High End Slalom Skis??? [Archive]

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-15-2005, 10:09 AM

I have some questions for you all. I know I am still a newbie here, and you dont know how I ski, so I will tell you all again quickly that I dont ski a course. I am just a recreational skier. I enjoy carving up the glass as good as I can. I have started to ski on a 60 rope now with the advice I got here and I love it. I do push myself to improve all the time, but I dont get obsessed either. I just enjoy free skiing slalom to the best of my ability. My question is, can an intermediate recreational slalom skier benefit from a high end ski? I have always skied on old slaloms. My main ski was a O'brien international freestyle that my dad gave me in about 1987, and it was old then. ITs probably from the late 70's or very early 80's. I skied on that until this year when I bought the MC, I bought an O'brien Siege. I love the Siege, no probs at all. but you know....your always loooking for a better mousetrap. So, at my level, would a higher end ski like a Sixam, HO, or Goode be any benefit to me? or just a waste of cash at my skill level?

To be very honest, on the "lower" end I am interested in picking up a O'brien Synchro on a closeout sale this winter. They are a bit wider and may provide a smoother ride at times when I am tired or not in the mood to really push it. I think I would like that ski at times. But I know you get what you pay for too, so I wonder if a higher end ski would be good for me....?

What are your thoughts on this?? I appreciate any and all input!! :D

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-15-2005, 10:17 AM

OH yea, I forgot to add this too...

Whats the deal with those goofy shaped slalom skis?? they are wider at the front than the back. Whats the function?? what are they like?

BrianM

07-15-2005, 10:18 AM

As a recreational skier I would not buy a high end slalom ski like say a Monza, SixAM, Good 9600, D3 X5, F1, etc. Those skis are going to be very unforgiving in less than optimal conditions and will want to be constantly on an edge. They are built for one purpose and that is skiing the slalom course at short line lengths. I would "step down" from the highest end skis to something like the HO CDX, KD7000 or maybe CR7, D3 X4 or others along that line. Those skis will give you all the performance you need (able to ski the course into deep shortline) but be much more user friendly in the recreational world.

3event

07-15-2005, 10:21 AM

My $0.02 is go for it. I made the same call a few years ago, upgrading to a HO Truth after 13 years on the same Connelly Concept. I have no course access either, but a great ski makes a huge difference. Whoever you buy from, get the right ski for the conditions you have. IE for me I didn't want a ski so light and quick that it demanded smooth water - I don't get it that often. Lots of TT posts talk about wiley's at wileyski.com - take a look there -they have some deals.

Good luck !

3event

07-15-2005, 10:23 AM

I think BrianM did a better job of saying what I was thinking - one step down or so from the top of the line. It will save you from the worst of the sticker shock as well.....

3event

07-15-2005, 10:26 AM

I have a friend (novice slalomer) who bought a shaped HO Burner and pretty quickly got tired of it, not aggressive enough. They are designed to get up out the water quicker and be more friendly for newbies. When I put him on my Truth he immediately started to think trade - in .....

BrianM

07-15-2005, 10:26 AM

upgrading to a HO Truth after 13 years on the same Connelly Concept. I have no course access either, but a great ski makes a huge difference. Whoever you buy from, get the right ski for the conditions you have. IE for me I didn't want a ski so light and quick that it demanded smooth water - I don't get it that often. Lots of TT posts talk about wiley's at wileyski.com - take a look there -they have some deals.

Good luck !

The Truth is another ski that is not quite the highest end. The Phantom Truth was the highest end slalom before the Monza. You are saying exactly what I am, get a nice ski but not something that is so light and unforgiving that it is a chore to ride in open water. Definately give Wileys a look. Great prices and excellent service.

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 10:33 AM

Check out Wileys they have some great deals going on right now.

http://www.wileyski.com/

east tx skier

07-15-2005, 10:37 AM

I'd agree to go one level below the highest end.

With HO, I'd look at the CDX or ASX. The ASX is slightly wider in the middle and very nice to ski on. I've also heard of people on here with good things to say about the HO Mach 1.

