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Viktimize
12-17-2010, 10:56 AM
Any Canadians here that have imported a boat from the states?? I found a boat that I am interested in, and I am trying to figure out everything I need before heading down to pick it up. I tried Riv.ca, but I didn't find any info on boats, just road vehicles. Any links or info would be great. Did a few searches, and all I could find here was a few vague posts from 2005.

I am pretty sure I need the title in hand. The boat I am looking at still has a lien on it. The plan is to go down and inspect the boat, then have my bank wire the money directly to the account for the loan. The boat should then be lien free, but I am wondering how long it will take to get a clear title in hand?? Can this all be done in one day??

I plan to enter through the BC border, but I can go through the Alberta border if it is easier, plus that is where the boat will be registered anyway.

scott023
12-17-2010, 11:01 AM
You do need the title in hand... if you contact the seller prior to going down (give exact dates of travel to ensure the title is there), the bank will be able to have the title there for you and once the money is transfered they can hand it over. Just had a friend do this at the end of this season, so I'm sure nothing has changed since Septmeber.

Jorski
12-17-2010, 11:04 AM
I brought my prostar up to Canada about 7 years ago.

It couldn't be easier.

All you need is the sales receipt. You pay (in Ontario) GST and PST at the boarder...and fill out some paperwork and that is it.

Later, when you go to get the get the boat licensed, you take the paperwork that they gave you at the border, and your receipt to the ministry offoce and you are good to go.

To get the trailer licensed (again- in Ontario. It may be different in B.C.), all that was needed was the trailer serial number and proof of ownership.

Good Luck!

One thing that comes to mind, is that you need some sort of license plate for the trailer while bringing the boat home. The way we did it was the dealer lent me one of his dealer plates; then i sent it back to him when I got home. You could also go to a licensing office where you get the boat and get a temporary travel plate.

CottagerGreg
12-17-2010, 11:19 AM
It's a simple process. There is more hassle with the trailer than the boat. RIV.ca has all the information on the trailer. Trailer will need to get inspected once you paid your taxes and such at the border. THen you can get it plated in your province.

Viktimize
12-17-2010, 11:57 AM
Thanks for the info!!

TX.X-30 fan
12-17-2010, 12:11 PM
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xbot50000
12-17-2010, 02:11 PM
I just brought a boat back this summer. You need two bills of sale - 1 for the boat, one for the trailer. You will also need proof of ownership for both - titles / or licenses. Make sure you don't fudge the numbers on the bills of sale. They will search the internet, call places, they'll check wallets, cell phones, anything to find the true value of the boat.

At the border you'll have to pay Provincial tax, or HST, plus a RIV fee for the trailer. That's it.

Once in Canada you have to register the boat with the Federal Gov - bill of sale is usually enough. Then you have 45 days to get the trailer inspected and get your RIV form signed off. It's pretty easy as long as the serial number is easily readable. Then once all that's done you can get a license plate for the trailer. You need the Bill of Sale and a title document. If the state you bought it from doesn't title trailers, you need the license plate paperwork signed over to you.

It's easy, but it's pretty annoying if you don't get everything exactly perfect.

xbot50000
12-17-2010, 02:25 PM
About your lien question - usually it can not be completed in one day unless you are paying in cash. If you are paying with a money order or bank draft, those require up to two weeks to clear. The Bank will not issue the title document until the draft has cleared - for fear of fraud. Also ask for a termination of lien statement when the Bank gives you the title doc. Might also be worth checking that there is only one lien holder.

xbot50000
12-17-2010, 02:28 PM
Also, I don't think Banks will send large wire payments across the border due to money laundering concerns.

east tx skier
12-17-2010, 02:40 PM
I sold my boat to a Canadian buyer. Wiring the purchase price and deposit was not a problem. Title, and bills of sale for boat and trailer. No problems for him as far as I remember.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-17-2010, 02:53 PM
Definitely a place to have all your ducks in a row. Anything not right and the bus is stopping right now. I used to ship stuff to Canada. No big deal once you have it all figured out. Much easier the second and third time. Not much help on a one time boat sale.

