View Full Version : Perfect Pass Wakeboard Pro and Stargazer Wake Edition
01-28-2011, 05:36 PM
What’s the difference between Perfect Pass Wakeboard Pro and Stargazer Wake Edition in terms of features and price? Which is better for an 05 X2 (without MC cruise control)?
01-28-2011, 05:38 PM
One is paddle wheel and stargazer is GPS. Stargazer works great and does not require a hole in the hull.
01-28-2011, 06:55 PM
Would a WBP perfect pass install require the dealer to put a hole in the hull?
And is a GPS based system accurate enough to hold a tight speed?
Which is considered to be better? (Also, which is more expensive?)
east tx skier
01-28-2011, 07:04 PM
Yes, WBP requires a 2" hole in the hull. SG is great unless you ride on a river, in which case a paddle wheel lEss system is your best bet since it will account for the current. I have SG for slalom and love it.
01-28-2011, 07:07 PM
I am only familiar with Stargazer. It does not require any hole (other than mounting the antenna). My unit was extremely accurate (unless you look at the tenths of a mph). Call PP, they are great to work with.
I paid $1295 for stargazer and installed it myself. PP shiped preconfigured and it took less than 2 hours to be fully functional. I didn't want a hole in the hull. It came with everything including the digital speedo.
east tx skier
01-28-2011, 07:33 PM
You can snake the antenna wire under the dash pod. No drilling required.
01-28-2011, 07:38 PM
I still have a DBW wakeboard pro brain, and a black gauge looking for a good home.
check with your dealer regarding the dbw setup. Back when I did it, PP required that you "flash" the ecm of your engine because it's drive by wire.
Not sure if the SG requires that?
01-28-2011, 07:53 PM
good point if the boat is newer with drive by wire and you want perfect pass, I believe your only option is the paddle wheel or Zero OFF GPS. Check into the year of boat and type of throttle.
it was no big deal for them to flash the ecm, but PP didnt work until the flash
east tx skier
01-28-2011, 08:38 PM
Listen to Ric, he knows about the 05. My friend had an 05 209 and he had all sorts of issues with SG. PP was able to resolve most of them without reflashing, but it was a bit of a battle. The only issue I have had with SG was a memory issue. PP was great to work with. They reworked the method by which all future systems saved information based on my and one other person in the country's issue. This took no fewer than 6 master modules shipped to me overnight from Canada to Texas with all return shipping reimbursed, All in a matter of 2--3 weeks. Can't complain about that.
01-28-2011, 10:54 PM
just a speed control question for those (all of you) smarter than me on this topic. My 88 would need a mechanical engine application right?
01-28-2011, 10:56 PM
just a speed control question for those (all of you) smarter than me on this topic. My 88 would need a drive by wire application right?
drive-by-wire started in '05....your '88 has a throttle cable