Give Wileys a shout. They'll be more than happy to help you and know more about this stuff than most anyone on here.

stevo137

07-15-2005, 10:38 AM

I got my KD7000 from Barts a cpl of years ago for about 50% off because it was a factory blem. I could care less how "pretty" the ski is.
It won't be long before I have handle dings and such anyway.
I think you need to call and ask what they have as far as blems.
http://www.bartswatersports.com

SteveO

07-15-2005, 10:46 AM

If you go to high end and want to ski in rough open water, you will probably be disappointed. The real high end stuff is meant to be on edge and tend to be unstable if you are not making cuts. Brian's comments are great. I picked up a KD 7000 from Wiley's last year and love it. The other HO's he listed are also good ski's. Get something that will push your abilities a little bit at this time, but not to crazy. Watch out for the used gear (older than 3-5 years) as the technology is always improving. I looked at a friends 99 KD 7000, same length as what I ended up buying new and hated it. Seemed very heavy and could never get the groove.

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-15-2005, 11:22 AM

What about Goode's "lower" priced skis?? or are they still to out of my league for performance as a recreational skier?

and has anyone ever tried those O'Brien Synchro??

I hear/read alot of talk about HO, D3, Goode... all top end, very great skis, but I wonder doesnt anyone ski O'briens much anymore? just curious as I dont read too much about them here. I always thought they made a good quality ski... are they more "lower" end these days?? or not as good in quality and design?

:confused:

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 11:28 AM

lakes Rick

07-15-2005, 11:32 AM

I have a Big Easy?? Is that a shortline ski??

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 11:36 AM

Is that made in N'awlins? :uglyhamme

kpickett

07-15-2005, 12:27 PM

What about Goode's "lower" priced skis?? or are they still to out of my league for performance as a recreational skier?

and has anyone ever tried those O'Brien Synchro??

:confused:

I ski on a Goode, but it's best in the course or on really smooth water. My buddy, who is a great skier but doesn't get out very often, picked up a Synchro last year, and he loves it. It's fast, easy to ride, very easy to get out of the water, light, etc. He takes it into the course, and it's great on open water. I've skied on it a couple times for fun, but it's too big for me. Seems good, though.

My ski coach suggested a Synchro for my wife - she's just starting to work on the course. I'd recommend it based on our experience.

Hope this helps.

gene dobies

07-15-2005, 01:21 PM

How would anyone rate an HO VTR, which is what I have and a Connely Hook?

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-15-2005, 01:25 PM

thanks for the info on the Synchro. :D I really want to pick one of those up on a closeout sale late in the year or in the winter.

any more ideas???

MarkP

07-15-2005, 02:10 PM

any more ideas???
I would go for it. Find an 04 top end ski (used) and just go for it. I bought my ski that way expecting to sell it If I couldn’t ski it. I have never skied so well.. AND it gets better every time out.

Leroy

07-15-2005, 02:38 PM

I have been reading for about a year on comp skis. Thinking of the Synchro also and been scanning ebay. I think my sons want it more than me, but one of them has a size 14 foot, hard to cover from size 10-14 in a boot!

Pretty sure that is what Mag has and has said good thinks about also.

ski_king

07-15-2005, 02:41 PM

I bought myself a OBrien Mapple and a Obrien Syncro for the kids.

So far, I am not too thrilled with the Mapple and it may be going up on Ebay before its over.

The Syncro is the ski that suprised me. It skis great, easy to get up on, etc. I havent taken it int o the course yet, but I can tell it will do great. Best part, I paid $150.00 for it with a nice plate binding in the front and a rear toe plate (left over 03 model).

stevo137

07-15-2005, 02:44 PM

Stevo...

I think it is halarious that we ski the same ski and have the same boat.
:D B
Yes Betsy, it's just too bad that I don't have a nice place to have a course like you!
I really like the ski. It's fast, responsive, and also decent in rough water.
I'm going to be looking at the D3's next. I'm keeping my eyes open for a deal on a Custom 4. Probably next season though.
There is some hope though, the guy on our lake with the accu-sink gave me an invite but they get out there very early and I can rarely get out there when they do.