Viktimize
12-17-2010, 03:35 PM
Thanks xbot!! Nice and detailed, pretty much exactly what I was looking for.

kz32sy
12-18-2010, 10:45 AM
I followed the advice given on this this website:

http://boating.ncf.ca/buy-usa.html

91ps190
12-18-2010, 11:08 AM
It's a simple process. Just make sure to have the paperwork ready. They only care about the trailer (for the inspection) and the tax grab. Make sure you bring the receipt for your wire transfer as well.

yippikaiyay
12-18-2010, 12:13 PM
An excellent thread for us Canadians!
I haven't brought a boat across the border, but I did buy a used boat trailer. And one item that I didn't research before the purchase, was insurance. I've been told since buy another buyer, that some vehicle/boat insurance may not cover boats/trailers until they are inspected in Canada.
I have to confess I haven't looked further into it as yet, but if I ever buy in US, I'll be sure to contact my insurance company to make sure of the coverage.

TX.X-30 fan
12-18-2010, 01:23 PM
It's a simple process. Just make sure to have the paperwork ready. They only care about the trailer (for the inspection) and the tax grab. Make sure you bring the receipt for your wire transfer as well.




Can you do a second bill of sale for the tax thieves showing a much lower sales price ?

Viktimize
12-18-2010, 03:25 PM
Can you do a second bill of sale for the tax thieves showing a much lower sales price ?


For the tiny amount of money you might save yourself, I wouldn't risk it. As it was said, they will want to see receipt for your money transfer, which will tell them what you paid anyway. If there is a discrepency between the wire transfer and BOS, you will set yourself up for a real headache.

TX.X-30 fan
12-18-2010, 04:32 PM
They will ask to see personal banking records from a citizen in Canada to verify what you are spending for purchases?? So your saying a bill of sale for a cash purchase would not satisfy the border tax man?

Viktimize
12-18-2010, 04:48 PM
They will ask to see personal banking records from a citizen in Canada to verify what you are spending for purchases?? So your saying a bill of sale for a cash purchase would not satisfy the border tax man?


Make sure you bring the receipt for your wire transfer as well.


Regardless if it is true or not. Why would you risk tax fraud, just to save yourself a couple hundred bucks?? Hardly seems worth it to me. But I guess we all have our own ideas on worth.

And even if you made a cash purchase, you should still have some paperwork from bringing such a large sum of cash through the border to begin with. And if you somehow managed to get cash from a bank in the states after arriving, you would still have a transaction record from that withdrawl.

TX.X-30 fan
12-18-2010, 05:10 PM
Regardless if it is true or not. Why would you risk tax fraud, just to save yourself a couple hundred bucks?? Hardly seems worth it to me. But I guess we all have our own ideas on worth.

And even if you made a cash purchase, you should still have some paperwork from bringing such a large sum of cash through the border to begin with. And if you somehow managed to get cash from a bank in the states after arriving, you would still have a transaction record from that withdrawl.




Not my point, I don't expect to have to share personal information that is none of the govt's business. Just my opinion and most likely because I grew up not accustomed to socialism and all that it entails. Believe me I certainly pay my fair share.

One thing I have never been a big fan of though is taxing the same item multiple times, just seems immoral on many levels but as sheep we all just follow and do as we are told.:D

east tx skier
12-18-2010, 05:40 PM
You're both right. Yes, you can do it. No, it doesn't seem worth the trouble of what little you will save in taxes. Kind of like trying to register your trailer as "homemade" in Texas.

Viktimize
12-18-2010, 07:29 PM
Not my point, I don't expect to have to share personal information that is none of the govt's business. Just my opinion and most likely because I grew up not accustomed to socialism and all that it entails. Believe me I certainly pay my fair share.

One thing I have never been a big fan of though is taxing the same item multiple times, just seems immoral on many levels but as sheep we all just follow and do as we are told.:D

You're completely right, it is BS. But it seems you're missing my point too, you need to pick your battles. And risking jail time to save a few hundred bucks, doesn't seem like a battle worth my time personally. By all means, get a BOS written up for cheaper if you want. Then show up at the border and tell them you have no other records with you. You're a lot more likely to get through with a boat, than with a car. But if you don't get through, don't say you weren't forwarned.

Jorski
12-18-2010, 07:30 PM
No..TX...nothing socialist going on here, but good to see that you stand on guard for thee!!

They have a lot of reference material available to compare to your stated price . If they deem that you are way off, they have the power to charge the tax at the market value of the goods.

Try showing up at the border with 1 year old X-80 and then show them a piece of paper that says that you paid $5,000 for it and you likely won't get away with it.

