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trickskier
12-05-2010, 10:28 AM
I find it hard to believe that he did not know what his father was doing!

In the wake of the NCAA's Wednesday decision that Auburn quarterback Cam Newton is eligible to play for now, the association Thursday defended the ruling, based on what is known in the case to this point. Nevertheless, new NCAA president Mark Emmert said he wants to strengthen the association's bylaws to discourage the behavior which led to the Newton controversy.The NCAA on Thursday defended its ruling on Cam Newton but said the case is not necessarily closed.

"We recognize that many people are outraged at the notion that a parent or anyone else could 'shop around' a student-athlete and there would possibly not be repercussions on the student-athlete's eligibility," Emmert said in a statement.

"I'm committed to further clarifying and strengthening our recruiting and amateurism rules so they promote appropriate behavior by students, parents, coaches and third parties. We will work aggressively with our members to amend our bylaws so that this type of behavior is not a part of intercollegiate athletics."

There has been concern voiced over the ruling. Southern California athletics director Pat Haden, whose team is banned from a bowl following an NCAA investigation centered on former Trojan Reggie Bush, was surprised by the decision. "In the Reggie Bush case, when the parent (did) something inappropriate, the kid and the school suffered," Haden was quoted by The Los Angeles Times.

Even Southeastern Conference Commissioner Mike Slive told USA TODAY on Wednesday, "There has to be a piece of legislation that holds people accountable, and, to the extent there might be a loophole, closes the loophole."
Kevin Lennon, the NCAA's vice president for academic and membership affairs, said there have been numerous cases resulting in the same type of ruling: a restoration of eligibility after a school declares a player ineligible following a rules violation.
"We did find a violation of our bylaws, and I wouldn't want that to be lost," Lennon said. "The reinstatement of a student-athlete begins with his or her culpability and other mitigating factors are looked at: Were benefits actually received, and what was the nature of the benefits?

"We have individuals and institutions who violate by-laws, and there are times when student-athletes have to go through the reinstament process," he said, noting that such instances are viewed on a case-by-case basis. There are lots of cases where there is not any withholding from participation."

Jo Potuto, a University of Nebraska law professor, former chair of the NCAA Committee on Infractions and the current president of the Division I-A Faculty Athletics Representatives, said she would have made a different call. "There isn't a perfect way to do it. If, in fact, the student-athlete didn't know anything about what was going on and you tell him he's ineligible to compete, it seems very unfair, even if it's his father who was doing it. And I suspect, if that's what they (the NCAA) had done, there would have been a spate of newspaper articles saying, 'How can this be fair?' You do it this way, and ... you've got a violation, and it may be a big violation, but it looks as though everybody is walking away with no consequence.

"I'm a former prosecutor, and I think, with regard to deterrence and trying to keep a handle on (such) these sorts of behavior, I would have come down the other way. ... It's tough, but I would lean toward deterrence."

The NCAA ruled Monday that a violation of its amateurism rules occurred when Newton's father, Cecil, and the owner of a scouting service (ex-Mississippi State player Kenny Rogers) marketed Cam Newton in a pay-to-play scheme while he was being recruited last year by Mississippi State.

Auburn declared Newton ineligible Tuesday and requested the NCAA reinstate him. There was not sufficient evidence at this point that Cam Newton or anyone at Auburn knew of the scheme, Lennon said. Lennon pointed out that action has been taken by the schools against Newton's father and Rogers. AU has limited Cecil Newton's access to its athletics department, and Rogers has been disassociated from MSU.

Also, the case is not necessarily closed. The NCAA's enforcement staff also has been involved in the probe, and that is a separate process from eligibility reinstatement. "Anything related to the institution is dealt with by the enforcement process," said Tom Hosty, a director of enforcement for the NCAA.

loeweb
12-07-2010, 09:08 AM
I personally think that if he were living the dream, and had done nothing wrong then his dad would not have been gagged by an attorney already. If you've done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide.

thatsmrmastercraft
12-07-2010, 09:25 AM
Probably will never know the real details, as in almost all news. If you don't say anything, it is much harder to say something stupid.

TX.X-30 fan
12-07-2010, 11:16 AM
Poster child for "amateur athletes" in college football.

helton333
12-07-2010, 12:38 PM
SEC ain't going to do anything until they are assured of not loosing 17 million in tv rights by his playing for a National Championship. I'm an SEC fan, but to think that the father was acting independently of the son here is just ridiculous -

thatsmrmastercraft
12-07-2010, 01:33 PM
SEC ain't going to do anything until they are assured of not loosing 17 million in tv rights by his playing for a National Championship. I'm an SEC fan, but to think that the father was acting independently of the son here is just ridiculous -

.............just hoping for plausible deniability.

stuartmcnair
12-07-2010, 02:05 PM
SEC ain't going to do anything until they are assured of not loosing 17 million in tv rights by his playing for a National Championship. I'm an SEC fan, but to think that the father was acting independently of the son here is just ridiculous -

this is it in a nutshell...Slive admitted he broke SEC bylaws but it was a bylaw that had never been enforced so "why start now".

scott023
12-07-2010, 05:42 PM
The whole situation is a complete joke, and another black eye for the SEC.

trickskier
12-07-2010, 06:31 PM
Poster child for "amateur athletes" in college football.

Courtsey of his "OWN" father...................8p

trickskier
12-07-2010, 06:34 PM
The whole situation is a complete joke, and another black eye for the SEC.

The SEC doesn't have any more "Blackeyes" than an other conference --- PAC-10 -- USC - Only Heisman Trophy to ever be rescinded ;)

TX.X-30 fan
12-07-2010, 06:54 PM
Its all corrupt and the way it is now it is rampant in high schools, coaches cheating, allowing the players to skip drug tests, importing underprivileged players and on an on. When we see whats going on in high school now with coaches pay and flagrant rules violations its hard to believe people don't say enough is enough.

ksdaoski
12-07-2010, 06:55 PM
The SEC doesn't have any more "Blackeyes" than an other conference --- PAC-10 -- USC - Only Heisman Trophy to ever be rescinded ;)

that will change in 1-3yrs!

TX.X-30 fan
12-07-2010, 06:55 PM
Courtsey of his "OWN" father...................8p




I do find it hard to believe both were not looking to get compensated.

trickskier
12-07-2010, 08:43 PM
that will change in 1-3yrs!

I certainly hope "Fig" Newton doesn't win the Heisman!!!

trickskier
12-07-2010, 08:48 PM
I do find it hard to believe both were not looking to get compensated.

The "TRUTH" will come out --- It always does!!! :rant:

Maristar210
12-08-2010, 01:14 PM
Show Me The Money !!!!!

trickskier
12-08-2010, 04:55 PM
Show Me The Money !!!!!

Sad part is after what he has done at Auburn - He will be playing in the NFL - Most probably next year!!!