MarkP

07-15-2005, 02:45 PM

Denny

How many times did you get out on your new ski??

ski_king

07-15-2005, 02:52 PM

Denny

How many times did you get out on your new ski??

Only twice on the Mapple, I will be giving it a few more tries before I give up. The knee is getting better and hope to give it a try this weekend.

Mag_Red

07-15-2005, 03:10 PM

For what it's worth............I ski a Synchro ( I call it the psycho :D ) and love it! :rant: And I don't give a darn if some one's wife here has one. :D

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 03:13 PM

Mag you use a woman's ski? :uglyhamme

Mag_Red

07-15-2005, 03:19 PM

Mag you use a woman's ski? :uglyhamme Well when you put it that way.................Yes! :D

kpickett

07-15-2005, 03:21 PM

thanks for the info on the Synchro. :D I really want to pick one of those up on a closeout sale late in the year or in the winter.

any more ideas???

The KD 7000 (I think CG) of a year or two ago was a really good ski to improve on. It's soft enough to be forgiving, but it will take you far. I think you want a ski that doesn't hunt for an edge, which gives it that squirrely feeling. But, I do like the Synchro - the contact bindings are very good, too.

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 03:25 PM

Yes Betsy, it's just too bad that I don't have a nice place to have a course like you!
I really like the ski. It's fast, responsive, and also decent in rough water.
I'm going to be looking at the D3's next. I'm keeping my eyes open for a deal on a Custom 4. Probably next season though.
There is some hope though, the guy on our lake with the accu-sink gave me an invite but they get out there very early and I can rarely get out there when they do.

I put lots of time in on public lakes to know what you and others have to put up with. I don't want to be thought of as a "Pond Snob" by you guys! I'm not like that at all. Hey...the D3...that is probably what I am going to be on next too. My husband loves his. His problem is that he is so damn competitive and expects perfection from himself that he forgets how to enjoy the fact that he can ski at all and has a nice place to ski at. Hence, he gets frustrated easily when he doesn't ski into 28 to 32 all the time.

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 03:29 PM

Well when you put it that way.................Yes! :D

You're a stud dude!!

BrianM

07-15-2005, 03:31 PM

The KD 7000 (I think CG) of a year or two ago was a really good ski to improve on. It's soft enough to be forgiving, but it will take you far.

That is the ski I am on now (with double Wileys) and love it. It skis great. Was good when I was still learning the course and is still better than I am now that I am sking 36mph and toying with 32off.

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 03:34 PM

That is the ski I am on now (with double Wileys) and love it. It skis great. Was good when I was still learning the course and is still better than I am now that I am sking 36mph and toying with 32off.

I agree with the ski choice! I'm really going to have to look into Wiley's for double boot replacements aren't I? B

stevo137

07-15-2005, 03:36 PM

That is the ski I am on now (with double Wileys) and love it. It skis great. Was good when I was still learning the course and is still better than I am now that I am sking 36mph and toying with 32off.
CG here too. Brian, shortline at 36! You'll be flyin'!

BrianM

07-15-2005, 03:37 PM

I'm really going to have to look into Wiley's for double boot replacements aren't I? B

I love my Wileys and the price is great on top of that. They are also the current World Record Holders.

CG here too. Brian, shortline at 36! You'll be flyin'!

Working on being consistent at 36mph 28off. PB this season is 3 at 32off. Maybe next year I will be getting into the serious shortline. The speed at 28 is awsome can't wait for 35.

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 03:44 PM

Did you get front cinch, back cinch, or do they still carry the old wrap style without cinch?

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 03:45 PM

I have double Wiley's on my KD as well. They are the wrap around. Great ski.

BrianM

07-15-2005, 03:48 PM

Did you get front cinch, back cinch, or do they still carry the old wrap style without cinch?

