rick said he had ordered some replacements, the screws to install them where in a cup holder, so I think they were removed not ripped off the hull. The dash has a split down the center. Various Small vinyl cuts on the seats. Missing a correct cover and Bimini(mounts where on the hull). Trailer is in poor condition and doesn’t properly fit the boat. The friend stated Rick has had the trailer for several years before the boat came along. In the early Craig’slist as the trailer was yellow.

In my opinion this boat could make a good project, similar to the 96 ProStar shown in the MasterCraft thread, if you’re willing to re due the poor paint work and sort out the electronic issues. Hopefully the motor is good, but sitting with water in the oil for that long will have taken its toll. I would be hesitant to spend more than a couple of grand on its since clean 00 196 can be had for $15k…

Regards, Jamie

east tx skier
04-06-2011, 12:31 PM
Thanks for the heads up. The pictures make it look like it's in a lot better condition than you describe. Not a fan of the "Big N" graphics of that era boat personally, but they ski extremely well.

thatsmrmastercraft
04-06-2011, 01:02 PM
I'm not up on Nautique specs, but single exhaust? Result of a cat system?

Bouyhead
04-06-2011, 01:19 PM
That's been the deal for quite a while IIRC. I'd like to know why. east tx skier care to explain please?

willyt
04-06-2011, 01:22 PM
now thats what i call amazing condition

TRBenj
04-06-2011, 03:09 PM
I'm not up on Nautique specs, but single exhaust? Result of a cat system?

No, not the result of a cat system. CC has been using a few different 2-into-1 muffler systems since 1989.

DooSPX
04-06-2011, 03:19 PM
TRBenj, Its nice to see you on here again! How have you been?

thatsmrmastercraft
04-06-2011, 11:11 PM
No, not the result of a cat system. CC has been using a few different 2-into-1 muffler systems since 1989.

Thanks for the info. Wasn't aware of that. Any thoughts as to how it sounds compared to the conventional dual outlet?

east tx skier
04-06-2011, 11:37 PM
I thought it was to make it quieter. Memory could have faded as to the reason though.

H20skeefreek
04-07-2011, 01:12 AM
It sounds weird. Instead of being a constant sound, it kinda of sounds like it's surging, but it's not.

east tx skier
04-07-2011, 11:35 AM
I don't get that with mine. Unusual.

Double D
04-07-2011, 11:54 AM
Here is a video of my brothers. Its from my phone so sound is not great...

Still sounds like a cool rumbling V8!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_3Y5zulV-E

captain planet
04-07-2011, 12:01 PM
No, not the result of a cat system. CC has been using a few different 2-into-1 muffler systems since 1989.

Yea, taking two 3" lines and combining them into ONE 3" line actually REDUCES backpressure. :rolleyes::confused: And if you believe that I have some ocean-front property in Arizona for ya.

DooSPX
04-07-2011, 12:26 PM
When TRBenj did the work to his CC, it put dual 3" stainless all the way out. Also, I believe that the CC 2 into 1 is 3" to 4" or 4.5"... I doubt it hurts the performance output of the engine. I have dyno'ed cars for years with dual vs Y-Pipe design, and with the correct design, there is NO difference...

TRBenj
04-07-2011, 12:35 PM
Yea, taking two 3" lines and combining them into ONE 3" line actually REDUCES backpressure. :rolleyes::confused: And if you believe that I have some ocean-front property in Arizona for ya.

Sounds like someone is jumping to conclusions.

CC's single outlet is 4" diameter, which is about a 11% reduction in cross sectional area. Unfortunately, it seems 4.25" outlets are not commonly available. Somehow the big blocks of the 70's and 80's got by with dual 3" outlets though, so a single 4" does not seem to have any performance disadvantage for a small block.

I believe the change from dual to single outlet had more to do with the particular muffler choice than anything else... although going to a single exhaust outlet allowed CC to start putting the hose between the stringers instead of outside of them, while still retaining their longer tiller arm. Sneaking a second pipe past it is NOT an easy task. That change would have simplified the stringer/floor design as well.

The 89+ boats with the 2-1 muffler are significantly quieter than the 88 and earlier boats with the conventional mufflers. Not my cup of tea, per se, but nice on those early morning ski sets.

Doo, its neither here nor there, but Ive got dual 4" outlets on mine... though its only 3.5" most of the way back from the manifolds.

DooSPX
04-07-2011, 12:46 PM
Sounds like someone is jumping to conclusions.

CC's single outlet is 4" diameter, which is about a 11% reduction in cross sectional area. Unfortunately, it seems 4.25" outlets are not commonly available. Somehow the big blocks of the 70's and 80's got by with dual 3" outlets though, so a single 4" does not seem to have any performance disadvantage for a small block.

I believe the change from dual to single outlet had more to do with the particular muffler choice than anything else... although going to a single exhaust outlet allowed CC to start putting the hose between the stringers instead of outside of them, while still retaining their longer tiller arm. Sneaking a second pipe past it is NOT an easy task. That change would have simplified the stringer/floor design as well.

The 89+ boats with the 2-1 muffler are significantly quieter than the 88 and earlier boats with the conventional mufflers. Not my cup of tea, per se, but nice on those early morning ski sets.

Doo, its neither here nor there, but Ive got dual 4" outlets on mine... though its only 3.5" most of the way back from the manifolds.

Gotcha! sorry about that. I knew that 3" sounded wrong after I posted it...

About the 2 into 1, if CC did their home work on the muffler design, there will be NO performance problems at all, especially on a engine that sees 5000 or less, as I said earlier... I have dynoed LS1 F-bodies going from dual 3" to a well designed merge Y collector, 3" from the headers merged to 4" made NO performance variations on a engine that is known for its high rpm power ranges and loves big exhaust.

Now, personally I love the dual exhaust sound...