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2000205V
01-11-2011, 09:22 PM
Hey Folks,

I was thinking that over the winter I would do a few new projects to my 2000 205V and one of the things I wanted to do is add a swivel stoop so I can turn the captains chair sideways. When we're not underway I am typically sitting in the captains chair sideways chattin with the crew and can get uncomfortable with my legs hanging over the side of the chair. I was also thinking about an option to raise and lower the seat for the days I just want my hair above the windshield in the wind. Also my wife is short and when all ballasted up the nose sits higher than she is comfortable with and sitting a few inches higher would make a big difference to her comfort at the helm.

I did a TT search but didn't turn up anything useful. Anyone know of a swivel stoop that has a low enough profile to sit fairly flat, will work in conjunction with the current slider and will raise 6-8"?

I was thinking I could remove the fiberglass base, and replace with a low profile hydraulic stoop (like they have on fishing boats). My other question after sourcing such a thing is how I bolt it to the floor so it is 100% secure? I don't want to just lag bolt it into the floor ... and I am not sure if I can reach it to thrubolt it if I remove the gas tank.

Has anyone done this?

I know I'm asking for a lot but any ideas would be appreciated!

Many thanks!

Miss Rita
01-12-2011, 12:02 AM
I know you can get a combination swivel/slider, but I don't know how you would get one that goes up and down as well. You may have to settle for the traditional throw cushion booster.

Wake2004
01-12-2011, 12:59 AM
I have always thought that it would be nice to have a swivel also but I do not think the seat will clear the side wall to be able to swivel.

dpolen
01-12-2011, 03:32 PM
Are you thinking about something like this?
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=39860&pdesc=Wise_Adjustable_Pedestal_With_Slide&aID=601C7&merchID=4006

I think it's a heck of an idea as I am always sitting on the throw cushion in my boat, never thought about buying a pedestal that raised the seat height.

2000205V
01-12-2011, 04:09 PM
Are you thinking about something like this?
http://www.overtons.com/modperl/product/details.cgi?i=39860&pdesc=Wise_Adjustable_Pedestal_With_Slide&aID=601C7&merchID=4006

I think it's a heck of an idea as I am always sitting on the throw cushion in my boat, never thought about buying a pedestal that raised the seat height.


That's PERFECT and exactly what I had in mind!! 12" is a bit high, but I wonder if I could get it and modify to fit my needs without interfering with the lift. I used to work in a machine shop and have access to a TIG welder at home. For 109$ the price is right and would be willing to try even if it's an experiment! Thank you!

Something I was thinking about the base last night after I posted, is removing the stock fiberglass base, and replacing it with a piece of plate aluminum that sits on the floor with the same mounting points as the current base and I could possibly use the existing studs/brackets/etc and build and mount the new pedestal off that. Does anyone know how the stock base attaches to the floor? It must be more than just screwed into fiberglass?

My boat is laid up for the winter in my boathouse and access to it today is tough to take the seat apart to see. Was hoping for some warmer weather and for some of the snow to melt before venturing out there.

As far as allowing the seat to swivel, I think it can work if there is a slider. When you go to turn it it will need to be slid out slightly so the back of the seat clears the throttle and side of the boat.

Some interesting challenges ahead but I have hope I can get this worked out. I refuse to put anything on the boat that isn't 100% safe, looks stock and professional.

Thanks again, and all opinions and comments are welcomed.

ddanenberger
01-12-2011, 04:15 PM
look at garelick "http://garelick.com/product.php?pnumber=75083" this is a slide swile assemble that mount on a standard pedestal. I used it in our old Regal. Bought a 8" pedistal and cut in down to the height I wanted. The set screw lock works better than the gear type.

rydog
10-05-2014, 08:40 AM
Was going to start a new thread but found this one. I was wondering if since this thread started if anyone has attempted this or found a specific part number to accomplish this goal. I want to do this to my 2002 xstar, since like everyone else, I am constantly hanging my feet over the side arm rest. I am thinking using the existing brackets, attaching a metal plate to them and then drilling holes into the to attach the swivel mount. Any information is appreciated.

Also the concern of the chair not being able to rotate because of space. Has anyone confirmed this?

swatguy
10-05-2014, 09:03 AM
Couple things

The fiberglass seat base is in the mold. It's not removeable

In almost every smaller v drive boat with a swivel chair you always needed to slide the chair forward in most cases(me being 6ft tall) to clear the sidewall. So I think clearing the sidewall would be no problem if you kept the slide rails

I ant help ya on how to exactly accomplish that thogh

Columbia Queens
02-04-2016, 07:20 PM
How is your project coming along? I am interested in retrofitting my 2014 X10 with their new Captain's chair, which I think, is what you are doing. Wondering if you have had success and how you solved the issues of space.