Wraps. Don't think Wileys makes a cinch style. Best part about them is that replacment parts are readily available in case of torn overlay etc.

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 03:51 PM

BrianM

07-15-2005, 03:55 PM

Hey guys...how come we are sittin' in front of our machines and not riding our skis? It is Friday..what is wrong with us!?

Thunderstorms. Went out to the lake yesterday and sat around in my boat shed waiting for the weather to break. No dice. Same weather today. Going to hit it in the am tomorrow and try and miss the weather. I don't mind a little rain when I am skiing but not a fan of the lightning :eek3:

BriEOD

07-15-2005, 03:58 PM

Great! That is exactly what I want. Time to spend some $$. My front boot isn't going to last much longer. Hey guys...how come we are sittin' in front of our machines and not riding our skis? It is Friday..what is wrong with us!?

Got no excuses...Cody and I should be out right now. Although he might not be ready to pull me yet, soon though I hope! :purplaugh

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 04:00 PM

Thunderstorms. Went out to the lake yesterday and sat around in my boat shed waiting for the weather to break. No dice. Same weather today. Going to hit it in the am tomorrow and try and miss the weather. I don't mind a little rain when I am skiing but not a fan of the lightning :eek3:

Ohhh...that's right you are getting reminents from the hurricane aren't you? I miss thunderstorms. We get one in a blue moon here in the gold coast area of So. Ca. Most of them hit San Diego or Orange County. Backwash from Arizona and Mexico storms. Hope it clears up for a ski ride tomorrow! I'm dry docked this weekend...hubby's work. It will give my elbows another weeks rest and rehab.

betsy&david Harrison

07-15-2005, 04:05 PM

Loggin' out...time to shop on Wiley's. Chat later my friends...

Brent

07-15-2005, 05:14 PM

A good place to pick up a decent used ski is
http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php

How much you weigh, the speed you ski @ determine what lenght ski you should get!

tex

07-15-2005, 05:21 PM

Unless you are skiing very shortline-Stay away from the high end skis. I have harped on this before so I'm sorry if some have heard this before. Skiers generally buy way way too much ski. They see Andy Maple or Chris Parrish skiing on x ski and they have to have it. They generally bite off way more ski then they can ski. It creates bad habits and cost you your ars in the pocket book. Get a Concept, CR7, or 7000 and you will be plenty happy! I'll get off the soapbox now. I'm ready to go to the lake!

MarkP

07-15-2005, 05:25 PM

A good place to pick up a decent used ski is
http://www.ski-it-again.com/php/skiitagain.php

How much you weigh, the speed you ski @ determine what lenght ski you should get!
That’s the site I got my ski off of. Worked out great..

6ballsisall

07-15-2005, 05:45 PM

Michigan, I'll make you a sweet deal on my year old Phantom Truth. It's been used maybe 20 sets at best. Left Foot Forward Super Feet bindings.

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-16-2005, 10:23 AM

jrandol, I will certainly consider it. THanks for the offer!!! :wavey:

Lance McCollum

07-18-2005, 12:17 AM

Power Slot 82,

I bought a Mapple two years ago after skiing on the same O'Brien for more than 20 years. Although I should state that my O'Brien was heavily modified. I used to ski at the same lake as Bob LaPoint and every time I saw him he would tell me to do something new to my ski. I finally decided it was time to buy a new ski. I couldn't use the O'Brien bindings that came with the Mapple since they were too hard to get into with two previously broken ankles, so I swapped them out for H0 bindings. The Mapple is a great ski but needs to be dialed in to everybody's own style of skiing. This is a highly adjustable ski and the reason I bought it (and this goes back to the original posters question) is because the concave on it and profile of the rails were similar to my old O'Brien. I don't like full concaves, never have. I like the tunnel. Some of the modifications I had done to my original ski I found on the Mapple. The literature on how it handled made me think that it would suit me. But when picking out new skis, I think the biggest decision should be made based on what kind of concave you like and then how aggressively you ski. When I get the Mapple on the right point of its edge, it is blazenly fast. In fact a little too fast sometimes at my age! Makes me want a smaller wake. And wishing I had the ski when I used to ski tournaments. The setup I ended up with was majorly different from the way it came out of the box and it took quite a few skis to get there. But now I am a happy camper.