On the other hand, when i brought my boat over, the border guard that I declared my purchase to, was more irritated that she would have to some extra paper work. Honestly, think I could have driven right through without saying anything...but really, it's not worth the risk.

xbot50000
12-18-2010, 08:42 PM
Since the Cdn and US dollar is almost at par, the number of vehicles being imported from the US is increasing tremendously. The government sees this as an opportunity to grab as much tax money as they can. The regulations and requirements to import a vehicle have also become much more strict.

Jim@BAWS
12-18-2010, 09:25 PM
They will ask to see personal banking records from a citizen in Canada to verify what you are spending for purchases?? So your saying a bill of sale for a cash purchase would not satisfy the border tax man?

CANADA IS CLOSER THAN THE U.S. TO SOCIALISM...Not to be offensive it is just a truism

Thank goodness for the last election. We where catching you at a very rapid rate!!!

wheelerd
12-19-2010, 03:05 AM
I purchased both my MC's (as well as three Trans Ams) in the U.S. To reinforce and add to a couple of points made above:

- US Border Patrol's requirement to fax copies of title and B of S to your exit border crossing 72 hours prior applies ONLY to self-propelled vehicles, not trailers. Don't sweat it. You do not have to stop at the US side on your way through.
- If you are purchasing from a state that does not title boats and/or trailers, try to find and print off some proof of this from the state's DMV site. I was hassled by a young-buck border agent at the Coutts crossing who demanded to see the title for a boat I purchased in Tennessee. He was adamant that I should have one. Fortunately, a more seasoned officer next to him at the counter overheard the conversation and told him to "Look over there in that book." He did, and grudgingly said, "Alright, I guess you're OK."
- If you are purchasing an older trailer be sure the VIN sticker is legible since it could be checked at the border. If it is not you can order a replacement VIN tag from Mastercraft. (I did this for my TriStar trailer.)
- With my three car imports, the agents came out and visually verified the VIN's (and in one case, put the vehicle through a 2-hour inspection, complete with camera probe in the gas tank.) With my two boats, neither the boat HIN or the trailer VIN were visually verified. In one case, the guy just looked out the window and said, "Is that your boat there?" I had about $1000 worth of gear that I had purchased in the boat -- and which I had declared -- but he didn't check it.
- As mentioned in other posts, don't screw around with the B of S. They border guys can find the original ad on Ebay or Boatrader or wherever faster than you can say "Impound my boat and truck." In any case, shouldn't honesty be the first response? I always carried a copy of the ad and a print out of the NADA value in case they wanted to see it.
- You do need two separate bills of sale -- one for the boat, one for the trailer -- since Canada Customs and RIV treats them separately. Discuss with your vendor BEFORE you finalize the paperwork how you want to split the total price. I did some checking online to see what trailers alone were going for and then used that as a guideline. So, a $20,000 total price might end up as $17,500 and $2500.
- For most of my US purchases I had the B of S notarized. It's not mandatory and is a bit of extra work but is cheap insurance if you encounter an ornery boarder agent.
- Bank transfers can take a long time. Plan ahead. My second boat came from Nebraska. I sent a bank draft by courier. It took the seller's bank 2 weeks to clear it -- they didn't know what a bank draft was! Remember, many of the American banks are small, individual institutions that do not have the international networking that our big, national banks have.
- If you are buying from a dealer, check his state's policy on sales tax. I know that some states do not require sales tax if the boat is going out-of-state.
- I've towed both my boats home personally. I didn't worry about state-to-state permits for the trailer but I did purchase a separate insurance rider on my policy for the boats before I left home.
- If you DO tow your boat home, take a tool box and DO check the wheel bearings! I cooked a bearing and almost lost a wheel just outside of Sioux Falls, SD.

Feel free to PM me with any questions you might have.

wheelerd
12-19-2010, 03:09 AM
CANADA IS CLOSER THAN THE U.S. TO SOCIALISM...Not to be offensive it is just a truism

Thank goodness for the last election. We where catching you at a very rapid rate!!!

You mean the recent mid-terms? Watching from this side of the border that's the picture I get.
Your Republican/Democrat dichotomy is like our Conservative/Liberal(plus New Democrats) split,

Jorski
12-19-2010, 12:21 PM
CANADA IS CLOSER THAN THE U.S. TO SOCIALISM...Not to be offensive it is just a truism

Funny though, that we weren't the ones running around bailing out the banks, the brokerages and the GSE's..."too big to fail" is equivalent to socialism.