Master craft noted that the replacement seat "wouldn't fit" because of it unadjustable size (meaning you would have to slide it forward or back when turned sideways which it isn't designed to do) There was also a height issue.

If you could update me I'd appreciate it.




Hey Folks,

I was thinking that over the winter I would do a few new projects to my 2000 205V and one of the things I wanted to do is add a swivel stoop so I can turn the captains chair sideways. When we're not underway I am typically sitting in the captains chair sideways chattin with the crew and can get uncomfortable with my legs hanging over the side of the chair. I was also thinking about an option to raise and lower the seat for the days I just want my hair above the windshield in the wind. Also my wife is short and when all ballasted up the nose sits higher than she is comfortable with and sitting a few inches higher would make a big difference to her comfort at the helm.

I did a TT search but didn't turn up anything useful. Anyone know of a swivel stoop that has a low enough profile to sit fairly flat, will work in conjunction with the current slider and will raise 6-8"?

I was thinking I could remove the fiberglass base, and replace with a low profile hydraulic stoop (like they have on fishing boats). My other question after sourcing such a thing is how I bolt it to the floor so it is 100% secure? I don't want to just lag bolt it into the floor ... and I am not sure if I can reach it to thrubolt it if I remove the gas tank.

Has anyone done this?

I know I'm asking for a lot but any ideas would be appreciated!

Many thanks!

tph
02-22-2018, 07:33 PM
It can be done. It's not easy or inexpensive.

lakedrum03
02-22-2018, 08:10 PM
It can be done. It's not easy or inexpensive.


TPH: I want to do this to mine. Are planning to do a write up for those of us with less vision?

jlane330
02-22-2018, 11:45 PM
It can be done. It's not easy or inexpensive.

That looks great. I'd appreciate more info as well. Does the seat go back as far as it used to with the stock slides? At 6'2", I need the leg room.

One of my stock sliders is cracked, so eliminating those would be nice. Thanks in advance for any help. Well done!

tph
02-23-2018, 02:15 PM
That looks great. I'd appreciate more info as well. Does the seat go back as far as it used to with the stock slides? At 6'2", I need the leg room.

One of my stock sliders is cracked, so eliminating those would be nice. Thanks in advance for any help. Well done!

My stock sliders cracked as well. I think the seat puts too much stress on them in the extended positions. By measurement, the seat does go back approximately as far as the stock slides but you lose the 8 degree lean back that the base provides. This gives you a more upright sitting position which feels a bit less spacious. I'm about 6' tall and I think it will be OK for me. I'm not sure about drivers with much longer legs.

VP46
02-23-2018, 11:11 PM
cleanest 205 around I bet - but those crumbs at the base of the seat on the rubber seal YIKES! ;)

tph
02-23-2018, 11:41 PM
That looks great. I'd appreciate more info as well. Does the seat go back as far as it used to with the stock slides? At 6'2", I need the leg room.

One of my stock sliders is cracked, so eliminating those would be nice. Thanks in advance for any help. Well done!

Here's a pic with the seat all the way back:

tph
02-24-2018, 12:06 AM
cleanest 205 around I bet - but those crumbs at the base of the seat on the rubber seal YIKES! ;)

I know, I have to work on that!

jlane330
02-24-2018, 01:03 AM
Here's a pic with the seat all the way back:

Thanks! My boat is in storage, so it'll be a while before I can compare my stock setup. Can you list the slide and rotary base you used?

lakedrum03
02-24-2018, 07:42 AM
Thanks! My boat is in storage, so it'll be a while before I can compare my stock setup. Can you list the slide and rotary base you used?

Yes please and also the black "wedge" piece.

jakethebt
02-24-2018, 09:37 AM
So you had to add the wedge to eliminate the 8 degree lean back so when you rotated the seat it would be level?

tph
02-24-2018, 10:47 AM
So you had to add the wedge to eliminate the 8 degree lean back so when you rotated the seat it would be level?

Yes, You could also add a wedge under the slider, but then you would lose the 2" rise as you pulled the seat forward.

curver900
02-24-2018, 12:12 PM
Yes, You could also add a wedge under the slider, but then you would lose the 2" rise as you pulled the seat forward.

so did you make the part or did you buy it somewhere? It looks like someone sells it? the slider base and swivel??? Maybe I missed it...

tph
02-24-2018, 01:48 PM
so did you make the part or did you buy it somewhere? It looks like someone sells it? the slider base and swivel??? Maybe I missed it...

