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matt
02-06-2011, 03:04 PM
I live in Mobile, Al and the freshwater here is brackish. I have a 1995 Prostar with the LT1, which I am currantly rebuilding. I have noticed a lot of corrosion on the aluminum engine parts, I even had to replace the heads. I was considering setting up a heat exchanger system, but really can't find any good info here on the internet. I would appreciate any help. Thanks

Jorski
02-07-2011, 02:52 PM
I would call both your dealer and skidim... http://www.skidim.com

This image is from skidim's catalogue...it's for a ford, but they have other parts.

http://www.skidim.com/images/rk025009D.jpg

They should have the parts that you need

Sodar
02-07-2011, 03:07 PM
I had one on my '96 LT-1.

If you are rebuilding a motor, installing a CC system will be EASY! Orca is the big manufacturer and their systems are usually around $1,000....

http://orcamarine.thomasnet.com/item/marine-cooling-system-kits/conventional-marine-cooling-system-kits/300088?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_m3bPnaMHpYM/Rgab2P27AfI/AAAAAAAAAXI/WYkyiUC4ebY/s800/DSC01043.JPG

flipper
02-07-2011, 03:39 PM
"No Step"

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Bouyhead
02-07-2011, 04:47 PM
I did quite a bit of research recently on a closed cooling system for my 96 prostar 190. Orca is definately the bomb but it's also up to $1700 for the GM motor set up. Ouch!

Hey Sodar, Thanks. For a diehard Prostar guy that is engine porn in it's purest form!!I had one on my '96 LT-1.

If you are rebuilding a motor, installing a CC system will be EASY! Orca is the big manufacturer and their systems are usually around $1,000....

http://orcamarine.thomasnet.com/item/marine-cooling-system-kits/conventional-marine-cooling-system-kits/300088?

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_m3bPnaMHpYM/Rgab2P27AfI/AAAAAAAAAXI/WYkyiUC4ebY/s800/DSC01043.JPG

Sodar
02-07-2011, 04:50 PM
"No Step"

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That decal came with the system, you little b*t*h

scott023
02-07-2011, 04:58 PM
That decal came with the system, you little b*t*h

He's not little anymore... needs to go on a diet. :D

matt
02-07-2011, 07:53 PM
Man guys, thanks for the help. I emailed Orca and the LT1 kit is $1310.OO, not too bad. Found one on ebasicpower.com made by Econo-Kool thats about half the price for chevys. When you get to the ordering menu, it says not for EFI engines, I'm still trying to get that one worked out. I think the filler neck might interfere with the ait filter on the front of the injection. I'll find out and post it for everyones knowledge. I bought the boat last year from a shady dealership in on the Georgia-Florida line, and as soon as I got the boat home I found several problems they tried to hide. Anyway, its engine got bored .030 over, new bearings, new heads, and cooling systems. I was thinking the freshwater cooling would prevent the corrosion. this is the first inboard since I moved to Mobile, I was wondering if flushing the engine everytime I went out would be a more cost effective alternative.

flipper
02-08-2011, 11:27 AM
That decal came with the system, you little b*t*h

He's not little anymore... needs to go on a diet. :D
Scoot makes a good point here:rolleyes:


And no matter how it got there, it's still funny. Ask Stu, he'll tell ya.;)

scott023
02-08-2011, 12:18 PM
Scoot makes a good point here:rolleyes:


And no matter how it got there, it's still funny. Ask Stu, he'll tell ya.;)

Stu knows... :D

JohnE
02-08-2011, 12:27 PM
That was funny Phil!

Kyle
02-08-2011, 01:58 PM
Man guys, thanks for the help. I emailed Orca and the LT1 kit is $1310.OO, not too bad. Found one on ebasicpower.com made by Econo-Kool thats about half the price for chevys. When you get to the ordering menu, it says not for EFI engines, I'm still trying to get that one worked out. I think the filler neck might interfere with the ait filter on the front of the injection. I'll find out and post it for everyones knowledge. I bought the boat last year from a shady dealership in on the Georgia-Florida line, and as soon as I got the boat home I found several problems they tried to hide. Anyway, its engine got bored .030 over, new bearings, new heads, and cooling systems. I was thinking the freshwater cooling would prevent the corrosion. this is the first inboard since I moved to Mobile, I was wondering if flushing the engine everytime I went out would be a more cost effective alternative.



Please let us know if the new kit comes with the "No Step" decal......It matters:D

Kyle
02-08-2011, 02:06 PM
As far as flushing it every time...seems like a lot of extra work. If you used your boat 2x per week that's roughly 50 times a year. Is it worth $20 per time not to fool with it. Let's say you keep your boat another 3 years. Is it worth saving roughly $6.50 per trip and having to spend an extra 30 to 45 min of hastle and having to worry about corrosion. Seems like a lot less stress if you had the cooling system. Just my $0.02

Sodar
02-08-2011, 02:42 PM
As far as flushing it every time...seems like a lot of extra work. If you used your boat 2x per week that's roughly 50 times a year. Is it worth $20 per time not to fool with it. Let's say you keep your boat another 3 years. Is it worth saving roughly $6.50 per trip and having to spend an extra 30 to 45 min of hastle and having to worry about corrosion. Seems like a lot less stress if you had the cooling system. Just my $0.02

You still have to flush. Unless you want to spend big $$$$, the half systems only protect the motor. The exhaust is still cooled by raw water and needs to be flushed if ran in brackish or salt water.

oldairboater
02-08-2011, 03:37 PM
Don't go cheap. Not all the systems are the same and not all systems fit as good.

Kyle
02-08-2011, 04:19 PM
You still have to flush. Unless you want to spend big $$$$, the half systems only protect the motor. The exhaust is still cooled by raw water and needs to be flushed if ran in brackish or salt water.

Makes total sense now. Guess I need to pull my head out and think a little better.

matt
02-08-2011, 07:43 PM
Thanks guys, I think the Orca system is the way I'm going to go. It seems like the best deal. I have the facilities to do the fitting and fabricating but sometimes it's worth the extra bucks for the simplicty of it all

blackcreek
02-09-2011, 10:38 PM
As far as flushing it every time...seems like a lot of extra work.
I have a 97 205 prostar with the LT-1 and use a quick disconnect on a mercruiser flush hose and fitting. I pull up to my boat house and flip up the engine cover, plug the hose in, and by the time I have my boat up on the lift I shut the motor off and I am done. Works like a champ.
96 Impala SS LT-1 heads are steel by the way. If I ever do have to rebuild I will use the steel heads for a little extra corrosion resistance.

matt
02-11-2011, 10:01 PM
Thanks Blackcreek, I had a set of free iron heads, but they disappeared. I bought a new set of aluminums from Chad Golen at Golen Engine Service for $220 so it wasn't that bad. this has been a cheap rebuild for the amount of work done. I think that is the route I'm going to take for right now. The exchanger seems like a good idea, but I have about that much in the rebuild. By the way everyone, be wary of A Boat Store LLC in Valdosta, Ga. They had this boat and a Barefoot 200 advertised last summer. The girl on the phone assured me how great both boats were. Me and the kids drove 5 hours to buy one, and the prices changed when we got there. Both boats weren't as great as the pics showed. Anyway, I bought the inboard. The boat wasn't bad, the engine sounded good. I should have checked compression at the dealer ship, it had very good on seven cylinders, and 60 psi on one. Anyway, we tore the engine down, and there were several cover-ups we found in the process. Anyway, it will be back better than new here shortly. If anyone wants to know anymore about this shadetree dealership, please email me.