I won't even begin to address government spending, government debt, manufactured 30 year mortgage rates (effectively guaranteed by the government), government subsidizing of home buying through mortgage deductibility etc., etc., etc.

Not quite a "truism:...and no offense taken;)

nidus72
12-19-2010, 05:13 PM
Hi,

I imported my PS205 from TN this past summer to Ontario. I can confirm most of what people said above. Here are my top tips.

1) Make sure you have a copy of all financial transaction for the boarder. I paid via wire transfer before seeing the boat and you can't bring more than $10,000 cash into the States so the first question the american boarder guy asked was how did you pay for the boat and I showed him the wire transfer from RBC as well as the Craigslist add for the cost.

2) You don't need 2 separate receipts, but make sure you get the receipt itemized for how much you paid for the boat vs. the trailer. In Ontario you only paid 1 tax on one item and both on the other. With HST I don't think this really matters anymore?

3) Make sure you know if the State your getting the boat/trailer from is a Non-title State or not! TN does not license boats or trailers which was a bit of an issue. I had the seller get a notarized receipt and I also printed off the section on the TN website where it stated that they don't title. At the boarder (Sarnia) Canadian Customs wanted to see the titles. Their little cheat sheet said I should have them. After showing my proof (print off from the State website) they agreed that their info was wrong. I paid the GST, PST and I was through the boarder in 15 minutes. They didn't even come out and look at the boat! Apparently I have hear of other who had issues since the VIN was not readable on the trailer. Mine was not either and I took a chance. Since then I have contacted MC and they sent me a new VIN plate for the trailer.

4) I had the trailer inspected at Canadian Tire for the RIV component which is a joke and basically a $200 cash grab. With my RIV form in hand I went to get the plates for the trailer. At this point I had issues. Basically MTO (Ministry of Transportation) outsourced the licensing portion of their business and the clerks were clueless. They said I needed a title from TN (which is impossible) and would not license the trailer. They called their head office in TO and they also claimed I needed some kind of proof on the trailer. In their mind the notarized receipt was not good enough and they did not accept the print off from the State website. I went to another licensing depot had the same issue. I was about to give up and just register the trailer as home made, but tried a 3rd licensing centre with fresh print off from the FAQ section of the TN website stating no title are issued. 3rd time was a charm and the local guy accepted the paperwork even though the guys in TO were still saying I needed something additional.

I got my additional sticker in the mail from RIV and it's all legit now.

I can also confirm that you DON"T have to stop on the american side of the boarder on the way back in. Just go to normal customs, declare you importing a boat for X thousand and they will point you to the inspection building where you will spend 10 mins or so before your on your way (assuming you have all your paper work in order).

I would strongly suggest the Notarized receipt since at the end of the day that's what saved me.

In terms of hassle, other than spending 4 or 5 hours researching it was painless. I had some good guys on this website who went to look at boats for me and I saved 30 - 40% versus buying local.

Dave

TX.X-30 fan
12-19-2010, 05:23 PM
Funny though, that we weren't the ones running around bailing out the banks, the brokerages and the GSE's..."too big to fail" is equivalent to socialism.

I won't even begin to address government spending, government debt, manufactured 30 year mortgage rates (effectively guaranteed by the government), government subsidizing of home buying through mortgage deductibility etc., etc., etc.

Not quite a "truism:...and no offense taken;)




If I may Jorski, that was a socialist/Marxist who did that and all the other failed stimulus crap. Not a very strong argument.

In fact The reason we got to that position with the Mtg. business was through socialist lending practices approved and administered by socialists/marxists within our congress.

Viktimize
12-19-2010, 05:31 PM
Hi,

I imported my PS205 from TN this past summer to Ontario. I can confirm most of what people said above. Here are my top tips.

1) Make sure you have a copy of all financial transaction for the boarder. I paid via wire transfer before seeing the boat and you can't bring more than $10,000 cash into the States so the first question the american boarder guy asked was how did you pay for the boat and I showed him the wire transfer from RBC as well as the Craigslist add for the cost.

2) You don't need 2 separate receipts, but make sure you get the receipt itemized for how much you paid for the boat vs. the trailer. In Ontario you only paid 1 tax on one item and both on the other. With HST I don't think this really matters anymore?