Slider and Swivel were purchased. I fabricated other parts from Starboard, ABS and 1/2" aluminum plate. Special fasteners are required for some of the assembly.

curver900
02-24-2018, 03:05 PM
like this one?
https://www.iboats.com/shop/garelick-low-profile-seat-slide-locking-swivel.html?cm_mmc=&msclkid=baceae7d832f1bb93a68f4ec464f8ab9&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping&utm_term=4581871112700644&utm_content=All%20Products%3AShopping

tph
02-24-2018, 08:30 PM
like this one?
https://www.iboats.com/shop/garelick-low-profile-seat-slide-locking-swivel.html?cm_mmc=&msclkid=baceae7d832f1bb93a68f4ec464f8ab9&utm_source=bing&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=Shopping&utm_term=4581871112700644&utm_content=All%20Products%3AShopping

It looks like the slider is the same as the one I used, but the swivel portion will only work if you put a wedge between it and the slider or between the base and the slider/swivel combination. Also, I think that swivel adds 2- 2.5 inches of height. The one I used only adds 1".

lakedrum03
02-25-2018, 12:19 AM
Do you have some dimensions of the wedge?

gwozhog
02-25-2018, 01:23 AM
Always looking to upgrade my seat. would be nice to have a swivel. I did this last summer. 6inch booty lift with some rectangular aluminum tubing. Easiest boat I have ever driven pulling a surfer now that I can see over the window with out sitting on a bunch of throw cushions.. Cold as sh$t in the winter though. Love to see what you guys come up with.

curver900
02-25-2018, 05:54 PM
for a $130 bucks I will give it a try.. looks simple enough...

tph
02-25-2018, 07:37 PM
Do you have some dimensions of the wedge?

2 Wedges:
1 3/16" on one end 3/16" on the other, 6 3/4" long, 1 1/2" wide. See Pic below.

tph
02-25-2018, 07:52 PM
Here are some of the parts I used. There is also a 7" X 7" square of 1/2" Starboard on top of the wedges and a 8" X 14" piece of 1/2" aluminum mounted to the seat and swivel. I bought a cheap cutting board and used it to get the location of the holes just right before drilling the aluminum. If you use this swivel you will need elevator bolts (see picture) for the lower mounting through the wedges into the slider. The clearance is very tight. Also, make sure that the swivel you use is rated for driver seat installation.

tph
02-25-2018, 09:45 PM
Here's the "cutting board" template for the aluminum seat base.

jlane330
02-25-2018, 11:57 PM
My stock sliders cracked as well. I think the seat puts too much stress on them in the extended positions. By measurement, the seat does go back approximately as far as the stock slides but you lose the 8 degree lean back that the base provides. This gives you a more upright sitting position which feels a bit less spacious. I'm about 6' tall and I think it will be OK for me. I'm not sure about drivers with much longer legs.

What year of 205V do you have? Reason I ask is that I believe my seats sliders are already parallel to the floor. I don't think my seat raises as it slides forward, it's always the same height. This means that the seat would be tipped at the stock angle with your sliders/rotation mount.

I found some pics of what mine look like (based on memory, see post #6): http://www.mastercraft.com/teamtalk/showthread.php?t=62844

Wish I had my boat here so I could look at it in person.

tph
02-26-2018, 01:17 AM
It's a 2000 205V. My stock set-up looked very much like the one in Pic #6. It's hard to tell from the picture if the base is slanted or not.

lakedrum03
02-26-2018, 07:26 AM
TPH - Are you able to rotate the seat without hitting the gunnel?

curver900
02-26-2018, 09:14 AM
Here are some of the parts I used. There is also a 7" X 7" square of 1/2" Starboard on top of the wedges and a 8" X 14" piece of 1/2" aluminum mounted to the seat and swivel. I bought a cheap cutting board and used it to get the location of the holes just right before drilling the aluminum. If you use this swivel you will need elevator bolts (see picture) for the lower mounting through the wedges into the slider. The clearance is very tight. Also, make sure that the swivel you use is rated for driver seat installation.

Thank you for the follow up... I will be doing this with my new floor.. darn it just when I thought I was all done.. next year new interior.. :cool:

lakedrum03
02-26-2018, 10:09 AM
Did you use the 75081 (7" travel) or the 75091 (5" travel)?

tph
02-26-2018, 10:33 AM
Did you use the 75081 (7" travel) or the 75091 (5" travel)?

(7" travel) and I moved the rear stop screw to get as much distance away from the dash as possible. (See Below) This does allow the slide to cantilever off the back but it still seems strong.

tph
02-26-2018, 10:35 AM
TPH - Are you able to rotate the seat without hitting the gunnel?

Yes, there is about 1" clearance.