Lance

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-19-2005, 10:45 AM

MarkP

07-19-2005, 10:48 AM

I think if you didn’t like it you could ebay it.. Can you demo skis anyplace in your area??

Granite_33

07-19-2005, 11:21 AM

How about the HO CDX?? Wileys recommended this ski. I told them I am a recreational skier. ANy thoughts on it? I get the impression that its too much ski for me. HO calls it a tournament level ski, which is far beyond my skill level. maybe its not?? any input? curious.....

I just skied mine this weekend. CDX from Wileys. I only got a couple sets in, since it was a big family reunion weekend with nieces and nephews galore......all wanted to toob and board. (14 hrs on the boat in 2.5 days :eek3: ) (Boat ran like a champ!! :D )

My feelings after a few sets on the CDX.
#1 The ski is full concave, when you turn it...it turns NOW!!
#2 To get comfy, the boat speed was upped to about 34 MPH. (I'm more recreational and the old ski was fine at 32MPH) The CDX seemed to sit lower in the water than my old EP.
#3 The ski felt solid in the water when going straight. Not too squirrely.
#4 The Wiley wraps are comfortable. Easy to get into and out of.
#5 Though a "high end ski" I found it to be easy to ride. Somewhat forgiving......though I know I did not push the envelop on it yet.

I would recommend it, because it is at a great price, and you can work your way into it. :twocents:

MarkP

07-19-2005, 11:25 AM

I just skied mine this weekend. CDX from Wileys. I only got a couple sets in, since it was a big family reunion weekend with nieces and nephews galore......all wanted to toob and board. (14 hrs on the boat in 2.5 days :eek3: ) (Boat ran like a champ!! :D )

My feelings after a few sets on the CDX.
#1 The ski is full concave, when you turn it...it turns NOW!!
#2 To get comfy, the boat speed was upped to about 34 MPH. (I'm more recreational and the old ski was fine at 32MPH) The CDX seemed to sit lower in the water than my old EP.
#3 The ski felt solid in the water when going straight. Not too squirrely.
#4 The Wiley wraps are comfortable. Easy to get into and out of.
#5 Though a "high end ski" I found it to be easy to ride. Somewhat forgiving......though I know I did not push the envelop on it yet.

I would recommend it, because it is at a great price, and you can work your way into it. :twocents:HEII, After that I might get one:worthy:

ktn_cmu

07-19-2005, 11:45 AM

I saw a couple people thinking of selling their used skis in this thread (jrandol and PS come to mind). I may be in the market if the price is right. I ski an 02 Siege right now and am very happy with it, but will soon be looking for an upgrade if I can find one for the right price.

Kyle

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-19-2005, 01:16 PM

shepherd

07-19-2005, 01:45 PM

I'm in the same boat -- no local ski shops that I know of.

I've been riding a KD 7000 for about 6 years. After reading this thread, I'm thinking my next new ski may be the CDX. Does anybody have any experience how they compare??? Are they similar?

shepherd

07-19-2005, 01:48 PM

UP where do you ski? My family used to have a couple cabins on Lake Superior just west of the Sault. I've only been up there 4 or 5 times in the past 20 years, but I don't remember seeing any ski boats up there (just snowmobiles ;) ). Are there decent ski lakes up there?

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-19-2005, 02:00 PM

shepherd,

I ski on Lake Superior. THere are two bays I ski on Keewenaw, and Huron. Much west ward of the Sault area. There are some ski boats around here. Mostly fisherman though. There are some nearby canals that have quite a few local skiers. There are also some local inland lakes and rivers that have skiers too. but not many. Most of the time we are the only ski boat out there. keep in mind, cold temps. The water temps were still in the 50's until just recently. We ski with wetsuits all the time.

so if your willing to get up at 6 am to hit the glass calm lake or wait until 8:30 pm to get it, its a nice place to ski as its not crowded. You must be willing to deal with the very cold temps though. We skied in May and it was so cold my feet went numb by the time I got in the water, put on the skis, and got up. Brrrrr........