3) Make sure you know if the State your getting the boat/trailer from is a Non-title State or not! TN does not license boats or trailers which was a bit of an issue. I had the seller get a notarized receipt and I also printed off the section on the TN website where it stated that they don't title. At the boarder (Sarnia) Canadian Customs wanted to see the titles. Their little cheat sheet said I should have them. After showing my proof (print off from the State website) they agreed that their info was wrong. I paid the GST, PST and I was through the boarder in 15 minutes. They didn't even come out and look at the boat! Apparently I have hear of other who had issues since the VIN was not readable on the trailer. Mine was not either and I took a chance. Since then I have contacted MC and they sent me a new VIN plate for the trailer.

4) I had the trailer inspected at Canadian Tire for the RIV component which is a joke and basically a $200 cash grab. With my RIV form in hand I went to get the plates for the trailer. At this point I had issues. Basically MTO (Ministry of Transportation) outsourced the licensing portion of their business and the clerks were clueless. They said I needed a title from TN (which is impossible) and would not license the trailer. They called their head office in TO and they also claimed I needed some kind of proof on the trailer. In their mind the notarized receipt was not good enough and they did not accept the print off from the State website. I went to another licensing depot had the same issue. I was about to give up and just register the trailer as home made, but tried a 3rd licensing centre with fresh print off from the FAQ section of the TN website stating no title are issued. 3rd time was a charm and the local guy accepted the paperwork even though the guys in TO were still saying I needed something additional.

I got my additional sticker in the mail from RIV and it's all legit now.

I can also confirm that you DON"T have to stop on the american side of the boarder on the way back in. Just go to normal customs, declare you importing a boat for X thousand and they will point you to the inspection building where you will spend 10 mins or so before your on your way (assuming you have all your paper work in order).

I would strongly suggest the Notarized receipt since at the end of the day that's what saved me.

In terms of hassle, other than spending 4 or 5 hours researching it was painless. I had some good guys on this website who went to look at boats for me and I saved 30 - 40% versus buying local.

Dave

Awesome post!! Thanks!! This is the part that worries me, is sending money before seeing the boat. Did you just make a new thread here, asking for someone to check out a boat for you?? That would save me a ton of hassle if I could have someone local inspect it, I could send the money which would ensure that the title would be cleared before I arrive.

TX.X-30 fan
12-19-2010, 05:32 PM
Hi,

I imported my PS205 from TN this past summer to Ontario. I can confirm most of what people said above. Here are my top tips.

1) Make sure you have a copy of all financial transaction for the boarder. I paid via wire transfer before seeing the boat and you can't bring more than $10,000 cash into the States so the first question the american boarder guy asked was how did you pay for the boat and I showed him the wire transfer from RBC as well as the Craigslist add for the cost.

2) You don't need 2 separate receipts, but make sure you get the receipt itemized for how much you paid for the boat vs. the trailer. In Ontario you only paid 1 tax on one item and both on the other. With HST I don't think this really matters anymore?

3) Make sure you know if the State your getting the boat/trailer from is a Non-title State or not! TN does not license boats or trailers which was a bit of an issue. I had the seller get a notarized receipt and I also printed off the section on the TN website where it stated that they don't title. At the boarder (Sarnia) Canadian Customs wanted to see the titles. Their little cheat sheet said I should have them. After showing my proof (print off from the State website) they agreed that their info was wrong. I paid the GST, PST and I was through the boarder in 15 minutes. They didn't even come out and look at the boat! Apparently I have hear of other who had issues since the VIN was not readable on the trailer. Mine was not either and I took a chance. Since then I have contacted MC and they sent me a new VIN plate for the trailer.

4) I had the trailer inspected at Canadian Tire for the RIV component which is a joke and basically a $200 cash grab. With my RIV form in hand I went to get the plates for the trailer. At this point I had issues. Basically MTO (Ministry of Transportation) outsourced the licensing portion of their business and the clerks were clueless. They said I needed a title from TN (which is impossible) and would not license the trailer. They called their head office in TO and they also claimed I needed some kind of proof on the trailer. In their mind the notarized receipt was not good enough and they did not accept the print off from the State website. I went to another licensing depot had the same issue. I was about to give up and just register the trailer as home made, but tried a 3rd licensing centre with fresh print off from the FAQ section of the TN website stating no title are issued. 3rd time was a charm and the local guy accepted the paperwork even though the guys in TO were still saying I needed something additional.