But, all in all, its good. :) Just no ski shops to try out skis :(

east tx skier

07-19-2005, 02:35 PM

Its hard to jump ship when I have been an O'brien fan for sooo long. I dont know why, I just have always liked their skis. But I got to try to keep an open mind here too. THere are other great ski mfgrs out there today.

so I will have some thinking to do............... :confused:

I, as a long time O'Brien skier, took the plunge into a CDX and have never looked back. My wife skied an O'Brien for years and was equally happy with the switch to HO.

MarkP

07-19-2005, 02:50 PM

see the problem is I dont have ANY local ski shops to try any skis, so I have to do my research pretty good so I dont make an unwise purchase. I really value all of your help here. Its difficult when I cant try the skis myself. I did pretty good with the siege choice.

That HO CDX and the Connelly Concept have me interested....

Its hard to jump ship when I have been an O'brien fan for sooo long. I dont know why, I just have always liked their skis. But I got to try to keep an open mind here too. THere are other great ski mfgrs out there today.

so I will have some thinking to do............... :confused:
If your moving in the right direction, I don’t think you could make an “unwise purchase” of ski equipment. As a matter of fact when I bought my new ski this year I was looking for a particular ski that I was 80% sure I was going to sell on ebay when “the ski” came along. I got lucky and “The ski” came along first. But you could be in and out of a ski for about the cost of a demo ride..

east tx skier

07-19-2005, 03:17 PM

Mark's right. There's no right ski for everyone. Ebay is a viable alternative to demo'ing in my opinion if you don't have a local shop with a good demo program, in which case you'll be paying for shipment of a demo ski. My wife and I each bought one ski that wasn't the perfect fit for us. I was out about $25 for my "demo." We broke even on her first try at a new ski.

Granite_33

07-19-2005, 08:43 PM

see the problem is I dont have ANY local ski shops to try any skis, so I have to do my research pretty good so I dont make an unwise purchase. I really value all of your help here. Its difficult when I cant try the skis myself. I did pretty good with the siege choice.

That HO CDX and the Connelly Concept have me interested....

Its hard to jump ship when I have been an O'brien fan for sooo long. I dont know why, I just have always liked their skis. But I got to try to keep an open mind here too. THere are other great ski mfgrs out there today.

so I will have some thinking to do............... :confused:

O'Briens are good skis.....problem with me was that the Mapple only went up to 68". The ole EP was 69". I did not want to go down in size. You have the option, Wileys still has 68" Mapples, and 68" CDX's I think. Buy em both for the price of a new F1, Monza, etc and Ebay the one you like less.......thats not really off the wall when you consider the price of an F1, HO Monza, Goode, etc, etc :D

east tx skier

07-19-2005, 09:01 PM

Just a little note on the Mapple. If you don't no how to tinker with the fin, you may have trouble getting it dialed in. That's why I ended up selling mine. It was great at first, but I couldn't ever get it to work from a predictable standpoint. I stil think it's a great ski though. Just my $.02.

ski_king

07-19-2005, 09:19 PM

Just a little note on the Mapple. If you don't no how to tinker with the fin, you may have trouble getting it dialed in. ................
That is what I am doing now. Using the sheet that came with the ski as a guide. I may be old and grey before I get it dialed in for me.

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-19-2005, 09:26 PM

good point Doug, you know.....I havent even tried tweaking my Siege yet..... :o I know, I know. I should. Any ideas? I suppose I could try shifting the binders forward or backward a notch. or moving the fin or the little wing on it. Where do I start first? anybody got any advice on that? Maybe I can dial that in where its better suited to my tastes too :confused:

I will tell you that for the price, that HO CDX has really got me interested at Wileys. Are they a good place to deal with? I got a good qoute on a CDX with an Animal front and a RTP bindings.