I got my additional sticker in the mail from RIV and it's all legit now.

I can also confirm that you DON"T have to stop on the american side of the boarder on the way back in. Just go to normal customs, declare you importing a boat for X thousand and they will point you to the inspection building where you will spend 10 mins or so before your on your way (assuming you have all your paper work in order).

I would strongly suggest the Notarized receipt since at the end of the day that's what saved me.

In terms of hassle, other than spending 4 or 5 hours researching it was painless. I had some good guys on this website who went to look at boats for me and I saved 30 - 40% versus buying local.

Dave






That all sounds so easy.................

TX.X-30 fan
12-19-2010, 05:33 PM
Awesome post!! Thanks!! This is the part that worries me, is sending money before seeing the boat. Did you just make a new thread here, asking for someone to check out a boat for you?? That would save me a ton of hassle if I could have someone local inspect it, I could send the money which would ensure that the title would be cleared before I arrive.




That is a sweet looking boat!!! Good luck.

Jorski
12-19-2010, 06:15 PM
If I may Jorski, that was a socialist/Marxist who did that and all the other failed stimulus crap. Not a very strong argument.

In fact The reason we got to that position with the Mtg. business was through socialist lending practices approved and administered by socialists/marxists within our congress.

But...if I may...we, in Canada, had no such occurrence.

TX.X-30 fan
12-19-2010, 06:52 PM
.

But...if I may...we, in Canada, had no such occurrence.




And I commend your parliaments and bankers for not bowing to pressures from groups to redistribute wealth in the name of compassion. Bravo Canada!!!!!!!!!!!

Jorski
12-19-2010, 07:15 PM
Two quick points about the importing post above:

1) You certainly can bring more than $10,000 into the United States, you just have to declare it when you enter...though, I have no idea why anyone would travel with that much cash.

2) If you are worried about sending money in advance of seeing the boat (which is understandable)...you can bring a bank draft with you and if come back without the boat the money can be deposited back into your account.

Muttley
12-20-2010, 11:40 AM
I brought my PS205 up from Washington into BC. It's easier than it seems. Here's how it went for me:

Separate titles and bills of sale for boat and trailer.

Stopped at the border. Stood in line for an hour, then spent 15 minutes at the window. I paid GST and PST on the boat, only GST on the trailer (they get the trailer PST when you insure it. That's different now with the HST). They came out and looked at the trailer sticker.

Took the boat home. Evidently the tags are good for 24 hours once you cross the border.

Took the bill of sale and title to Service Canada (I think the CBSA might do it now) and they gave me my new hull numbers.

Took the bill of sale and title to my insurance broker and insured the trailer. No inspection necessary.

Had the new HIN on the boat by Saturday. Went skiing.

nidus72
12-20-2010, 04:38 PM
Hi,

To answer your question, YES, I just started a new post looking for help with a local inspection of a used boat. I had some helpful members look a a few different boats for me. There is so much that can be hidden with photos but the reports from the guys who were willing to spend a bit of time for me were priceless!

In terms of payment, the guy I bought from would not accept a bank draft since it's one of those things that likely hard to prove it's real. I've had a few certified cheques from RBC and they don't look all that impressive.

If you do a wire transfer like I did, you can cancel it within 72 hours! So, I made arrangement with the seller to send me the original boat licence, keys etc. via FedEx and planned to cancel the wire transfer if nothing showed up. Obviously there is a level of trust that has to be there on a long distance transaction like this!

I didn't even go pick it up myself! I paid another member who hauls boats on the side to go to TN and pull the boat back to MI for me. It saved me an 18 hour drive and he dropped it off at a MasterCraft dealer for me. They gave it a once over, changed the oil etc., and kept the boat for a few days till I took the 8 hour drive down to pick her up.

All worked out well in the end, and as mentioned I saved 40%+ over buying locally in Ontario.

Dave

Viktimize
12-20-2010, 09:41 PM
Two quick points about the importing post above:


2) If you are worried about sending money in advance of seeing the boat (which is understandable)...you can bring a bank draft with you and if come back without the boat the money can be deposited back into your account.

The problem with this though in my case. Is the boat has a lien on it. Bank drafts take 5 days to clear sometimes. So I will not be able to use a bank draft, and receive a title right away.

wheelerd
12-20-2010, 10:19 PM
A couple things to add...