What else can you people tell me about Wiley's, the HO CDX, and tweaking my Siege??

Man!! am I bad, or what?? I am just picking all of your brains. You know, I feel kinda bad, I mean I am able to get so much info from all you fine folks on this board, and I dont give back much. I have been skiing for almost 20 years, but dont have anywhere near the wealth of knowledge about it that you people do. I hope I get the chance to offer you all some help sometime and return the favor :)

east tx skier

07-19-2005, 09:30 PM

If you don't know about messing with fins, don't just try to wing it (no pun intended). Even if you do, always start with the factory recommended settings and go from there. Start with the bindign position first. Then mess with the wing if it's on there. Then adjust the fin. You'll need a set of calipers to do the fin. Somewhere in the past I posted something about what different fin settings do in a general sense (not that I've felt compelled to mess with mine (see rule #1). For the CDX settings, contact Eddie Roberts at HO or Matt Rini. I used Matt's recommendations to set my boots up. My instructor checked them at ski school and said "you can't get 'em much closer to stock than that." Thus, my skiing was the problem. ;)

I've got nothing but good things to say about Wileys. They are top notch!

AIRCANX09

07-19-2005, 09:39 PM

I checked Wylies web site. Great pricing, even with exchange. Anyone in Canada use them, or is there a Candian equivalent.

shepherd

07-20-2005, 08:34 AM

Man, I wasn't even considering buying a new ski until I started reading this thread! ;)

Sounds to me like Ebay may be the place to check first -- check out all you guys' rejects.

And what's with the Monza? It's been a long time since I've been ski shopping -- I've never seen a ski that expensive! Can it be worth it? (probably not for a lowly amateur like me).

MarkP

07-20-2005, 08:42 AM

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-20-2005, 10:03 AM

Man, I wasn't even considering buying a new ski until I started reading this thread! ;)

we got you thinking now too!! Ya know, I am so confused about this now. There are SO many skis to choose from. I dont know what to do.... :confused: I am leaning toward that HO CDX now..... we will see.

I think I should buy a new prop first seeing I already have a nice new ski (Siege) and I could use a CNC prop more I think. That will give me time to really get "into" my Siege and have something to compare the CDX to. Whatcha think?

Upper Michigan Prostar190

07-20-2005, 11:46 AM

Granite_33

07-20-2005, 12:07 PM

Hey, why can't I find any info on the CDX on HO's website??

Its not in their brochure either..... a friend of mine picked up a HO brochure while out of town and gave it to me. I find NO info on the CDX anywhere.....

Hmmm.... why is that :confused: ?

I saw that too and inquired as to why. Wileys came back to me and said that HO did a special run for them in late 2004.

Here is the thread I started on the same subject.

http://www.tmcowners.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=3716

east tx skier

07-20-2005, 12:22 PM

Just FYI, from my conversation with HO HQ last year, the Jobe Edge Graphite is the exact same ski. Same mold, same layup, etc. You might check the Jobe catalog.

betsy&david Harrison

07-20-2005, 08:44 PM

I am now in the market for a D3...just got the bindings in from Wiley's and I don't like them. Sent them back with a big SORRY. So, I'll ski my KD7000 with a bad boot (not in a critical place) and look for a D3. B

MarkP

07-20-2005, 08:51 PM

My buddy just got an X5 off of ebay. I think he told me he has about 6 into it with bindings (RTP). I could ask him tomorrow to be sure???

betsy&david Harrison

07-20-2005, 08:53 PM

Think tomorrow I'll hit ebay up and look for the D3. I want high wrap double bindings with open toes. Not too picky am I? B

jimmer2880

07-21-2005, 05:52 AM

I have to throw in that I absolutely LOVE my Goode 9200. Full Concave and I feel it is more forgiving than a tullel ski.

If I ever come across a Goode 8000, it may end up in my garage though. That was one fun ski! Didn't like the chop like my 9200 does though.

I bought mine 2 years old a couple years back for $300.00 with bindings. Best money I've spent on ski gear so far.