Muttley said he didn't need an inspection. True . . . for trailers (and any vehicle) that are over 15yrs old. Anything newer needs to go through the RIV program. Transport Canada only cares about the trailer since it has wheels.
Also, you don't get a new HIN for the boat. I think he means the new Canadian registration numbers that go on the bow.

My last boat had a lien on it so I made the bank draft payable to the seller AND the bank. I purchased the boat based only on pictures, but since it was an Ebay purchase it was covered by the $50,000 guarantee. But yes, sometimes in the end it is based on trust and intuition.

xbot50000
12-21-2010, 07:14 AM
Can you treat it like a house purchase, and have an independant third party keep the money in escrow for the 5 - 10 day clearing period?

Muttley
12-21-2010, 10:49 AM
A couple things to add...

Also, you don't get a new HIN for the boat. I think he means the new Canadian registration numbers that go on the bow.


Yes. Sorry for the confusion. We used to call them "K" numbers out of habit because here in the Lower Mainland they all used to start with "K". Now they all start with "BC".


Regarding the money, when I imported my bike I declared over $10K cash. It was a little intimidating because they counted the change in my pockets and even in the ashtray of the van. I was a bit worried for a while, but after about a half hour of grilling they let me go. I even showed them the CL ad. I thought it was pretty stupid because I could have taken half over, put it in a safety deposit box in Blaine, gone back and got the other half.

wheelerd
12-21-2010, 11:26 AM
Can you treat it like a house purchase, and have an independant third party keep the money in escrow for the 5 - 10 day clearing period?

Yes, I did that on a car that I purchased in Seattle. There is an escrow fee of course, and you have to arrange this all well in advance with the seller so that there are no surprises when you go down to pick up the boat or vehicle.

Also, if you are doing anything that requires a notarized signature -- B of S, title transfer, etc. -- be sure you know in advanced where you can get that done. Don't just rely on the seller when he says, "Oh ya, we'll find someplace." Call ahead yourself and make sure. This is particularly important if you are picking up on a weekend -- I found out the hard way!

TX.X-30 fan
12-21-2010, 12:11 PM
Yes. Sorry for the confusion. We used to call them "K" numbers out of habit because here in the Lower Mainland they all used to start with "K". Now they all start with "BC".


Regarding the money, when I imported my bike I declared over $10K cash. It was a little intimidating because they counted the change in my pockets and even in the ashtray of the van. I was a bit worried for a while, but after about a half hour of grilling they let me go. I even showed them the CL ad. I thought it was pretty stupid because I could have taken half over, put it in a safety deposit box in Blaine, gone back and got the other half.




Did you get a pat-down too??:D

scott023
12-21-2010, 12:58 PM
Did you get a pat-down too??:D

TSA runs the border crossings????? :D

sand2snow22
12-21-2010, 01:18 PM
I have ways to get across the border :)

TX.X-30 fan
12-21-2010, 05:39 PM
I have ways to get across the border :)




Wet-Back......:D

Muttley
12-22-2010, 10:49 AM
Did you get a pat-down too??:D

Actually, YES! :(

TX.X-30 fan
12-22-2010, 05:28 PM
Actually, YES! :(




I'm hoping for an "enhanced" pat-down for Christmas actually.......:D

Tuna Cowboy
12-22-2010, 08:17 PM
Need the title for the trailor...original one too....I croosed in Cootes AB with mine...had to leave it there..would not let me in with it.....

wheelerd
12-22-2010, 09:24 PM
What state did you buy the boat/trailer from? Was it a non-title state? If so they should have let the trailer in with B of S only. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I had a similar issue at Coutts with a border official who didn't know the policy -- my unit was from TN -- and I was almost refused entry. (Well, he said I could bring the boat in but not the trailer. I felt like asking him if he thought I should just drag the boat behind my truck or what?!?) Luckily, all turned out well. But when you're dealing with border officials, they are a law unto themselves at the point in time when then say Ya or Nay, no matter if you are actually right and they are wrong.

Muttley
12-23-2010, 10:09 AM
I'm hoping for an "enhanced" pat-down for Christmas actually.......:D

My butt puckered when he put on the latex gloves. :eek: Fortunately they were just for handling the money.

TX.X-30 fan
12-23-2010, 03:39 PM
My butt puckered when he put on the latex gloves. :eek: Fortunately they were just for handling the money.


:D:D




Never a pleasant sound to hear that glove snap against a wrist!!!!!!:D